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Is it true, Altcoins price can be manipulate?
I see so many peoples in any Ann thread of altcoins ask for pump and dump. I just don't understand, is this how cryptocurrencies works? While forex trading market move by good news or bad news in around the world.
If Dev or big holders can easy manipulate the price of some altcoins, I think it's not interesting anymore.

At this point a lot of altcoins have tiny marketcaps and someone holding most of the supply can easily manipulate small markets,especially on the smaller exchanges.

thats is fact in this cryptocurrency world,, big player always play the game,,
but in forex trading this is happend too,, so not only in crypto world

Try to remember about the pump group, The price of altcoin is really cheap and possible to manipulate by those whale traders.
Altcoin is really cheap and some people with huge funds can pump it to fool another trader. You can call it a trap. And all of the pump is not 100% true in my opinion. I will suggest anyone to never get into the fake pump.

That's a fact on crypto trade.

Of course this happens a lot on forex and stock exchanges too but money involved are way more and also the regulation of the market force them to hide manipulation while on cryptos it is all open in the air.

Yes, price of altcoins can be manipulated, because the price of an altcoin is only determined by where we stand on the buy/sell book order. At the contrary to you, I think this is what is interesting, because it makes altcoins swingy, and make them tend to more activity, with many increases and decreases in the same day. This is of course better for traders.

Sometimes even devs pump their coin to make it popular.The fact is that each and every coin is pumped at some or other point of time.
Why only Altcoin even bitcoin is pumped in my opinion and manipulated by whales.

yeah,, thats a little different between forex and crypto trading,,
just hide and open in the air,,
in the 1st post of this thread,, you think it's not interesting anymore,, i like this quotes,, because i think this is about economics rule
so what can make this become more interesting just like in your mind ?

regards

Yes that's true some altcoins only has a few whale holders and some of them are being held by the coin devs themselves,so these people can manipulate their coin by continuously buying and selling their own coins,because the distribution is not equal and fair.

yes it can be , because as far as i know, there will be a developer in each coin, and each coin there will be people that has a share on it , or should I say a stock holder. in forex we can see the forecast of the coins whether it will be up or down. we should be a keen observer on trading coins we must view all the aspects so that when the coin is dump we already get our investment money on it.

Yes they can easily manipulate price from what I know of all cryptocurrencies can be manpulated in terms of price including Bitcoin. Without any government regulating or controlling it, it is up to the hands of whales and its developers on quickly they can do a sell off (or dump as what others know it) or do a hoarding/ buying up  (some call this the pump in which people who have large cash can buy all in the "ask side" of the table). Clearly price manipulation can be quickly done as it is dependent on who is holding the greater volume for selling and greater money for buying.

Well if you really did your research you can manipulate altcoins by pump and dump when the price goes up and when it also decreases, it is what cryptocurrency works to increase its value it needs people invest in their coin so that it will be known and increases its value over time. I think dev, or the big holders can't manipulate the price it just depends on if there's a lot of people put on an investment on it. So it depends on the market if it decrease or increases.  ;)

The whales are always in control to create dumps or pumps, which makes the altcoin price hard to predict. altcoin promises profits with a clever use of moment when prices rise or fall.

I think even normal traders can do the pump, if there are 10 member who have huge amount of capital they can manipulate 1 altcoin value,
and i think those whales are monitor the value of bitcoin only which is the money of coins.

like btc there are also bag holders that can manipulate the price of altcoins. They can create walls so the price will not exceed the price that they want and they can also dump the price or contrary. Doesn't all assets have manipulators?

altcoin price and forex are same
both can be manipulated by big player
so what is different ?

well it is a fact that we live by and people either learn to take advantage of it or stay away because they think it is "immoral"!
in any case, pump and dumps and manipulations are happening in altcoin market and mostly because it is a very small market that you can easily manipulate and it is populated with lots of newbies who will easily give their money to you themselves without much effort on the manipulators part.
we can see a lot of topic of people even looking for scammers! topics like "where are the pump groups" ;D

look at LTC... ,
Segwit turn on price +
Segwit turn off price -
they keep price close to limit to manipulate it :D
so you see how pool operators manipulate markets via mining in LTC

and whole directed "drama" Jihan here Jihan there happy ending...

sure everything here is manipulated even bitcoin, and you think that random altcoin are not? all the altcoin have stupid low volume anyone even a newbie can manipulate it, and it's true that those altcoin that sit at 1000 satoshi and lower are all pump and dump scam to steal money from new investors that don't know how this world work
i think some legit dev could in theory preventing this with his huge premine, and counter-manipulate the market to not make the coins look like a pump and dump

They can be manipulated for sure and you can see this happening every now and again, if you get in and out at the right time you can benefit but for a lot of people when they see a coin rising they may be fooled into investing and this is not good.

Yeah, easy to manipulate coins with lower marketcap.

I will forget about the question about this activity is immoral or not. The best thing I have learned with pump and dump condition is, so many people can easily get rich when they make a gambling at low price. And just for few hours , boom they have lot money to withdraw.

True but most of altcoin is controlled by single or few persons that can easily manipulate price and generate pump and dump as they pleased some can be predicted but others are made for easy scam and getting rich as you mentioned but for holders.

Majority of people knows story behind alts and they are not worried. Alts are there to stay and as human greed they will follow us, maybe they will only change their shape from time to time! But there is alweays hope that will apear one that will change the game.
I don't know why would be diffrent story be for Bitcoin?
Deep pockets could influence price very easy. ;D

Altcoins generally follow a trend until a pump or dump happens. You can profit off the pump and dump and any decent coin will recover from that with fair ease. It balances out unless it's a crap coin or people destroy it by dumping it right at the beginning after the ico especially.

You cant compare Forex trading and crypto trading because they do really differ on volumes and knowing about forex its so vast and marketcap is huge but still manipulation is still possible on it but it would be a hard thing for them to execute because once they have been caught they would go to jail and that forex works unlike on altcoin which you can easily manipulate price specially if you are a bag holder then pumping and dumping on coin would be easy but knowing the right time to ride is the hardest part.

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It's still interesting and profitable forex and cryptocurrency is very much different indeed,some coins are made for long term investment and some coins are made for pumps and dumps and it's up to you where you want to trade,for long term and short term but both of them can make you money .

Altcoins cannot be manipulated to a great extent compared to bitcoins but the market does go through small manipulations. We can see DASH and ETH having small fluctuations of $5-$10 almost every week but it depends mainly on the market state and not controversies or media articles. Huge pump or dump cannot happen often in case of altcoins unless the dev is responsible for the same.

Of course the price can be manipulated, if the price of bitcoin can be manipulated when so much more money moves in bitcoin then it  is logical to assume that altcoins are way easier to manipulate, but don’t worry it is not a permanent thing, the manipulation can only las so much.

Anything can be manipulated, altcoins especially so.

You don't need a bank's money for make a fake pump in the world of altcoins, especially altcoins with a low market cap this is the difference with Forex where institutional traders are the only ones who do this kind of movements.

Try to join a pump and jump group so you will know how the practice of pump and dump on alt-coins are being done mostly by the pro and some newbie traders. That's why some there are a lot of alt-coins, one reason is to get profit out of it as much as someone can then they died naturally or being de-listed.

It is manipulated in a way to ctrl the holders. if you wont manipulate the price how you gain interest or how will it grow. it's up to you if you want to invest on it or not. Probably not as easy as it sounds this is just how the crypto world works. not always that is stagnant or at the high peek.

I like most of the answers here, but you all seems to consider price manipulation from tiny key hole.

There is a simple answer to the question, and it is : Yes.

Which leads to annother question: How ?

The most basic price manipulation occures un the exchange, regardless of his size. The majority of exchanges manipulates the prices or creates fake orders. It is easy to do as they have access to their database. Just open the database and put random numbers, and you are done manipulating a coin's price.

No one really needs to go any further.

As far as I know altcoins price can be reallg manipulated because I beleive there is a team if pump and dump groups. Also a big whales of the coins, each altcoins has a developer. So, I do beleive  it is manipulated where done by pump and dump team.

Haven't you heard of buying your own coin.? Developers do that to increase the popularity of their coin and make a trap for the traders and bag holders. Some developers think about the investors and be truthful to investors otherwise most of them create altcoins to make money from money.

Sure.  A lot of cases happen around like this:

1. Have a big amount of BTC.
2. Search for a cheap altcoin (usually around 1k satoshi or lower.
3. Lets buy it up in small pieces. It will give you a great amount of that coin and redirect some attention to the project
4. Lot of people will think that something big is coming and it is worth buying
5. After it reaches a high price, dump it back slowly.
6. ???
7. Profit :D

It is easy to manipulate coins with large marketcap if you are a big whale. The reality is that even bitcoin is not immune to price manipulation.
Don't be naive to think that altcoin markets are healthy and 100% organic, they were created to be manipulated.
There is no economy market which is 100% resistance to manipulation, fiat based or crypto based, it doesn't matter.

You didn't mention that this coin should be on Yobit, wait for them until they turn the wallet into maintenence mode, then expect a big pump.

Every market can be manipulated. Banks manipulated the forex markets and got caught. Bitcoin whales manipulate the market. There's no exception. The key here is to know when it's manipulated.

If even the Bitcoin price can be manipulated, I see no reason why it would not occur with alts, which has less liquidity and worse distribution.

Here is question HOW much they are manipulated : ) because all they are.
Now even worst shitcoin get a lot of $$$ in whales buys hire devs release feature and DUUUMP on idiots.
Then whales with developers are moving to new better project.
SDC / GAME / NXT everywhere the same "we want create better system this time, tht was impossible with old one"

In reality only impossible thing was getting fresh 10m $ of ICO funding for same results HAHA

Low cap coins are easier to manipulate. Development teams are also sometimes involved as well.

If the coins are premine or some whales invested on ico or miners mined a lot of those coins,they can easily manipulate the price so they can pump and dump coins they are holding,so it's good for a coin if there are a lot of people holding instead of only a few ones.

There's no such thing as manipulation,  just market price people can and are willing to pay, buy and sell at, [unless an exchange is faking its data]

i am sure that altcoin can be manipulate as we can see in the market that suddenly the price of one coins is jump too high and its stable for a while and then the price is suddenly back into the normal price. there are people that can do it with big of fund so they can make the price is increase in a second.

the answer is yes, crypto currencies and forex has a different factor to determine the price, since crypto currencies is decentralized so the one that determine the price is the market and alt coin with a low transaction rate can be easily manipulated, that is why some people don't want to invest their coin in alt coin and this make investing in alt coin become more risky, coin with a high transaction rate will be harder to manipulate

Ever heard of something called dash who's price increased from 20$ to 100$ in just a week and right after 1-2 weeks the price fell back to 50$. Eth who's price was 10$ suddenly imcreased on one fine day to 44$. Ltc who rised for 3.62$ to 14$ in 2 weeks. The reason all this can happen is because altcoins have a short marketcap compared to bitcoin so manipulation is easier when compared to btc.

Yes, altcoins can be manipulated but which altcoins? There are many altcoins flooding out there and many of them can be manipulated whether by investor who can control majority of the coins, also the devs can manipulate and the pump and dump group :)

This is what I think, altcoins price can be manipulated by the developer of the coin or the big stake holder of the coins. When I learn trading I observed the dump and pump of the coins I invest in and Im curious who are the groups behind of this worked. So, Ive learned there are dump/pump group which we will not know when if would be happen.

And the final questions about this is, do you agree at all with this pump and dump activities? Wether you are benefited or harmed?
As I see from the members post, everyone said like everything is okay with this condition

Look up Darkcoin before it became Dash perfect example of Manipulation at its finest

Agree?! For the sake of the uninitiated, I don't. But it can't be helped, unless you take away free markets. Even with extreme oversight, manipulators will always find ways.

Lesson for noobs, study markets, market dynamics, structures and all first before risking any serious capital. Knowledge is key.

My point exactly, if a popular product is in the hands of a person or only a group of people then they alone can think of a price for all the customers and sell it at the price which they want rather than the value of that product. Same is happening in case of altcoins too.

yes , i think ,, i think price can be manipulate with two reason ,, one , from devepoler self . and two from people or grup have a lot of money with buy more coin ..

You are correct, but someone trying to pull such a move must be careful of not trapping himself in the maneuver, if you buy a lot of an altcoin to make the price grow but everyone wants to get out you are going to be the one that holds the bag at the end.

Sure why not? If the hugest markets in the world like Forex and Stocks are manipulated, I don't see why altcoins can't and wouldn't already be. In fact, it would be so much easier to manipulate these small markets compared to the global markets or even something like BTC at $20b market cap.

Yes the altcoins price can be manipulate especially the new altcoins on announcement section,
because it is new coins and needs pump and dump to take investors (traders) but for the altcoins that has large capitalization of price, it will be difficult because of the developers of coins and bag holder must has large of money to di it, the old altcoins move the the price by good news or bad news too.

It depends what we mean by manipulation, since something like stocks also move with good and bad news, so it is not surprising that something like crypto currencies are affected by such news in fact is the most natural thing in the world.

They can be manipulated just like any market. JP Morgan made his bones cornering the silver market once upon a time, altcoins are just the latest and greatest variant on one of the oldest games in finance.

JP Morgan was a financial genius he tried to corner almost any market in which he was in, he was successful in the railroads but failed miserably when he tried to do the same in the sea and the sinking of the RMS Titanic proved to be fatal to his business at the sea.

Yes, alt coins can be manipulated, specially if their daily volume is small. That is why you see sometimes a coin jumping 100%-500% in a day.

How are these returns not interesting?
It might be a little late to join the party but in general there's nothing wrong with cashing in on a pump.

Forex works the same way just with smaller swings and the manipulator is the central bank not a random dude with some btc holdings somewhere but that actually doesn't make a difference in the end of the day.
Stockmarkets are pumps and dumps too; just on a multi-decade window instead of fast window like in alts.
I think it's rather intersting for its humongous volatility.

There isn't a single market in the whole world that's not pump and dump to some degree. They all are. Big holders always want to drive up the price; that's just human nature.


Your ordinary trading can affect the market too so depending on your definition of manipulation your ordinary trading could be called manipulation too. Let's say you own 1000$ of a very small coin and you sell in one go. Price drops for 10% because of your selling. Have you manipulated the price now?

If you want to make money on pumps you need to enter early and exit in profit. Don't join late!
 
Morality has no place in trading, at least not directly in the action. Markets are battlefields, once you join the battle you can't think about morality. Just avoid unethical coins, there is a lot of them. But trading a pump on a ethically good coin i see nothing wrong with that. Just don't support scams, support the good coins instead.
Price goes up a lot and comes down a lot; that's normal. Get used to it and avoid holding the bag when it comes down.

That being said; altcoins still react to news of course. Not always but in some situations they do. Good and bad news can still affect the market.

Actually rigging a market can not be done 100% all the time unless the whale owns 99% of the coins. Manipulation of a market can cost a whale big money too; it's not without risk for them.

If the bitcoin price is manipulated it is clearly an offense, because the price does not match the market price

I think people should be left alone to buy or sell anything that they like and not influenced by others.. too many trolls here, spoiling the market.. Don't feel like even looking at certain coins, all because of the trolls ..very sad.

Yea, especially the new altcoins and small volume transaction daily, but for the old altcoins that has large of marketcap
will be difficult for be manipulated by bagholder,
the altcoins that can be manipulated are dangerous for investments into there, it can be scam altcoins will be good for choose
the altcoins that has large capitalization marketcap.

Small volume transaction daily or even the small market cap are the only basis in able to manipulate the price. As long as the coin has a lot supporter then it was very hard to manipulate it unless you hold 50% of the total supply during the ICO then you can able to manipulate it but if you just acquired a piece of it then dump it, There is no chance to manipulate the price since there a lot of traders watching for the price behavior of all coins.

Have anyone aleready assisted to the listing of a new coin in an exchange ?
Haven't you noticed the first orders ? They are really huge and probably fake. This is the first manipulation made by the exchanges, why don't they simply release the new pair and let the users sell and buy at the price they want ?

Then you have the other manipulations, and it doesn't requires any kind of DDOS to be done, simple database manipulation is enough to pump or dump a coin.

I think we have to make some distinctions here. First, any coin price can be manipulated on some specific trading website. For example, ethereum went etremely down on Kraken a couple of days ago, whereas the price on coinmarketcap was $90+. Let's call it a local manipulation and leave it aside, for I think what the OP was asking about is a global manipulation. The latter means that the price really changes on coinmarketcap, poloniex and other trustworthy websites. These manipulations can be performed basically by anyone having nice sum of money if the coin's marketcap is really small (so, one can just buy the hell lot of coins or vice versa thus creating an illusion that the demand is really growing or going down). Another thing is that some alts are sort of backed up by big companies. For example, bts. I think eth can also be manipulated a bit. So, this is how it gets done.
But as the coin becomes more popular and marketcap grows, it becomes nearly impossible to control the price even if it was possible before.
So, bitcoin IMO is nowadays not under anyone's specific control whereas we can never be sure of same things about altcoins.

Are some exchanges more prone to being manipulated than others? As a newbie I have burned my fingers on Yobit and I would not like to repeat the experience.

I strongly disagree that Altcoins price can be manipulate, because fluctuation of coins in the market were depend to the increasing and decreasing of other Altcoins.

The number one manipulator of Altcoins price are exchanges, not long time ago you remember when CHinese exchanges were manipulating Bitcoin prices, so if they can do that successfully with Bitcoin with huge liquidity, it takes nothing to move the price of thin market like Altcoins

new altcoin aren't manipulated thye have no value, and they are simply pumped, because investors at the beginning need to see where there is the bottom with miners dumping, so they let the dump happen and then try to put a wall, it's different than a coin which is truly manipulated

But that is exactly what manipulation means if the price does not move organically and instead the price moves because of the tactics of whoever that tries to get some advantage out of it then it means the coins is being manipulated.

Yes they can the one who hold a lot of volume of a certain coin can manipulate the price of the coin by putting or offering a small amount with a high price to make them see that the price is already go up in the sell orders and the buy orders will also go up.

I think it depends on its market scale and the distribution system.

hoe can it be manipulated if investors don't know the real value? i don't think you can view both thing in the same category, look different to me, real manipulation appear when you see big wall on both side, which emean that someone want you to dump in that range, but i never see this with a new coins, i just see miners dumping to have quick profit, and investors buying blindly

Altcoin can be manipulated since the supply are limited and the majority of Altcoins are launching crowdfunding in able for them to operate the project so it means it requires investors for funds. And most of the Major investors holds a volume of coin that sufficient to manipulate price.

Manipulation exists even in fiat and forex trading talk more of a human system that has just been created of recent. If we are to talk about Ann thread, Ann thread was created to get a lot of follower in other to pumb coin prices. If you really want to make it big now then the best thing to do is to find out when pump is about to happen in a particular altcoin and buy early.

I think the fact that altcoins can be manipulated makes them even more interesting, and it is very profitable for traders. You must be careful about pump traps, though, but if you have a lot of free time you can spend it monitoring the price every minute and sell all of your alts at a perfect time, increasing greatly your primary investment and you can never accomplish something like that with bitcoins.

I think no, because if the price of other altcoins were manipulated they had a tendency that the balance of all other altcoins were broken in the market. They had a possibility that some other altcoins were die due to not fair value of other altcoins.

Yes, I agree with you the balance of currency in the market was destroy if they can manipulate anyone of other altcoins. Also I think they can't manipulate it because of they want, maybe higher position like government can only do that.

Already being done

The price of altcoin is really possible to manipulated. Have you ever seen about a short pump to fool the newbies by the pump group? Looks it can be a real evidence, it's easy to manipulate the price of altcoin with fake hype and make more people get FOMO for its coin and try to buy more and more.

Usually, the pumper already stayed on the top to dump the coin.

Since we see more investors coming into bitcoin it is not possible to manipulate the price of bitcoin like we used to see and so these pump groups have targeted alt coin and so is the reason we are seeing some big rallies in the alt coin sector and we could see more price manipulation in the future and make the most in these sort of markets.

for me it can be manipulated it is like stocks hoarding by some stocks holder or businessman they hoard the stocks so the demand is high and the price will go up because of the limited stock these is the time they release the stocks with the higher price. 

Easily if you have enough money. If you have the 24 hour volume of a coin, you can just buy coins with all that money and the price will rise a lot! But you might not sell at that high price, because there will be no buyers, but it can definitely be manipulated.

If you wanted to crash a specific coin, you could SPEND money and buy as much coins as you can and then sell them at a very low rate, so it would fluctuate a lot. You would lose money, but you would manipulate the price.

The higher the market cap, the more you need to actually manipulate the price though. So for example, you won't easily manipulate Bitcoin. But you will easily manipulate a coin that is ranked 200+ on coinmarketcap, due to low volume.

I can't decide if lack of regulations are good or bad for Crypto.. If you take an example few rich whales can do whatever they like, every kind of forbidden actions and they have full control. If you are lucky you can get small share for yourself. On the other way if government creates regulations they will open door for Wall St. takeover. :'(
What do we really want?

Altcoins are manipulated all the time. Whales dump the coins and it causes panic and bots to sell. Pricr goes down by like 15percent and whales buy back in. Repeat 3 times a day. Thats what they do.

Agree with you sir, really I am. Today I trade on local altcoin broker and I see same with your post. The price never same with market even sometimes very high or low gap. Easy way manipulate the market with supply and demand, just hold extra fund and play with the small trader. I try to cheat them with a small fund, sometimes win sometimes loss. I think that's a robotic alt to manipulate price but I never give up to cheat with them just for fun. This post makes me happy, thank you very much.

Any body with a few thousand bucks can manipulate a coin price.  Look at round the last few days.

Well bitcoin price can be manipulated too, its not just altcoins. The main difference is alts have lower volume so require less to manipulate plus a lot of eager idiots throwing money at anything in hopes to hitting the jackpot.

All Altcoins can be manipulated.The whole market is controlled by only few people and institutions.They can fall the price or rise it at will.
I have been observing price of some Altcoins since last months and I have noticed some coins are increasing rapidly without any reason while others falling again without any reason and after some days this cycle changed and now falling coins are rising and vice versa.

Yes, I think there is someone who can manipulate altcoin prices, I think it is very detrimental to someone who does not understand well about trading.

I think it can be manipulate. Big whales can buy huge amount of specific altcoin and dump it when its done pumping. LTC is a good example. Most of LTC holders are chinese. They can easily pump and dump it whenever they want. I analyzes things first before jumping in. I dont jump on peak which is dangerous.

You made good example cuz its true especially on litecoin. On some others there were also talks but nothing that can be said it 100% true like in LTC case.
Most think if they follow volume they will make profit, that is true but is some cases you can sell them and then you are busted.

that is the saddest part in this cryptocurrency world. A powerful one can control things that they want. Im just hoping that they will be fair on it.

I'm not sure about the term "manipulated" but I'm sure whales are playing the pump and dump of altcoin trading.

See you should know that altcoins marketcap is small when compared to bitcoin.So big whales can easily manipulate altcoin market with their coins.But if you know when to enter and exit during pump and dump,then you can make huge profits.Thats why altcoin trading is not a children's game.It needs more skills to survive.

Yes, I agree with you, if the big players are able to play the price of some altcoin, then this possibility is already planned, then it is unlikely the coin will be dumped, and this is not interesting anymore.

there's a distinguish between PND and good quality coins and mostly whales are the ones  who earned a lot, since they now how to work with crypto they can easily move the price pumped and dumped coins are just around the corner and easy to manipulate unlike good quality project that have good plan and progress.

Thats not always the case because there are whales do jump up on good potential coins and testing out its capability when a certain dump happen into it.Some or most coins after a huge dump do have a hard time on recovering up or completely dumped and dead all the way but there are coins who stood up still which even whales cant easily killed it and when that happen they do really buy up again when they saw that coin do still have the chance on pumping again its price which they saw as an opportunity again.

To add to it some altcoins are just really made to be manipulated. Starting from their ICOs the devs are already loaded with their own Altcoin preparing for it to be dump when the price looks goods to them in which they are also the reason why it is increasing at that time. Its not only a one case scenario as a lot of Altcoins are doing a pump and dump technique in which they are leaving the investors behind.

Totally agreed. You're pointing out an important thing that everybody needs to pay attention. Altcoin prices can be manipulated by the groups having big funds. This is called pump and dump, you know.

True, thats why we can able to see there are lots of dead or shitcoins on crpyto world because of this kind of scheme on most coin makers in the market which they do just plan to make their own money on their pockets from their investors money.Its the sad reality thats why we should always seek for transparency of a certain project before we decide to put money on it.

For sure they can do it and I just don't have an idea on what specific alt coin they are going to play. But I know there is a market for those whales and possibility that they will also conquer the alt coin market. We saw on how some alt coins are moving faster and that's an indicator that the price of an alt coin can pump because of them.

I think they even have a group here and an announcement thread in the forum too.  Though I have no idea what are they capable of.  I think this group try to pump and dump coins to get a huge profit from unsuspecting traders.  With this all coins that are trading can be subject to manipulationg a.k.a pump and dump activities.

I don't have an idea if they are going to show or there is an exposed thread about it. For sure they have chat group, maybe in skype or in telegram or somewhere else where everyone of their members can get a proper signal on when they are going to manipulate or do volumes of buy for a certain alt coin and as well as sell.

I don't think so if the altcoins were manipulate. But in my opinion I think it's not because if the altcoins were manipulated the trust of users to altcoins were vanishing due to unfair treatment.

I wonder why you do not think altcoins were manipulated.  They are manipulated, even bitcoins are manipulated.  Probably you have not traded deeply yet in altcoins but if you do, you will change the way you view things about altcoins.  So I guess my advice is venture in altcoin trading to know more about cyrptocurrency manipulation.

Profits to be made. Absolutely most of the time altcoins are manipulated whale action. Ride waves with whales, just don't get left behind or get feasted by sharks.