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Title: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: VentMine on April 26, 2017, 05:03:53 AM
Question says it all. I'm curious to see what the mining community here thinks about this whole issue.


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: ImHash on April 26, 2017, 05:46:38 AM
It's in the hardware and requires a software as well on top the miner I'm right so far? lets imagine that the imaginary Zeus came to earth and provided you with unlimited energy source using lightning bolt :D and you started to buy as many ASICs as possible and started mining and having 100% pure profit after 4 months that it will take to ROI the money that you bought ASICs with it, yes 4 months is the time to ROI in bitcoin mining.

Are the rest of the community ought to destroy you for that? all they did was not telling people that S9s could run with 20% more efficiency than all other mining machines currently worldwide.
Note that was the case before I found out that ASICboost users were hashing the blocks differently than non-ASICboost users and that's my fellow bitcoiners is the definition of hack and hostile attacks on the network, those empty blocks ring any bells? miners are the only responsible party to confirm our transactions by including them in every block they are mining and any miner not doing that and goes by mining empty blocks means that they don't give a f*ck about users and about the stability of the network and just want their profit by attack/ hacking into the mining process.


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: -ck on April 26, 2017, 05:59:34 AM
You left out: Yes - if it restricts what improvements we can make to bitcoin. And by that I'm not referring to segwit (although that's the one everyone's talking about); there are a lot of other features planned that will break asicboost.


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: buwaytress on April 26, 2017, 06:16:40 AM
Speaking of empty blocks, I recently discovered pools like OneHash (if I recall correctly) mining a number of empty (single transaction) blocks and wondered in fact if this eas deliberate. Why wouldn't they want to include txs in their blocks? Don't they make extra from the fees or does it somehow add to their difficulty?


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: -ck on April 26, 2017, 06:29:56 AM
Speaking of empty blocks, I recently discovered pools like OneHash (if I recall correctly) mining a number of empty (single transaction) blocks and wondered in fact if this eas deliberate. Why wouldn't they want to include txs in their blocks? Don't they make extra from the fees or does it somehow add to their difficulty?
Been discussed ad nauseam. It's not related to asicboost (though theoretically covert asicboost might need to occasionally make empty blocks):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085800.0


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: buwaytress on April 26, 2017, 11:04:38 AM
Been discussed ad nauseam. It's not related to asicboost (though theoretically covert asicboost might need to occasionally make empty blocks):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1085800.0

Thanks for the link... I've spent months as a longstanding newbie and don't recall seeing any discussion like that. Happy to be shown the way. Thanks!


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: BenRickert on August 21, 2017, 12:24:13 AM
For anyone to believe that it is on the units but "NOT" being used, is pure lunacy. Since when has  integrity in humanity overridden greed?? Ever??


Title: Re: Poll: Are you in favor of patching covertASICBOOST?
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 21, 2017, 05:06:04 PM
For anyone to believe that it is on the units but "NOT" being used, is pure lunacy. Since when has  integrity in humanity overridden greed?? Ever??
No, to continue thinking that it ever *was* much less still is being used outside of Testnet with ZERO verifiable proof of it is the lunacy and is simply an opinion. Since Segwit now makes it an entirely moot point it is even more irrelevant.