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Title: changing the whitepaper? Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 06, 2017, 04:56:24 AM I don't even know what to say here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/63l2c0/maintainer_of_bitcoinorg_about_to_change_satoshis/dfv5z9t/ Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: franky1 on April 06, 2017, 05:13:36 AM yep core/blockstream seem to have no moral limits but love to set bitcoin utility limits
cobra tried to do this last year. many objected and the drama died.. seems like core cant take no for an answer and will just keep trying to push it rather then get over their own snobbery if they want to do it. dont change the white paper.. they should be brave and just make their own unique and new white paper.. call it segwit. date it 2017.. mention that its from an altcoin of the blockstream elements project. and just be honest.. and then let people laugh if its an obvious "blockstream rule as kings" testimonial.. Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: jonald_fyookball on April 06, 2017, 03:25:42 PM where's all the core shills? Are they even going to try to defend this one?
Thing is, keeping the 1mb block for this long is almost as bad...but shills not knowledgeable enough to realize that. Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 06, 2017, 03:34:26 PM Ha... there is no way that Satoshi's white paper can be changed. Everyone has a copy- decentralized. If this attempt is real, they can only come out with a new whitepaper, which will not be accepted by many.
Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: pedrog on April 06, 2017, 03:34:35 PM Who's Cobra-Bitcoin?
What about the other people involved with bitcoin.org, are they going with this? Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: BrewMaster on April 06, 2017, 04:36:55 PM isn't this old?
i swear i heard about this at least 4 months ago, cobra or whatever said this and nothing happened. has this resurfaced or is it a repetition of an old drama (sorry can't open reddit from here) #this is so fuk 'dup Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: franky1 on April 06, 2017, 04:59:15 PM isn't this old? he re-launched his mission yesterday.i swear i heard about this at least 4 months ago, cobra or whatever said this and nothing happened. has this resurfaced or is it a repetition of an old drama (sorry can't open reddit from here) Quote Cobra-Bitcoin -87 points 1 day ago The paper is under the MIT license and part of the original Bitcoin project support files. The paper points to bitcoin.org, and was originally uploaded there, it's well within our right to produce an updated version that corrects the major problems. As things are right now, too many people get encouraged to read the white paper to "learn" about how Bitcoin works, and these people just come out with an incorrect interpretation of how things should be. cobra tried to do this last year. many objected and the drama died.. seems like core cant take no for an answer and will just keep trying to push it rather then get over their own snobbery Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: Slipknot79 on April 06, 2017, 05:09:39 PM Doesn't sound like much more than a bait for you fools.
Simply stop bringing down the morale with this BS, as much as you economists and technicians might dispute, 1/3 of bitcoin's value lies in it's community stability. All this forking and random nonsense is merely a diversion from normal affairs weakening bitcoin's integrity, and you kids are falling into the currency opponents hands. franky1 don't dispute, you know as well as I that BU would and will never happen, no fork as a matter of fact. Yes there's "no one forcing anyone" but yet that's all these kids have been talking about these past few days. It has been catalyzed by something... Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: AngryDwarf on April 06, 2017, 05:11:49 PM Surely someone has already encoded a copy of the original in the blockchain?
Sounds like an attempt to rewrite history before victory has been assured. Perhaps the asicboost conflict of interest narrative has got to some peoples heads too quickly. Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: gentlemand on April 06, 2017, 05:17:04 PM isn't this old? i swear i heard about this at least 4 months ago, cobra or whatever said this and nothing happened. has this resurfaced or is it a repetition of an old drama (sorry can't open reddit from here) #this is so fuk 'dup Old indeed. https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/issues/1325 Perhaps there should be a white paper that is a current overview as it's the first stop for many, but it should in no way imply that it's THE white paper. That will always be an iconic document no matter what Bitcoin becomes. Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: franky1 on April 06, 2017, 05:18:39 PM franky1 don't dispute, you know as well as I that BU would and will never happen, no fork as a matter of fact. Yes there's "no one forcing anyone" but yet that's all these kids have been talking about these past few days. It has been catalyzed by something... i have been pasting this sooo many times this little nugget What you are describing is what I and others call a bilateral hardfork-- where both sides reject the other. I tried to convince the authors of BIP101 to make their proposal bilateral ... Sadly, the proposals authors were aggressively against this. The ethereum hardfork was bilateral, probably the only thing they did right-- its not the intention of NON-CORE implementations to split the network.. as you say its gmaxwell and his chums baiting the community the catalyst is get the community pointing at BU, while blockstream try to make their TIER network for the DCG cartel. after all blockstream and DCG had a round table meeting over a month ago, and rather than publicly release the minutes of their meeting they pushed out the "craig wright is satoshi" mantra to distract the real conversation. i am not in any bandcamp no matter how hard they try to throw me in a band camp. i can just see passed all the blockstream reddit scripts of REKT campaigns to pretend blockstream are the victims. there should be no core TIER network (but gmaxwell needs it to repay the $70m debt) there are not only 2 implementations there are over a dozen. the only ones not playing ball by avoiding a fair open diverse decentralised peer network are blockstream(core) Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: BrewMaster on April 06, 2017, 05:28:14 PM isn't this old? i swear i heard about this at least 4 months ago, cobra or whatever said this and nothing happened. has this resurfaced or is it a repetition of an old drama (sorry can't open reddit from here) #this is so fuk 'dup Old indeed. https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/issues/1325 Perhaps there should be a white paper that is a current overview as it's the first stop for many, but it should in no way imply that it's THE white paper. That will always be an iconic document no matter what Bitcoin becomes. thanks for the link, that actually helped after reading the comments on that issue. i still say changing it is so fuk 'dup, however i can see a new version be released with a new name like bitcoin paper 2.0 with reference to the original. Surely someone has already encoded a copy of the original in the blockchain? apparently they have: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/35959/how-is-the-whitepaper-decoded-from-the-blockchain-tx-with-1000x-m-of-n-multisi although it is a bit too advanced for me to understand in one read ::) Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: Rajchandu on April 06, 2017, 05:56:48 PM All this forking and random nonsense is merely a diversion from normal affairs weakening bitcoin's integrity, and you kids are falling into the currency opponents hands.
franky1 don't dispute, you know as well as I that BU would and will never happen, no fork as a matter of fact. Yes there's "no one forcing anyone" but yet that's all these kids have been talking about these past few days. It has been catalyzed by something... Title: Re: changing the whitepaper? Post by: michkima on April 06, 2017, 06:26:57 PM All this forking and random nonsense is merely a diversion from normal affairs weakening bitcoin's integrity, and you kids are falling into the currency opponents hands. franky1 don't dispute, you know as well as I that BU would and will never happen, no fork as a matter of fact. Yes there's "no one forcing anyone" but yet that's all these kids have been talking about these past few days. It has been catalyzed by something... I agree, this just casts clouds over bitcoin's popularity and causes real stress over the current users. This are the reason why people moved a way from bitcoins for a moment and boosted the prices of alt-coins. Now I think they are flocking back into bitcoins and that is why we see a great drop in most altcoins nowadays. |