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Title: . Post by: 100x on April 24, 2013, 05:50:16 AM .
Title: Re: Billpayforcoins.com Post by: Elwar on April 24, 2013, 06:18:10 AM More and more exciting stuff in bitcoinland: http://www.billpayforcoins.com/ Maybe I shouldn't have taken some profits a few days ago haha Awesome. This should just about close the loop on my requirement for fiat. Though, the fees are a bit steep. About half would be reasonable, but with no competition they are able to charge those types of fees. If I put my mortgage payment in bitcoins instead of my bank account, the price would have to rise from the current $146 to $153 to break even. Certainly worth it (at the current rate) considering I usually have my $ sitting in my account for a week before I send the check. Title: Re: Billpayforcoins.com Post by: fingerpaint on April 24, 2013, 07:12:19 AM I considered starting a similar site, but was turned off by this: http://www.dfi.ca.gov/Licensees/money_transmitters/default.html I wonder if these guys ponied up the 5 grand, or are just hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Billpayforcoins.com Post by: fingerpaint on April 24, 2013, 08:15:25 AM Bitcoin is growing up and any businesses that interact directly with standard financial layers will have to play by the rules. However the market is growing.. Say they have a very minor amount of success and get a few regular users, maybe 500 users doing $400 per month average, then that is $8 - $12k ($200k * 4-6%) in revenue per month. So the $5k isn't that large in the scheme of things. Eventually, many years out, if bitcoin is successful many more businesses will realize they can simply accept bitcoin directly, cutting out the fiat stage as well as the more explicit regulation (I think they will still try to regulate bitcoin, but it will be much much harder). I agree in the grand scheme 5k is a drop in the bucket if this becomes a successful business and for bitcoin's sake I hope it does. However, Google's keyword tool shows 0 global searches for anything having to do with Bitcoin and Billpay. Plus in the current state of the market everyone is trying to figure out how to get money into bitcoin rather then out of it and those with coins seem to want to hold on to them for a while. Of course that will change over time. But with that in mind I was looking at the service from a minimum viable product standpoint. Put up a simple website and process the orders manually for a while. Get a feel for the demand, figure out the sweet spot for fees, how much it costs to regularly cycle money in and out of the exchanges, and get the word out about the service without making much of an upfront investment. Of course none of this is possible if you have to drop 5k just to (legally) process your first payment. Furthermore, in my brief bit of research some states (such as New York) require you to get licensed in there state as well if you want to operate as a money transfer business with their citizens. Then there's the Federal AML requirements you have to comply with. Title: Re: Billpayforcoins.com Post by: JimiQ84 on April 24, 2013, 08:21:37 AM I guess this service is usefull for american miners who need to pay electrical bill with part of mining proceeds. It looks good even with those fees for that particular use.
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