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So, your dice website is depending on cookies? Lost my bookmark, lost everything! The popup chat window is automatically opened upon visit, i will suggest to make it callable.  Anyways, game is provably fair and what makes it more interesting is to play vs opposite player.

Wow! Another new gambling site...well as i can see the design is good and looks nice for me, but there's just a bug in mobile that needed to fix, Anyways all in all i like your gambling site because its looks like good and nice for me....

I like PVP game, most probably fair game

Goodluck to you Admin  ;D

Thank you so much for your feedbacks! We are giving 1$ trials send us your BTC address so you will be able to try and check the platform

Actually it is not a new site, it was launched for the first time on October 2016. This is just a new thread with a new OP, the old thread is here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1663934.0
I dont see anything new from what I saw months ago, all still the same imo.

Hey all,

Yeah the platform isn't new, however we are new owners who want to take this to the next level. Bitcoin games are the future, especially PVP games.

We are giving free 1$ trailers - just jump on in and try us.

Waiting for you at DiceVsDice.com/beta

Regards,

One major complain: users should be able to read ToS before we can register account.
Not the other way around. When I registered an account I tried to find ToS and realized that there is no ToS ;)
You are only promising that the whole system is fair and no tricks are used. But I want to be able to verify that myself.

right,my deposit addy is 3EjDtdNZJHkNT9WQBaKgQ8YN3QPYwPjxkw
so,its a provably fair PVP dice game
I would love to be able to see the provably fair tab,at least explain how does it work?
can't see TOS or provably fair,it should be present on all gambling sites,imho
no information on the minimum deposit and withdrawal,too
anyhow,willing to try it with the test 1$,thank you in advance

Hey sir,
There is not much explanation. The dice just roll at random. I can understand people will love to see provably fair tab and TOS,
We agree with that, Hope it will be added this week.
The 1$ trailers are still on! We have updated your account with a trailer. Let us know what you think about the game, more feedbacks are highly appreciated.

As i see in your gambling site its nice, and i think this must be so much probably fair because its player vs player (PVP), anyways i just want to say nice gambling site and still looks good.

Here is my wallet address 3L4zn3PgKLyDdCuifqRAm8p9HbC8VqSHQ9, thanks in advance

Nice game but you should not make the chat go over the other texts and make an unreadable mess!

Yeah, your right the last what i say is because of this problem, and there's a little bug only  that needed to fix hihi Grin but the site is always looks good for me. BTW!! Here is my bitcoin address 1HUmANXraz8ERFUyWFCWjm1Ew2NjqDedfQ, thanks mate

it is very difficult to find an opponent :(
I suggest you promote the game more,spent a couple of hours tabbing in and out and
have the test 1$ still alive and well and unused too
the chat is broken, it displays "false" at the top (whatever that means) refreshing the page doesn't help either

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i would like to try

PVP now this is new to me.

I did not just bookmark it, but saved my secret url to notepad. lol

I would very much would like to try it

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This is the main problem of the low populated PvP games, the matchmaking is not working, because there is simply no one to play against.
I can't remember if I have seen a successful gambling service with only pvp games which remained popular, most of them seem to come and go very fast.
If I may suggest something - adding some 'vs. house games' should help to kill time and mitigate problem, also adding faucet to the site wouldn't be bad idea.

Hey all,
Thank you so much for your feedback again, We understand the problems that related to newbie gambling sites especially PVP. We will come with a few updates this week! :)
Moreover, anyone that asked for an 1$, received it! Let us know what you think.

hello sir..

i agree with them. it better for you to have free faucet. this is what most player wants (count me in  ;) )..

anyways, i tried to visit the site using mobile, why is that that i couldnt get in? can you fix this? i tried using desktop and it worked perfectly fine..

by the way, here is my btc add: 3JgSjsRKzTALQ2yR3gPztZmLGuZXykxMqM

thank you!

hey there mr.

i love the image of whole site. its quite simple. well maybe attractive in its simplest form.. but im having a bit trouble in finding an available opponent.. i guess you have to improve this one though..
i already bookmarked it mr.. hope the next time i play its already been fixed.

good luck to your gambling site. :)

kindly send your giveaway here " 3Er7D9NgwqYdrALwNj5XyCjdneA4zgJWMX " thank you.

This looks like a promising website, I sure would love to try this. And goodluck too.
Oh by the way here's my btc addy by the way 36bRGV6C4yBqP5U3UFdsTeRfbVXasxvqpK.

Presentable website + good design + probably fair game = job well done! Id like to try your game sir let me in!

Here my wallet addy 3ALur3BFC34XvbLRaDdCXyt6Ls6v2qjRmp thanks!

very nice and cool design OP just like what other's comment before maybe the chat should be move away or its with the players who wanted to use it.

if the freebies still open here's my btc add 3PuXA2LTWKmTEUvjkCAqjWfZoCn7fxaDsi  thanks in keep it up. good luck to your success.

This is probably not new gambling site, but what i admired the most and liked about this site its because they offer a unique style of gambling which is PvP, the mechanics of the game is well explained and understandable which also makes it simple and more competitive.

Goodluck for the future players.
BTC- 3Kp1SUjdiHTe4ZJwzmrB8Rg8HvcJSJ9dpj

The game is nice, the only thing bothers me is the chat box, i prefer to move it and also please fix the bug when you access it on mobile. Overall its good and entertaining. here's my wallet address 1EjzjegwjCh2T3JM88ag82L9CrTaaH1LjG

Nice site and PVP is a good idea too.

I would very much would like to try it
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Now, someone has finally brought a PVP in real time.  Would I be  able to give it a try, since theres no players yet. This is my dicevsdice wallet address: 36gX76WeCGKbQHCfHUDWUA491qZMv6WTSo.

Cant wait to try it. Thank you and hoping to see more from this site.

True. I was able to play like 3 or 4 games but after that, cant seem to find other players.

the site is well designed. love the graphics and how it looks. but i think you can still improve it for more user friendly.. mobile friendly importantly. this is the problem i am really facing. i tend to refresh it again but nothing happens. on the positive side, i think the game give a probably fair because no tricks, bots and computers manipulating. i love these type of games compared to computer-based games..

i will be glad if you will also give me that 1$ giveaway of yours. :) thank you in advance.

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Probably you only play against others who claimed the free $1 once they lose the free $1 then cant play anymore, thats why you cant find other players. It is the weakness of pvp based game..you should wait for other players in order to play.

Looks nice dice gambling site ;)

Are deposits required any confirm before I could start playing ?

I already checked the site and tried to play, even if its PvP its really hard to find enemy. Other than that good idea for promoting a gambling game with PvP features. heres my address 17Zzu4WfbH2AV2CR8DHuRAcN8Z3mKhFJH6

Wow NEW GAMBLING SITE
ILIKE THAT HAHAHAHA
I WILL SHARE THIS TO MY FRIENDS ^_^

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If the site does have less player then expected those pvp duels wont be a hit because no one would able to duel against players and that's a major problem among newly built website but if its placed on an old reputable site then it might a hit and profitable just like on Bitdouble.io they do have coin flip duel (player vs. player) its still new but there are lots of player do play. Adding vs. house should be always there just like other common gambling sites.

i'd be glad to try it out and provide more detailed feedback
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thanks

Let me try your gambling site, My address : 34M2NKuWmGLcpBoEUPgKnxH85cnfyNxMf6 , have no feedback ;) because hasn't playing there. just wanted to know what is the minimum Withdraw ?

username: aces777

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nice site and giveaway!

Hey again guys!
I am so happy to see this amount of comments and feedbacks, We want let you know we read ALL of it, And we will come up with alot of updates really soon!
We sent a trials to ALL. Start play and ROOL and let us know what you think! Lets build this community TOGETHER.

Moreover, We are looking to start hiring advertising team, shoot us PM if you think you suitable.

Great evening :)

sir,  please address the access thru mobile.  I also encounter this problem.  but I commend your design.  it's so nice to look at..  hmm.. I also want to avial your trial..


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got the giveaway, thanks...

just 1 problem, wait time for a game is far too long...
I waited for like few minutes but still no other players to play with

Good day, as I venture out learning about this forum here I would like to be part of beta of yours if its okay. As I visited the site it only showed 1 player @ lobby , was hoping if one/I be there just even doing the lowest bet amount 0.50cents might just let the other want to try the game ,with someone that is literally just there..

dicevsdice wallet address :
32Mv1Sd4GGj12ZfQa3ATBVXUrkofH96DUF

Then that means it's a problem to have only one player there. That means you don't have anybody to play with. Also that would mean the "1534" members was a lie or just created by the admins to get people to play into the casinos. So I guess be careful with their site as this could have potential problems.

Hey guys,
Sent all the trailers, Let us know what you think! We will do anthoer round of trailers in the next month.
We are still looking to start hiring advertising team, shoot us PM if you think you suitable.

nice site and giveaway!
admin/mod should always be online , as this is a pvp type-game ,not a lot of players stay, so im thinking do more chat games to make people stay and play!

username: aces777

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I sent a pm, hope to get a response. :)


would love to stay and give it a try if its okay :)

DicevsDice W. Address:    33GAKKXDakmypng36FagR91MznwAx7do6u

Ty,

Now i just wait .

Status: 0.0008372 BTC Received! Please wait for 1 confirmation ..Can finally atleast play  1 game , or more if lucky

Hi, i PMed you please reply back. I want to help promoting your gambling site because as far as i can see. Your gambling site is now and its nice to play also i like all PVP game because its 100% mostly probably fair game

I shoot you a PMed,

just 1 little suggestion,
as not much players in the game now, I think it is better to have less lobby to group players up.
Maybe like just USD 1, 5, and 10.

Once more players in the site, you can bring back those lobby.

Or atleast lower the bet value like 0.00025 like that?

Are you for real? Without any provably fair verifier your result is not solid, and you said that all bet is random, how can you prove that without any provably fair verifier? Actually ToS tab is not really needed for some dice site, but still you need to make one to make sure everything fine

That does make sense. I sent the OP about something I noticed, i dont know if it was just on my end or you guys also noticed about this :

quoted from my  pm to OP

Dice vs Dice wallet add: 39MkWPCog9nwa7bMTcpGeHrLMuX8Ma7JjT

Try would post feadback

The idea seems to be great with the pvp betting and gambling on random but the execution seems to be not working. The coder who did this or the business guy who requested the coder to do this has obviously forgotten some stuff.

I hope it will add the features that we like so we can give it a try but provably fair is something we all look for before we gamble.

It might be true that they have more than 1500 registered players,  but the main problem is how many of them are real players? It is just a part of advertising strategy to attract new players but it is a failed advertisement IMO. 
This strategy was used by old owner but did not give any effects for the site and now the new owner use the same advertising strategy?  This makes me doubt that this OP is new owner.  Proove me wrong!

unfortunately,you cannot know if it is a real player versus you or a house bot
(not saying that there are any or the site is doing that) there is no way for you to verify the roll outcome,there is no way to check your opponent is
a legit punter,the play process is just two dice rolling -very confusing
no way to check how many people in your lobby are ready to play
sadly this game needs much improvement to become a legit betting site,first of all -provably fair tab
without it you will struggle to get any players other than the gang of free 1$ lovers :)

We'll see how this goes, this is my btc address on the site. Want to try your site a little bit, see if I will enjoy it.
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Thanks mate.

Hey again guys,
We want let you know we are working on your suggestments and appreciate them!
There is no giveaways until next month.
Yesterday, was a great day! 300$ betted in, Let's keep it going!

 

To be honest, I do not like gambling sites like yours, it's an inconvenience for the user, they have to keep their information, a boring link. It is not suitable for current technology. You are a new business, I wonder why you choose to develop in that direction. I think you should change that, using username and password will be easier and more convenient.

As it is player vs player, is this skill based? How much is the house edge?

Hey. There is no  house edge. There is 2.5% tax.

Dice have noskill man, it's luck vs luck, it's like coinflip , 50:50 . And i think house edge of this website is about >1% , so if you finding for lucks ? Go dice! Want skill and calculate? Go betting. There're many ways to choose! Good Luck Bro!

2,5% income tax to the government or what?


What is the difference between dice vs house and dice vs player?

i visited again your site. and i think problem  in the access thru mobile still exist.. just like the first time i visited it.. i think you should try to address this first since members  find using mobile is the most convenient way than always using desktop. at least if people want to play with your site, then using mobile would be a lot easier.

Well, your right i think you should be hire someone that good in this job, like Programmer. You can't attract many gamblers here if your gambling have a problems accessing it. Much better to hire an programmers, to do it for you. And i think you should create signature campaign

yeah right, but i think before he makes a signature campaign, i think he should probably focus more on the common problem, by then he can already have signature or social media campaigns. major problems must be address first, then have trials again. then wait for some feedbacks. if its already ok, then campaign is the next big thing to do to attract more people.

Probably, yes they should be first fixed her problem in his gambling site. Before he create signature campaign. So in this all her gamblers can play more easily in mobile. Anyways i hope OP/Admin should fixed this problem in her gambler site. All in all i like her gambling because it have 0% HE and much probably fair games

I visited your site here is my review.

First of all After registration I need to click Play button manually
Chat option IS compulsory for all users (how to hide if someone not interested)
And Main thing no players at your website

Here is my

Deposit bitcoin
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Thanks Regards

"Fee" should be more appropriate word to change "tax" IMO, as what mentioned by other you should implement provably fair system. Otherwise people will doubt about the results, people may think that they get cheated on everybet.

yeah, it will probably offer of a high chance to have provably fair since it is based on PvP.. but as waht they have said here, although its a PvP the problem is that player is having  a hard time looking for an opponent. which i guess dev should also be fixing with.

Mainly the reason behind is because its not yet popular through other players, Yes i would agree if you could fix the bugs in mobile before doing any campaign. If bugs would be fixed immediately sure i will recommend this site to my fellow people, and yes it helps to boost the popularity of this site also.
Goodluck

Nice, i like what you say, but i think also being an not actove admin will be a problem unlike in other gambling that always active for replying in her gamblers that have an problem. And needed to fix as soon as possible. But in this the admin is not much probably not active.

Hey guys,
Sorry to hear that I seems to be not active, I am really trying to do my best.
But here some good news: Our coder is working to fix all the bugs and the mobile version aswell. It will be done in the next days.
Additionally, more improvements will be added in the next week :)
The desktop version is running smoothly, to the guys that want to try us!

Have a nice day mates!

Two suggestions from my side:

1. You need to add option to close chat window at right side.

2. Rather than making accounts for users, you can make a lobby with one bitcoin address. And choose winner when it will get two deposits, send back the amount to the winning bitcoin address. In this way people don't have to worry about losing their identifier and don't have to wait for confirmation on their deposits. They can just send bitcoin and go away, if they will win they will get back their winnings.

Can't find betting history or no bet was made till now?
Also i think it will be better to have lobby in terms of bitcoin rather than in fiat. Bitcoin price is quite volatile and calculation shown can't be accurate, one player may end up paying more than other for same reward in terms of bitcoin.

Hey,
betting history? What do you mean? In the previous 3 days we had 250$ bets in average each day,
Yes its still nothing, but we believe it will be better and better in upcoming weeks.
About the lobbies, We have the amount if BTC in additionally to the amount in usd, and its automatically updating (with the price of the bitcoin of course)

Thank you so much for your comment.  We read all, and working to improve the site (ALOT updates will be added in this week)

Thanks again and have a great day all!

Betting history should be something like the previous bets that have been done on your site. Look at dice site in common, they have bet history (both all bets by all players or all bets made by us only).
Is the provably fair system included on the next ALOT updates? It is the most important thing to be added aside other things.

I highly agree with it. Even if you are making some new and unique betting site, do not set aside the betting history for it will be helpful to some other players who wants to calculate their past bets or looked back to it.

hey i have tried it again and its really running smoothly more than what i have experienced last time i checked. thank you for giving solutions to our feedbacks. i hope your team will run a campaign in the future..

have a good day dev.

So glad to hear that! Be sure we are hearing all, and working hard to get all done!
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Guys, the site running smoothly, Come and try us ;)

Hey guys,
New updates:
All the bugs has been fixed.
The mobile version has been fixed.
The chat has been improved Can be toggle, and working great in the mobile version

We wait for you at http://dicevsdice.com/beta/

wow! mobile version has been fixed. this is one of my problem the last time i checked in. this is a good news. i will check your site on mobile later if no more errors occur. i will tell more feed backs when i had it done checked.

more power to your team.

Great! I visit your website and I saw the beauty of it. Yet it is mobile friendly. I much prefer to play on mobile because its convinient.
I think its better for your site to have a signature campaign so that you could attract more players on your site.
Great work! :)

Hey guys,
the site running smoothly! We wait for you :)

Hey guys,
We said that alot of updates are coming... And here they are.
I'm excited to announce, That our site is fully equipped with provably fair system.
We were asked from alot of members to do it while ago, And now its done guys.
I am inveting you to try us, The funnest Player Vs Player BTC Gambling Site :P
There huge updates coming soon guys, so stay updated.

Whats your next plan especially to make the lobby full of players? As we all know, pvp based game is hard to manage. Firstly because different timezone which makes your players hard to find other players at the same time. Probably you need to held a contest/competition to make your site crowded with many players fighting against each others.

I think they should find also to manage those players . in different time..
This is my first time to see that there is a dice game pure human game..  I think adding also poker many people are still looking for pure human opponents and i think who develop this kind and can manage well more people will come..

This is still need more promotion like signature campaign just to get more impression by many sub section and people..  so that 1k member can be increase more.

I think that this site unlike most other dice sites is very unique in the way hows its PvP.

However a big issue with this site is that developement seems very slow. Even this thread doesn't get much attention.

I don't know whether the developer is just doing this part time or is he doing it full time. But what would be best right now is to work out all the bugs and kinks and then go for an official launch with maybe a promo.

If you got the funds you can launch a signature campaign to get more traffic.

@Bitinity, i agree with you sir, i think this is a factor that the team must be consider as well. players have different timezones if that happens, the players will all be having trouble in finding an opponent. can dev have any solutions to this?

Hey,
Let us know what bugs you found, So we can work to fix them :)

The site is working great, and you all welcome!

GOOOOD morning.
The site is working great, And started to get more and more players :)
Moreover, Huge Lottery is coming soon.

Lottery? This game is not really attractive enough IMO, there are many failed lottery project on this bitcoin gambling industry. Why you plan to launch a lottery game? Are you confidence enough that many people will be interested with your lottery?

Hey mate.
Let us know what is not enough attractive in the site. We are want to hear your feedbacks so we can be improved.

Hey guys!!
Very glad to present New updates :)
The site renewed with betting history.
Moreover, ALL the bugs has been fixed.
Let me know what all thinking.

Thanks.

Yes better to concentrate on what you are good at. Rather don't be ok at everything and master at none but rsther master of one or few. Often concentrating on too many things can ruin you. Also if everything is going well then why ruin it ?

great!  just visited the site and yes it works perfectly find now compared to the last time I visited it.  anyway,  is lottery already available?  you said it will launch soon.  can't find it in the site though.

He has not announced it yet so I think the lottery is not ready to be launched. I'm curious about it as well because he said "huge lottery", sounds like an interesting lottery so lets wait about it. In case it will be just another common lotteries, I guess there will be no one interested to play on it.

Hey,
The lottery is still at work.
But the site is working smoothly, Please take a minute to try us :)

Without depositing or playing, it says:

"Your next roll hash: 1eeaac1b05a5.."

Can you tell me how that is possible? If it is player vs player, I would imagine the other player would also see some kind of roll hash.. but I guess a different one? (since I didn't even select any amount.) Basically I am looking for information about your provably fair implementation.

Normally P2P provably fair would work with hashed client seeds, where both first send their hashed client seeds and bets, then the unhashed client seeds to calculate the winner. AFAIK no serverseed is needed (nor possible with P2P.)

Hey,
Your next roll, no matter the lobby is predetermined and hashed.
You are shown the hashed version of your next roll.
Each time you play, a new roll and therefore its hash will be generated.
Each player will have a unique hash every game as the roll data is hashed with a salt.
After a game is complete, both players decoded hash is shown to both players to prove that it is fair.

How much is your house edge?

Hey, There is NO house edge. You playing vs Real Player, Its means you have 50% chance to win (As him).
However, There is 2% Tax on every game.

2% fee is like house edge as I know because on the dice site with house edge we can choose 50% chance to win too but it lowered our payout so I think it will be just the same if you said there is no house edge but put higher fee on this tax on every games too. This is just matter of how we look into this game

So the 2 players that play against each other have a different roll? How is the roll calculated? Do you have a provably fair info page so it's easy to figure this out?

Either way I am sure it's not actually provably fair, but I first want to understand how you guys calculate the result :P

Yeah thats also what i seen from the system how we can be assured whether the same time the two players roll the dice seems its really needed to be explain well with the players that wanted to try your service, ill be going to watch how players will give feedbacks with this unique dice site.

This game uses “roll hashes” to prove itself.

Roll hashes are how DiceVsDice proves that each player's roll is chosen before the game is played and are not tampered with. Hashes thus prove to the player that the game is fair.

When a new round is started, each players will play their next roll which has been predetermined and encoded. The decoded hash consists of the 2 dice rolls coupled with a random string generated by the server - this hash is encoded with SHA256. The result of the hash function is shown to you before you play a game.

Validating the fairness

After a game has been completed, the "dice1-dice2+random string" secret will be revealed. It is at this point you may validate that the SHA256 hash of the secret matches the hash that has been shown since the beginning of the round.
http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculato

What is "dice1" and "dice2"? I assume your and your opponent's result, right? So:

1) How is it possible that you show the hash already before I join a game? My opponent's result cannot be known yet?
2) How is it possible that: "Each player will have a unique hash" if it's player vs player where both players would have the same result/rolls?




Besides this, it's still not provably fair.. it's very easy for you to just generate hashes that ensure that the opponent (which could be a "site-player") has a higher roll result. Just because you "hash" things, doesn't make it provably fair.

A proper P2P provably fair implementation should work like this:
1) Both players join a game (player 1 is who started game, player 2 who accepted game).
2) Both players send a hashed version of their clientseed that was generated randomly in their browser with a cryptographically secure RNG.
3) After receiving the opponent's hashed clientseed (and showing it to the player - ideally with some seconds to copy it), they send their clientseed but now unhashed.
4) Site can already calculate result based on that.. for example use some HMAC function to generate a hash based on both clientseeds (player 1 is key, player 2 is message) and loop 2 dice results out of that (first roll is player 1, second is player 2.) A bit like regular dice games.
5) Send result + unhashed clientseeds to both players. They now know the result and can calculate the results themselves (and should be done automatically in browser too.)

This way, you - as site owner - cannot "pretend" to be a player and cheat. Therefor it is actually provably fair.




PS, I absolutely do not accuse you of cheating.. just to be clear :P But if you have a provably fair implementation, it should be really provably fair. GL.

Hey,
dice 1 and dice 2 are your 2 rolls. you do not know what your opponents results are until after the game.

Ah okay, tbh, doesn't really matter.

In the end provably fair is about ensuring that the player can verify that he has not been cheated. In your implementation you could pretend to be the opponent and you could simply generate a higher result for yourself. There is no way for the player to verify this and therefor it is not provably fair.

I am not accusing you of this, but like I said, it simply is not provably fair right now. Therefor I recommend you use the implementation as I suggested in my previous post.