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Title: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Lontongmie on May 10, 2017, 11:47:56 PM
I recently received this as a payment for the TORcoin video campaign: (blockchain transaction ID) 42a403eb0651066b3009e00c801a1321b10954f6da6f3e66375581ce44766209

Put it into the viaBTC transaction accelerator and it says transaction does not exist? It has a decent fee (120.5 sat per byte), so what is the problem? I would appreciate any help, please and thank you!


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Foxpup on May 11, 2017, 02:32:53 AM
It is part of a chain of 56 unconfirmed transactions, none of which can confirm until the first one (ef43df70a69413ab2a4c58173af5b0754f8fa08c1148f125d79aecf6d616f387 (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/ef43df70a69413ab2a4c58173af5b0754f8fa08c1148f125d79aecf6d616f387)) does. Which they probably never will, since none of them pay anywhere near sufficient fees.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Lontongmie on May 11, 2017, 03:41:36 AM
It is part of a chain of 56 unconfirmed transactions, none of which can confirm until the first one (ef43df70a69413ab2a4c58173af5b0754f8fa08c1148f125d79aecf6d616f387 (https://blockexplorer.com/tx/ef43df70a69413ab2a4c58173af5b0754f8fa08c1148f125d79aecf6d616f387)) does. Which they probably never will, since none of them pay anywhere near sufficient fees.
Have I been scammed then?


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Foxpup on May 11, 2017, 04:01:20 AM
Have I been scammed then?
Probably. The sender has plenty of time to double-spend those transactions before they confirm, at which point you'll know for sure you've been scammed.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Lontongmie on May 11, 2017, 04:06:01 AM
Have I been scammed then?
Probably. The sender has plenty of time to double-spend those transactions before they confirm, at which point you'll know for sure you've been scammed.
The member in question is a legendary with green trust. Can you talk to him? I am sure we can get this sorted out!


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 11, 2017, 08:08:01 AM
Have I been scammed then?
Probably. The sender has plenty of time to double-spend those transactions before they confirm, at which point you'll know for sure you've been scammed.

I would need to cancel all my transactions and resend them?
How would I proceed with this?

The problem is with the first stuck transactions were paid a fee of 10% of the total amount sent, aka 0.00001BTC and can't be included in the accelerator
Later on I have increased the fee to 30% of the total amount which is good to include in the accelerator, however, I can't because the first transactions can't be entered.

What do I do?
They should confirm eventually, shouldn't they?  ???


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: onnz423 on May 11, 2017, 10:20:34 AM
Have I been scammed then?
Probably. The sender has plenty of time to double-spend those transactions before they confirm, at which point you'll know for sure you've been scammed.

I would need to cancel all my transactions and resend them?
How would I proceed with this?

The problem is with the first stuck transactions were paid a fee of 10% of the total amount sent, aka 0.00001BTC and can't be included in the accelerator
Later on I have increased the fee to 30% of the total amount which is good to include in the accelerator, however, I can't because the first transactions can't be entered.

What do I do?
They should confirm eventually, shouldn't they?  ???

Which wallet are you using? Atleast electrum has a CPFP(Child Pays For Parent) which allows you to resend the transaction with higher fee if you are in control of the wallet u sent the BTC to.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 11, 2017, 10:42:00 AM
Which wallet are you using? Atleast electrum has a CPFP(Child Pays For Parent) which allows you to resend the transaction with higher fee if you are in control of the wallet u sent the BTC to.

It was Blockchain  :(


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 11, 2017, 12:36:56 PM
The problem with these transactions is I have to pay these people out:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1907064.0

Which is 0.0001BTC transaction each and the reason why the fees are low is they were 10%, later I picked them up to 30%
If I were to send the recommended fee, it would be 3 times larger than the transaction

If I try to double-spend with higher fees, how high a fee should I pick?
Sending the recommended fee would be... Unpractical.
Is there a better way to solve this  ???


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Foxpup on May 11, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
It was Blockchain  :(
I suppose I was premature to assume malice over incompetence, but with Blockchain.info it's hard to tell the difference.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 11, 2017, 01:15:58 PM
It was Blockchain  :(
I suppose I was premature to assume malice over incompetence, but with Blockchain.info it's hard to tell the difference.

Yeah, yeah, nevermind, just tell me how to fix it :D

How do I send a 100 micropayments with bitcoin o.o

Will they confirm eventually?


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: onnz423 on May 11, 2017, 01:53:42 PM
It was Blockchain  :(
I suppose I was premature to assume malice over incompetence, but with Blockchain.info it's hard to tell the difference.

Yeah, yeah, nevermind, just tell me how to fix it :D

How do I send a 100 micropayments with bitcoin o.o

Will they confirm eventually?

Hey! Here is some details to send to many addresses:

First, download electrum from https://electrum.org/

Then install it normally and create a new wallet.

After installation go to -> Tools -> Preferences and untick "dynamic fees" and tick "edit fees manually".

Then you are ready to send in many from tools -> pay to many

Then you just enter details like this, for example if you wanted to send 0.0001 BTC to 3 different addresses you would just enter like this:

Code:
1NspBbg7Lds4JjbALT8hDgcQW1mMC4CMkq, 0.0001
125197Mo4FVHtyo6QoCQZcgsQY6sM2FCV2, 0.0001
1PnGV7ZtBiTr6iwn3vmG6nPWLgRt5AiMLi, 0.0001

Hope i was of help!


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: Foxpup on May 11, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
How do I send a 100 micropayments with bitcoin o.o
As I keep telling people, you can't and never could. Bitcoin isn't for micropayments.

Will they confirm eventually?
Unlikely, but you never know.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 11, 2017, 02:00:41 PM
I suppose I was premature to assume malice over incompetence, but with Blockchain.info it's hard to tell the difference.
Yeah, yeah, nevermind, just tell me how to fix it :D

How do I send a 100 micropayments with bitcoin o.o

You don't.

Bitcoin is not currently useful for micropayments.  The necessary transaction fees are too high for microtransactions to be practical.

You fix it by contacting someone like Quickseller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=358020) or macbook-air (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=16114) and convincing them to add the transactions to the blocks that the pool they have access to is solving.

In exchange, they ask you to pay the difference between what you paid as a fee and what you should have paid as a fee according to something like https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

It's going to be expensive to fix this.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 11, 2017, 02:03:41 PM
The member in question is a legendary with green trust.

This is meaningless.

Legendary accounts with green trust can be purchased.

Neither of those things are an indication that the user is knowledgeable or trustworthy.

In this case you found someone that purchased an account, but who wasn't knowledgeable about using bitcoin intelligently.

It is yet to be determined whether they are also not trustworthy.


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 11, 2017, 02:25:44 PM
The member in question is a legendary with green trust.

This is meaningless.

Legendary accounts with green trust can be purchased.

Neither of those things are an indication that the user is knowledgeable or trustworthy.

In this case you found someone that purchased an account, but who wasn't knowledgeable about using bitcoin intelligently.

It is yet to be determined whether they are also not trustworthy.

What the hell are you talking about
This isn't a bought account

I didn't send transactions as small as this for years
When I did, they went through without fees at all
No fee transactions would go through in one day
I knew the situation was different today,  I thought it would take a long time, but they would eventually go through aka. 3-4 days


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: DannyHamilton on May 11, 2017, 03:03:00 PM
It is yet to be determined whether they are also not trustworthy.
What the hell are you talking about
This isn't a bought account

Not bought?

Ok.  Perhaps just hacked again then?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800840.0


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 11, 2017, 03:25:46 PM
It is yet to be determined whether they are also not trustworthy.
What the hell are you talking about
This isn't a bought account

Not bought?

Ok.  Perhaps just hacked again then?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800840.0


First read then accuse
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1800840.msg18426834#msg18426834

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=772348.0

Address: 1GiCrkr2QDFSMVAxFCVoJaEVoq6d2uXbFc
Signed message:
11/5/2017.
Danny is a pompous bastard.
iluvbitcoins

Signature:
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009407.msg11522596#msg11522596

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11/5/2017      
I fucking hate stupid scaling issues
iluvbitcoins
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Don't think I was trying to insult you, the message was a joke :)

Anyways, I'm going to attempt this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycq7O48aPvQ
To send out all the bitcoins with appropriate fees..

Edit:
Managed to get my wallet out of limbo
https://blockchain.info/tx/1c6a6c36ec4782607f4aa53f92b44cd01e6262b082bca547ae98df5dbe602858
When my Armory syncs, will send out payments with major fees..


@Lontongmie  Paid


Title: Re: "Transaction does not exist?"
Post by: iluvbitcoins on May 15, 2017, 12:37:28 PM
I'd just like to write to whoever encounters such problems

The anwser to how do you send micropayments isn't "You don't"

It's send them all at once

https://blockchain.info/tx/75a3553ab8143bd69bc37d8c7b245b24cf0beee6c9fa3acc70c40c8766b604c2

With paying a 0.0069BTC fee putting it at 170 satoshi/byte I have sent over 0.018BTC in micropayments
Whereas sending 1 by 1 paying the same amount would be around 13 Satoshi/byte or so