Title: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Dunster on April 26, 2013, 07:31:30 AM Hello,
Does anyone know where the By-laws are located for the Bitcoin Foundation? They are referred to here: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance Also, are there any sort of Articles available or filed anywhere which show the genesis of the foundation? It would be interesting to see how the foundation came into being and how the members appointed themselves. Thank you. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 26, 2013, 07:34:35 AM According to Charlie Shrem on Skype:
Quote [2/9/2013 4:44:25 AM] Charlie Shrem: The key of the foundation and why I started it is to Promote and protect Can't help you much more than that. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: wumpus on April 26, 2013, 07:39:06 AM Maybe this?
https://github.com/pmlaw/The-Bitcoin-Foundation-Legal-Repo/blob/master/Bylaws/Bylaws_of_The_Bitcoin_Foundation.md Gavin wanted to get paid, he whined and whined to Charlie about it, What's wrong with Gavin getting paid? He's the only developer that is getting paid by the foundation AFAIK.There is no one paying for the other open source work on bitcoin at all. Do you think a global currency should be fully dependent on random altruism of developers, with no one working on it full time? Giving Gavin a salary for working full time is a very good idea. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 26, 2013, 07:43:52 AM No offense to Charlie (I too started a very popular bitcoin foundation 2 years ago that he was a member in, so I can't say much), this is the part that I just can't get over no matter how hard I try:
Quote Industry Members (Platinum) 10,000BTC per annum Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Dunster on April 26, 2013, 07:48:10 AM Maybe this? https://github.com/pmlaw/The-Bitcoin-Foundation-Legal-Repo/blob/master/Bylaws/Bylaws_of_The_Bitcoin_Foundation.md Yes, this is it. So it is a non-profit US corporation organized in the District of Colombia (Washington D.C.) It is a Foundation in name only. What we have is a US Corporation. :o Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: wumpus on April 26, 2013, 08:01:14 AM There so much wrong in the foundation, from the pricing structure, the wall garden around there forums. To not letting you register anonymously, yet Satoshi is a founding member, so how does that work? It's not that the bitcoin foundation business plan is unique. You, too could start a bitcoin foundation, try to hire some of the core devs, start a forum and a marketing machine to build legitimacy (and maybe start in some other country than the US, or even use some other leading language than English).Don't forget these guys are taking a large risk! I think if it was really so lucrative as people would make it believe, and there was really so much resistance against the current bitcoin foundation, bitcoin foundation alternatives would be mushrooming all over the planet like altcoins. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: wumpus on April 26, 2013, 08:16:56 AM I am surprised you aren't up in arms either. You don't get paid, and I bet your just as good as Gavin. How they taking a risk? They all own bitcoin businesses, two of the board member's businesses complement each other. Gavin controls the protocol and how it is design. I'm not in arms because I am not connected to the Bitcoin Foundation. If they were willing to hire me part or full time for a competitive salary I would consider it, but I like my independence, and the idea of a dev team not completely employed by one organization. I'm sure there will be lots of lucrative Bitcoin gigs beyond the foundation as this thing grows. As of now I have a completely Bitcoin-unrelated job and do open source development for fun and ideological reasons.Quote You really can't make another foundation and start asking for 10,000BTC when you have no power. The foundation has power, behind it. Well the thing with power is that it's fluid. Just complaining about it won't get your far, but I'm sure there are people with "power" outside the immediate circles of the Bitcoin foundation that could just as well get some things done, if only they'd organize. It's not like the Bitcoin Foundation is a repressive regime that drones down everyone that poses a danger to their "monopoly" :)But you'd have to be serious about it. And for many people that's hard for something that is still as speculative as Bitcoin. This is also one of the things that prevent existing world power structures from barging in en-masse. Fear of reputation. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Dunster on April 26, 2013, 08:20:18 AM Running "The Foundation" out of a US corporation is not really in the spirit of Bitcoin.
This looks like an opportunity to declare an organization that exists on the Internet. Something ground breaking would be to have the organization exist outside of a geographical jurisdiction. (Perhaps the .bit namespace) I see documents like the following being useful for its Genesis: Articles of Organization Constitution Perhaps Satoshi can step forward to draft the first documents and sign it with his PGP signature and put it in the Blockchain so, We the Bitcoiners can declare independence from our owners and work to protect and grow the Blockchain. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Justin00 on April 26, 2013, 08:23:11 AM Is it still 10,000 ????
It was 10,000 at like $10... hope its still not 10,000 now price is $150 ? Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Come-from-Beyond on April 26, 2013, 09:30:42 AM Hello, Does anyone know where the By-laws are located for the Bitcoin Foundation? They are referred to here: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance Also, are there any sort of Articles available or filed anywhere which show the genesis of the foundation? It would be interesting to see how the foundation came into being and how the members appointed themselves. Thank you. They violated their own by-laws when did not paid for membership (I asked for transaction id and they were unable to provide it). It's a scam, not a foundation. Title: Re: Bitcoin Foundation By-Laws? Post by: Dunster on April 26, 2013, 09:36:25 AM If they are violating their own by-laws what else are they violating?
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