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Making a group to pump coins is a good idea and i hope we may have a big profit in it.
We will pump coins to the highest and then we will sell it.
I dont know how much will it work but we can give a try.
thanks.

I'm not sure that I understood what is actualy your idea. And why do you think that random gathered group of people could pump the price just like that? Bitcoin price is much more complex than this like you have imagined and if this was so easy and functioning that way, many people would be rich by now.

Yes, not even with altcoins, I could not foresee the possibilities of success with this idea. Because random people will rush to book profits before the group admin asks to. This might be one piratical problem, we cannot be sure how random people will behave out of greediness to ensure their profits before the herd.

I believe already there are groups but must have formed with known people and they are manipulating bitcoin/altcoin prices based on their capital strength. I read somewhere like people form skype groups for these types of purposes.

You need to partner with whales to make changes in bitcoin price movements,  do you think it will be possible ?
I am not here to discourage you, you may try your idea with small market cap altcoins, I am not sure how much success you will get.

Because a pumping must lead to convince traders to enter, it means you might to wait for days too. In short you may make use of this idea, if your group come up with massive amounts of bitcoins. Anyway, good luck !

This can be done only if you have very very big pockets. Otherwise random players will eat your profit, selling before you are ready to.

Plus when you are dealing with a lot of people its hard to make a consensus when is the best time to sell and profit. 

This reminds me on games when people try to do this. MMORPGs do it all the time and all that happens is 5 people make profits and the others all get screwed...

I think your idea is good but pumping coins in group i think that is so hard.  Only developer can do that because his the who hold the big portion of that coins anytime he can pumping up the coins or dump it.

youre create group and collect much people is very dificult control and follow you want to buy altcoin in pump target
if join must pay, can control pump you want, is many people ready open service but nothing people interest and join

you can pump coin only you have money but is still very dificult if have not experience

There are too many big players that can already manipulate prices. Most of us own only a small amount and even a group of us won't have enough influence over the market. It's best to just sell after a pump and buy after a dump.

That's probably not a good idea. It might work if you are "a big fish in a small pond." But seriously, you can't manipulate the market so easily, unless you got some serious cash (AKA, a whale).

Idea
Usually look for coins that have been pumped before and right now they are waiting for the same thing to happen, because people who bought at top price will be bag holders and once they see the coin starts moving up quickly they will start buying again. Check the entire history of the coin that needs to be pumped. Check the depth chart, if it takes like 200 bitcoins to get from 0.07 to 0.1 it just wont worth it because most likely you gonna look for a 500%-1000% profit. The larger the group is, the better. Minimum amount for players is 10BTC. Max players 10 - 15 people. Take a look at the coins that are listed on Poloniex, look for ones with low volume at the moment.
QBK, NOTE (DNOTES) especially this coin  ;) with 2 people u can double the profit (I am talking only for the pumpers, + bear in mind when all the noobs will start jumping into the coin it will skyrocket) , HZ, GRC  , MYR.

Important thing:
Don't look for a coin that is full of bagholders, like this one (BCN)
http://imgur.com/tJbsUje

Look for something that is more clean and that doesnt have many sell orders/break points. Check the news about the coin, check the price on the other exchanging websites, look at the wallets to see how many people have huge bags.

If you don't have any idea or if you never tried before don't try to play around with your bitcoins or you might end up losing them.

Strat: Usually these pumps last 2 days, first day is a day of warming up /  bot day, if you have bots u should all turn it on and let them do the job for the next 2 hours after that u can strike, then let the bot continue his job, then u strike again, same  thing over and over.

If you need any help let me know.

In this days, it is good to have a group that can manipulate the price of the coins, why? Because it is a guarantee that you will earn money because you have group that can dictate the price from your desire, That is what most of the members here or other traders are doing, they are establishing a group that are pure manipulators and because of that they are getting easy profits.

Thanks guyz for your answers but im saying to pump altcoins and not bitcoin. pumping bitcoin is almost impossible. Altcoins like putin, dash are pumped before by some groups so i had this idea. we can try to pump them. Shall i drop this idea?

Last time i saw putin and dash coins pumping so had this idea.
I hope this work
according to you shall i drop my idea?
We can also pump the same coins as they can be pumped easily. Pumping bitcoin is almost impossible. Im saying​ of pumping altcoins like PUTIN, DASH,ETC

yes. as you said some coins are pumped before by a group of people. I saw coins like PUTIN, DASH and RIDE pumped so had this idea of pumping. if we make a group of maybe 30-35 people we can easily pump any coin depending on its sell order.

Coins like putin, ride and dash are pumped before. This is like a big fish in a small pond. they can be pumped easily by a group of 30-35 people. You can pump them according to their sell order.

There is a site that was made to pump coins called pumpmycoins.com.

You should check that out.

Personally I think it makes no sense to do a group to pump coins because in the end everyone has to dump it again. You have to have a lot of trust for the people in the group that they won't sell early or anything like that.

You have to make everyone else believe that the coin is going up too, not just your group, because if you wanna make a profit you can't make it out of your group, but rather you have to make it out of the other players in the markte.

Yes I think there is a group doing it, how about the @yeswepump group? Are they still active? Pump and dump are rampant on Yobit :) but big whales I think they are in any exchanges especially like in Polo or ttrex.

Am saying to pump altcoins. Pumping Bitcoin is almost impossible. Altcoins like dash, ride, putin are also pumped before and i think a group of 30-35 people can pump it easily. depending on their sell order we can also pump them for a big profit. But pumping coins will give us profit and will screw others :/

Pumping on that site is of no use because everyone there knows about it. Im saying to pump some altcoins like RIDE, PUTIN, DASH on exchange sites like yobit. i saw many such coins before pumping on yobit. Depending on their sell order we can too pump them with a group of some 30-35 people

Problem is it needs cooperation. You cant just say "Let us form a group and pump the coins".
It needs big holders too. So you will need rich people at your side or you go socializing with them to know when they will pump.
For low earners and low holders we cant do something about that but just wait if they pump we go with the wave and earn as much as profit while it is happening.

yea thats the point. I needed that info.
we need co-operation for this idea and also big investors. I hope we find that all soon

Think about it, once you pump it what are you going to do?

Obviously to dump all of the coins, right?

So there is no profit made there as a group, except maybe a guy gets some more than another guy because he sold his coins faster. So if you want a pump group you'll have to have a marketing guy as well advertising the pump. You won't make any profit if you just did it privately in a group.

Also you'll have trouble finding big players because they are putting the money at risk whilst everyone else knows the same info. It's not worth it for them.

Yes you should drop your idea and start making your group because pumping and dumping altcoins is very easy when you have the money. Just start your group and gather some funds for pumping the altcoins and i'm sure that you will make profit. It is easier to generate profit by group instead of by just yourself.

This would be very very hard although at first glance it might look like it's easy. First you need va lot of funds to invest, a very large group that will support you and you have to focus on just few altcoins without spreading too much. If you have all this conditions you might try but still there are no guarantee you will be successful.

we just need a group of 30-35 people and will pump RIDE, PUTIN and DASH as they can be easily pumped. they are also pumped before. We dont need much funds but just about 900-1000 of the altcoins.
I hope the idea works

What a idea which does not have any head or mouth. You mean you will ask any say 10 member to become a group and ask everybody to buy some coin and then ask them to sell and earn profit? ??? Doesn't this sound some type of game ?

10 users is not enough to pump the price of one coin. Maybe all of that people will invest huge amount that will effects on the blockmarker.
I think OP wanting to manipulate the value of bitcoin by doing that thing they will generate big profit in that tricks.

i dnt wana say that.
By making group means we will first decide which coin to pump n yea pumping PUTIN, RIDE, YES, ETC are quite easy. many have already tried it.
i dont think its impossible. Pumping bitcoin is impossible but not altcoins.

Maybe hes preferring on altcoin because its not really possible to easily pump out bitcoin since it would really require millions of dollars in able to do so.On altcoin it might possible but still does need huge amounts of money and making a group is really possible but i think it would be useless or people wont show interest on this forum.If public does know about a certain pumper group then many would make money out of it thats why whales are just keeping silent and do job without noticing the public.

If you want to join group that pump altcoin you can try fairpump as they usually pump some alt at bittrex. You can pay some fee to join the insider group or just receive the free info on what they are planning to pump.

Pumping a dead altcoin is not good if you don't have a huge investment because many dumpers of coins you will fight for, just like an altcoin developer they need to ICO or Initial Coin Offering to get a huge money to pump a coins but becoming a newbie in trading can i ask what is the benefits of pumping a coin? and why whales making a fake pump? they earn a huge profit with it?
Theres a group on facebook of altcoin pumpers but i forgot the name of group.

Fairpump ? Where I can find them, probably you have missed any link here or do I need to contact in PM to get more details on this ?

I do hear inside people and some members of such group of people are making good money out of pump and dump participation, it would be really good if you are ready to share any success story of finding opportunities.

You could find all the details on their website (http://fairpumps.net/), but it's really not a good thing to participate in these things from an ethical standpoint.

Think about it - overall, the earnings for all users would have to be at zero or lower (after the dump).  Therefore all of the money for people who make profit has to be coming from somewhere.  The answer is that it comes from newbies who get caught up thinking it's the new opportunity to get rich and then they lose all their money, and it's also people who are new to pumps and don't have a lot of money so they lose it.

Basically, it's just a way for people who already have money experience to build up money exploiting everyone else.

That's already being done by pump & dump groups, I've heard of a few that have enough Bitcoins amongst their members to really make a difference in trading volume for even bigger Alts.
I wouldn't bother with them personally, it's definitely better for the altcoins themselves to experience organic growth instead of a temporary pump & dump.

You'd also need some level of trust for your members, which is difficult when you're just accepting applicationas through this forum for example.

Its not a good idea to pump coins with strangers dude. What if we decide to pump a dead coin , then after several pumps I decide to trick you by selling all my coins leaving you hanging in that stupid coin with so much loss.

The pumb group, what is really they aim? If I understand the op you are looking for people of the same mind like your who will buy coins at the same time if the bulls is more than the bear you and your group will sell of the coin and abandon it. To me The idea of making money in this way is not good as many will be deceived and see crypto currencies  as ponzi schemes.

Well had that being so easy it would have being done multiple times of by now with each coin. Its always easy to say and especially when you do not know other making a group of 100 say for example is not easy and not everyone can buy/sell at same time due to many limitations associated with everybody.

But, It depends on the recent condition of coin. The pump group will never be doing a pump for randomly. They will need more analyzation try to make a bullish trap for the newbies to grab his money.
As you said, that's just a usual game in crypto with the same result as another people gets deceived.
If you already joined on the crypto trading and you've agreed with all of the risk on the trade itself.

It's not an easy like you said, It's hard to pump the coin without have a big fund and of course you need a solid team to make your goal reached, is better for your to learn about the trading and read the news about altcoin or Bitcoin so you can prediction when the price will go up or down.

It is hard to work if your group is made up of random people from this forum. It will be hard to coordinate your moves and somebody might just be there to backstab you before you get into profit. It is better if you have real life close friends to help you with your pump and dump agenda.

I think its a good idea but you mush have trust from others and ,they should have a lot of money and knowledge buy market price moves and news effecting it ..

You have to be careful to join a pump group. Many times they decide to pump a coin that the administrator of the group has bought previously so it is the administrator who is going to take profit. Even if the group is legal and the coin to pump is decided at the last minute it is difficult to buy on time. If, for example, it is a group of 40 or 50 people, all will go to the same time to buy the same coin, if your computer or your connection is slower than the average you will not arrive in time to buy cheap or when you try to take advantage of a sell offer to buy, will be gone quickly. Sometimes these groups raise the price in a matter of seconds so it can happen that you buy the coin when it has already reached the highest peak of its price.

Hello, i create chanel for pumping altcoins. Welcome to https://t.me/PumpCoinN1

I do not trust the pumper group because I have suffered huge losses due to follow it.
I prefer to join the trading signal group because it is more accurate.

Pump groups are a scam, the leaders buy coins before the rest and before they tell the rest of the group the coin they are going to pump, then when they signal the group the coin to pump, the price of that coin begins to increase and then they sell for a profits and some other members that got lucky earn money too but for the rest they are going to lose money since the coin is going to dump in the next days.

Because the group administrator requested. We can not be sure how random people will behave with ambition to ensure profitability.
You can try your ideas with rancid not sure how much success you will get. Because the pump must lead to convincing traders to enter, this means you can also wait for days
You have to make people believe that the coin also increases you can not make it out of your group, but rather you have to make it out to other players in the markte.

I am totally against pump and dump groups as they already have their sell prices fixed deceiving others to  pump a dead coin so that they can dump all their bags on victims

It can only work if you have many followers that you lead and trust you whatever tips or signals you give.  I've seen so many of them on telegram and they really believe what their leader told them to buy knowing that he's really the only one that is  getting the profit.

Yeah it can be or maybe if you're a big whale in this market.
As far as I know big whales are the one who cam control the pump and dump here. If they wanna take some profit they just create fuds to make everyone panic and sell their coins at low price. They hold tons of coins like almost of the supply is in them. It's really disappointing to know how dirty the market works like we're just a small fishes in the ocean that are waiting to be feed.

Either you should have a huge group with individuals holding less coins and have a small group of whales. Maintaing a huge group of people accordingly is impossible that too random people. Second thing whales are already busy with their renowned groups for pumping.You can join those groups if you know a whale who is your friend.This could be easy if you are a whale yourself.You can manipulate the second level altcoins easily.

Some traders use pumper groups that exist on the telegram. with free or paid service. some signals have good accuracy but some have not proven accurate.
All are free to choose to believe it or not.
Every trader knows the risks...

Yes,there are groups which do give free tips regarding on the coins that they would able to pump yes and its free of charge but this is actually depend on traders choice if they would join with it or not.We do really know the risk because we wont know if its accurate or those people are just using us.I have join lots of groups regarding on this pumping a coin but talking on accuracy ratio I can say that most of them are just giving random tips.

I think it is not a good idea. It just simply means the coin is not useful the way the developer made it. If the coin is of more use there is no pumping needed. Pumping coins is one way of manipulation.

I don't want this pump and dump groups. They are trying to manipulate the market only to their advantage. These groups should also be aware that there are small and individual traders that will be severely affected. Whales are doing pump and dump in certain coins. I prefer organic movements and not manipulated ones.

That might be good idea for you but not for the coin or ICO that formed it. This is like using the coin only to pump and dump at any time without notice to any team of particular coin due to which their economic balance gets disturbed and they end up in loosing the assets which they collected for project development. The end result? The coin which is being dumped will get drained out and will shut sooner. That's ain't good approach to work with altcoin. Believe there are already so many coins out there being pumped like this but not making any sense. Just try the normal trading you are still in profits.

actually pumping the coin can be said by lottery, because if we succeed and many people follow us to buy high then we will get big profit, but if on the contrary, many people will sell their coin because look pump then price will more discard and we will experience many losses.

pump and dump groups may just want to manipulate the market anyway they do not seem to think about the impact it does on small-scale merchants. they are only thinking of profit. I would agree if the coins can rise fairly without any such group

Group of 10 person can be usefull for getting profit, but useless to control price if we do not have resources enough.

Just let 7 Genius brain to do Tech analysis, and rest Socialist go for fundamental. Decision can be made made with Discussion after observation

Big capital trader already did that since long time ago. Pumping 2-3% is still possible I think, 5% max. Maybe it's not a big figure, but using their capital those number could be an interesting profit. After pumping it they leave it, the price will decrease to their normal level. It works well especially in low market cap.

do not believe in the pump / dump group, the real way they are to buy a coin that will be in the pump, then they will announce to the followers of the group and after a few% rise directly from the group sell up back in the base price, and you will not get time profits due to being stuck at high prices

They usually only share from several other groups, it's not their original analysis.
a good step is to practice it and test its analysis by following its intrucsin.
If 80% is correct then you can use it, otherwise you go out and choose to use your own analysis.

I think it's a bad idea because you have to spend a lot of money to do that, the benefits you get are small and the success rate is too small, too many risks. My suggest before creating a group you should try to get into a group like that.

I read and hear lots of this kind of group
But I am sure if it s working.
I ll follow the thread

I think your idea is good but pumping coins in group i think that is so hard.

Actually it's not. There are many groups where people pump a coin but personally, I don't think it's a good idea because only whales get profit from it. Another thing is that I find it unethical to virtually create that pump.

Pump groups do not work like that, pump groups are another form of scam, a group of people think they are going to collaborate to pump the coin but the truth is that the organizer of the group and some insiders know beforehand which coin is going to be pumped, then when the coin is pumped by the members the owner of the group begins to withdraw and getting earnings that way, and where does that money come from? From the members of the group.