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Title: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on April 29, 2017, 01:48:48 AM As y'all know "Lightning Network" (a.k.a LN) is coming, which allows us to have streaming payment, micro payment, confidential transaction and, most notably, fast & cheap Bitcoin payment fee across multiple coin networks.
LN needs SegWit (or SegWit helps LN to be precise) so we've witnessed a whole bunch of coins beating "SegWit" drum for a while. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.0)) As few coins start hitting LN drum already, I'll list & update them here for a reference. On Mainnet
On Testnet In Development
Planned
0 shyliar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83210) shared a nice list of LN implementations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1891745.msg18805092#msg18805092). (*I'll update them all here with some research. Thanks!) 1 Alt bullish market is coming close to its end as of now. Please be adviced before investing your valuable asset in the listed coins. 2 Please refrain yourself from promoting a certain coin/asset/whatever unless it is 1) specifically related "Lightning Network" and 2) unfounded in the list above. Launch a speculation on the appropriate section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0), please. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: metamorphin on April 29, 2017, 08:11:26 AM As y'all know "Lightning Network" (a.k.a LN) is coming, which allows us to have streaming payment, micro payment, confidential transaction and, most notably, fast & cheap Bitcoin payment fee across multiple coin networks. LN needs SegWit (or SegWit helps LN to be precise) so we've witnessed a whole bunch of coins beating "SegWit" drum for a while. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.0)) As few coins start hitting LN drum already, I'll list & update them here for a reference. On Mainnet
On Testnet In Development
Planned
* I have to mind you that altcoins' bullish rally is closing to its end, and I'd advice not to put your valuable assets in danger. Groestlcoin already finished the first LN Network as the FIRST MOVER. Greetz Steve Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: weex on April 29, 2017, 08:17:45 AM Nice thread idea. It would be interesting if you'd add other stats such as block # of activation, block # of enforcement with links to each and prices at each time vs. now.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on April 29, 2017, 08:59:41 AM Groestlcoin already finished the first LN Network as the FIRST MOVER. Greetz Steve Thanks Steve As soon as I can link to the block, I'll update the info link. Nice thread idea. It would be interesting if you'd add other stats such as block # of activation, block # of enforcement with links to each and prices at each time vs. now. I'll try to do that. That's a good idea. ;) Like @Ayers says, you need to search for the price part yourself though. This is alt discussion section I think. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: ahbritto on April 29, 2017, 09:15:27 AM In production:
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on April 29, 2017, 09:36:28 AM In production:
Since the relevant PR (RPID-1224) (https://github.com/ripple/rippled/pull/1781) is closed without being merged, I'd put it in development. I'll go search if it's in mainnet or testnet. Please update me if you have more details on it. Thanks for the info! ;) Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: ahbritto on April 29, 2017, 10:23:09 AM Please update me if you have more details on it. Ripple has it fully working. It's status is enabled:
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: Ayers on April 29, 2017, 10:25:14 AM pretty much every segwit coin, will have lightining network, you can vertcoin and digibyte, they have segwit activated
Nice thread idea. It would be interesting if you'd add other stats such as block # of activation, block # of enforcement with links to each and prices at each time vs. now. you can search on whattomine for that or coinmarketcap, these coins are well known by the community, very easy to find about the specifications Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: thejaytiesto on April 29, 2017, 03:34:42 PM Your mistake is only asking what coins will support Lightning Network and not asking what coins have segwit and will get LN support because that is the thing. You need segwit enabled to profit from the features of LN at its fullest.
In this sense, LTC is the coin that is best positioned. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on April 30, 2017, 01:44:20 AM Ripple has it fully working. It's status is enabled: Checked the status and updated the original post. Thanks a ton! ;D pretty much every segwit coin, will have lightining network, you can vertcoin and digibyte, they have segwit activated That's true. LN on SegWit coins wouldn't take forever to implement and activate. Nonetheless, one being active and another being in prep aren't quite the same, imo. Your mistake is only asking what coins will support Lightning Network and not asking what coins have segwit and will get LN support because that is the thing. You need segwit enabled to profit from the features of LN at its fullest. What mistake? I've link to the original segwit thread from the get-go. Besides, this isn't speculation section to point which coin is in the best position. Edit your message, please. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: shyliar on April 30, 2017, 02:14:55 AM You have six different implementations of the lightning network.
The question isn't so much what alts have segwit making it possible to run the LN, it's whether an alt is viewed as being useful by the various versions of the LN. It's likely that obscure coins will never be used by LN as the settlement layer. Currently eclair seems ready to be implemented on LTC http://bitcoinist.com/paris-lightning-network-litecoin/ it's unclear if other versions are ready to go; although, I'm under the impression that lightningd might be on LTC very soon. As with all things crypto only time will tell. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on April 30, 2017, 02:44:33 AM You have six different implementations of the lightning network.
The question isn't so much what alts have segwit making it possible to run the LN, it's whether an alt is viewed as being useful by the various versions of the LN. It's likely that obscure coins will never be used by LN as the settlement layer. Currently eclair seems ready to be implemented on LTC http://bitcoinist.com/paris-lightning-network-litecoin/ it's unclear if other versions are ready to go; although, I'm under the impression that lightningd might be on LTC very soon. As with all things crypto only time will tell. AFAIK, segwit isn't even relevant to activate LN. It's good-ol' BTC that might leverage from deploying segwit to have smooth transition to LN, and we have had enough of drama last few weeks on whether a certain coin would have segwit or not as an intermediate precedent. Btw, I highly appreciate your input. I'll do some research on the implementations and update my message. Thanks! ;D Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: randomdude on April 30, 2017, 12:59:09 PM Decred is making steps in this direction as well. Lightning Network in their official 2017 roadmap (http://"https://forum.decred.org/threads/2017-decred-roadmap.4937/"), and a stakeholder vote is already in progress for activating LN support.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: mining1 on April 30, 2017, 09:32:28 PM LN is nice for projects with real purpose and usage. Some of these no name projects that are a copy of a copy of a copy, well, LN ain't much of a big deal. For example, ripple's payment channels aren't interesting because ripple is centralized ( private company ). If we have centralized options with high transaction per second technology, we already have banks / visa for tens of years.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: oaks05 on April 30, 2017, 09:54:19 PM Navcoin starts segwit vote tommorrow, which if successful means LN coming to Navcoin, first POS coin to go this route I believe, This will be voted on by the community by buying some Navcoin and putting them in your personal wallet, when a block is found if the person that finds it is signaling for segwit that will count as a vote for it. seems pretty cool to me, price has def reflected the past couple weeks, it has done nothing but climb, it has been around for a few years and is looking really promising for the future.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on May 01, 2017, 12:57:50 AM Decred is making steps in this direction as well. Lightning Network in their official 2017 roadmap (https://forum.decred.org/threads/2017-decred-roadmap.4937/), and a stakeholder vote is already in progress for activating LN support. I've updated my post. Thanks! Navcoin starts segwit vote tommorrow, which if successful means LN coming to Navcoin, first POS coin to go this route I believe, This will be voted on by the community by buying some Navcoin and putting them in your personal wallet, when a block is found if the person that finds it is signaling for segwit that will count as a vote for it. seems pretty cool to me, price has def reflected the past couple weeks, it has done nothing but climb, it has been around for a few years and is looking really promising for the future. The fact that NavCoin being the first POS coin with SegWit really interests me in aspects of price, market dynamics, and etc. Nonetheless, this thread is bookkeeping those who specifically show an intention to deploy, plan to deploy, or have already deployed LN. For SegWit, we already have a very useful thread going on. I'll keep my eyes on NavCoin. Thanks a ton! ;) Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: oaks05 on May 01, 2017, 02:10:49 AM Just passing on the news for everyone because navcoins really been under the radar, with segwit comes the LN stock up now well you still can, price has been hitting ath the past few days
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on May 01, 2017, 02:19:45 AM Just passing on the news for everyone because navcoins really been under the radar, with segwit comes the LN stock up now well you still can, price has been hitting ath the past few days Will you do the "passing" part on Speculation (Altcoins) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0)? I've always thought that the section is just for that, and you'd know better than I do as a senior member? If ppl keep coming up with their nice, shiny ideology of launching a spec with this thread as a platform, I'd rather ask the mod to delete this. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: oaks05 on May 01, 2017, 02:47:37 AM LN is PLANNED if it goes through just like decred and the other coins like you mentioned in the PLANNED section in your post, navcoin plan to go LN if segwit passes, comon now you ask a question you get a anwser, I wouldnt of said anything if it had nothing to do with LN.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: Jumanji7 on May 01, 2017, 07:07:22 AM As y'all know "Lightning Network" (a.k.a LN) is coming, which allows us to have streaming payment, micro payment, confidential transaction and, most notably, fast & cheap Bitcoin payment fee across multiple coin networks. LN needs SegWit (or SegWit helps LN to be precise) so we've witnessed a whole bunch of coins beating "SegWit" drum for a while. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136.0)) As few coins start hitting LN drum already, I'll list & update them here for a reference. On Mainnet
On Testnet In Development
Planned
0 shyliar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=83210) shared a nice list of LN implementations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1891745.msg18805092#msg18805092). (*I'll update them all here with some research. Thanks!) 1 Alt bullish market is coming close to its end as of now. Please be adviced before investing your valuable asset in the listed coins. 2 Please refrain yourself from promoting a certain coin/asset/whatever unless it is 1) specifically related "Lightning Network" and 2) unfounded in the list above. Launch a speculation on the appropriate section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0), please. What about BTC? It was also going to implement LN right? Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: arbitrage on May 01, 2017, 07:30:55 AM I think only few first pioneers will be awarded by implementing this, all others won't be so lucky, same story was with anonymous coins i remember how suddenly everybody gone crazy, and announce they are working on their own solution :D. Funny how this is similar.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: rainbowstain on May 01, 2017, 07:32:44 AM What about BTC? It was also going to implement LN right? This is "Altcoin" section, I think? BTC has related BIPs/ Papers/ independent implementations going on quite some time, and it's not that compelling to list BTC stuff in Altcoin thread. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: InterNut on August 28, 2017, 07:01:47 AM I see vertcoin went crazy due to atomic swaps.
Groestlcoin at only $8m cap and with lightning network and segwit is worth at least $25m cap = 3 bagger from current entry Any other coins doing atomic swaps soon? Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: InterNut on August 28, 2017, 09:10:36 AM Groestl GRS has Segwit and Lightning Network on Main Net. Only competition as far as I can see is Ripple at massive cap, Vertcoin at $35m cap, Syscoin at $75m cap, Litecoin at $3b cap.
GRS $8m cap $$$$$$$😀😀😀😀😀😀 Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: d5000 on August 28, 2017, 11:07:58 AM I just found this thread :-[ and read that it is active since April already ... (hidden below the usual spam threads). I'm the creator of the "Altcoins with Segwit Support (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777136)" thread and had already changed the title to include LN-style off chain networks because I wasn't aware of this thread here.
@rainbowstain, are you still updating this thread and is the OP up to date? In this case I'll link to it in my Segwit thread and remove the LN section, limiting it explicitly to the "Segwit" topic. So we avoid redundancy. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: Altcoinfanatic on August 28, 2017, 11:24:05 AM Groestl GRS has Segwit and Lightning Network on Main Net. Only competition as far as I can see is Ripple at massive cap, Vertcoin at $35m cap, Syscoin at $75m cap, Litecoin at $3b cap. GRS $8m cap $$$$$$$😀😀😀😀😀😀 Groestlcoin was first coin to have segwit and lightning network on mainnet. Very undervalued. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: izumaki on August 28, 2017, 11:31:01 AM Wow thanks for this update on lightening network, its really amazing to see these coins improve on their development by adding lightening network, i will keep an eyeon these.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: myfranco on September 03, 2017, 10:18:08 PM Groestl GRS has Segwit and Lightning Network on Main Net. Only competition as far as I can see is Ripple at massive cap, Vertcoin at $35m cap, Syscoin at $75m cap, Litecoin at $3b cap. GRS $8m cap $$$$$$$😀😀😀😀😀😀 Groestlcoin was first coin to have segwit and lightning network on mainnet. Very undervalued. Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: Altcoinfanatic on September 04, 2017, 07:02:33 PM Groestl GRS has Segwit and Lightning Network on Main Net. Only competition as far as I can see is Ripple at massive cap, Vertcoin at $35m cap, Syscoin at $75m cap, Litecoin at $3b cap. GRS $8m cap $$$$$$$😀😀😀😀😀😀 Groestlcoin was first coin to have segwit and lightning network on mainnet. Very undervalued. Decide yourself: http://www.groestlcoin.org/news/ New updates coming on 22-09-2017 😀 Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: Lifework on December 22, 2017, 10:48:57 AM Im confused can someone clarify for me please? can you buy Lightning Network LND or is it just a trading platform where you can trade multiple coins like litecoin to btc? Im confused researching this. if you can only use it as a platform how can one benefit financially besides lower fees/ faster trades? I get that part. can you somehow bet on it Lightning network? or since its lightning network LTC is their coin so invest in it if you want to bet on it working? Any direction is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: cryptomema on December 22, 2017, 10:59:01 AM Seems like LTC already implemented this Lightning Network it gives a faster and more reliable transactions compare to the other coins out there.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: d5000 on December 22, 2017, 11:19:08 AM Seems like LTC already implemented this Lightning Network it gives a faster and more reliable transactions compare to the other coins out there. Where do you heard/read that? (I'm really interested.)As far as I know, there are tests (the most prominent one having occured in November, when the first LTC/BTC swap was tested), but Litecoin is in no way more advanced than Bitcoin and other coins that have Segwit enabled and the technology is still not ready for mass adoption. (I would be happy if you were correct.) Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: kaeluxdeuz on December 22, 2017, 11:20:43 AM Faster yet reliable implementation of Lightning Network, i think it was needed. It proves to most users that the Bitcoin / Litecoin partnership wasn't just a show, but it's proven to be worth it.
Title: Re: Altcoins with "Lightning Network" support Post by: APICEMTECH on December 22, 2017, 11:25:22 AM OF all the alternate currencies that you have mentioned in the list, I like Via Coin the most. The developer has been working on this for a long time now and the coin has a great community support around it.
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