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Title: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: silversmith on April 26, 2017, 09:53:39 PM
"Smart Contracts" will never amount to anything. It's just a phrase people throw around to create excitement to pump up the value of worthless coins. It's all pie in the sky. When people finally come out of the "ether", 'pun intended,' they will realize it was all smoke and mirrors.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: mining1 on April 26, 2017, 10:16:22 PM
K.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: g___ on April 26, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
"Smart Contracts" will never amount to anything. It's just a phrase people throw around to create excitement to pump up the value of worthless coins. It's all pie in the sky. When people finally come out of the "ether", 'pun intended,' they will realize it was all smoke and mirrors.

FUCK, really? how can we tell microsoft, jp morgan, intel, tesla, netflix, tesco, uber, sirius xm, viacom, and apple...?


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: DrkLvr_ on April 26, 2017, 11:09:57 PM
OP is right. The stupidity and hype around "Ether" bullshit is unbelievable.. but i guess crypto people will pretty much believe anything.. that's why they support totally unscaleable premined stupidity like "Ether" along with all these bullshit ethereum tokens which will also never amount to anything


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: benthach on April 27, 2017, 05:04:46 AM
"Smart Contracts" will never amount to anything. It's just a phrase people throw around to create excitement to pump up the value of worthless coins. It's all pie in the sky. When people finally come out of the "ether", 'pun intended,' they will realize it was all smoke and mirrors.

it is true, and the smart con tract is created by Nick Szabo, Google Nick Szabo but got scam by butterin.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: wumBowo on April 27, 2017, 05:11:45 AM
what is actually smart contract means ?


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: benthach on April 27, 2017, 05:13:31 AM
"Smart Contracts" will never amount to anything. It's just a phrase people throw around to create excitement to pump up the value of worthless coins. It's all pie in the sky. When people finally come out of the "ether", 'pun intended,' they will realize it was all smoke and mirrors.

FUCK, really? how can we tell microsoft, jp morgan, intel, tesla, netflix, tesco, uber, sirius xm, viacom, and apple...?

How can you tell IBM, R3 or the DAO using etherium and now abundant or just f@ck up with it and hundred of millions being wasted? chance the employees of companies above being paid by this guy,
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/20/investing/mike-novogratz-bets-big-on-bitcoin-ether-blockchain/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fmoney_latest+%28CNNMoney%3A+Latest+News%29

He invested tens and hundreds of millions in this scam etherium at around $1. Just imagine when he old or sick and decide to dump, it would be worth nothing.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: benthach on April 27, 2017, 05:19:41 AM
what is actually smart contract means ?

It is a control and release mechanism, any coin can do this, example bitbay already able to code this in his working wallet, but this scam etheriuem hype is beyond control, probably because of that billionaire guy and polionex.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: testerx on April 27, 2017, 06:08:08 AM
Ethereum may not have the best implementation but a blockchain capable of running smart contracts is indeed a big deal.  Don't know why you would be against this kind of thing, it's idiotic if every blockchain just tries to be digital gold or cash.  I don't own any ethereum mostly because I think the price runup is based on a lot of hype and hope but to dismiss it is ridiculous.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: Asone on April 27, 2017, 07:06:17 AM
"Smart Contracts" will never amount to anything. It's just a phrase people throw around to create excitement to pump up the value of worthless coins. It's all pie in the sky. When people finally come out of the "ether", 'pun intended,' they will realize it was all smoke and mirrors.

best argumentation ever. If you do really believe in what you say could you at least explain and give arguments ?

There's probably a lot of hype around ETH and ETH principle, some leggit, some not.
Believing that we could put any kind of process through a decentralized VM is probably stupid. Believing that all legal processes that requires trust into full automated mechanisms is being a fool.

But believing that nothing can be done from decentralized and trust-based decentralized system is being as stupid as the two positions i described before.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: CoinHoarder on April 27, 2017, 11:54:05 AM
OP... I think time will prove you wrong. Smart contracts are in their infancy, and we already have useful ones. The space will take time to develop, as complicated smart contracts can't be developed overnight. Although you may not see the value now, I think the value will be more easily perceivable in a few years once more working smart contracts are in the wild.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: mining1 on April 27, 2017, 12:22:18 PM
Time proved this fool wrong already. There are alot of succesful usage of smart blockchain technology. Latest example is probably the book released by google on ethereum.

He is just hoping he can FUD the price down so he can buy more. This guy has a really inflated sense of his influence on this forum if he thinks he can do that hahahahaah.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: altcoinrich on April 27, 2017, 12:23:12 PM
I think ETHER is a really awesome platform, if you do more research, you would never publish such OP. ETHER is powerful, therefore so many big projects are based on ETHER.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: dfd1 on April 27, 2017, 12:43:10 PM
I think ETHER is a really awesome platform, if you do more research, you would never publish such OP. ETHER is powerful, therefore so many big projects are based on ETHER.
Can you name some projects based on ETHER please?
And how ETHER is better than ROOTSTOCK, COUNTERPARTY or  OMNI LAYER?


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: Asone on April 27, 2017, 12:47:51 PM
I think ETHER is a really awesome platform, if you do more research, you would never publish such OP. ETHER is powerful, therefore so many big projects are based on ETHER.
Can you name some projects based on ETHER please?
And how ETHER is better than ROOTSTOCK, COUNTERPARTY or  OMNI LAYER?

Sure, you'll find many here : http://dapps.ethercasts.com/ (http://dapps.ethercasts.com/)

You're welcome  :-*


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: Red-Apple on April 27, 2017, 12:47:59 PM
Time proved this fool wrong already. There are alot of succesful usage of smart blockchain technology. Latest example is probably the book released by google on ethereum.

He is just hoping he can FUD the price down so he can buy more. This guy has a really inflated sense of his influence on this forum if he thinks he can do that hahahahaah.

this is exactly why people hate ethereum so much and call it as shit. because it is full of shills like you who use any opportunity to spread lies in order to hype up the coin and make more money. this centralized overlords that you are advertising for are getting richer and richer while you earn pennies.

here is the lie part:
this book has nothing to do with google, but a google employee. there is a difference.
it also has nothing to do with ethereum nor smart contracts, but with blockchain technology that bitcoin has introduced. there is another big difference.

in the words of Tea Uglow, creator of this book (A Universe Explodes):
Quote
"Only 100 people own original versions of A Universe Explodes, but each of those copies can be passed onto friends via email. The book, which has 128 words per page, can be handed off from friend to friend up to 100 times. There’s a catch, though: Before an owner can give her version away, she must remove two words and add one to every page, creating a personalized limited edition of the book.
These changes are saved to a public database using blockchain, the technology that’s the backbone of bitcoin. Explained simply, blockchain is an online ledger whose transaction history is available for anyone to view but not manipulate. With something like bitcoin, the transactions are financial in nature—you can see who bought the cryptocurrency, when they bought it, and for how much, without the need of a bank. In the case of A Universe Explodes, it’s more about tracking creativity than the transaction itself. "

p.s. on a related note, i kind of disagree with OP, because i believe "smart contracts" are a good thing. but you shouldn't mistake "smart contract" with the projects like etehreum. it is the same as "blockchain technology" it can be used by bitcoin in a good way and have real adoption and usage but it can also be used by a shitcoin with 0 usage and only pump and dump.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: dfd1 on April 27, 2017, 12:50:44 PM
I think ETHER is a really awesome platform, if you do more research, you would never publish such OP. ETHER is powerful, therefore so many big projects are based on ETHER.
Can you name some projects based on ETHER please?
And how ETHER is better than ROOTSTOCK, COUNTERPARTY or  OMNI LAYER?

Sure, you'll find many here : http://dapps.ethercasts.com/ (http://dapps.ethercasts.com/)

You're welcome  :-*
Which one is big?


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: benthach on April 27, 2017, 12:56:58 PM
I think ETHER is a really awesome platform, if you do more research, you would never publish such OP. ETHER is powerful, therefore so many big projects are based on ETHER.
Can you name some projects based on ETHER please?
And how ETHER is better than ROOTSTOCK, COUNTERPARTY or  OMNI LAYER?

Sure, you'll find many here : http://dapps.ethercasts.com/ (http://dapps.ethercasts.com/)

You're welcome  :-*
Which one is big?

the DAO and R3 are big, both worth hundreds of millions each but all failed to oblivion


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: shyliar on April 27, 2017, 01:03:08 PM
the DAO and R3 are big, both worth hundreds of millions each but all failed to oblivion

R3 is still around; but, they abandoned ETH after testing it early in 2016. They went on to test various competitors platforms and then developed their own. Now they are just another Ethereum competitor among the many.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: benthach on April 27, 2017, 02:01:15 PM
the DAO and R3 are big, both worth hundreds of millions each but all failed to oblivion

R3 is still around; but, they abandoned ETH after testing it early in 2016. They went on to test various competitors platforms and then developed their own. Now they are just another Ethereum competitor among the many.

R3 abandoned the etherieom because it failed, or some bad reason behind it, they can't just abandoned it in good term. IBM also about abandoned it.
everyone whose comes to use this crap got burned or abandoned after they have made ton of money. they hype and use this crap because it's easy to scam people, it a rich quick thing by mentioning it.


Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: maku on April 27, 2017, 02:54:44 PM
Smart contract are not something bad or unneeded feature. It is rather general problem with mass creation of useless atlcoins.
Even 'smart contract' platform will be worse and worse because there are too many of them.
Saying that smart contract is useless is like saying that blockchain tech is bad because we have some random altcoins.



Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: mining1 on April 27, 2017, 04:14:15 PM
R3 is still around; but, they abandoned ETH after testing it early in 2016. They went on to test various competitors platforms and then developed their own. Now they are just another Ethereum competitor among the many.

R3 failed as a consortium, they reached the conclusion that they do NOT need blockchain technology for what they were testing. That has nothing to do with ethereum and they are not really an ethereum competitor, it's like comparing apples to oranges.



Title: Re: Don't fall for "smart contract" platforms.
Post by: NoiseBoy on April 27, 2017, 04:26:01 PM
I would take a more nuanced approach. Something like: Smart Contracts may or may not have long-term value, but it's unrealistic to think a half-dozen smart contract based platforms can all succeed. If you think they can, I have some doge coin to sell you. Pick one or two most-likely winners, and hodl.