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Title: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: philipp on June 18, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
Looking at the comments in the few articles about Bitcoin that appeared on Slashdot so far, it seems the Slahsdot crowd really hates Bitcoin. However I do not see an obvious reason for that? Any ideas why the Slashdot crowd hates Bitcoin?

Philipp


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: hamdi on June 18, 2011, 12:41:30 PM
i am among slashdot crowd and love bitcoin.

its just so that the haters tend to post more than the passive lovers.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: de_bert on June 18, 2011, 12:43:38 PM
Because
a) They were not "a few", but quite many
b) the slashdot crowd is reaaaally biased in general.
For example everything iPhone is veeeery important, even if it's just some mention somewhere, but there has hardly ever been an article about WebOS, even when some really important and innovative stuff happened there.

So don't take it personally, but rather consider not reading Slashdot anymore ;-)


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: drapetomaniac on June 18, 2011, 12:49:15 PM
I know a slashdot type of guy in real life who won't back bitcoin because he thinks it is far to insecure.
He believes it will become hacker central.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Clipse on June 18, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
Slashdot is like any other big tech site, elitist to the core.

Blind elitist however, if they didnt know about a specific thing the day it came to light then it must be something terrible.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: JA37 on June 18, 2011, 12:58:55 PM
I'm a slashdot guy and I don't hate bitcoin. I don't love it either though.
I do however find the rampant libertarianism that comes with bitcoin somewhat annoying.
The tech is cool, though.
And it's quite obvious that many who frequent these forums are young, rather naive and not nearly as pragmatic as I am. And I also think it's far to insecure. I mined a few coins and that's all I'll invest in it.
I think bitcoin has a place, but I'm not sure it'll find it before something else takes over.

This was rather a stream of consciousness than a well thought out post, but take it for what it is.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: philipp on June 18, 2011, 01:02:34 PM
I think bitcoin has a place, but I'm not sure it'll find it before something else takes over.

We might very well find, by the time there's a serious alternative, that Bitcoin is too well entrenched, and good enough for something else to take over. Just like ogg never really replaced mp3.

Philipp


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: drapetomaniac on June 18, 2011, 01:06:44 PM
I'm a slashdot guy and I don't hate bitcoin. I don't love it either though.
I do however find the rampant libertarianism that comes with bitcoin somewhat annoying.
The tech is cool, though.
And it's quite obvious that many who frequent these forums are young, rather naive and not nearly as pragmatic as I am. And I also think it's far to insecure. I mined a few coins and that's all I'll invest in it.
I think bitcoin has a place, but I'm not sure it'll find it before something else takes over.

This was rather a stream of consciousness than a well thought out post, but take it for what it is.

What's annoying about realizing the inherent meta-aspect of liberty the concept of bitcoin contains?  Centralized authorities have almost always had control over the monetary supply of the people and bitcoin is the first viable alternative.  I think when something as basic as currency can be shown to work effectively without control by a violent monopoly (the State), people may begin to explore that basic philosophy of liberty in other areas as well.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: you2 on June 18, 2011, 01:32:37 PM
Maybe some science guy (not payed by the government ;-)) should study the pros and cons of bitcoin  and show the results in public!



Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on June 18, 2011, 02:27:34 PM
Because old people hate new things that they don't understand, no matter how educated they are.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: de_bert on June 18, 2011, 02:55:09 PM
I'm beginning to feel old, too, but I believe in BitCoin - and I don't like Slashdot as I used to :-)


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: BioMike on June 18, 2011, 03:27:34 PM
I think it is mostly the way Bitcoin was introduced on Slashdot (spammy fanboyism slashvertisement) that slashdot people don't like bitcoin. I think the slashdot people would have loved the concept if it wasn't introduced that way and pushed through their throats.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: opticbit on June 18, 2011, 04:34:58 PM
I used to read slashdot more often. I wondered the same thing, seems like most of the above comments got some portion of why the crowed isn't into it.  I would think the sd crowd would be able to understand it better than the average person and accept btc.  But it takes more than understanding.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: littlebittycoin on June 18, 2011, 04:36:46 PM
iv noticed this as well but even diff people then slash online groups should love the idea of bitcoins


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: JA37 on June 18, 2011, 05:34:22 PM
What's annoying about realizing the inherent meta-aspect of liberty the concept of bitcoin contains?  Centralized authorities have almost always had control over the monetary supply of the people and bitcoin is the first viable alternative.  I think when something as basic as currency can be shown to work effectively without control by a violent monopoly (the State), people may begin to explore that basic philosophy of liberty in other areas as well.

That. Just that.
"The gubbimint's bad, mkay?"
Bloody annoying is what it is.
Like the tech, hate the fanbois.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Computer Stuff on June 18, 2011, 06:39:24 PM
Because old people hate new things that they don't understand, no matter how educated they are.

So I guess we know what you will be like in old age then!

Personally I'm surprised at just how quickly the majority has gained so much computer literacy.  I’m in my late 50s so I often encounter age discrimination, but to be fair I wasn’t the most open minded person myself when I was young so perhaps I’m getting back some of what I gave.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: NghtRppr on June 18, 2011, 06:59:05 PM
Looking at the comments in the few articles about Bitcoin that appeared on Slashdot so far, it seems the Slahsdot crowd really hates Bitcoin. However I do not see an obvious reason for that? Any ideas why the Slashdot crowd hates Bitcoin?

Philipp


Experts in general are competent in their field but incompetent in others. In this case, they're good with computer science and engineering but bad with economics and political science. Also, there have been several stories about Bitcoin. The Slashdot crowd hates repetition and attention-seeking. Many people perceive the spate of Bitcoin stories to be a way to pump up the value of Bitcoin. That combined with the jealousy over not getting involved earlier makes them generally bitter.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: de_bert on June 20, 2011, 07:12:37 AM
It may, btw, also have to do with the terribly inaccurate reporting on Slashdot:
http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/06/19/2125252/Bitcoin-Price-Crashes


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: NF6X on June 20, 2011, 08:17:34 AM
Is there anything in the world that some vocal subset of Slashdot doesn't hate?


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: nhodges on June 20, 2011, 08:27:24 AM
/. are a bunch of old fogeys that are slow to adopt new things (sometimes, anyway)


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on June 20, 2011, 08:41:46 AM
Looking at the comments in the few articles about Bitcoin that appeared on Slashdot so far, it seems the Slahsdot crowd really hates Bitcoin. However I do not see an obvious reason for that? Any ideas why the Slashdot crowd hates Bitcoin?

Philipp


It’s a condition called Being a Cynical Asshole.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: tnkflx on June 20, 2011, 09:02:22 AM
Slashdot's only good for it's news, the comments are worthless...


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: slaithe on June 20, 2011, 09:04:21 AM
Looking at the comments in the few articles about Bitcoin that appeared on Slashdot so far, it seems the Slahsdot crowd really hates Bitcoin. However I do not see an obvious reason for that? Any ideas why the Slashdot crowd hates Bitcoin?

Philipp


It’s a condition called Being a Cynical Asshole.

Every generation has them.  While I'm cynical of buying and selling BTC, for now, I have no problem mining as long as I'm covering my electrical power costs.  However, the hate I see from some over BTC proves to me that some people are more about pissing all over everyone else's attempts rather than contributing energy and ideas to finding a solution.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Webengers on June 20, 2011, 09:06:35 AM
/. are a bunch of old fogeys that are slow to adopt new things (sometimes, anyway)

Haters gonna hate.



Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Travis on June 20, 2011, 09:15:00 AM
What's annoying about realizing the inherent meta-aspect of liberty the concept of bitcoin contains?  Centralized authorities have almost always had control over the monetary supply of the people and bitcoin is the first viable alternative.  I think when something as basic as currency can be shown to work effectively without control by a violent monopoly (the State), people may begin to explore that basic philosophy of liberty in other areas as well.

That. Just that.
"The gubbimint's bad, mkay?"
Bloody annoying is what it is.
Like the tech, hate the fanbois.

Then why don't you fess up with an argument shilling for the Fed if you don't like it.

And "fanboy" is hardly a justified term to use. If you are a "fanboy" for the present monetary system then put up an argument for it, instead of just calling others who are against the system "fanboys". People become "fanboys" for apple products and game consoles, not ideologies.  I don't imagine you would defend central banking, but I also must say it is very very easy to argue that the term "violent monopoly" applies to the government.

Anyways, to comment on the thread subject, it doesn't seem to be just the slashdot crowd that likes to bash bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: JA37 on June 20, 2011, 09:22:40 AM
Slashdot's only good for it's news, the comments are worthless...
I wouldn't say worthless.
This guy is both spot on and quite funny while he's at it.  :D
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2251220&cid=36493684


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: de_bert on June 20, 2011, 10:36:23 AM
I wouldn't say worthless.
This guy is both spot on and quite funny while he's at it.  :D
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2251220&cid=36493684

first thing I noticed was "the marketing department at NVidia" - so much for spot on :-)
However I was also thinking that AMD is really profiting a lot off this...


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: tnkflx on June 20, 2011, 10:50:39 AM
Slashdot's only good for it's news, the comments are worthless...
I wouldn't say worthless.
This guy is both spot on and quite funny while he's at it.  :D
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2251220&cid=36493684

Slashdot's only good for it's news, most of the comments are worthless... ;-)


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Tasty Champa on June 20, 2011, 11:13:02 AM
I look at /. once or more a day just to stay up with whatever crazy shit is going on in the world, quite often it is very interesting. The comments however have indeed downgraded because it's just not fun being surrounded by relentless bastards who do nothing but complain or target the OP.
So most people left to brighter more intellectually refined and delightful places to be.
Sometimes when I'm feeling happy I notice I haven't been there lately.
/. told me about bitcoins a long time ago back when cpu mining was fruitful.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: sodgi7 on June 20, 2011, 12:29:58 PM
Slashdot is filled with ignorant people who have no idea what they are talking about. Basically they are borrowing somebodies views and just blasting them everywhere in the forums without having any opinion of their own about the topic whatsoever.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Technopope on June 20, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
It may, btw, also have to do with the terribly inaccurate reporting on Slashdot:
http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/06/19/2125252/Bitcoin-Price-Crashes

The linked to article is completely accurate. The opinions in the comments are mixed, but many make interesting observations that ring true, even if they are negative..

Maybe it is us here are are biased ones...


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: de_bert on June 20, 2011, 02:42:24 PM
The linked to article is completely accurate. The opinions in the comments are mixed, but many make interesting observations that ring true, even if they are negative..

Maybe it is us here are are biased ones...

Yes, I admit, this is one of the more accurate summaries. It was just the title that set me off (I mean, the price did not just drop - someone bought out the whole Mt. Gox market, because he could, because he had illgotten coins at his disposal).


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 20, 2011, 02:58:04 PM
I'm a slashdot guy and I don't hate bitcoin. I don't love it either though.
I do however find the rampant libertarianism that comes with bitcoin somewhat annoying.

I too am a Slashdotter who is pretty neutral about BitCoin!

Like Libertarianism itself Bitcoin is going through a transition from elegant theory to brutal reality.

To put that another way: "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, in practice there is!"

The Goddess of Libertarianism and "Objectivism" (Ayn Rand) was happy to collect her (gasp) government Social Security checks for many years. Her great prophet Alan Greenspan was the (government) person who Nationalized the US banking system in 2008.

Likewise the great and noble idea of a totally abstract form of money is starting to attract some serious crooks of various types. Up until a month ago all we saw were amateurs, now there is enough money (however you define it) to attract some serious thieves - not just script kiddies and small time con artists.

Sorry folks "I calls them as I sees them".


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: dan_a on June 20, 2011, 03:58:53 PM
Slashdot's only good for it's news, the comments are worthless...
The news is mostly days old, but quite often I learn things from the comments.
Personally I prefer lwn.net where the news is up to a week old but has fantastic analysis with it.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Bleak Morn on June 20, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Looking at the comments in the few articles about Bitcoin that appeared on Slashdot so far, it seems the Slahsdot crowd really hates Bitcoin. However I do not see an obvious reason for that? Any ideas why the Slashdot crowd hates Bitcoin?

Philipp


Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour; a long habit of not thinking a thing WRONG, gives it a superficial appearance of being RIGHT, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason. - Thomas Paine, "Common Sense" (1776)

Full text here (great read!): http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Common_Sense


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Bleak Morn on June 20, 2011, 05:07:48 PM
Like Libertarianism itself Bitcoin is going through a transition from elegant theory to brutal reality.

Mainly the brutal reality that people would rather burn different ideas at the stake than give them a try.

The crux of Libertarianism is nothing more than "the ethic of reciprocity" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule)) - what's novel is the idea that we should hold governments to the same standards as individuals when it comes to stealing, enslaving, and murdering.

Similar view on Bitcoin as well. Simple idea - no middle-men meddling in your monetary exchanges. When it comes to that, Bitcoin works great "in reality".

Seems pathetic to take the position that these ideals shouldn't be persued "in reality". From where I stand, only a sociopath would stand against them.



Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: bitsalame on June 20, 2011, 06:08:06 PM
The strength of the bitcoin currency lies on the weakness of the current economic system.
If Greece crashes, if the US crashes, if the world goes to hell, suddenly the value of alternate economic systems will raise.
Even bartering becomes attractive, and it was very evident in the Argentine economic crisis in 2001.

The history of humanity is plagued with examples like this, it is in our human nature.

The difference with these alternative "backup" systems, the bitcoin can become a strong foundation and a currency by itself.
This is something quite unique in the history of humanity, this uniqueness is due to the advancement of technology.

Definitely, it will NOT just stay within the hackers circle.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Bleak Morn on June 20, 2011, 06:23:39 PM
Definitely, it will NOT just stay within the hackers circle.

For now it fails the "Mom" test.

When my Mom can figure out how to use it to buy an antique lamp on eBay, it can go mainstream. For now, even techies I know are having trouble getting their heads around the concept.

The main thing between them and using bitcoin is the economic decision to invest time in understanding it. Current assessment for most? "Why bother?"


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 20, 2011, 06:35:03 PM
Like Libertarianism itself Bitcoin is going through a transition from elegant theory to brutal reality.
Similar view on Bitcoin as well. Simple idea - no middle-men meddling in your monetary exchanges. When it comes to that, Bitcoin works great "in reality".

We are seeing just how well the Bitcoin world works as the more competent hackers and thieves (i.e. beyond script kiddies) decide to play.

This is essentially what banking and currency were until about 200-300 years ago the current set of crazy banking rules developed because thieves at every level forced the regulations.

My family lived in Arizona when it was still a territory and have some real horror stories about banks that simply disappeared with everyone's savings.

At least now the crooks have to get creative (Worldcom, Enron)

I suspect that if ever Bitcoin becomes widespread it will in fact look very much like any other bank/exchange (PayPal, Western Union, etc.)


Title: Why is the Slashdot crowd too dumb to understand well-known facts & philosophy?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on June 20, 2011, 06:49:37 PM
I'm a slashdot guy and I don't hate bitcoin. I don't love it either though.
I do however find the rampant libertarianism that comes with bitcoin somewhat annoying.

I too am a Slashdotter who is pretty neutral about BitCoin!

Like Libertarianism itself Bitcoin is going through a transition from elegant theory to brutal reality.

To put that another way: "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, in practice there is!"

The Goddess of Libertarianism and "Objectivism" (Ayn Rand) was happy to collect her (gasp) government Social Security checks for many years. Her great prophet Alan Greenspan was the (government) person who Nationalized the US banking system in 2008.

Likewise the great and noble idea of a totally abstract form of money is starting to attract some serious crooks of various types. Up until a month ago all we saw were amateurs, now there is enough money (however you define it) to attract some serious thieves - not just script kiddies and small time con artists.

Sorry folks "I calls them as I sees them".

You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?

-  You love to bash libertarians, but have a terrible command of the relevant facts.  EG, Greenspan left office in 2006.  And the Federal Reserve Act nationalized the banking system long ago, in 1913.

-  Your catty, emotional dislike of "all-time" bestselling author "Ayn Rand" makes you expose your ridiculous penchant for overusing the "Look@me, I'm being sooo snarky and sarcastic" quotation marks.

- You get your worldview mostly from Viacom's corporate liberal entertainment complex (Mahar, Maddow, Stewart, Olbermann, etc.) and parrot it without the benefit of critical thought or even cursory fact-checking.

- You think that Democrats are like, cool, and stuff.  Or at least you did in 2008, when you voted for Obama.

Sorry dumbo, but you're not the only one who ""calls them as I sees them"."

And Ayn Rand had every right to reclaim the money stolen from her at gunpoint, under pretext of 'social security.'


Title: Re: Why is the Slashdot crowd too dumb to understand well-known facts & philosophy?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 20, 2011, 07:00:33 PM

You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?


I never respond to name calling.

Your "facts" are totally wrong, especially about my TV habits (I don't even own a TV!)


Title: Re: Why is the Slashdot crowd too dumb to understand well-known facts & philosophy?
Post by: iCEBREAKER on June 20, 2011, 10:23:30 PM

You certainly are a good representative of the typical trendy socialist /.'r  Why?


I never respond to name calling.

Your "facts" are totally wrong, especially about my TV habits (I don't even own a TV!)

Nevermind your lack of a TV (I've never owned one either).

Calling Ayn Rand, who is a respected figure among cyber-libertarians, a "Goddess of Libertarianism" is not going to engender a constructive conversation.

You don't get to decide what years Greenspan was in office as Fed Chairman.  That is a fact you have no jurisdiction over.

Greenspan was not in office in the year 2008.  There's no way he could have "nationalized the banks" that year.

Understood?


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: coinstackers on June 20, 2011, 10:31:17 PM
Yeah most comments on / . are hates. Seems to be common among most people who comment.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 20, 2011, 10:34:31 PM
Yeah most comments on / . are hates. Seems to be common among most people who comment.

True in this forum as in every other  :'(

We live in an age of "anti-heroes"  :'(


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: dsrb on June 20, 2011, 10:37:47 PM
Maybe some science guy (not payed by the government ;-)) should study the pros and cons of bitcoin  and show the results in public!



I thought the basis for Bitcoin was in fact a paper from a "science guy".


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 20, 2011, 10:53:01 PM
If anyone really has something to say other than a personal attack/rant I will be happy to respond!

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists" of 70 years ago.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 20, 2011, 11:29:36 PM
They also hate the bitcoin crowd in hacker news...

Look what some dude made :D

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2613271


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Fjordbit on June 20, 2011, 11:45:59 PM
No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame.
Rob Malda, founder of technology website Slashdot
On the launch of the iPod in 2001

Nailed it.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: LittleGnome on June 21, 2011, 01:08:58 AM
I'm a mostly reformed /.er, and I started there before the 2000 recession. So FWIW...

Imagine all those asshole 13 year olds playing Modern Warfare online, trash-talking over the mike.

Now imagine they're in their 30's or 40's and haven't changed, other than maybe not being in Mom's basement anymore.

That's 60% of the /. crowd.

But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 21, 2011, 04:04:14 AM
But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!

BOTH of them LMAO!  ;D


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: LittleGnome on June 21, 2011, 05:48:37 AM
But the rest of them are surprisingly good peeps!

BOTH of them LMAO!  ;D
Thanks Karen, ;D

I want to add that I really have found thousands of cool things and people through /., and they are still a 'goto' news resource for me. But I don't often have the patience to wade into their comments anymore. That being said, one can often find real gems there if you do.

Also, sometimes it's fun to bait the trolls...


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Karen Palen on June 21, 2011, 11:21:14 AM
I want to add that I really have found thousands of cool things and people through /., and they are still a 'goto' news resource for me. But I don't often have the patience to wade into their comments anymore. That being said, one can often find real gems there if you do.

Also, sometimes it's fun to bait the trolls...

As have I on both items.

When you have a bunch of Mod points then reading the trolls can be fun.  ;D


Title: Flamebaiting troll is obviously flamebaiting
Post by: iCEBREAKER on June 26, 2011, 05:18:48 PM
If anyone really has something to say other than a personal attack/rant I will be happy to respond!
Pointing out that Greenspan left office years before you claim he "nationalized the banks" is not a personal attack.

Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists"  of 70 years ago.

Quote
Godwin's Law       
A term that originated on Usenet, Godwin's Law states that as an online argument grows longer and more heated, it becomes increasingly likely that somebody will bring up Adolf Hitler or the Nazis. When such an event occurs, the person guilty of invoking Godwin's Law has effectively forfeited the argument.


Until then i consider the so called "libertarians" to be about as rational and the "National Socialists"  of 70 years ago.

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Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies, sometimes also known as Godwin's Law, is a theory put forward by Mike Godwin in 1990. Godwin noticed that long-threaded discussions on the Internet tended to turn into mud slinging competitions by the end. The longer a thread got, the more likely it was that a Nazi comparison would be dragged into the discussion. Godwin's Rule states that: “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

There are several implications to Godwin's Rule. Many online discussions involve intense personal beliefs and values, which sometimes clash quite dramatically. As the discussion continues, it tends to become less rational, especially after most of the valid arguments from both sides have been presented. On a hot button issue with no “right” answer, opponents may start to exchange insults because they become angry and frustrated.

Comparing someone, or an action, with the Nazis is a serious charge. The German Nationalsozialismus party dominated Germany from the 1920s through the 1940s. In 1921, Adolf Hitler was elected leader of the Nazi Party. Throughout most of the world, Hitler and the Nazis are equated with ultimate evil, due to their actions in the Second World War, which included the roundup of millions of Jewish people, homosexuals, gypsies, and other “undesirables” in the name of ethnic purity. The Nazis are associated with dictatorship, totalitarianism, and rigid order.

There are situations in which bringing up the Nazi party or Hitler is entirely legitimate. Any discussion of modern German history, for example, should include a discussion of the Nazis. Conversations about dictatorships and genocide are also situations in which a Nazi analogy is valid. However, when Nazis are brought up because a conversation is not going well, it suggests that the other side may have won the argument. Furthermore, it weakens valid comparisons.

Often, an example of Godwin's Rule accompanies hyperbole. The idea is to invalidate the opposition by comparing it to the Nazi Party. However, this can backfire, and usually does. Unless the comparison is valid, the person who brought up Nazis or Hitler is considered to be the loser. In a rational discussion or debate on or off the Internet, resorting to a Nazi comparison is generally a strong indicator that you have run out of material to discuss or support your claims.

Many Internet communities have taken Godwin's Rule to mean that when Nazis enter a conversation, the discussion is over. In some cases, someone may invoke Godwin's Rule to end a conversation before it gets worse. However, sometimes a discussion should continue, even though Godwin's Rule has been illustrated by a Nazi reference. Individual members of the discussion decide whether or not a conversation will be carried or ended with an instance of Godwin's Rule.



Title: Re: Why is the Slashdot crowd too dumb to understand well-known facts & philosophy?
Post by: jgraham on June 28, 2011, 01:45:46 AM
Calling Ayn Rand, who is a respected figure among cyber-libertarians
Too bad she was pretty short on reciprocity with libertarians in general.   ;D


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: BusinessMan on June 28, 2011, 01:46:40 AM
Who cares reddit loves them and that's all that matters.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: flailing Junk on June 28, 2011, 01:58:40 AM
Because they were in the position to be an early adopter and missed out on it. They can relieve some of their anxiety by shitting on it now.


Title: Re: Why does the Slashdot crowd hate Bitcoin?
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 28, 2011, 03:49:40 AM
i also had the opportunity to be an early adopter as i got in touch with bitcoin in it's early start, just didn't gave it the importance i should, and now i'm a full supporter of Bitcoin, not a hater...

If i have to be angry with someone it's with myself, not with Bitcoin or it's users/early adopters.