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Title: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: proudhon on April 30, 2013, 02:51:27 AM Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin. Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place. In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested. Here's my story.
I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011. A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining. My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me. I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash. I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011. I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading. The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me. This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash. The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out. I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end. At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content. I trolled on, just with less vitriol. As the project recovered I began to fight with myself. My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again. I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator. "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously. This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while. I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions. It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here. I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user. And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BTC Books on April 30, 2013, 02:57:12 AM Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin. Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place. In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested. Here's my story. I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011. A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining. My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me. I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash. I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011. I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading. The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me. This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash. The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out. I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end. At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content. I trolled on, just with less vitriol. As the project recovered I began to fight with myself. My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again. I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator. "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously. This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while. I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions. It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here. I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user. And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound. Good for you. Growth. But growth and wisdom is to be shared, no? Going away only compounds your loss... Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Rallye on April 30, 2013, 02:58:46 AM That takes some real balls to admit something like that. I applaud and respect you for that.
Cheers! Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: proudhon on April 30, 2013, 03:01:31 AM Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin. Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place. In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested. Here's my story. I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011. A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining. My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me. I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash. I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011. I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading. The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me. This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash. The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out. I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end. At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content. I trolled on, just with less vitriol. As the project recovered I began to fight with myself. My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again. I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator. "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously. This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while. I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions. It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here. I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user. And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound. Good for you. Growth. But growth and wisdom is to be shared, no? Going away only compounds your loss... I agree. I'm not going away from bitcoin or bitcointalk, I'm just leaving the trolling game and the speculation forum. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BIGMERVE on April 30, 2013, 03:14:53 AM I always knew you had a bunch of coin invested, otherwise there would be no point in you spending so much time trolling. Who will take over as lead troll on the forum now? It will seem like a piece missing if there's no one there to put us in our place.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: notme on April 30, 2013, 03:15:24 AM Dude.... quit giving a fuck about your community persona. Worry about yourself, and post what you think. Not what you think we want.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: notme on April 30, 2013, 03:17:23 AM I always knew you had a bunch of coin invested, otherwise there would be no point in you spending so much time trolling. Who will take over as lead troll on the forum now? It will seem like a piece missing if there's no one there to put us in our place. Down with bitcoin! Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: calian on April 30, 2013, 03:18:48 AM Hmm, I liked perma-bear Proudhon. That way one could alternately join or leave his team as desired. It's funny at about $235 all the stuff you'd been spouting since $20 or less all of a sudden started sounding really sane. Well, single digits for years... not so much.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: dalamchops on April 30, 2013, 03:19:11 AM this is bullish news
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BTC Books on April 30, 2013, 03:20:16 AM I agree. I'm not going away from bitcoin or bitcointalk, I'm just leaving the trolling game and the speculation forum. Actually, the spec Forum can use non-trolling input more than any other... I'll tell you something, proudhon - our stories with bitcoin are very similar. I turned on my first miner the last week of March '11 - although you were correct to start buying: you did so earlier than I. Eh. Hindsight. I'll share my terrible story though... When I was around twenty Reagan was president. Interest rates were insane and silver was spiking like a mohawk. I had some coin silver (I was working a cash register while studying physics): it was easy to find in change in those days. But I also made the greatest financial mistake of my life. For a lousy one thousand dollars, you could buy a CD at a bank, and they guaranteed you to be a millionaire when it matured. I forget how long that was: 30 years maybe? I could figure it out, but I hate interest calculations. It was paying over 17% though - locked in. And with the contempt of youth for anything that smacked of the staus quo, I passed. I even had the money... And yeah - those things change you. So when bitcoin tanked in June '11 I pretty much just blew it off. Maybe because that terrible mistake had already changed me as much as anything could; where money was concerned, anyway. I kept mining (occasionally at a theoretical loss) and well... fuck it, right? I'd already made up my mind about bitcoin, and I wasn't going to change it just because the shit crashed to damn near nothing for a few months. Think about it... Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BitcoinAshley on April 30, 2013, 03:27:00 AM *Applauds*
Thank you for sharing your story, proudhon; may others learn from it. Sometimes in the "speculation" subforum it's hard to remember that there's more to P2P cryptocurrency than just... the fiat price of Bitcoin in the present moment and future. A LOT more. I would do myself well to remind myself that, and bulls and bears alike need to learn this lesson many times over :D Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: oakpacific on April 30, 2013, 03:34:08 AM A crash is when Bitcoin shows its real strength, you know why a Bitcoin crash has to be so violent? Because the global stock can be moved into an exchange to be sold in a matter of hours. Fiats, on the other hand, takes a long time to arrive. Bitcoin amplifies the panic to sell to an extent that any early adopter who has survived until now probably is not interested in selling at all.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: NamelessOne on April 30, 2013, 03:38:23 AM I remember your apology quite well, hehe, I've always felt you were playing your forum character and having fun with it. Amusing to see that was exactly the case! Despite your extreme bearish posts, I will miss your presence, haha. ;D
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Frozenlock on April 30, 2013, 03:55:00 AM But... but... who's gonna be the inspiration around here?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BTC Books on April 30, 2013, 04:00:06 AM But... but... who's gonna be the inspiration around here?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TuFy0fcuw) I think evolve can manage that banner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39106.msg479353#msg479353 Check the date... ::) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Crypt_Current on April 30, 2013, 04:08:56 AM Hey guys, the market's getting too big and my trolling efforts are achieving diminishing returns. Thus, I've decided to move to Canadia and build a wind / solar powered ranch with my awesome bitcoin wealth I've achieved over the past couple years. I'll be raising Alpacas AND Llamas. Website where you can buy socks for LTC COMING SOON! Nirvana rules! Peace out errbody, -- Proudhon Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: solex on April 30, 2013, 04:09:29 AM Nice and honest piece, Proudhon.
I agree that constant focus on the speculation forum can lead to burnout. Perhaps the best thing to do is remember that this is a long-term project, so the short-term fluctuations in the fxrate are not important, just twists and turns in the road to Bitcoin's destination. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: evolve on April 30, 2013, 04:10:35 AM Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 30, 2013, 04:12:11 AM I've got you on Skype. You'll never escape.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Franktank on April 30, 2013, 04:16:37 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=31g0YE61PLQ
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: dave111223 on April 30, 2013, 04:30:28 AM Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: adamstgBit on April 30, 2013, 04:51:59 AM Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin. Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place. In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested. Here's my story. I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011. A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining. My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me. I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash. I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011. I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading. The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me. This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash. The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out. I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end. At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content. I trolled on, just with less vitriol. As the project recovered I began to fight with myself. My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again. I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator. "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously. This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while. I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions. It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here. I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user. And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound. Good for you. Growth. But growth and wisdom is to be shared, no? Going away only compounds your loss... I agree. I'm not going away from bitcoin or bitcointalk, I'm just leaving the trolling game and the speculation forum. http://www.thegirlsguidetobeer.com/Portals/100483/images/beer-cheers-toasting.jpg Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: arepo on April 30, 2013, 04:57:14 AM Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin. Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place. In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested. Here's my story. I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011. A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining. My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me. I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash. I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011. I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading. The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me. This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash. The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out. I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end. At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content. I trolled on, just with less vitriol. As the project recovered I began to fight with myself. My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again. I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator. "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously. This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while. I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions. It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here. I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user. And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound. having lurked since winter 2011, i can really appreciate this character development. thanks for sharing :) --arepo Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Geist on April 30, 2013, 05:07:23 AM https://i.imgur.com/RcHLX.gif
I've only been here since the recent crash, but I'm already sorry to see you go. I personally enjoyed reading you're conversations with the other members and it feels like the Speculation forum won't be the same without you. See you around. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: RationalSpeculator on April 30, 2013, 05:13:34 AM I never got to know you but heard your name mention many times. I think it's beautiful your turn around. It shows great character. :) Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Zangelbert Bingledack on April 30, 2013, 05:39:45 AM Sad to see you go...
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: YoYa on April 30, 2013, 09:30:55 AM Contrarian viewpoints are always welcome, and you served as a moderator of sorts during the recent bubble Proudhon, so please don't be shy when us trading idiots descend in to the next frenzy, it helps to have people who keep you grounded.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: ManBearPig on April 30, 2013, 09:31:50 AM Kudos to you Proudhon.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: smoothie on April 30, 2013, 09:38:53 AM 1. Anyone that needs to announce their leaving or coming is an attention whore. MNW yes you are this way too.
2. Your trolling, in my view, wasn't trolling at all. I honestly think you believed many of the things you posted (the bearish BS). 3. Thanks for the 1 BTC when Bitcoin hit $100 (see I can be nice) lol 4. Get over yourself. :P Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: xorglub on April 30, 2013, 09:52:01 AM Farewell Proudhon, you magnificent troll :)
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Zaih on April 30, 2013, 09:53:15 AM Perfect, just perfect :D Cya around bud :) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Tirapon on April 30, 2013, 10:02:32 AM 1. Anyone that needs to announce their leaving or coming is an attention whore. MNW yes you are this way too. 2. Your trolling, in my view, wasn't trolling at all. I honestly think you believed many of the things you posted (the bearish BS). 3. Thanks for the 1 BTC when Bitcoin hit $100 (see I can be nice) lol 4. Get over yourself. :P Something about pots and kettles... ??? Proudhon, thanks for the entertainment you've provided - I will be looking out for your posts elsewhere on the forum :) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: bitcon on April 30, 2013, 10:04:46 AM NO! proud, don't go! i love you, even though you have been so cynical about bitcoin over the past couple years i feel that you are an asset to the community and really look forward to meeting you at bitcoin-con '13 and we can reminisc about all the bearish times we've shared together!
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: smoothie on April 30, 2013, 10:05:43 AM 1. Anyone that needs to announce their leaving or coming is an attention whore. MNW yes you are this way too. 2. Your trolling, in my view, wasn't trolling at all. I honestly think you believed many of the things you posted (the bearish BS). 3. Thanks for the 1 BTC when Bitcoin hit $100 (see I can be nice) lol 4. Get over yourself. :P Something about pots and kettles... ??? LOL I figured this was coming. Where do you see a thread where I am posting about me coming or going or ARRIVING or DEPARTING and all the details about my self developing into a better person blah blah blah? Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: batcoin on April 30, 2013, 10:11:19 AM A Paraphrase Dear Forum, I am leaving the living room going to go out onto the garden and converse with your cousins for a while. Love, Proudhon Spec Forum Response http://www.netnax.net/imgs/rip/rip-poems10.gif Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Tirapon on April 30, 2013, 10:11:29 AM 1. Anyone that needs to announce their leaving or coming is an attention whore. MNW yes you are this way too. 2. Your trolling, in my view, wasn't trolling at all. I honestly think you believed many of the things you posted (the bearish BS). 3. Thanks for the 1 BTC when Bitcoin hit $100 (see I can be nice) lol 4. Get over yourself. :P Something about pots and kettles... ??? LOL I figured this was coming. Where do you see a thread where I am posting about me coming or going or ARRIVING or DEPARTING and all the details about my self developing into a better person blah blah blah? LOL Smoothie I don't think you need to make posts about your arriving or departing, people will know when you turn up and you won't leave until you've had the last troll... For the record I voted 'I like smoothie' in nkspace poll :) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: smoothie on April 30, 2013, 10:14:27 AM 1. Anyone that needs to announce their leaving or coming is an attention whore. MNW yes you are this way too. 2. Your trolling, in my view, wasn't trolling at all. I honestly think you believed many of the things you posted (the bearish BS). 3. Thanks for the 1 BTC when Bitcoin hit $100 (see I can be nice) lol 4. Get over yourself. :P Something about pots and kettles... ??? LOL I figured this was coming. Where do you see a thread where I am posting about me coming or going or ARRIVING or DEPARTING and all the details about my self developing into a better person blah blah blah? LOL Smoothie I don't think you need to make posts about your arriving or departing, people will know when you turn up and you won't leave until you've had the last troll... For the record I voted 'I like smoothie' in nkspace poll :) :-* muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: bitcon on April 30, 2013, 10:18:08 AM bears are always IN the forest, so they can never actually leave the forest.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: lebing on April 30, 2013, 10:28:45 AM http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/well_done_sir.gif
Kudos for having the balls to make a post like this. And welcome back to the light good sir. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Malawi on April 30, 2013, 10:34:45 AM They say that when the last bear turn bull, a crash is imminent.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: adamas on April 30, 2013, 10:44:49 AM They say that when the last bear turn bull, a crash is imminent. wise ;)Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Rampion on April 30, 2013, 10:47:57 AM Proudhon, you are too intelligent to get depressed over a crash. BTC is very prone to bubbles and crashes, as all commodity-like assets - this is even more true when the market is so ridiculously tiny. At the end, a crash is just an opportunity to invest in BTC, I really don't see the point in being depressed about them. There's still a long run before BTC definitely fails or wins.
Bitcoin is an exceptional idea, it empowers people, it gives freedom, it endangers the position of the filthiest scumbags on heart (financial corporations) - just work to strengthen BTC's economy and forget about the exchange rate and speculation. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Rampion on April 30, 2013, 10:50:15 AM And BTW: I always knew you are heavily invested in BTC. You like to play the "contrarian indicator": if you are wrong, you get rich; if you are right... Well, you are right ;)
You're just hedging in some sort of psychologically twisted way :D Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: afbitcoins on April 30, 2013, 11:12:54 AM So long and thanks for all the fish
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: adamas on April 30, 2013, 11:46:01 AM So long and thanks for all the fish https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104987.msg1160739#msg1160739Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: johnyj on April 30, 2013, 01:41:02 PM Nice move, speculation is a waste of time. The only thing I think valuable in speculation is risk management
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Transisto on April 30, 2013, 01:49:11 PM Happy to meat the new Proudhon.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: drawingthesun on April 30, 2013, 02:42:20 PM Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin. Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place. In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested. Here's my story. I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011. A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining. My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me. I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash. I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011. I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading. The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me. This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash. The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out. I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end. At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content. I trolled on, just with less vitriol. As the project recovered I began to fight with myself. My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again. I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator. "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously. This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while. I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions. It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here. I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user. And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound. Haha I always said you were invested in Bitcoin and probably had massive amounts, otherwise I couldn't imagine you being so bearish all the time and sticking around to remind us how much its all going to pop away. Its nice to be right about something once in a while. :) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: drawingthesun on April 30, 2013, 02:44:27 PM Nice move, speculation is a waste of time. The only thing I think valuable in speculation is risk management I don't think I have learned anything here, the speculation forum is just fun, the only thing more fun is the troll box over on BTC-E. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Cablez on April 30, 2013, 02:50:36 PM How did you guys miss this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUscKh5aeo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUscKh5aeo)
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Kupsi on April 30, 2013, 03:26:31 PM Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: FreddyFender on April 30, 2013, 05:40:23 PM From the moment I first saw Proudhon until today I can only say:
- You trolled, but gracefully so. - No malice, just intense glee! - No Fucks were givens. - You left a trail of frightened children and soiled shorts. ...Could you please take your entourage with you? PS. and what about this pile of dirty socks everywhere? :D Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: bitcon on April 30, 2013, 05:46:32 PM he'll be back.
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: wachtwoord on April 30, 2013, 05:51:38 PM Perfect, just perfect :D Cya around bud :) So much this :) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: smoothie on April 30, 2013, 05:53:25 PM Perfect, just perfect :D Cya around bud :) So much this :) so gay.. ::) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Qoheleth on April 30, 2013, 06:02:57 PM I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction. That explains a lot, actually.Best wishes! Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Krabby on April 30, 2013, 06:14:42 PM Be happy in the fact that we will all still see your face every time we go to a petting zoo…
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BitSmile on April 30, 2013, 06:17:21 PM I love you prodhon!
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: jubalix on April 30, 2013, 11:45:55 PM good show what
I only wish I was mining back then/buying (I tried to buy but from where I was it was impossible at the time....I spent days trying...!) I think this is why I went in with the view I was prepared to burn every single fiat dollar I invest, then even if it goes to zero...it will not upset me, in fact its just a buying opportunity, although perhaps in the "usurper" coin Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Bennmann on May 01, 2013, 12:07:39 AM 10/10, would Proudhon again.
Thank you for all your content. Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Malawi on May 01, 2013, 05:59:55 PM Be happy in the fact that we will all still see your face every time we go to a petting zoo… Regular petting og heavy petting? Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: XXthetimeisnowXX on May 01, 2013, 06:14:35 PM like i said ......for users over one year....this is getting old :P
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: checkers6676 on May 01, 2013, 06:17:20 PM did someone hack proudhon's forum account?
Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: 420 on June 19, 2013, 08:29:33 PM well took me a while to find this thread
but goodbye for now proudhorn! Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: BitcoinAshley on June 19, 2013, 10:35:43 PM BRING BACK PROUDHON!
LONG LIVE PROUDHON 8) Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: notme on June 20, 2013, 12:13:19 AM BRING BACK PROUDHON! LONG LIVE PROUDHON 8) +21000000 It's not the same anymore :( Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: FreddyFender on June 20, 2013, 08:48:34 PM BRING BACK PROUDHON! I blame you for the loss of all the horrible bear/shills we hold so dear; direct result of chasing them down through countless threads and smashing their logicless rants to pieces.LONG LIVE PROUDHON 8) I get the feeling that Ashley's sock drawer is stuffed full of all the dead troll-piles she has decimated. Nothing but dryer fuzz and sockless holes left! ***I hear if you say his name backwards 7 times he will reappear and say something snarky about the volatility of Bitcoin. No, H-Duorp! No, H-Duorp! No, H-Duorp! No, H-Duorp!No, H-Duorp! No, H-Duorp!No, H-Duorp! ...nope... Title: Re: I think it's time for me to move on Post by: Hyena on June 20, 2013, 10:16:54 PM this whole trolling thing is starting to get old..
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