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Title: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: clancy on May 10, 2017, 08:46:08 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips

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Thank you all for the suggestions of other coins and see if his investment is solid or not but thats not realy the subject i need help with.
My Question is the Method of buying 4/5 coins in high volume (whatever coin it is) .

How should you handle this kind of process and to avoid high fees or any issues with traders if you have 100k to trade different crypto.

My idea how to handle this is:
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1) Fiat deposit on Kraken (euro)  - He will be Tier4 approved in a few days
2) Trade Euro To crypto (3/4 coins)

3) If Oné of the coins is not available on Kraken:
    Example Nem is not on kraken.   Buy Dogecoin on kraken - send to bittrex Dogecoin wallet - Trade Dogecoin to Nem on bittrex

3) Send to wallets ( away from trading platform )
4) Safe them on paper, ledger, key whatever specific coins is the best option to keep in a safe


I have to say you guys are a lot more friendly then Reddit lol ... a lot more frienldy replys on this forum even if you disagree
 :D :P


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: European Central Bank on May 10, 2017, 09:04:59 PM
first off maybe your friend should read up on dollar cost averaging.

all of these coins have pumped massively recently. make sure your friend isn't the last person to buy at the price peak.

none of those coins are going anywhere but there's no guarantee they'll continue to rise in the near term. things can get awful quiet awful quickly sometimes.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Whitewidow on May 10, 2017, 09:34:56 PM
Litecoin has very good fundamentals, i think its a great old trusted coin. Very good for investment.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: clancy on May 10, 2017, 09:39:43 PM
Litecoin has very good fundamentals, i think its a great old trusted coin. Very good for investment.

I agree with you, im trying to convince him to add this coin to his investment.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: johnny5johnny5 on May 10, 2017, 10:14:17 PM
The best thing you can do for your friend, is to tell him to figure this stuff out on his own. Especially if he is going to invest that much money. He needs to do some reading, start out small, and then work his way up to a $100k investment.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: dady12 on May 10, 2017, 11:33:50 PM
Litecoin has very good fundamentals, i think its a great old trusted coin. Very good for investment.
segwit have been activated and the direction of itcoin now is unknown,might go up or down


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: robelneo on May 11, 2017, 12:07:55 AM
Why ethereum and bitcoin is not in his list these are the top two coins in the market,your friend do have a good choice of coin to invest but he should expand his portfolio to up and coming coin like Bitconnectcoin and footballcoin the saying buy early not early is very much true in this industry..


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: airSPACE on May 11, 2017, 08:20:42 AM
BTC, ETH, XRP, XMR, LTC, FCT, XEM, BURST, DCR and, of course, Waves.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: shamzblueworld on May 11, 2017, 08:58:11 AM
What is the time period of your investment? How long are you willing to wait before you'd like to cash in your profits?
Secondly, wait for a while as all of these coins have recently been pumped quite high, let the price settle around a value and then buy.
If you're open to suggestions about other coins, Decred, Amp, Lisk, Pink and Golem are some of the good options too.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: marketone on May 11, 2017, 09:45:52 AM
If you don't have proper knowledge of choosing better to research because there are many other which will give profits to your friend. Tell him to learn everything about crypto because everyone will suggestions according their approach in the market.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Zadicar on May 11, 2017, 10:05:19 AM
first off maybe your friend should read up on dollar cost averaging.

all of these coins have pumped massively recently. make sure your friend isn't the last person to buy at the price peak.

none of those coins are going anywhere but there's no guarantee they'll continue to rise in the near term. things can get awful quiet awful quickly sometimes.

Thats the main risk because we wont know if we are buying on the possible highest peak price of those coins have been mentioned knowing that they are pumping in previous days or weeks.You should really tell your friend that purchase coins on his own risk and those coins being mentioned do really have potential but still arent sure if they would continue to rise up on upcoming months or years just like European Central Bank said.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Red-Apple on May 11, 2017, 11:15:19 AM
i seriously doubt that this is an honest question but i'll bite!

investing 100,000 USD in a cryptocurrency exchange bank account will raise a lot of red flags on your (friend's) bank and it may cause some troubles for him.

also all these coins you mentioned are heavily pumped, at this point the chances of these coins getting dumped is much higher than chances of any more rise.
also if you (your friend) plans on holding these for longer period of time, he will definitely lose money and losing money on such a big investment means losing a lot of money.

lets imagine Doge. it will drop down to 40 satoshi in about a couple of months and that is a 42% loss meaning you will lose $42000 in a couple of months.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: zaspeed151 on May 11, 2017, 11:44:39 AM
i like Ripple, Dash , Monero , Eth  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Ayers on May 11, 2017, 12:11:46 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips

first thing maybe is to review again your decision, ripple is a bad investment, doge is the only good thing there, if they activate segwit or thye do the last promised upgrade, for storage better to do it locally with the core version for each coin you want to invest, it's the most secure way


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: thebatletbet on May 11, 2017, 12:21:36 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips

if you want trade and deposit use fiat money, in poloniex and bittrex you can use USDT
if you country support tether.io you can deposit use fiat money, use wire trancfer, debit card or credit card
in kraken many option deposit use fiat money but altcoin trade in kraken not variatif not same poloniex and bittrex


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: begginer on May 11, 2017, 12:59:16 PM
I'd say for BTC and ETH, they're stable and likely to grow but u wont make too much profit. If you want more profit try Ripple and SiaCoin


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: stomachgrowls on May 11, 2017, 01:49:08 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips

first thing maybe is to review again your decision, ripple is a bad investment, doge is the only good thing there, if they activate segwit or thye do the last promised upgrade, for storage better to do it locally with the core version for each coin you want to invest, it's the most secure way
Agree,only DOGEcoin i do see has potential but we cant still be sure if Segwit would be activated which means its risky if we put up money on it and Spending 100k USD is no joke amount therefore your friend must really know about the involved risk on engaging to cryptocurrencies.Prices might be on its ATH now and buying now will possibly cause you negative when alts tend to do backwards on its price.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: prashanta on May 11, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips
Very good decision is that, I like doge & ripple coin so much for invest & they will rise quickly but nem & stellar will be so longer i think .

In addition, Wave is the best option to invest right now. recently it will be boost...


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Febo on May 11, 2017, 02:42:33 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips

Since his choice is a bit strange, i would suggests him to at least add BTC on the list. And invest in 5 coins.

I have no ideas about paperwalets for those coins. 


Actually give your friend read this first;

https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/6acolz/cryptocurrencies_and_the_circle_of_competence/


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: bustedsynx on May 11, 2017, 02:44:56 PM
Meh, the best time to invest is buying blood. Many alt markets are experiencing new highs. Wait for the markets to simmer down.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Serco on May 11, 2017, 04:15:07 PM
BTC, ETH , Waves , XEM  ;D


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: btcxyzzz on May 11, 2017, 05:23:11 PM
My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)

WOW :)) A recipe for disaster. Totally wrong picks.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: LegendaryMiner on May 11, 2017, 05:32:05 PM
I can't see good reasons to invest in any of these four coins, especially after they have already been pumped. I would stay with Bitcoin, and be patient until there arises a good opportunity to diversify among other currencies.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: clancy on May 11, 2017, 09:04:45 PM
First off all thnx for all ur opinions but im not actually looking into which coin to buy thats his decision. I would definatly pick some other Coins. I told him Bitcoin, etherium and Litecoin but he wants to take a risk with a smaller coin with a possibility of a bigger payout.

What I am realy looking for now is how to do it? It doesnt mather which 4-5 coins... Its the method behind it. I wanne know if my idea how to do it is solid and and tips on that process would be much appreciated!

My idea how to handle this is:
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1) Fiat deposit on Kraken (euro)  - He will be Tier4 approved in a few days
2) Trade Euro To crypto
3) If Oné of the coins is not available trade Crypto wallet from kraken to bittrex and buy the other coin
3) Send to wallets
4) Safe them on paper, ledger, key whatever specific coins is the best option to keep in a safe


Also the ideas you guys suggested about wave, golem, amp, etc i will tell him to look into it.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: clancy on May 11, 2017, 09:22:59 PM
Hello everyone

My question is fairly simple. My friend wants to invest 100k in 4 coins (Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar)
I am looking for tips how to handle such a transaction. He is currently registered & verified at Poloniex, Kraken & Bittrex.

The idea was to deposit money in those 3, buy the coins, send them to wallets (hard, soft, paper... whichever option is better for each coin at this time)



Thnx for any info & tips

Since his choice is a bit strange, i would suggests him to at least add BTC on the list. And invest in 5 coins.

I have no ideas about paperwalets for those coins. 


Actually give your friend read this first;

https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/6acolz/cryptocurrencies_and_the_circle_of_competence/

Im gonna read that post now and tell him 2 do the same, thnx for the tip!


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: LBX on May 11, 2017, 10:38:42 PM
100k $?
Oh really
BTC, ETH, XRP, XMR, LTC, FCT, XEM, BURST, DCR and, of course, Waves.    IOC   cloakcoin  XEM Amp, Lisk BLK PPC

Do not put all the money in one currency

Some digital coins
In the long term like PPC IOC  cloakcoin   

Do not buy "in the new news"

Buy at "Falling Price"

Never buy when you SEE "rise over 50% +"
Sell if price rises more than 80% +


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: emezh10 on May 11, 2017, 11:14:55 PM
What is the time period of your investment? How long are you willing to wait before you'd like to cash in your profits?
Secondly, wait for a while as all of these coins have recently been pumped quite high, let the price settle around a value and then buy.
If you're open to suggestions about other coins, Decred, Amp, Lisk, Pink and Golem are some of the good options too.
Agree you can hold for years to get a high cashback in your investments but you also need to check your coins also if there are some complications in the bitcoin price you might get nothing so still risky for investors.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: gres91 on May 12, 2017, 04:48:54 AM

why so much money in only 4 coins? and why Ripple, Doge, Nem, Stellar?


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: aguila on May 12, 2017, 04:57:51 AM
ETH, XEM, LTC, BANCOR


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: Sumo on May 12, 2017, 05:27:54 AM
LTC is about the best around


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: asepsetiawan1990 on June 04, 2017, 08:46:14 AM
Why ethereum and bitcoin is not in his list these are the top two coins in the market,your friend do have a good choice of coin to invest but he should expand his portfolio to up and coming coin like Bitconnectcoin and footballcoin the saying buy early not early is very much true in this industry..
yeah. Why not btc & eth. The investment value is good and the market potential is good too.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: dissident on June 04, 2017, 10:34:05 AM
Performance since he made these picks

NEM  up 80%

ETH... up 160%

Stellar... flat

Doge... up 175%


Most coins have outperformed these three in the past month.. not bad but not great performance by crypto standards.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: CoinCollector006 on June 04, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
Hello clancy,

Thats a lot of money for only four coins. I mirror the sentiments of others including LBX and Dissident.

Im fact I have all four of them, but would not not buy any of them at current prices.  Stellar was an incredible trade from 300 satoshis to 1500+, but I think the likely direction for this is down in the near term.

1. increase the number of currencies to at least 8-10

2. Research and consider smaller micro cap coins that have not yet pumped for at least some of the capital. Some ideas are ABY, XBB, VOX, XCP, SLR. If you look at the charts for XBB, SLR and VOX they are flattish on long horizons as of todays date. Bittrex has a good selection of micro cap coins.

3. Allocate some of the capital to BTC. Kraken usually has lower prices than Gdax and Bitstamp. You will likely be sending BTC from the Karken account to Bittrex or Poloniex where you have a good selection of small cap coins.

4. Buy on down days if possible or at the bid price, its very easy to lose capital when you purchase after a 50 or 100% rise when the currency retraces.

Best of luck to your friend


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: ciappa on June 04, 2017, 01:07:20 PM
He should spread his 100k among ETH, XRP, XEM, Waves and Stratis

But he should invest  a smaller amount like 5-10k into minereum and qtum, two unknown and undervalued coins at the moment with a look at an extreme return of investment. (but hurry, minereum is next to adding on bigger exchanges, so the value will rise very soon)


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: mudasarali43 on July 16, 2017, 08:44:59 AM
I think (Ripple, Nem, Stellar) are good coins have good technology and good socialization in twitter.
If you want to buy these coins you should not buy when you want, you must buy when the market is in redzone and the price or Alt coins is low. When you buy at low then wait and then sell at high price and enjoy good profit.


Title: Re: Q: Invest 100k in 4 coins, Method, tips.
Post by: shams on July 16, 2017, 02:08:05 PM
If he is planning to invest for long term than it is a good idea that buy the coin and keep them in hard wallet. Because keeping such huge amount in exchange is risky in point of hacking and all this. And for the coin I don't think doge coin is worth for that much investment there are many other good coin available for long term investment you can do your full research on those coin and only invest money in those coins which you really think that have a solid future.