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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBaC7UZm2zA

John Carmack is the genius behind the most famous computer game engines, he creates rockets in his spare time, and he invented Bitcoin.

No its not him

He doesn't have a face of satoshi

John is programming genius, legendary developer of 3D FPS games but he is not Satoshi.

Carmack seems to be a man quite proud of his achievements, I am sure he would release Bitcoin under his own name.

And fo you think that Satoshi would sell himself and work for Facebook? Totally unlikely.

Carmack is very wealthy man, why in the name of Lord he never fixed his teeth?

Everyone is Satoshi according to some people.  At least sometimes people put the effort in like when iamnotback claimed that John Nash was Satoshi, but you've just straight up said a pointless comment with no evidence.

Maybe you just want to feel original.

That's the first time I have seen anyone name him as Satoshi and for good reason.

The video did not really have any relevance.

I still think David Kleiman was Satoshi

Unfortunately David Kleiman died in 2013, we may never have that confirmed.

Another post for chasing wide goose chasing!! However, I have a strong feeling, that Satoshi is not a single person, instead it is a group of programming masters who created this path-braking blockchain technology. I am not saying that Satoshi can't be a single person, but it's my feeling about the mystery of Satoshi.

But I think it's high time that we should stop chasing Satoshi and concentrate of his/their innovation which has made many people rich. Because if Satoshi revels himself, all enforcement agencies will be behind him and he will have to spend the rest of his life behind bars. We surely don't want that to happen!   

Creator of doom the founder of bitcoin? How far fetched is this idea.
It does seem impossible. But the world is a strange place so you never really know. :-\

Haha, still actual task, who is satoshi? I absolutely think some people knows him but wait, don't you think that satoshi was simply name behind bitcoin and when things went wrong (from his side) suddenly he used and removed every information on this name, it's simply like name as mask. To my mind there is no doubt that we see that "satoshi" here many time but we don't know who he is actually.

Sometimes I wonder if Satoshi Nakamoto comes back, what could be the effect on Bitcoin itself and the Bitcoin community. Other than the mass articles that could be suddently published on the not bitcoin related news sites..Or imagine if he has a plan to come back for a purpose.Maybe he is joking at  us with segwit, ect, who know

Another claim? where sick to hear another people claiming that they are satoshi nakamoto. Does they have valid proof that can point out that they are truly the one who's invented it?

And i think it would be best if Satoshi will remain anonymous so that he will leave peacefully without giving a shit to answer on how his life going on right now and how the shit he thinking on why he creates the bitcoins that what we are using right now.

I did not bother to look in the youtube video,in the first place why now is it because Bitcoin needs another pump and John Carmack linking is a good booster,we are ok even if we don't have a concrete proof who is or are satoshi..

I would usually claim that it's just another mindless assumption on yet another satoshi wannabe, but John Carmack is an actual genius, and of all the satoshi proposals i've seen, this one is actually solid.

The problem is... Carmack has been focused on projects that are oriented to graphics, but then again, he is known to spend his time firing up rockets, and also tunned his Ferrari F40 into one of the fastest cars, so he has deep understanding of basically anything that has to do with engineering.

He also has shown some interest in bitcoin:


http://www.coindesk.com/legendary-game-programmer-john-carmack-guardedly-excited-bitcoin/

I am very surprised if the inventor of bitcoin is not Japanese but Australian named John Carmack, When all this time I think the inventor of bitcoin really satoshi Nakamoto, But it's all a pseudonym

a youtube link ? seriously ?
no proofs, nothing ?

where he said he is the creator of bitcoin ? and why come out now ?

Another claim without any proof, all of us who love to use bitcoin are satoshi. There is no need for anybody to find him out and he also don't like to get exposed. I don't think we will ever know who is the real person behind bitcoin and that is quite good thing for continuous growth of bitcoin.

No. I dont think so. Is he claiming he is Satoshi Nakamoto? Nobody is going to believe unless he show us some proof that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. You know everyone can claim the he is Satoshi Nakamoto. But no one has been proven. It looks like you want to give him publicity. I will wait for your proofs.

It is an intriguing idea, but the only reasons for Satoshi to be a group are, in my mind, of "conspiracy" nature, in the sense that one would have created a group to "undermine the financial system" or something like that.  It is not unthinkable that a government or an organization that is not happy with the financial system, or is not happy with the power and wealth that the financial system and the associated economy gives to, say, "western" states, would launch such an initiative.  For instance, I could think of a country like North Korea to be motivated to have the financial system in the west crumble down ; or a terrorist organisation or something like that, if you see bitcoin as a poison pill to kill the western financial system and its economical wealth - and to hold a serious stash of the new system.  It is not unthinkable that Japan sees this as the only way to get its debt problem lingering for 3 decades now, resolved.  It would be ironic that they end up in the hands of the Chinese.  It could be the Chinese government, realizing that the mining will end up concentrated in their country, and lay their hands on the financial instrument of the new world economic system.

But these are *motivations* for Satoshi to be a group: to have set up a task force to achieve something like that.

However, when you look at the actual creative work done to make bitcoin, everything, in my mind, points to "a guy in his basement".  After all, blasphemy as it may sound, bitcoin is not "the work of an absolute genius".  I've seen, in several fields of science, *much more sophisticated work of genius* done by a single person.  Works like Newton, Leibniz, Goedel, Einstein, Galois, Riemann, Witten, Feynman, Fermi, and the list is very long, are each, individually, much, much more sophisticated, involved, and more "stroke of genius" than bitcoin.  

That said, there are bright ideas in bitcoin, but the important point is, in 2008, most of them were actually already laying on the table, and (failed but interesting) attempts at e-cash had already been done.   When you look at the references of the Satoshi bitcoin paper, you find all these ideas, from the hash cash proof of work, to the kind of block chain to have a distributed time ordering, to the peer-to-peer network etc....

It just needed to be put together in the right order, and "have the idea".  Now, a GROUP never has "the idea".  That's always the insight of a single person.  A group helps to have MANY ideas, or to work out MANY aspects of the solutions.  But a group never has a bright insight: that's always the work of a single mind.

So it only needed ONE SINGLE MIND to put all the pieces of the puzzle, that were on the table since the last decade, together in one system.  That's the brilliant idea of Satoshi.  It only takes "a day" to get that idea, and "a week" to formalize it.  Then, it could have been a group that programmed it, but as far as I heard, the code was not of very high quality.  Most probably, a *single person* wrote that code, implementing, with some difficulties, the idea he had.

Now, of course, if a group wanted to hide that it was a group, it could of course MIMICK the somewhat "clumsy" work of an individual, that's true.  So the fact that it *could* have been done by a single individual doesn't mean it has.   It could be a single individual, as a mission for a group, and the group eliminated him  when the mission was complete.  Hard to say.

People wont accept Satoshi Nakamoto just like that,he has to provide the proofs that he is indeed the creator and even then i highly doubt he will be properly credited for the work,things have grown out of proportion than what he started and it is a billion dollar technology now and people are having their positions in the echo system and ego will play in approving anyone,look at the situation of Gavin now,i think it is really hard even for the real person behind the technology to provide any valid proof to claim his position.

Lets not start again with who is who and if Satoshi wants to reveal himself let him do that rather than speculating and making other peoples life hard.Most of the people even does not like the media attention they are garnering .With the price of bitcoin moving higher it is expected that the alias behind the man will become another talking point.

In my culture, we have heard of people who choose to vanish, usually quickly after they achieve fame (sometimes, achieve is not the correct word, especially when some people did not ask for fame, but anyway). And this is acceptable and people have respect for that decision and leave it alone. I believe we can offer the same respect to Satoshi-san.

Such identity issue is a long time issue that's been going around our forum as well on the entire cryptocurrency network. The quoted identity seems to be an program development personality who have been popular for work all around. For this making him Satoshi doesn't look alike the perfect go.

Satoshi is irrelevant to Bitcoin, in case if you haven't noticed ever since his disappearance developers dedicated 10 times of time and efforts of what Satoshi did for Bitcoin.

Have you ever appreciated the works of the current team working on the code? all you have done is accusing them of nonsense relations with banks etc.
Even if he comes out from hiding now it wont matter because he doesn't have any influence other than a million coins.

Only a tx from his keys being broadcast in the network counts everything else is stupid claims.

you know how the face of satoshi is? last tiem i've checked satoshi is still anonymous, and no satoshi isn't japan just because his name is satoshi...

while i do believe that Carmack isn't satoshi either, we have no real proof who satoshi actually is

also satoshi was tagged as a group of people, just a code name for that, there is in fact no proof that he is was alone, i think he was not

Even i can say that im satoshi nakamoto. Even theres a lot of people saying that they are the creator of bitcoin no one believes on them. One time i enjoyed reading articles on deep web, the article said that there will be only one currency in 2018 which wi be use in all parts of the world,. Do rothchilds exist? Are they the creator of bitcoin?

One question.Who cares?
I don`t care who is Satoshi Nakamoto anymore.
He created bitcoin and he left it to the people.That was the right thing to do.

I doubt he is Satoshi. Yes, he is a genius and a famous computer games programmer engineer, but I doubt he has interest of creating a technology that will go against the central authority--the government. He is already an accomplishment person and rich, so making bitcoin technology is gonna be out of league.

Based on this forum, everyone is satoshi, John Nash, Dorian Nakamoto and so on. but still, I doubt among these is exists the real Satoshi Nakamoto, but, when I just typed Satoshi Nakamoto in the google there'll appear the face of Dorian Nakamoto as a thumbnail for the Wikipedia page, a coincidence? I think yes. Either the writer has made a mistake or google just picking up random image for the thumbnail.

Agree with this. Whoever Satoshi Nakamoto is, it'll not change the fact that his invention is now popular and success.

John Carmack is a great person in the computer world due to his contributions. But even with his brilliance and genius he isnt Satoshi Nakamoto. It does not mean that if you are a famous computer game engine programmer or inventor that will automatically make you  the creator of bitcoin. Satoshi Nakamoto is just in there behind the back of the bitcoin developers and enjoying his fortune and profit.

Again a satoshi thread? Op why can't you browse around and see there are tons of threads and each one claim that they have found the identity of satoshi. And so far same result, satoshi's identify is and will always be a mystery. As far your video nothing great evidence to suggest your claim, just another wild theory but this time at least you logic is right. Just cause someone is genious and all doesn't make him satoshi. Satoshi decided to sacrifice his identity for Bitcoins sake, so Bitcoin users could never know him or the authorities could never know the users identity. Get a life and respect his wishes.

We are ALL Satoshi Nakamoto, so your argument is not totally outrageous for John Carmack to be Satoshi.  ;) .... The moment Satoshi stepped

away into the dark, he left Bitcoin to all of us. We decide what code is accepted and what will happen with Bitcoin in the future... thanks to the

consensus model. You do not have to be Satoshi to own Bitcoin or to have a say. You just need to run the software and have some hash power

backing that.  ;)

It is interesting to see how some of these discussions become fairly similar to religion-based discussions:

"He left us the world, and now it's our turn to make it better"

"What if he would come back, what would he say to us"

 ;)

Satoshi will not came back. And I don't think John Carmack is a perfect fit to claim the creator of bitcoin technology. He has his place in the gaming industry/world, so just let him be the in his niche. He should also accept the fact the Satoshi will remain anonymous forever and whoever claims to be him, is not believable anymore. Unless they touch the very first bitcoin that belongs to Satoshi.

So because of this, you concluded that he is the creator of bitcoin, I expected something better to be used in proving this. So, I can also say because Bill Gates is the creator of Microsoft, he is also the creator of bitcoin or Mark Zukerberg because he created facebook and other AI machines, then he created bitcoin. Not until someone with convincing argument comes out and his position is irrefutable will I believe that he/she actually created bitcoin.

Well I think not like this is an assumption with no concrete thing or evidence to prove this. You post claiming it then have a video link with no real evidence regarding the claim. Also it is for the better for the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto to be stayed hidden for him and for the Bitcoin community.