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Title: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: kirch on May 11, 2017, 12:47:30 AM
When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’: Iraqi boys tell harrowing tale of ISIL captivity, training

They made the captive children, malnourished and weak from hunger, fight over a single tomato. Then the Islamic State group militants told them, “In paradise, you’ll be able to eat whatever you want. But first you have to get to paradise, and you do that by blowing yourself up.”

The lesson was part of the indoctrination inflicted by the militants on boys from Iraq’s Yazidi religious minority after the extremist group overran the community’s towns and villages in northern Iraq. The group forced hundreds of boys, some as young as seven or eight, into training to become fighters and suicide bombers, infusing them with its murderous ideology.

Now boys who escaped captivity are struggling to regain some normalcy, living in camps for the displaced along with what is left of their families. After surviving beatings, watching horrific atrocities, being held for months or years apart from their parents, losing loved ones and narrowly escaping death themselves, they are plagued by nightmares, anxiety and outbursts of violence.

“Even here I’m still very afraid,” said 17-year-old Ahmed Ameen Koro, who spoke to The Associated Press in the sprawling Esyan Camp in northern Iraq, where he now lives with his mother, sister and a brother, the only surviving members of his family. “I can’t sleep properly because I see them in my dreams.”

https://www.rt.com/news/387872-stories-of-boys-who-fled-isis/


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Mometaskers on May 11, 2017, 07:12:50 PM
Horrible. These should have been the immigrants that were prioritized, not those douches that would attack policemen, burn trucks and molest girls. Instead, these people are still left in Iraq. Makes you wonder where all those "immigrants" came from.

Hopefully more of them get to tell their story to expose to the world what monsters these ISIS are. And also to show them how wrong they've been with processing refugees.

It is a sickening, corrupt ideology these... these things professed, the more people know about said ideologies, the more they'll be able to understand what's really at the center of this mess.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: gabmen on May 13, 2017, 09:46:41 AM
this is unacceptable. I wonder whats going through these bastards' minds involving even children. its crazy enough with what their doing beheading all these innocent people but to put children through these kind of experiences is a crime of the highest degree. hopefully these people can be stopped soon.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Proton2233 on May 13, 2017, 10:52:55 AM
Horrible. These should have been the immigrants that were prioritized, not those douches that would attack policemen, burn trucks and molest girls. Instead, these people are still left in Iraq. Makes you wonder where all those "immigrants" came from.

Hopefully more of them get to tell their story to expose to the world what monsters these ISIS are. And also to show them how wrong they've been with processing refugees.

It is a sickening, corrupt ideology these... these things professed, the more people know about said ideologies, the more they'll be able to understand what's really at the center of this mess.
It is wrong to approach this issue. Let me remind you that cheating unfaithful is not considered a sin in Islam. We don't know what's in the guy's head. If it passed the process of consciousness such as he said from childhood, he may be a potential terrorist. I'm generally against migration of Muslims. You can help them to build their own state, but not to take them from us.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Mometaskers on May 13, 2017, 01:34:43 PM
Horrible. These should have been the immigrants that were prioritized, not those douches that would attack policemen, burn trucks and molest girls. Instead, these people are still left in Iraq. Makes you wonder where all those "immigrants" came from.

Hopefully more of them get to tell their story to expose to the world what monsters these ISIS are. And also to show them how wrong they've been with processing refugees.

It is a sickening, corrupt ideology these... these things professed, the more people know about said ideologies, the more they'll be able to understand what's really at the center of this mess.
It is wrong to approach this issue. Let me remind you that cheating unfaithful is not considered a sin in Islam. We don't know what's in the guy's head. If it passed the process of consciousness such as he said from childhood, he may be a potential terrorist. I'm generally against migration of Muslims. You can help them to build their own state, but not to take them from us.

I believe you are referring to the much discussed taqqiya. Well, all is fair in love and war and though Europeans already forgot about it, these people apparently still haven't given up on their dream of dominating kuffars. Bin Laden picked the date 9-11 to refer to the Ottoman's last failed assault of Vienna where they were repulsed by the Poles. It's al-Qaeda's way of saying "We're back mofos and we'll continue where we last stopped".

Unfortunately, they don't have to do much anyway now. The Austrians tore down their gate and allowed the horse in.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Spendulus on May 14, 2017, 07:38:25 PM
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It is a sickening, corrupt ideology these... these things professed, the more people know about said ideologies, the more they'll be able to understand what's really at the center of this mess.

It's interesting that a number of Islam advocates on these forums are continually saying that we should blame the individual, not the religion, that "all religions are good and peaceful," and other things designed to fool silly Western Kaffirs.

Many Muslims consider "Islam is Perfect," thus any failings are those of the man not the religion.

Perhaps as an atheist these issues are clear to me. I don't have any obligation to consider Islam as perfect, and I don't have to consider the Bible as perfect, or even as the "word of God."

Islam is very, very unperfect. Because religions seek to have people believe ten impossible things every day, those who are faithful in Islam overlook it's evil and it's faults.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Slow death on May 14, 2017, 08:19:11 PM
Unbelievable what religion does to people

“I can’t sleep properly because I see them in my dreams.”


I had a serious car accident and I was traumatized for months, imagine suffering what these people suffer


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: wolfracer on May 14, 2017, 08:21:14 PM
They were always like this the people over those regions have a genetic profile and culture of violence im not surprised by hearing this kind of history.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: kidoseagle0312 on May 18, 2017, 03:47:13 PM
When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’: Iraqi boys tell harrowing tale of ISIL captivity, training

They made the captive children, malnourished and weak from hunger, fight over a single tomato. Then the Islamic State group militants told them, “In paradise, you’ll be able to eat whatever you want. But first you have to get to paradise, and you do that by blowing yourself up.”

The lesson was part of the indoctrination inflicted by the militants on boys from Iraq’s Yazidi religious minority after the extremist group overran the community’s towns and villages in northern Iraq. The group forced hundreds of boys, some as young as seven or eight, into training to become fighters and suicide bombers, infusing them with its murderous ideology.

Now boys who escaped captivity are struggling to regain some normalcy, living in camps for the displaced along with what is left of their families. After surviving beatings, watching horrific atrocities, being held for months or years apart from their parents, losing loved ones and narrowly escaping death themselves, they are plagued by nightmares, anxiety and outbursts of violence.

“Even here I’m still very afraid,” said 17-year-old Ahmed Ameen Koro, who spoke to The Associated Press in the sprawling Esyan Camp in northern Iraq, where he now lives with his mother, sister and a brother, the only surviving members of his family. “I can’t sleep properly because I see them in my dreams.”

https://www.rt.com/news/387872-stories-of-boys-who-fled-isis/
This is not good anyway,..they are abusing the children to their own self interest and they're just using just for the
Benefits of their own goal. This is totally horrible actually, and it must be stop anyway.


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Malsetid on May 18, 2017, 04:27:25 PM
Brainwashing kids this way is sickening to the highest degree. Kids should at the very least be enjoying their childhood and shouldn't be exposed to this kind of violence. Putting too much hate and anger in the hearts of children just to use them for the intent to harm others. It's unbelievable that people are capable of doing these things


Title: Re: When you grow up, you will blow yourself up’
Post by: Sithara007 on May 19, 2017, 05:32:10 AM
this is unacceptable. I wonder whats going through these bastards' minds involving even children. its crazy enough with what their doing beheading all these innocent people but to put children through these kind of experiences is a crime of the highest degree. hopefully these people can be stopped soon.

People who are brainwashed by religious propaganda will do anything. There are no limits. A few days back, there was a thread here, asking whether you would kill your child if god orders you to do so. And at least one of the users responded positively.