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Title: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Alexzap on April 25, 2017, 10:21:04 AM
An armed gang of about 50 persons robbed the office of private collection firms. Explosive was used, sniper rifles and machine guns. To divert attention was also attacked a police station and burned several cars. According to preliminary data, stolen about $ 40 million.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: usefrees on April 25, 2017, 11:33:33 AM
Well thought out the plan of robbery, just like in the movie. They will be lucky if they do not find them and do not catch them.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Xester on April 25, 2017, 12:05:42 PM
An armed gang of about 50 persons robbed the office of private collection firms. Explosive was used, sniper rifles and machine guns. To divert attention was also attacked a police station and burned several cars. According to preliminary data, stolen about $ 40 million.

It was probably not the robbers but the terrorist who are responsible to this. This is one shot and two hits, they have well planned everything and instead of just doing terrorism they also conducted robbery. If they will only conduct terrorism they will lost some people and spent a huge amount of resources in order to be successful, but if they will include robbery they will not only caused terror but also replenished their resources.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Forester618 on April 25, 2017, 12:17:13 PM
An armed gang of about 50 persons robbed the office of private collection firms. Explosive was used, sniper rifles and machine guns. To divert attention was also attacked a police station and burned several cars. According to preliminary data, stolen about $ 40 million.

It was probably not the robbers but the terrorist who are responsible to this. This is one shot and two hits, they have well planned everything and instead of just doing terrorism they also conducted robbery. If they will only conduct terrorism they will lost some people and spent a huge amount of resources in order to be successful, but if they will include robbery they will not only caused terror but also replenished their resources.
It seems to me that such cases must provoke traders to pay more attention to the use in their activity of electronic money. The more the crisis continues the more robberies. Maybe due to this increase the demand for bitcoin?


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Mometaskers on April 25, 2017, 01:17:24 PM
Wow, that was just like some action movie. If they got 40 million, guess it was worth the effort though they probably won't be getting a lot for each person if they would even-share the lot afterwards. Considering they spent money for all those firearms and explosives, they'd be getting less than $800,000 each.

An armed gang of about 50 persons robbed the office of private collection firms. Explosive was used, sniper rifles and machine guns. To divert attention was also attacked a police station and burned several cars. According to preliminary data, stolen about $ 40 million.

It was probably not the robbers but the terrorist who are responsible to this. This is one shot and two hits, they have well planned everything and instead of just doing terrorism they also conducted robbery. If they will only conduct terrorism they will lost some people and spent a huge amount of resources in order to be successful, but if they will include robbery they will not only caused terror but also replenished their resources.

Wait, Paraguay have terrorists?! Never heard of that before. I thought it was the more northern countries that have terrorism problems from rebels and drug syndicates.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 25, 2017, 06:16:15 PM
Wait, Paraguay have terrorists?! Never heard of that before. I thought it was the more northern countries that have terrorism problems from rebels and drug syndicates.

Most of the Latin American nations are effected by either left-wing or right-wing extremism, and Paraguay is no exception. You might have heard about the FARC and ELN of Colombia and the Shining Path of Peru. But the extremist groups in Paraguay are not that well known and are composed of only a few dozen lightly armed militants. The most well known group in Paraguay is the Ejército del Pueblo Paraguayo or the EPP. They are allied to the FARC of Colombia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguayan_People%27s_Army_insurgency


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Discovery 17 on April 25, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
Wait, Paraguay have terrorists?! Never heard of that before. I thought it was the more northern countries that have terrorism problems from rebels and drug syndicates.

Most of the Latin American nations are effected by either left-wing or right-wing extremism, and Paraguay is no exception. You might have heard about the FARC and ELN of Colombia and the Shining Path of Peru. But the extremist groups in Paraguay are not that well known and are composed of only a few dozen lightly armed militants. The most well known group in Paraguay is the Ejército del Pueblo Paraguayo or the EPP. They are allied to the FARC of Colombia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguayan_People%27s_Army_insurgency
I heard that in this attack suspected gang from Brazil. Don't know true or not but in any case, criminals are everywhere. It is not terrorism. There are no political goals, and therefore it is banal gangsterism.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Aikonio on April 25, 2017, 06:59:33 PM
Too many people participated in the robbery, they can not share the stolen goods and will have to remove some of the participants if greed takes over.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: PancherBitCoin on April 25, 2017, 07:08:07 PM
Wait, Paraguay have terrorists?! Never heard of that before. I thought it was the more northern countries that have terrorism problems from rebels and drug syndicates.

Most of the Latin American nations are effected by either left-wing or right-wing extremism, and Paraguay is no exception. You might have heard about the FARC and ELN of Colombia and the Shining Path of Peru. But the extremist groups in Paraguay are not that well known and are composed of only a few dozen lightly armed militants. The most well known group in Paraguay is the Ejército del Pueblo Paraguayo or the EPP. They are allied to the FARC of Colombia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguayan_People%27s_Army_insurgency
I heard that in this attack suspected gang from Brazil. Don't know true or not but in any case, criminals are everywhere. It is not terrorism. There are no political goals, and therefore it is banal gangsterism.
Whatever it is called, this is a crime and at the same time quite bold. Such
a scales of the special operation the local police has never conducted.
Apparently bandits in general have lost their fear, robbing without
embarrassment with the use of serious small arms.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: frankbit on April 25, 2017, 07:09:20 PM
Too many people participated in the robbery, they can not share the stolen goods and will have to remove some of the participants if greed takes over.
As they will not be able to share? They stole a huge sum. There's almost a million for each member of the gang. Such a sum they can easily share.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Sithara007 on April 26, 2017, 05:20:25 AM
Too many people participated in the robbery, they can not share the stolen goods and will have to remove some of the participants if greed takes over.
As they will not be able to share? They stole a huge sum. There's almost a million for each member of the gang. Such a sum they can easily share.

They might have already shared the loot, and dispersed to various countries, such as Brazil and Bolivia. The Brazilian region bordering Paraguay is mostly pantanal (swampland) and these people can easily remain hidden for many years.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Marcus_2017 on April 26, 2017, 01:42:23 PM
Too many people participated in the robbery, they can not share the stolen goods and will have to remove some of the participants if greed takes over.
As they will not be able to share? They stole a huge sum. There's almost a million for each member of the gang. Such a sum they can easily share.

They might have already shared the loot, and dispersed to various countries, such as Brazil and Bolivia. The Brazilian region bordering Paraguay is mostly pantanal (swampland) and these people can easily remain hidden for many years.
I certainly do not support such methods, but the money people stole a lot. To Paraguay and Brazil, it is generally the cosmic jackpot. Although I doubt with that kind of cash they can go unnoticed. They will still spend the money and it will be noticeable.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: OmegaStarScream on April 26, 2017, 02:17:17 PM
The amount of participants is definitely big and could lead them to be caught eventually. I honestly don't understand many people could know and mostly trust each other. It could only take a few of them to get caught until the whole group goes down.

As an updated, It seems like eight people were arrested Tuesday in the Brazilian state of Parana + 1 killed, 4 injured in Paraguay; 3 suspects killed in Brazil.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Kemarit on April 26, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
An armed gang of about 50 persons robbed the office of private collection firms. Explosive was used, sniper rifles and machine guns. To divert attention was also attacked a police station and burned several cars. According to preliminary data, stolen about $ 40 million.

I think this is not a terrorist attack but rather a group of gang related to drug organization. They stole money to put more funds in the organization. Also I don't think the locals did this, maybe drug organization around Paraguay. This is a organized heist including diversionary tactics used. I hope that government of Paraguay can arrest or maybe killed these criminals. This act really shows that the drug organization are really desperate now since crackdown was already put into action in the last few years.

On a brighter note, this could turn into a Hollywood B-action movie. Life imitating art.  ;D


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: craked5 on April 26, 2017, 03:49:05 PM
An armed gang of about 50 persons robbed the office of private collection firms. Explosive was used, sniper rifles and machine guns. To divert attention was also attacked a police station and burned several cars. According to preliminary data, stolen about $ 40 million.

It was probably not the robbers but the terrorist who are responsible to this. This is one shot and two hits, they have well planned everything and instead of just doing terrorism they also conducted robbery. If they will only conduct terrorism they will lost some people and spent a huge amount of resources in order to be successful, but if they will include robbery they will not only caused terror but also replenished their resources.

Difference between standard criminals and terrorists is just what you call them...

It's just a useless label. You could also call them soldiers. But no, they're terrorists, we have soldiers, that's hw it works xD


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: btvlGainer on April 26, 2017, 03:52:35 PM
Too many people participated in the robbery, they can not share the stolen goods and will have to remove some of the participants if greed takes over.
As they will not be able to share? They stole a huge sum. There's almost a million for each member of the gang. Such a sum they can easily share.

They might have already shared the loot, and dispersed to various countries, such as Brazil and Bolivia. The Brazilian region bordering Paraguay is mostly pantanal (swampland) and these people can easily remain hidden for many years.
I certainly do not support such methods, but the money people stole a lot. To Paraguay and Brazil, it is generally the cosmic jackpot. Although I doubt with that kind of cash they can go unnoticed. They will still spend the money and it will be noticeable.

It is important here not to spend too much money at once, because they will be caught. If they can control their spending, they will be able to live free with the jack-sweat.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Mometaskers on April 26, 2017, 04:15:54 PM
Wait, Paraguay have terrorists?! Never heard of that before. I thought it was the more northern countries that have terrorism problems from rebels and drug syndicates.

Most of the Latin American nations are effected by either left-wing or right-wing extremism, and Paraguay is no exception. You might have heard about the FARC and ELN of Colombia and the Shining Path of Peru. But the extremist groups in Paraguay are not that well known and are composed of only a few dozen lightly armed militants. The most well known group in Paraguay is the Ejército del Pueblo Paraguayo or the EPP. They are allied to the FARC of Colombia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraguayan_People%27s_Army_insurgency

Are those groups listed as terrorists or are they simply treated as rebels and secessionists? I'm not sure but I believe that would make a difference on how the country can deal with them. FARC I heard before in the news but have no idea what their political agenda is. Sigh, seems very few country don't have this problem. Even us still have Communist rebels.

Oh well, at least they don't have Islamists that love beheading like we do here in our country. Yeah I know, Communist and Islamist rebels, hard to make a choice which is the worse one.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: v1ryspro on April 26, 2017, 04:20:16 PM
On the one hand, they made a good idea not to work all day. Now if they invest, they can provide themselves with a comfortable old age.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: DeanShow on April 26, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
On the one hand, they made a good idea not to work all day. Now if they invest, they can provide themselves with a comfortable old age.
Any investment in a poor country? As soon as they'll pull their money immediately arrested. On the contrary they need to fall to the bottom and not stick out.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: peter0425 on April 26, 2017, 05:07:08 PM
I don't know if you can consider it the robbery of the century, but damn its one load of money they stole. And whoever stole it like terrorist or group of criminals, are now enjoying a good life sipping wine in a beach far away from the reach of Paraguay police. I don't think they will invest the money they stole. They will just spend it as long as they can and enjoy life.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: canine2017 on April 26, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
And for me anyway, as they have the money to spend. If during the robbery no one was hurt I would still somehow believed that this was a robbery well planned. But the robbery was a human sacrifice. After that, they all deserve to die and I'll pray to them detained.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Gilf on April 26, 2017, 06:51:28 PM
And for me anyway, as they have the money to spend. If during the robbery no one was hurt I would still somehow believed that this was a robbery well planned. But the robbery was a human sacrifice. After that, they all deserve to die and I'll pray to them detained.

I agree. Robbery is not a good way to earn money. I believe that money should be earned honestly, even if it is heavy, but in this way we value money and time.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Boobies00 on April 26, 2017, 07:31:12 PM
The crime of the century happened on 9/11/01. When the gold that was in vaults under the WTC was stolen.. 166 billion!!

https://911justicehalifax.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/wtc-9-11-biggest-gold-heist-in-history/



Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Sithara007 on April 27, 2017, 03:56:44 AM
The crime of the century happened on 9/11/01. When the gold that was in vaults under the WTC was stolen.. 166 billion!!

https://911justicehalifax.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/wtc-9-11-biggest-gold-heist-in-history/

Don't post rubbish here. Such an incident never occurred. Please stop inserting all these links to unreliable third party blogs. As per the officials, the total amount of bullion stored beneath the WTC amounted to less than $1 billion. And these bars and coins were never stolen.


Title: Re: In Paraguay there was a robbery of the century.
Post by: Forester618 on April 27, 2017, 08:35:46 PM
And for me anyway, as they have the money to spend. If during the robbery no one was hurt I would still somehow believed that this was a robbery well planned. But the robbery was a human sacrifice. After that, they all deserve to die and I'll pray to them detained.

I agree. Robbery is not a good way to earn money. I believe that money should be earned honestly, even if it is heavy, but in this way we value money and time.
The problem is that honestly cannot make that kind of money. Remember as they say "don't ask me how I made my first million". In order to earn you need to break the law. I don't mind when people oppose themselves to the state, but when they Rob people or commit murder is unacceptable.