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Title: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Vantix on April 16, 2017, 01:51:35 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Weatherby on April 16, 2017, 01:58:20 AM
In yobit you could roll with many different coins and people might be interested in that or they are not interested or care about legit gambling sites.I am not sure yobit is a provably fair site as you will loose every time when ever you roll a big amount  :D and i do not know how to verify their rolls.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Vantix on April 16, 2017, 02:03:16 AM
In yobit you could roll with many different coins and people might be interested in that or they are not interested or care about legit gambling sites.I am not sure yobit is a provably fair site as you will loose every time when ever you roll a big amount  :D and i do not know how to verify their rolls.

But no body cares about other currencies that not Bitcoin
Besides there are many casinos using shapeshift such as crocozino and rollin letting the playiers play on all cryptos


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: NLNico on April 16, 2017, 02:10:31 AM
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Your search - site:yobit.net "provably fair" - did not match any documents.
If their site doesn't mention "provably fair", it's safe to assume they are not provably fair ;)


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 16, 2017, 03:44:54 AM
most people play there with altcoins. with all the promos and free coins from airdrops and such. comparatively the btc is played much less then all the other 1 sat coins.and i have never heard "provably fair" mentioned on their site


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: marlboroza on April 16, 2017, 08:39:36 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
It's not provably fair but maybe it's just fair? I don't know why people are playing there, house edge is bit high for dice (2%).

most people play there with altcoins. with all the promos and free coins from airdrops and such. comparatively the btc is played much less then all the other 1 sat coins.and i have never heard "provably fair" mentioned on their site
True, people claim free dead shitcoins, they can't sell them and they gamble with them - also high rollers are playing there with bitcoins.

Besides there are many casinos using shapeshift such as crocozino and rollin letting the playiers play on all cryptos
What does this even mean? Shapeshift is exchange  ;D


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: hermanhs09 on April 16, 2017, 08:44:05 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

No it isn't.

And you're right about Yobit's design being mediocre, i think that most of us here will agree with you.

It isn't provably fair, it doesn't provide you with any hashes.

I would suspect that most of the bets are actually from Yobit themselves - to pad their stats. No proof, but it seems unlikely that a highroller that gambles $200 a roll would choose Yobit over other sites that are better designed, have better admins, and have lower house edge, and with provably fair verification.

Either way, no matter how we look at it, it isn't safe to play or to trade on Yobit because their customer support is really really bad, coins are constantly under "maintannence", but worst of all sometimes the wallets show as online but are actually not online at all and not crediting any deposits that you send to that address. Do not use their site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Golftech on April 16, 2017, 08:45:46 AM
most people play there with altcoins. with all the promos and free coins from airdrops and such. comparatively the btc is played much less then all the other 1 sat coins.and i have never heard "provably fair" mentioned on their site
i also don't see this mention from the site and you are correct most gamblers who's playing inside yobit are those players who have a lots of alts and trying to use it to make more coins, with mindset that having good numbers of bankroll you will able to got a good chance to win so basically if they win with their alts they will sell it and convert it to btc.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: olushakes on April 16, 2017, 09:29:18 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

I dont think anyone needs to bother himself about a site being provably fair or not. Even the ones that have it on their and even a way to verify it, have been found to be wanting in one area or the other and even that does not stop them from scamming. The forum is so filled with so many gambling site that one can choose from with some even standing the test of time over the years. So, if you are not comfortable with any site, just pass and visit others.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Windpower on April 16, 2017, 09:57:53 AM
In yobit you could roll with many different coins and people might be interested in that or they are not interested or care about legit gambling sites.I am not sure yobit is a provably fair site as you will loose every time when ever you roll a big amount  :D and i do not know how to verify their rolls.

But no body cares about other currencies that not Bitcoin
Besides there are many casinos using shapeshift such as crocozino and rollin letting the playiers play on all cryptos
Well you clearly don't have much clue into what is going on here huh? Pretty much everyone who gambles on yobit, gambles with altcoin. A lot of people that are part of the Bitcoin community, also have a lot of altcoin and trade with it. If you are looking to gamble with Bitcoin, then yobit probably isn't the best site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Vantix on April 16, 2017, 10:10:26 AM
In yobit you could roll with many different coins and people might be interested in that or they are not interested or care about legit gambling sites.I am not sure yobit is a provably fair site as you will loose every time when ever you roll a big amount  :D and i do not know how to verify their rolls.

But no body cares about other currencies that not Bitcoin
Besides there are many casinos using shapeshift such as crocozino and rollin letting the playiers play on all cryptos
Well you clearly don't have much clue into what is going on here huh? Pretty much everyone who gambles on yobit, gambles with altcoin. A lot of people that are part of the Bitcoin community, also have a lot of altcoin and trade with it. If you are looking to gamble with Bitcoin, then yobit probably isn't the best site.

but you can play with rollin.io
and yet yobit still x20 bigger


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Oilacris on April 16, 2017, 10:31:29 AM
In yobit you could roll with many different coins and people might be interested in that or they are not interested or care about legit gambling sites.I am not sure yobit is a provably fair site as you will loose every time when ever you roll a big amount  :D and i do not know how to verify their rolls.

But no body cares about other currencies that not Bitcoin
Besides there are many casinos using shapeshift such as crocozino and rollin letting the playiers play on all cryptos
Well you clearly don't have much clue into what is going on here huh? Pretty much everyone who gambles on yobit, gambles with altcoin. A lot of people that are part of the Bitcoin community, also have a lot of altcoin and trade with it. If you are looking to gamble with Bitcoin, then yobit probably isn't the best site.

but you can play with rollin.io
and yet yobit still x20 bigger
Yobit is really much bigger since its an exchange site at the same time theres a gambling game inside of it like dice and that Pony race as far as i remember.I have read feedbacks on the past on its users that dice game on there isnt provably fair at all even on 2x multiplier.I cant justify since im not user of the site and i do agree that you can make use of altcoin on playing on their dice game.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: adaseb on April 16, 2017, 10:36:46 AM
Most people never go to Yobit to play their dice. It was more of a gimick they added kind of like the Trollbox. I've tried it in the past and pretty much ending up losing all my alt-coins.

Last time I played, there was no way to prove if the bets were provably fair. They never provided you with a hashed seed. Hence impossible to tell if it was fair or not.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ndnh on April 16, 2017, 10:38:55 AM
No, of course not.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 16, 2017, 11:15:19 AM
Most people never go to Yobit to play their dice. It was more of a gimick they added kind of like the Trollbox. I've tried it in the past and pretty much ending up losing all my alt-coins.

Last time I played, there was no way to prove if the bets were provably fair. They never provided you with a hashed seed. Hence impossible to tell if it was fair or not.
When I play on the site I do always seek for hash or seed on very roll and just same as you said you cant find one which means we wont really know if the dice is fair or not and I lost my alts too specially my dogecoins losing streaks are more worse than on other sites even you are betting on same multiplier.So you would able to read up the players feedbacks and play on your own risk.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: swogerino on April 16, 2017, 11:36:43 AM
It attracts 2 million players because of the many cryptocurrencies they accept the people to bet on. I don't think they are provably fair as they don't mention it in any part of their website. It must also be that they made up the 50% of all the bets happening in their websites themselves to make it look attractive and to lure new players in. I would never play in a not provably fair website when there are many provably fair with better reputation than yobit.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on April 16, 2017, 12:10:47 PM
Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
most probably not.
i have asked this question many times, even sent them a ticket but never got any answers. the only conclusion is that they want to cheat their users with a non-fair dice game.

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And why so many players there.
most things you see on yobit are fake. the volumes, the order history, the orderbook, also the bet history.
but also there are many signature campaign participants that are populating that site. and on top of that since they give out free coins, many use those shit-dead-coins to make bets with. these are coins in their free coin tab which you can never sell because 1000 units of many of them is worth 1 satoshi.

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what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
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no way the real number is even remotely close to that!
they have less than 100 signature participants and from those i doubt if a handful play the games or even trade.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: HKGolden on April 16, 2017, 12:51:02 PM
I don't know is it provably fair but I know why there are so many players there.

As you can use lot of difference coins to play in there, and you can get some free coins from their site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: paul gatt on April 16, 2017, 12:57:17 PM
You should think in the other direction, we always believe in things that have been reputable or have existed for so long, because then, it is familiar to everyone, and of course, they Use it as a habit. Though its design is simple, it still meets the needs of the user and makes people feel easy to use. That's the most important thing.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: abel1337 on April 16, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
I think its not probably fair in my side , I played yobit dice game but Ive never win it even once. I am a gambler and every gambling site I played , I am winning every gambling site I left. Literally left because I love playing on a new gambling site that is available in the internet. The thing is only yobit is the gambling site I never left and I am not playing anymore because I lost almost .5 btc by just playing and I  never stop that I won on yobit. I am always losing there , I dont know if I am the only one who never wins on yobit. But their trading site is my most love exchange ever. 


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: brokens on April 16, 2017, 01:59:12 PM
maybe their hope get profit the many, want fast rich and change life their, hahaha lol  ;D
every one want like that.  :D


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ultrloa on April 16, 2017, 02:03:55 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

What feature do you mean by fair? is it the dice or their trading site??

well if you mean there dice site i can say that they are not fair since they've got huge house edge and i can't see any good reason to play at them since they got so many bad feedbacks on that game.

And if you mean their exchanger well they are bit good since they actively adds a good coin which is good and appealing to traders but aswell as their dice we should be carefull to trade at them since they got various of bad claims of missing withdrawal of some alts aswell as their so many scam coins listed on that exchange.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Caladonian on April 16, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
for me its not because they didn't show any proof, i lose a big amount of btc from yobit using alt coins and most of the traders there also loses it, seems that yobit really did a great job hiding its gambling business and makes more people to lose their money without having any chance to see
the provably fair system.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Cazkys on April 16, 2017, 03:49:24 PM
A house edge of 5% or more obviously it's not provably fair, I remember back then when I campaigned their signature, get paid automatically and tried their dice game to play. I lost 0.03BTC on playing their dice, I thought it's my bad luck but not. I read also some complaints regarding on this matter that their dice game is rigged, IMO the highest HE among the gambling sites that I encountered.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: WarrEagle on April 16, 2017, 05:50:37 PM
In yobit you could roll with many different coins and people might be interested in that or they are not interested or care about legit gambling sites.I am not sure yobit is a provably fair site as you will loose every time when ever you roll a big amount  :D and i do not know how to verify their rolls.

That's not exactly correct. You only lose if the coins you are betting on have more value than 1 satoshi.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: iv4n on April 16, 2017, 05:57:41 PM
2 million people go to Yobit every month to play dices? Noo f. way!
I have several comments about their dices and each one of them is negative. I lost with all coins that I tried to gamble, price of the coins is not matter. That was two years ago, maybe more. I even was in their campaign for some time, and I don`t remember that anyone said that he won something there. About customer service there is no point to even talk, they are well known for that, they need a lot of time for everything. Look at scam accusation section, you will see many topics about yobit.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ultrloa on April 16, 2017, 11:27:08 PM
2 million people go to Yobit every month to play dices? Noo f. way!
I have several comments about their dices and each one of them is negative. I lost with all coins that I tried to gamble, price of the coins is not matter. That was two years ago, maybe more. I even was in their campaign for some time, and I don`t remember that anyone said that he won something there. About customer service there is no point to even talk, they are well known for that, they need a lot of time for everything. Look at scam accusation section, you will see many topics about yobit.

2 million people will surely are on exchanger not on dice since im pretty sure that people are aware of their dice fairness and to many bad feedbacks that can surely made people go away to play at them. And im not surprised here if people will say bad against them since their costumer service is so bad and they need to refix that one so the trust of people will regain back and no doubt will came again to them.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BitMaxz on April 16, 2017, 11:34:33 PM
In my own experience in yobit when i was addicted in dice game i was trying to gamble in their dice game altcoin and bitcoin but i lose my bitcoin fast and altcoin fast.. and i think its not a good place to gamble to make a good profit you will end up lose..
Also experience that sometimes i forgot to change my wallet into altcoin instead i bet all my bitcoin balance in one bet and lose..
So for me it is not a good and provably fair game.. i heard that their odds are 5%.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: RichDaniel on April 17, 2017, 12:39:22 AM
Yobit is a shady site, bad exchange, and their dice is rigged. Don't recommend you play there.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Ayiranorea on April 17, 2017, 01:13:43 AM
With Yobit you could find most of the coins that were not listed in other exchange websites. This mainly helps traders who wish to participate in gambling with bitcoin. Trading those coins and placing beta in the form of bitcoin makes the gambling effective.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: sulendra12 on April 17, 2017, 05:05:39 AM
That's not exactly correct. You only lose if the coins you are betting on have more value than 1 satoshi.
Really? . So we have a reason to avoid playing dice on Yobit.

I think is not, I have tried once and I can say you can't win from there even using altcoin, stay away with Dice on Yobit.net but I don't see any problem with the exchange, except those shit coins.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Hanako on April 17, 2017, 05:24:38 AM
Yobit is a shady site, bad exchange, and their dice is rigged. Don't recommend you play there.
yeah yobit is not probably fair dice sites for me i lose many coins in them usually in all shitcoins that listed in their exchange is not a nice way to trade because if you at in pump time then it dump and dump go to 1sats. What a terrible exchange site so now i'm in poloniex and bittrex


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: adaseb on April 17, 2017, 11:26:36 AM
Back in the day, Yobit was fairly reliable. There were no issues and they usually listed most new and up and coming coins.

However later on they started to go downhill. First it was the ICOs that they listed and many of them were scams. Next was the Yobit Dice game which was never provably fair and a few months ago there was a news article that they are currently under investigation by the Russian authorities for committing fraud.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Coroline on April 17, 2017, 11:49:36 AM
And why so many players there.
As i see there they are just gambling with a shitcoin, many shitcoin was rip there, so if they lose i think that's not a big problems


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: machinek20 on April 17, 2017, 12:16:12 PM
There are no provably fair in that site, so never played with your coin in that site, I think the site is only find another way to generate income, and I dont see many people playing in that site either


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Wowcoin on April 17, 2017, 12:18:16 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Maybe some go there to trade not to gamble or play for past time. In yobit have many free coins to claim so they can play all they can using the free coins and i tried played also there using free coins its fun.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: soul-impact on April 17, 2017, 12:39:25 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Maybe some go there to trade not to gamble or play for past time. In yobit have many free coins to claim so they can play all they can using the free coins and i tried played also there using free coins its fun.
The free coin is not exactly the reason why people use it. Yobit is known as one of the largest trading floor in the world, it is used by prestige and stability. Instead of using new modern trading platforms but not stable system, people choose the security and stability. That is why yobit is used by many people even though it is old.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: tiggytomb on April 17, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
I really wouldn't use Yobit as a dice site, there are much better fair and trusted sites for that.  They probably get a lot of users using their faucets to get free dead coins and then gambling on the dice game.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: pinggoki on April 17, 2017, 01:51:40 PM
I really wouldn't use Yobit as a dice site, there are much better fair and trusted sites for that.  They probably get a lot of users using their faucets to get free dead coins and then gambling on the dice game.
Yeah I also not use Yobit to play dice because there are more better and trusted sites for dice game. Yet, some gambling that have dice game have a big amount of faucet so that you could play with a long time. And I think yobit is not probably fair because I lost many coins there.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: milewilda on April 17, 2017, 03:04:48 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Maybe some go there to trade not to gamble or play for past time. In yobit have many free coins to claim so they can play all they can using the free coins and i tried played also there using free coins its fun.
The free coin is not exactly the reason why people use it. Yobit is known as one of the largest trading floor in the world, it is used by prestige and stability. Instead of using new modern trading platforms but not stable system, people choose the security and stability. That is why yobit is used by many people even though it is old.
Yobit does still operates and been here for longer periods as of now and you are right its being still used by some users but not to be compared on polo and bittrex i suppose and This exchange does have really many issues and you can eventually read it on their thread or any on this forum.They are known bad on their support which most users do really complain about this thing.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BTCevo on April 17, 2017, 04:02:15 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

It does not have correspond between many players and provably fair, because AFAIK they have many players because of they are exchanger so many people do the trading there and some of them only aim their gambling


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: adaseb on April 18, 2017, 07:40:24 AM
And why so many players there.
As i see there they are just gambling with a shitcoin, many shitcoin was rip there, so if they lose i think that's not a big problems

It doesn't matter because those "shitcoin" actually hold some value. Maybe not as much as Bitcoin itself but they might be worth a few sats. And there are the people who bets in the hundreds and thousands of quantity.

Either way they are still cheating if its with real BTC or some scam coin alt coin which has a 1 Satoshi value


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ultrloa on April 18, 2017, 07:50:13 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

It does not have correspond between many players and provably fair, because AFAIK they have many players because of they are exchanger so many people do the trading there and some of them only aim their gambling

Its a bad choice for them to play on their since yobit dice game is known for having a huge houseedge and that could gives us less chance to win and feel sorry those newbies who's been caught by them. And i think majority of that 2m numbers of people visiting at their site are.just their to trade their certain shitcoins accumulated from free bounty distribution and some of them also are been their just for the sake of arbitrage trading.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: dunfida on April 18, 2017, 07:59:07 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

It does not have correspond between many players and provably fair, because AFAIK they have many players because of they are exchanger so many people do the trading there and some of them only aim their gambling

Its a bad choice for them to play on their since yobit dice game is known for having a huge houseedge and that could gives us less chance to win and feel sorry those newbies who's been caught by them. And i think majority of that 2m numbers of people visiting at their site are.just their to trade their certain shitcoins accumulated from free bounty distribution and some of them also are been their just for the sake of arbitrage trading.
I do think the same thing too on which most users who do make use of the site are those people who gain coins from bounties and tend to sell it from the site or at the same time they do arbitrage trading same as you said and one thing i do observe players on dice seems like a bot for me.it does really run most of the time.well its just my own view.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BTCLovingDude on April 18, 2017, 10:54:32 AM
It does not have correspond between many players and provably fair, because AFAIK they have many players because of they are exchanger so many people do the trading there and some of them only aim their gambling

well that's the thing. i have pointed out this problem in my previous answer. their platform is terrible. have you even tried it yet?
anybody who has tried their services know it is very bad. and as long as there are by far better services out there, why would anyone even choose this platform!
you are advertising bitsler in your signature so i am sure you have visited their site since you get paid there. now go visit Yobit's dice section and see what i mean when i say "terrible platform"


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Wowcoin on April 18, 2017, 12:45:14 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Maybe some go there to trade not to gamble or play for past time. In yobit have many free coins to claim so they can play all they can using the free coins and i tried played also there using free coins its fun.
The free coin is not exactly the reason why people use it. Yobit is known as one of the largest trading floor in the world, it is used by prestige and stability. Instead of using new modern trading platforms but not stable system, people choose the security and stability. That is why yobit is used by many people even though it is old.
Yobit does still operates and been here for longer periods as of now and you are right its being still used by some users but not to be compared on polo and bittrex i suppose and This exchange does have really many issues and you can eventually read it on their thread or any on this forum.They are known bad on their support which most users do really complain about this thing.
Yeah i know yobit is the one known that you can trade altcoins i trade how many times there. And you are right many issues especially to support i lose some of my coins there without knowing what happen i submitted my complain but no one answer me.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Lecam on April 19, 2017, 12:21:36 PM
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: adaseb on April 19, 2017, 11:17:59 PM
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

Quit posting false info or I will report you to the "ADMIRALSPOT" signature campaign admin that you are just spamming threads in the gambling topic without providing any important info.

If you actually took the time to read the thread you would know 100% that their dice is not provably fair.



Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: hermanhs09 on April 19, 2017, 11:22:14 PM
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

It is not.

They are just like regular aonline casinos, you have no idea how they operate. They may bait you with a few wins at the start but then once you start gambling legit, they take out the wins and replace them with losses.

Don't play on their site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: SamsungBitcoin on April 20, 2017, 01:04:43 AM
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

It is not.

They are just like regular aonline casinos, you have no idea how they operate. They may bait you with a few wins at the start but then once you start gambling legit, they take out the wins and replace them with losses.

Don't play on their site.
Agree with you mate that yobit is not really fair, at first playing on their dice i always that is why i will gives lot of time to play on but later on i play regularly and i realized that some of my altcoin would start loosing. they will do 1 : 3 favor of lose.
Now i decided to withdraw my total bitcoin on that site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: bitKaBoom on April 20, 2017, 02:08:00 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

yobit is not gambling site , this is exchange trading..


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Pursuer on April 20, 2017, 06:55:18 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
yobit is not gambling site , this is exchange trading..

it is not even an exchange service!
Yobit is a place made to make money for the owners. they do all kinds of shady behavior to make more money. a non provably fair dice game is only the smallest part of it all.
checking the trading part you can see how many fake pumps they do which you can not even join in. the deposits of that particular coin they are pumping will be disabled first a couple of days before and then during the pump you can easily see orders being filled which are below your order and history reports of fake orders that aren't even doable according to their minimum volume rule!


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Lecam on April 20, 2017, 07:14:00 AM
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

It is not.

They are just like regular aonline casinos, you have no idea how they operate. They may bait you with a few wins at the start but then once you start gambling legit, they take out the wins and replace them with losses.

Don't play on their site.
Agree with you mate that yobit is not really fair, at first playing on their dice i always that is why i will gives lot of time to play on but later on i play regularly and i realized that some of my altcoin would start loosing. they will do 1 : 3 favor of lose.
Now i decided to withdraw my total bitcoin on that site.
Okay if do mistake sorry because i dont gamble there i only trade bitcoin/altcoins so if yobit is not really fair okay thank for the info so that i can not try to gamble in that site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: abel1337 on April 20, 2017, 07:55:42 AM
Yes i think yobit is provably fair because many are play there they always go back to play and many people are playing there so this site are good. And also we can trade altcoins there many choices to be trade.

It is not.

They are just like regular aonline casinos, you have no idea how they operate. They may bait you with a few wins at the start but then once you start gambling legit, they take out the wins and replace them with losses.

Don't play on their site.
Agree with you mate that yobit is not really fair, at first playing on their dice i always that is why i will gives lot of time to play on but later on i play regularly and i realized that some of my altcoin would start loosing. they will do 1 : 3 favor of lose.
Now i decided to withdraw my total bitcoin on that site.
Okay if do mistake sorry because i dont gamble there i only trade bitcoin/altcoins so if yobit is not really fair okay thank for the info so that i can not try to gamble in that site.
Yes thats might be good for you to just trade altcoins their because we both not lucky on their gambling game, I didnt even win a single time on playing in their gambling game because I see it not probably fair. Its just good to avoid it


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: adaseb on April 20, 2017, 08:37:02 AM
Yes there is tons of confusion in this thread. The title should of been different like "Is YoBit Dice provably" fair because everybody is confused with the exchange site. Even though I heard of some scams on the exchange the main culprit is the Yobit Dice which I have yet to find someone who actually won anything.

I never really gamble on there but someone here should just tell them that we are concerned and to make the dice provably fair to stop the scam accusations against them. If they have nothing to hide then they should do it.



Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: bajing on April 20, 2017, 08:59:22 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: tabas on April 20, 2017, 09:08:28 AM
I don't have an idea if they are provably fair and I haven't seen a banner or any quoted words on their site with such "provably fair". It's just another feature for being an exchange website and the fact that most of us are just going to there to dice our alt coins or just claiming free alt coins and just dicing it for having fun.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: crairezx20 on April 20, 2017, 09:15:32 AM
I heard that Yobit is not provably fair because their odds is high than 1% and i already experience of many loses in their site  same as you gamble with altcoin. never had any profit you can be stay long but your your profit will never be reach base in my experience..
But i heard someone before that they are gamble with altcoin and lucky they made huge profit with dogecoin before.. Ill also tried that altcoin but badluck i can't even make above the capital..


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: noictib on April 20, 2017, 10:02:14 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
I think yobit is not have any probably fair like thing , it is because I'd you will try to see in the yobit site  , then you will not find any word that says that probably fair is attached in the yobit system .
Well here a big thing that I would like to tell you that you can't make any Profit with yobit , it is because  the system of yobit will always result into loss of your bet with big bet , about one weeks ago I made three bet continuously with 0.003 bet but didn't get won :( that is what , but when I made bet with 0.0003 then I won 2 our three bets . I will suggest not to make Gambling at yobit in high-low bet game .


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: milewilda on April 20, 2017, 10:46:09 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Maybe some go there to trade not to gamble or play for past time. In yobit have many free coins to claim so they can play all they can using the free coins and i tried played also there using free coins its fun.
The free coin is not exactly the reason why people use it. Yobit is known as one of the largest trading floor in the world, it is used by prestige and stability. Instead of using new modern trading platforms but not stable system, people choose the security and stability. That is why yobit is used by many people even though it is old.
Yobit does still operates and been here for longer periods as of now and you are right its being still used by some users but not to be compared on polo and bittrex i suppose and This exchange does have really many issues and you can eventually read it on their thread or any on this forum.They are known bad on their support which most users do really complain about this thing.
Yeah i know yobit is the one known that you can trade altcoins i trade how many times there. And you are right many issues especially to support i lose some of my coins there without knowing what happen i submitted my complain but no one answer me.
Not only but i did tried out to make trading on that site and you are not the only one whose experiencing this thing but there are lots of users do really complain regarding on this matter which they didnt even know what happen to their coins and contacting their support is the most hassle part on engaging to the site because it would really take years for them to answer you related to your problem which i can say the baddest support ever on an exchange site.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: soul-impact on April 20, 2017, 11:41:34 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.

Your thinking is very accurate, even though they have proven their site to be fair, but they always have the tricks to alter its probability. Think about it, obviously they use percentage as a standard, but they do not use rolls from 0 to 100, whereas they use a larger scale, from 0 to 1000. Change, but in some ways it makes your odds of losing bigger, and when you make big rollovers, you lose more easily.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: RocketSingh on April 20, 2017, 11:48:02 AM
What is the house edge of YoBit.net games?


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: numanoid on April 20, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry.
If they can show every bet you have made are fair and you are also can check it by yourself or by other verifier (dicesite) you don't hvave to worry anything, but the problem is some user who don't know how to check if that site has used provably fair or not.

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but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.
Yes, don't trust Fortunejack too then, but why would you promote them even though you have said you never trust dice site?
Get 20 reds straight isn't impossible, try to learn how probability works first in gambling.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: PhucS on April 20, 2017, 03:41:46 PM
I really wouldn't use Yobit as a dice site, there are much better fair and trusted sites for that.  They probably get a lot of users using their faucets to get free dead coins and then gambling on the dice game.
Yes, of course, I also will not play dice on yobit.net. The focus of yobit.net is the trading platform, where people trade and trade electronic currencies, I think the dice game is just small integral part of the site. If you want to gamble, we can find other sites that are of much quality and better. I also doubt the fairness of the dice game in yobit.net because many people have said that they lose a lot of money because of it.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: adaseb on April 20, 2017, 10:19:31 PM
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry.
If they can show every bet you have made are fair and you are also can check it by yourself or by other verifier (dicesite) you don't hvave to worry anything, but the problem is some user who don't know how to check if that site has used provably fair or not.

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but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.
Yes, don't trust Fortunejack too then, but why would you promote them even though you have said you never trust dice site?
Get 20 reds straight isn't impossible, try to learn how probability works first in gambling.

What you say is true. Most people always look for "provably fair" type of gambling sites but 99% of them don't actual know how to verify the bets or don't actually get their bets verified. All that they do is change the client seed themselves and assume, its fair that way.

Which is true, changing the client seed will randomize the output but if its not checked manually then what's the point.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Mike Mayor on April 20, 2017, 11:48:25 PM
They have their gambling dice set to 0.01 so if you accidentally play you lose more it was at 0.001 and they do thst for that very reason. They make the buttons nice and big by the trollbox too. Also it's snowing exchange so you can gamble and currency and I guess people get greedy and also tempted. It's not probably fair the house edge is probably high like 4% yet people still play. I don't understand it.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: hermanhs09 on April 21, 2017, 12:16:34 AM
They have their gambling dice set to 0.01 so if you accidentally play you lose more it was at 0.001 and they do thst for that very reason. They make the buttons nice and big by the trollbox too. Also it's snowing exchange so you can gamble and currency and I guess people get greedy and also tempted. It's not probably fair the house edge is probably high like 4% yet people still play. I don't understand it.

Yeah, that's what every single site does. Suck you in.

And then once you're sucked in, they want you to play more and more, and make sure that you don't ever stop.

Yobit likely doesn't have a provably fair system because they aren't fair.

Personally, I always lose when I do a bet over 0.01 BTC. Unlike the provably fair dice sites, I can accuse them of being rigged because they don't have anything to verify with that proves the rolls are not rigged.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BitFinnese on April 21, 2017, 01:19:13 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.

Your thinking is very accurate, even though they have proven their site to be fair, but they always have the tricks to alter its probability. Think about it, obviously they use percentage as a standard, but they do not use rolls from 0 to 100, whereas they use a larger scale, from 0 to 1000. Change, but in some ways it makes your odds of losing bigger, and when you make big rollovers, you lose more easily.

I wonder if you really know how provably fair works.  Coz, if you know how it works then you won't be doubting any dice sites that can show you the hash of the roll.  If they rigged it then it can be caught by simply checking the hash.  Though I do not have any idea if Dice in yobit is provably fair  since there is no indication if it is, probably not but I am not sure.  All I can see is their 2% house edge.  Quite high though.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: milewilda on April 21, 2017, 02:45:41 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry. but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.

Your thinking is very accurate, even though they have proven their site to be fair, but they always have the tricks to alter its probability. Think about it, obviously they use percentage as a standard, but they do not use rolls from 0 to 100, whereas they use a larger scale, from 0 to 1000. Change, but in some ways it makes your odds of losing bigger, and when you make big rollovers, you lose more easily.

I wonder if you really know how provably fair works.  Coz, if you know how it works then you won't be doubting any dice sites that can show you the hash of the roll.  If they rigged it then it can be caught by simply checking the hash.  Though I do not have any idea if Dice in yobit is provably fair  since there is no indication if it is, probably not but I am not sure.  All I can see is their 2% house edge.  Quite high though.
you cant check the seed or hashes on each roll of playing dice in yobit which means chances of being riggid is really high since players cant see it then they end up lossing then they cant justify their rolls because its not possible to check it out and 2% houseedge wont be nothing if rolls arent provably fair at all.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on April 21, 2017, 02:54:52 AM
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: michkima on April 21, 2017, 02:59:27 AM
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!

What yobit did was still a smart move in my opinion. Think about it like this, when you lost money from investments and trading then you would have some kind of urge to gamble, can't say this is true for everyone but it is for some. This is the opportunity yobit is seizing.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Caladonian on April 21, 2017, 03:07:24 AM
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!

What yobit did was still a smart move in my opinion. Think about it like this, when you lost money from investments and trading then you would have some kind of urge to gamble, can't say this is true for everyone but it is for some. This is the opportunity yobit is seizing.
many times its happen to me before, as i seen alts value is falling and i don't have enough time to wait for the price being pumped up
that's the time that I'm going to play my coin and searching for some luck but shit always happen that's why i really avoiding trading inside
yobit now don't want to lose more money.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: michkima on April 21, 2017, 01:45:03 PM
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!

What yobit did was still a smart move in my opinion. Think about it like this, when you lost money from investments and trading then you would have some kind of urge to gamble, can't say this is true for everyone but it is for some. This is the opportunity yobit is seizing.
many times its happen to me before, as i seen alts value is falling and i don't have enough time to wait for the price being pumped up
that's the time that I'm going to play my coin and searching for some luck but shit always happen that's why i really avoiding trading inside
yobit now don't want to lose more money.

This is what I was talking about, you are one of the clear example of what happens in yobit! The very reason why they offer this is because people are really hasty and don't really think well when they are seeing a red streak on their investment or trading activity. So what people do is like what you did to get over those losses.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: wvasko on April 21, 2017, 09:05:35 PM
I don't put the sites in 2 groups, as provably or not provably fair, but I put them in 2 groups: paying & not paying.

YObit is a very good site! You can see & feel that after a withdrawal.

Don't expect to be easy. It's never easy to win at gambling sites, even less on trading sites.

Collect free coins, refer others, trade, but don't roll too often! :)

Good luck!


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: boyptc on April 22, 2017, 06:14:05 AM
I don't put the sites in 2 groups, as provably or not provably fair, but I put them in 2 groups: paying & not paying.

YObit is a very good site! You can see & feel that after a withdrawal.

Don't expect to be easy. It's never easy to win at gambling sites, even less on trading sites.

Collect free coins, refer others, trade, but don't roll too often! :)

Good luck!

There are a lot of people that are complaining with their withdrawal and we are talking about their dice game. I don't think they are provably fair because, I just sense that they really not and it's just another way for them to earn. It's like having fun after trading, so traders doesn't need to go to other dice sites for just to dice because they can dice their immediately.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: shone08 on April 22, 2017, 06:46:10 AM
Yobit Is not provably fair,why? because I played many times in there dice games and no luck unless i losses many times.
Their house edge is probably high 2 to 4%.
Many trader also experience that in yobit and I suggest avoid playing dice game in yobit because its not easy to win in any gambling sites.

Good Luck to you!


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Lecam on April 22, 2017, 09:49:28 AM
I don't put the sites in 2 groups, as provably or not provably fair, but I put them in 2 groups: paying & not paying.

YObit is a very good site! You can see & feel that after a withdrawal.

Don't expect to be easy. It's never easy to win at gambling sites, even less on trading sites.

Collect free coins, refer others, trade, but don't roll too often! :)

Good luck!
Its true gambling are not easy and most gambling site are not easy to win too. But sometimes people they can't control there self to gamble even you say roll often but once they lose they want to get back there lose and they go gamble again.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: karmamiu on April 22, 2017, 02:06:12 PM
I don't put the sites in 2 groups, as provably or not provably fair, but I put them in 2 groups: paying & not paying.

YObit is a very good site! You can see & feel that after a withdrawal.

Don't expect to be easy. It's never easy to win at gambling sites, even less on trading sites.

Collect free coins, refer others, trade, but don't roll too often! :)

Good luck!
Its true gambling are not easy and most gambling site are not easy to win too. But sometimes people they can't control there self to gamble even you say roll often but once they lose they want to get back there lose and they go gamble again.

Yes that's the main problem of the most gamblers lose more than what you win, but still you can discipline yourself and be less greedy. In some people when they lose they would stop for a bit and relax, or they would really stop for good and try their luck in some other way.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: terrate on April 22, 2017, 02:50:37 PM
They can show you about probably fair and can proof every bet you made are fair so why you worry.
If they can show every bet you have made are fair and you are also can check it by yourself or by other verifier (dicesite) you don't hvave to worry anything, but the problem is some user who don't know how to check if that site has used provably fair or not.

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but im never trust dice site even they can show probably fair, only reason sometimes we can get 20 strike in a row is out of reasonable.
Yes, don't trust Fortunejack too then, but why would you promote them even though you have said you never trust dice site?
Get 20 reds straight isn't impossible, try to learn how probability works first in gambling.

What you say is true. Most people always look for "provably fair" type of gambling sites but 99% of them don't actual know how to verify the bets or don't actually get their bets verified. All that they do is change the client seed themselves and assume, its fair that way.

Which is true, changing the client seed will randomize the output but if its not checked manually then what's the point.

That's true. many people don't know how to verify their bets and check whether is fair.
I'm one of them. I just know to change seed at some time.



Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Betwrong on April 22, 2017, 03:23:45 PM
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!

You maybe right on exchange and trading but there is one reason to play dice game on yobit. They have this section, FreeCoins, where you can get up to 3k satoshis worth of various altcoins. Then, if you are lucky, you can make it to 10k with dice and after that you can trade them for BTC.  ;) At least once I'd managed to do that. I would even recommend this to addicted gamblers who can't stop gambling. At least this way they wouldn't lose their money.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 22, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

maybe yobit.net is provably fair so this is make people like to playing gambling in their site. actually i don't know about gambling games in yobit.net too much because i just only doing trading in that sites and sometimes i take free coins from them. maybe later i will trying to playing gambling in yobit.net and see how my luck will work or not.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: izanagi narukami on April 22, 2017, 04:16:27 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

maybe yobit.net is provably fair so this is make people like to playing gambling in their site. actually i don't know about gambling games in yobit.net too much because i just only doing trading in that sites and sometimes i take free coins from them. maybe later i will trying to playing gambling in yobit.net and see how my luck will work or not.

AFAIK yobit is an exchanger but when they build another gambling site, I feel something is not right so i'm not comfort to play there.
Their provably fair "calculation" is not rational based on community feedback on last year


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: PhucS on April 24, 2017, 02:26:37 PM
i think a much better question would be "why would anyone want to play dice on Yobit"!
if you have ever played a dice game on any of the top sites like bitsler or crypto-games or even on one of the newer sites like YoloDice then you can see what i mean. yobit doesn't even have a half decent design, there is no auto bet, there is no changing of multiplier there are no hotkeys and there are alot of things missing.
so the question "why would anyone choose Yobit over other better places" and that goes for the exchange and trading part too!
To put it right, yobit is a website that deals with electronic money transactions. People buy, sell, exchange electronic money here to make a profit. I think yobit has integrated game dice, it's just a small part. They have the dice game section to make more profit. People often play here because after profitable trading, yobit has a dice game right next to it so it's easy for gamblers to play immediately without spending time go to other sites. . I also agree with you that its design looks a bit old and lacks a lot of stuff, its transparency is not guaranteed


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: beerlover on April 25, 2017, 07:44:12 PM
You are approaching this all wrong, it should be “why is everyone who plays at yobit not playing anywhere else?” and maybe they are, maybe they do, the problem is not with yobit its with other websites, try to look at it this way, maybe yobit is better than some of the other websites? That is why?


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Magisterek on April 25, 2017, 09:26:42 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: EdenHazard on April 25, 2017, 09:37:14 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

maybe yobit.net is provably fair so this is make people like to playing gambling in their site. actually i don't know about gambling games in yobit.net too much because i just only doing trading in that sites and sometimes i take free coins from them. maybe later i will trying to playing gambling in yobit.net and see how my luck will work or not.

AFAIK yobit is an exchanger but when they build another gambling site, I feel something is not right so i'm not comfort to play there.
Their provably fair "calculation" is not rational based on community feedback on last year
what provably fair calculation? lol , they even don't have a page / a way to verify the game . and as NLNico said that as long as they did not mentioning about provably fair then they are deserve to called as not provably fair , fair enough right?

there a lot of problem unresolved at yobit , but people keep playing there , clearly they are operating so shady.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BitcoinMarshal on April 25, 2017, 09:40:52 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
I also use this dice game with many different coins and its works good for me also best option is you can play with many different coins which is not available on any other site they have many problems but still too many peoples enjoying and winning its still strange for me but its going on for some time without any problem in dice


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Arcteryx on April 25, 2017, 10:37:48 PM
I have used their site for dice rolls when I have a little to spare to play with.
And actually do make 10mbtc for betting just on 15 or more rolls which is not bad.
I think it results on how much you have transacted on site with trades done with the alt coins on there.
Just maybe. :D


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Gintama214 on April 29, 2017, 04:00:09 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

Me myself just registered on https://yobit.net/en/ (https://yobit.net/en/) and as a new member in Yobit it is really easy to use and user friendly. I see there are many coins that are in the market and it has simple design as you said and many features such as, Dice, FreeCoins, (wallet) that can store most of the coins and BTC that is available in the Market which is registered to yobit, History of your purchase and payment, coin information, and especially the feature to ADD new Coins on the market. It is really good website for cryptocurrency and I think i t is a fair one.  ;)


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on April 29, 2017, 06:40:49 AM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.

care to share more information about "your experience" with us too. because i don't see anything indicating their fairness.
did you by any chance get any "seed" for player seed and server seed and then check the hashes in a function to come to this conclusion to call them "fair" or "legit"?


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: bhadz on April 29, 2017, 07:01:30 AM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.

care to share more information about "your experience" with us too. because i don't see anything indicating their fairness.
did you by any chance get any "seed" for player seed and server seed and then check the hashes in a function to come to this conclusion to call them "fair" or "legit"?

Yeah I haven't seen any sign of them for being provably fair. Actually I'm just playing their dice when I've got some alt coins that wants to spend and I haven't dice any single mBTC on that site. But it looks like there are some that are earning from their dice and the reason for having a lot of visitors and gamblers there maybe because of their effective marketing.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ralle14 on April 29, 2017, 07:41:00 AM
What is the house edge of YoBit.net games?
Their house edge is 2% I think since you need to roll under 49/over 51 to win with x2 odds. It's not even provably fair because you can't verify your own bets the history only show you the game id, roll ,profit ,bet,time and which coin you used.

Besides there are many casinos using shapeshift such as crocozino and rollin letting the playiers play on all cryptos
What does this even mean? Shapeshift is exchange  ;D
He did meant the exchange but I don't think gambling sites like rollin will let you play using other coin. But they do accept deposits from other coin and will just convert it to bitcoin.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: raven7886 on April 29, 2017, 09:38:29 AM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?

maybe yobit.net is provably fair so this is make people like to playing gambling in their site. actually i don't know about gambling games in yobit.net too much because i just only doing trading in that sites and sometimes i take free coins from them. maybe later i will trying to playing gambling in yobit.net and see how my luck will work or not.

AFAIK yobit is an exchanger but when they build another gambling site, I feel something is not right so i'm not comfort to play there.
Their provably fair "calculation" is not rational based on community feedback on last year
The game is not provably fair rather its probably fair. I suggest anyone trying to earn a few extra bucks to try proper gambling sites rather than these exchanges.

Yobit is flawless for exchanging altcoins with bitcoins but for gambling I would not even suggest anyone to play there. In fact sometimes they even stuck your withdraw though it's solved later, that's understandable too ..


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Supercrypt on April 29, 2017, 12:56:51 PM
And why so many players there.
what i see is simple design from year 1990.
what so special that 2 Millions players go there  every month ?
Honestly the game is not verificable and you have to trust the site for the results. Added to this, I have made like thousands of bets there and one thing I can frankly say is either the game is rigged or you become terribly unlucky once you start betting bigger amounts.

I can guarantee that if you make 100 bets with 0.0001 and 100 bets with 0.001 you will see a significant change. I have myself faced this so I can say this, never use yobit for betting, its just a exchange.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Whosdaddy on May 02, 2017, 07:14:03 AM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
You don't call a game provably fair just because you feel and think so.

Provably fair means that the user can verify his bets and if I am not wrong or unless added recently, there is no page or system to verify our bets. Though everything been said, I have made some bets there and never felt any issues with the site but yes having fairness that can be verified is very important.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: marlboroza on May 02, 2017, 10:54:56 AM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
No, it's not.
There is no possible way to verify rolls. You can't say it is just because you have good experience. Someone with bad experience will say game is rigged. Non of that is correct.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Palodar on May 02, 2017, 11:21:59 AM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
You don't call a game provably fair just because you feel and think so.

Provably fair means that the user can verify his bets and if I am not wrong or unless added recently, there is no page or system to verify our bets. Though everything been said, I have made some bets there and never felt any issues with the site but yes having fairness that can be verified is very important.

Yobit don't offer client seed for the bet that's why can't provide proof for their transparency on fairness. That's why playing on their dice game is very risky. There are a lot of dice game site that accepts alt coin like FJ, bitsler and directbet.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: blockman on May 02, 2017, 12:06:32 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.

Do you know what you are answering or did you read the question of OP very clear? He is clearly asking about yobit.net's dice. And he wants to know if it is a provably fair dice game and I will answer like others said, it's a no. There's no indication and clear quotation that they are implementing fair, they are truly greedy and if you are going to dice there you will end up losing.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Renji Abarai on May 02, 2017, 12:24:04 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
You don't call a game provably fair just because you feel and think so.

Provably fair means that the user can verify his bets and if I am not wrong or unless added recently, there is no page or system to verify our bets. Though everything been said, I have made some bets there and never felt any issues with the site but yes having fairness that can be verified is very important.

Yobit don't offer client seed for the bet that's why can't provide proof for their transparency on fairness. That's why playing on their dice game is very risky. There are a lot of dice game site that accepts alt coin like FJ, bitsler and directbet.

Oh I wonder I always lose on their dice game. But its OK since its only a small amount or some coins that is given for free. I play in yobit  before the YoPony, I like it but sometimes it takes time to wait to start the game.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: milewilda on May 02, 2017, 02:17:30 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
You don't call a game provably fair just because you feel and think so.

Provably fair means that the user can verify his bets and if I am not wrong or unless added recently, there is no page or system to verify our bets. Though everything been said, I have made some bets there and never felt any issues with the site but yes having fairness that can be verified is very important.

Yobit don't offer client seed for the bet that's why can't provide proof for their transparency on fairness. That's why playing on their dice game is very risky. There are a lot of dice game site that accepts alt coin like FJ, bitsler and directbet.

Oh I wonder I always lose on their dice game. But its OK since its only a small amount or some coins that is given for free. I play in yobit  before the YoPony, I like it but sometimes it takes time to wait to start the game.
Ive seen that game which is "YoPony" its a horse racing based game but the countdown on starting the game is very long which you would really need to wait for you to witness the result and speaking on the prize i think its decent and if i were to say its more provably fair than to their dice game.Their dice totally sucks even my free altcoins used on 2x multiplier all lose up with having long streaks with that multiplier which we can really say its not fair at all.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: chaser15 on May 02, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
As for a person when sees lots of active dice player in Yobit, they must also checked the currency that is being used. Because Yobit offers freecoins and most of the chea pcoins are there, it's really making sense if we saw that their dice site is active with other currencies. That is normal and I don't see any surprises with that.

As for provably fair, we can't see any option stated about that even we have to explore the whole site interface. The answer is obvious here. But you know, I have a good experience with this site back in my newbie days. I won up to BTC0.2 from BTC0.01 in their dice. Beginners luck as always.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Lionidas on May 02, 2017, 04:30:30 PM
I also think it is provably fair because I won some time with 0.01btc bet and made it into 0.02btc on one lucky roll.
But I won't test my luck with rolling more than 5 times because one of those rolls can wipe your entire balance on the site so fast. As with any other dice site can do to you as well. :-[


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: BitcoinMarshal on May 02, 2017, 06:08:36 PM
I also think it is provably fair because I won some time with 0.01btc bet and made it into 0.02btc on one lucky roll.
But I won't test my luck with rolling more than 5 times because one of those rolls can wipe your entire balance on the site so fast. As with any other dice site can do to you as well. :-[
Today this same happen to me because I have balance of 26000 Doges and I play some dice I touch 55000 Doges but my greediness kill me and bring down with all zeros in balance its can happen on any dice game


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: RealPhotoshoper on May 02, 2017, 07:43:07 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
You don't call a game provably fair just because you feel and think so.

Provably fair means that the user can verify his bets and if I am not wrong or unless added recently, there is no page or system to verify our bets. Though everything been said, I have made some bets there and never felt any issues with the site but yes having fairness that can be verified is very important.

Yobit don't offer client seed for the bet that's why can't provide proof for their transparency on fairness. That's why playing on their dice game is very risky. There are a lot of dice game site that accepts alt coin like FJ, bitsler and directbet.
Only the fool one who keep playing dice there on yobit.
It is clearly the games has no provably fair system , the outcome really can be manipulated anytime as they wish.
Be a smart person , don't fall into something that too good to be true.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: spngebob on May 02, 2017, 08:51:29 PM
Yobit doesn't have provably fair system implemented in dice.
No one can tell if dice is fair or not but IMO gambling site doesn't have to manipulate anything because most people will lose.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: marlboroza on May 02, 2017, 09:39:46 PM
I also think it is provably fair because I won some time with 0.01btc bet and made it into 0.02btc on one lucky roll.
But I won't test my luck with rolling more than 5 times because one of those rolls can wipe your entire balance on the site so fast. As with any other dice site can do to you as well. :-[
OMG you won 1 time and site is provably fair?
Please use google and type "WHAT IS PROVABLY FAIR"!

Can someone please lock this topic?



Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on May 02, 2017, 10:43:39 PM
I also think it is provably fair because I won some time with 0.01btc bet and made it into 0.02btc on one lucky roll.
But I won't test my luck with rolling more than 5 times because one of those rolls can wipe your entire balance on the site so fast. As with any other dice site can do to you as well. :-[
With just one roll you really cannot test how provably fair Yobit system is,but i am pretty sure that it will consume your entire balance if you continue for a longer period of time and i am not even sure whether you could verify your rolls,because i have not rolled in that site with bitcoin ,simply because i do not trust how things work in that site but i did try rolling with a alt but i ended up busting everything and i did not care too long about that,when i checked on verifying my rolls and i could not find that,but i am not sure because i was not serious about the whole process.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: ultrloa on May 02, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
Provably fair on crypto currency market? Yes, there is "dice" system and site is in 100% legit - from my experinced.
You don't call a game provably fair just because you feel and think so.

Provably fair means that the user can verify his bets and if I am not wrong or unless added recently, there is no page or system to verify our bets. Though everything been said, I have made some bets there and never felt any issues with the site but yes having fairness that can be verified is very important.

Yobit don't offer client seed for the bet that's why can't provide proof for their transparency on fairness. That's why playing on their dice game is very risky. There are a lot of dice game site that accepts alt coin like FJ, bitsler and directbet.
Only the fool one who keep playing dice there on yobit.
It is clearly the games has no provably fair system , the outcome really can be manipulated anytime as they wish.
Be a smart person , don't fall into something that too good to be true.

We cannot call them fool maybe other dudes out there are newbies and doesn't know their fairness thats why they keep playing at their and trying their luck to hit their asses. And also other guys playing out there are just collecting their free coins and rolled it on their dice site hoping to win some money at them i have friends doing that but sad to say he's not successfull on his doings out there.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: Mike Mayor on May 07, 2017, 11:58:23 PM
I also think it is provably fair because I won some time with 0.01btc bet and made it into 0.02btc on one lucky roll.
But I won't test my luck with rolling more than 5 times because one of those rolls can wipe your entire balance on the site so fast. As with any other dice site can do to you as well. :-[

How does one roll make any difference?

Yobit might be fair but it's. It probable. They do not need to be unfair and chest because their house edge is so high. Also if you go look right now you will see loads of bets for all kinds of currencies constantly being gambled. It's as much as a dice casino as it is an exchange and I'm not sure it's such a good thing. I would stay away and play elsewhere.


Title: Re: Is YoBit.net provably fair ?
Post by: numanoid on May 08, 2017, 04:10:23 AM
OMG you won 1 time and site is provably fair?
Please use google and type "WHAT IS PROVABLY FAIR"!

Lol, doesn't make sense he thought yobit is probably provably fair just only with 1 winning bet. Provably fair is not about winning or even loose, it's about how you can check the bets you have made (fairness system).


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