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Title: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: andylittleton on May 11, 2017, 12:36:08 AM
Hi

I've been looking at the asserion gold digger but they are out of stock.
http://www.mountainmods.com/

 Is there any other mining cases I can get.  I preferred closed case or semi closed, Dont' want to use $3000 dollars with of video cards in a milk crate box looking all getto.

I am somewhat against open air case just b/c It looks like a science project, screwdrivers can accidently drop and fry your motherboard up, etc.  But im not totally against it if it's high quality build.

Any suggestions,
I want one with Good venting and fans and just good build quality.  Doesn't have to be flashy just fuctionional


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: sirslayer on May 11, 2017, 01:50:24 AM
 Well, Have you ever look into a HP dl585 server???  complete sets at $399 and up.. some models come with 4 x 1200 watts power supply for a total 4800 watts!!!  64 core are the higher end and with 4 x 16pcie and 7 x 8pcie in 16 slots  so you can fit 11 gpus cards at 16 x slots with built in power fans in a 4u server case with security in case some ones opens it.. here is a related model check it out

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Proliant-DL585-G7-48-Core-AMD-6172-2-10GHz-No-RAM-No-HDD-P410i-ILO3/182501834578?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dd9a15190cbf6485cb775a3dbd7870495%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D201915213363


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: sirslayer on May 11, 2017, 01:54:54 AM
and i forget that the HP dl585 is serviceable meaning you use thumb screws and its easy to take apart


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: sirslayer on May 11, 2017, 01:58:04 AM
and the slots add on a tray!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-DL585-G7-System-I-O-Board-667862-001-590471-002-with-667863-001-on-Tray-/172434967410?hash=item2825eccb72:g:eXQAAOSw-0xYZRSH


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: FlexDesign on August 30, 2017, 04:42:46 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921659.0

here is a link - nice cases and nice offers if you need one or two I have few ready to ship ASAP


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: CarlOrff on August 30, 2017, 04:59:39 PM
No one, sorry.
For mining operations H24 D7, you absolutely need a open air system.
If you choose a closed one, the hadware will be old very quick and issues due to hot temperetaure will come rapidly.


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: QuintLeo on August 30, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
How about that Rosewill "GPU mining" case?

 Less expensive than any non-open-frame alternative I've seen, though it does seem to have some minor limitations.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147270&cm_re=mining_case-_-11-147-270-_-Product

 Someone has a review thread on it in here somewhere.


 A closed case setup can keep cool if you have enough CFM of fans blowing air through it.
 Keep in mind that *ALL* recent ASIC miner designs are close-case type, and have a lot higher heat density than most GPU rigs ever thought about.



Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: 2dogs on August 30, 2017, 08:57:42 PM
Hi

I've been looking at the asserion gold digger but they are out of stock.
http://www.mountainmods.com/

 Is there any other mining cases I can get.  I preferred closed case or semi closed, Dont' want to use $3000 dollars with of video cards in a milk crate box looking all getto.

I am somewhat against open air case just b/c It looks like a science project, screwdrivers can accidently drop and fry your motherboard up, etc.  But im not totally against it if it's high quality build.

Any suggestions,
I want one with Good venting and fans and just good build quality.  Doesn't have to be flashy just fuctionional

Had the same question.
Open air invites more dust, dirt, etc. IMO.


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: Undefined31415 on August 30, 2017, 10:01:13 PM
I'm kinda partial to my somewhat ghetto file crate/misc. improved open-air setups (perhaps due, in part, to the IKEA effect), but you do you.

A closed case is probably a better fit if you have hazards such as pets or young children around, but accidentally destroying your rig by dropping things on it seems a little weird. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's done that at some point, though.

A large number of more powerful cards shoved together in a closed case may or may not end up being more noisy than an open case due to the additional [hopefully high-CFM] fans. I'm not sure if this falls under "functionality" for you, though.



Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: umine on August 30, 2017, 11:15:13 PM
.....

Had the same question.
Open air invites more dust, dirt, etc. IMO.

In good ventilated open case the dust is not accumulated but it's blowed out immediatelly. Of course closed case is more safe and suitable solution. But it's difficult to find manufactured cases for 8 or more GPUs unless to create it by own hands


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: Lumining on August 30, 2017, 11:26:08 PM
.....

Had the same question.
Open air invites more dust, dirt, etc. IMO.

In good ventilated open case the dust is not accumulated but it's blowed out immediatelly. Of course closed case is more safe and suitable solution. But it's difficult to find manufactured cases for 8 or more GPUs unless to create it by own hands

This is wrong, even the best ventilated cases can't help with the dust problem. When you're not mining in a closed room with filters on your ventilation, dust will enter the room and will also enter in your mkining equipment. It will sit between the heatspreders on the GPU's and after some time it will even stick to your fans.

I don't agree that a closed case is safer. The danger that the temperatures will surpass your limit are extremely high. I tried it myself and I made only bad experiences with putting GPU's too close together in a small area. The fire hazard will rise because the overall temperature inside your boy will easily go to 55° Celsius.
At that point, your fans will be running at max speed and they will be very noisy!

The best is to assure a maximum of fresh air for your cards, which means: get rid of the hot air and don't block the cold air.
The only real way to go is to have an open rig and the largest distance between the cards you can afford. Otherwise when summer kicks in with 30° outside in the shadow, you might risk that your miner will shut down because it gets too hot.


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: 2dogs on August 31, 2017, 06:23:49 AM
Don't some cases have built in air filters that can be removed to clean?
That helps with some of the dust, doesn't it?


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: ntsdm1 on August 31, 2017, 08:35:09 AM
there are many fully closed case that are GREAT!
and mine is almost airtight! no need for air circulation .
1080ti's water cooled dont heat up!


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: umine on August 31, 2017, 09:56:19 AM
Don't some cases have built in air filters that can be removed to clean?
That helps with some of the dust, doesn't it?

The dust is not a big problem for open cases. Just cleanup up they by compressor periodically (once or twice per year). But air filters can become a real problem because they can reduce air flow dramatically when contamined that will reasult in critical temeprature increasing


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: QuintLeo on August 31, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
Don't some cases have built in air filters that can be removed to clean?
That helps with some of the dust, doesn't it?

 Many do, though they tend to reduce airflow a LITTLE even if you keep them clean on a regular frequent basis.

 On the other hand, unless you are in a VERY HIGH dust enviroment with high humidity a no-case rig setup doesn't accumulate enough dust to matter for a long time.



Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: zer0k on September 01, 2017, 12:11:06 AM
Well, Have you ever look into a HP dl585 server???  complete sets at $399 and up.. some models come with 4 x 1200 watts power supply for a total 4800 watts!!!  64 core are the higher end and with 4 x 16pcie and 7 x 8pcie in 16 slots  so you can fit 11 gpus cards at 16 x slots with built in power fans in a 4u server case with security in case some ones opens it.. here is a related model check it out

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Proliant-DL585-G7-48-Core-AMD-6172-2-10GHz-No-RAM-No-HDD-P410i-ILO3/182501834578?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid%3D777003%26algo%3DDISCL.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%3Dd9a15190cbf6485cb775a3dbd7870495%26pid%3D100012%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D201915213363

DL585 does not support more than 4 GPU's :(
http://h20564.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c02723324&sp4ts.oid=4142793

OP is far better off getting Rosewill 4U chassis and founders edition cards.
I'm working on an 8 x 1080ti build right now, and will post to the forums when I get time to get it up and running :D


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: QuintLeo on September 01, 2017, 08:06:16 AM
Founder Edition cards do NOT have very good cooling - I would strongly recommend AGAINST them for mining usage.



Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: zer0k on September 01, 2017, 02:11:34 PM
Founder Edition cards do NOT have very good cooling - I would strongly recommend AGAINST them for mining usage.



In a closed case where air flow is managed front-to-back they actually have great cooling and are far superior to any aftermarket cooled cards.
Not to mention, you can fit them in closer because they are a 2-slot card/

Do this with aftermarket cards...

https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/10x-NVIDIA-GTX-1080-TI-FE-Plus-Mellanox-Top.jpg


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: dominuspro on September 01, 2017, 02:51:04 PM
Founder Edition cards do NOT have very good cooling - I would strongly recommend AGAINST them for mining usage.



In a closed case where air flow is managed front-to-back they actually have great cooling and are far superior to any aftermarket cooled cards.
Not to mention, you can fit them in closer because they are a 2-slot card/

Do this with aftermarket cards...

https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/10x-NVIDIA-GTX-1080-TI-FE-Plus-Mellanox-Top.jpg

I would never do this with any cards. I just cannot understand this approach... you have money for 10x ti and You cannot afford to use some more space?
Don't tell me that those fe in the picture are properly cooled...


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: zer0k on September 01, 2017, 03:06:04 PM
Founder Edition cards do NOT have very good cooling - I would strongly recommend AGAINST them for mining usage.



In a closed case where air flow is managed front-to-back they actually have great cooling and are far superior to any aftermarket cooled cards.
Not to mention, you can fit them in closer because they are a 2-slot card/

Do this with aftermarket cards...

https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/10x-NVIDIA-GTX-1080-TI-FE-Plus-Mellanox-Top.jpg

I would never do this with any cards. I just cannot understand this approach... you have money for 10x ti and You cannot afford to use some more space?
Don't tell me that those fe in the picture are properly cooled...

Of course they're properly cooled, and I'd bet they're running cooler than most peoples open air rigs, because they are in a data center that has AC, and are in a chassis that has been engineered with cooling that can handle the airflow required by FE cards. No one's going to risk the cost of 10 x 1080 ti cards without proper cooling!

This is the way things are done in the enterprise deep learning arena, and companies like Supermicro sell setups for 10 x Tesla cards, or consumer 1080 ti's work just fine:)
That picture is from a system with this chassis - https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4u/4028/sys-4028gr-tr.cfm (https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4u/4028/sys-4028gr-tr.cfm)


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: dominuspro on September 01, 2017, 06:55:43 PM

Of course they're properly cooled, and I'd bet they're running cooler than most peoples open air rigs, because they are in a data center that has AC, and are in a chassis that has been engineered with cooling that can handle the airflow required by FE cards. No one's going to risk the cost of 10 x 1080 ti cards without proper cooling!

This is the way things are done in the enterprise deep learning arena, and companies like Supermicro sell setups for 10 x Tesla cards, or consumer 1080 ti's work just fine:)
That picture is from a system with this chassis - https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4u/4028/sys-4028gr-tr.cfm (https://www.supermicro.com/products/system/4u/4028/sys-4028gr-tr.cfm)

No way... those gpus must be throttling hitting 80 or more °C when moderatly loaded with some minning or other processing stuff. I've just played too much with gpu's, cases, vents etc. to accept those statements.


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: QuintLeo on September 01, 2017, 06:59:48 PM
Founder Edition cards do NOT have very good cooling - I would strongly recommend AGAINST them for mining usage.



In a closed case where air flow is managed front-to-back they actually have great cooling and are far superior to any aftermarket cooled cards.
Not to mention, you can fit them in closer because they are a 2-slot card/

Do this with aftermarket cards...


 There are pics around of the ASUS blower-type card packed in JUST as tight - and they cool a little better but STILL NOT WELL when jammed in that close together.
 It doesn't matter how much airflow is going through the case, as most of the access to the cooling fan intake IS BLOCKED which restricts airflow through the card very badly.
 A rig like that REQUIRES low environmental temps to SURVIVE due to that issue - try running it at 95-100 F ambient like MY rigs do in the summer and you're talking thermal throttle or "shut down due to overheat" issues CONSTANTLY.
 Heck, try running a rig like that in the Yahoo "chicken coop" server farms and you're going to have the SAME issue, just not QUITE as bad, as those farms are designed to keep the intake to the racks at about 90F as I recall.

 That's why many "compute-specific cards" like Teslas and Firepros have an intake on the END of the card, so the air can flow through it without obstruction and don't bother with a fan at all, they rely on the CASE to provide massive airflow.



Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: namjey on September 01, 2017, 07:15:07 PM
how many gpus does your rig have? If it's more then 4 then go with server cases if 3 or less (like me) go with fractal define XL R2. This is HUGE pc case. It can easily hold 3 gpus attached directly to motherboard. The case comes with 3 fans and most importantly it has a removable air filters. The case also has manual fan speed controller which you can adjust depending on your room temperature. Also, the case has noise isolated walls, so it runs very quite. One thing to consider is the GPU temperature. You WILL have higher temp if you use closed cases. In overall this is great closed rig option if open rig is not suitable.


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: Undefined31415 on September 01, 2017, 07:36:51 PM
how many gpus does your rig have? If it's more then 4 then go with server cases if 3 or less (like me) go with fractal define XL R2. This is HUGE pc case. It can easily hold 3 gpus attached directly to motherboard. The case comes with 3 fans and most importantly it has a removable air filters. The case also has manual fan speed controller which you can adjust depending on your room temperature. Also, the case has noise isolated walls, so it runs very quite. One thing to consider is the GPU temperature. You WILL have higher temp if you use closed cases. In overall this is great closed rig option if open rig is not suitable.

Adding over $100 to a 3-card system gives a pretty hefty increase to your time to break even. If you planned on using that case later for other purposes, sure, but for a dedicated mining rig?

Also, I would hope that the OP has more than 3 cards in their rig. A premium case for a small dedicated mining rig seems unnecessary.


Title: Re: Best Closed or semi closed gpu mining case to get?
Post by: QuintLeo on September 01, 2017, 10:06:47 PM
how many gpus does your rig have? If it's more then 4 then go with server cases if 3 or less (like me) go with fractal define XL R2. This is HUGE pc case. It can easily hold 3 gpus attached directly to motherboard. The case comes with 3 fans and most importantly it has a removable air filters. The case also has manual fan speed controller which you can adjust depending on your room temperature. Also, the case has noise isolated walls, so it runs very quite. One thing to consider is the GPU temperature. You WILL have higher temp if you use closed cases. In overall this is great closed rig option if open rig is not suitable.

 Thermaltake V34 or V35, can add a couple of Delta 120x38 or 140x38 fans to the front just by unscrewing the HD cages (use the floppy drive mount cage to mount a drive).

 Can run *4* GPUs in this case on a motherboard like Phil's favorite Biostar or that AM4 board he posted earlier without having to mod the case at all (it's designed to handle 4 dual-width cards).

 Very nice case for the relatively low price.


 IMO though it's a lot better to go with open rigs, as they're a lot easier to keep cool - even for non-blower builds like I use and Phil generally prefers.