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Title: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming 27th June)
Post by: AFox on May 16, 2017, 10:11:11 PM
Hello,

Radeon revealed there first Vega card.
It is coming late June for the scientific/enterprise market.
It seems to be using two PCI-E 8 pins connectors for the power (image) (https://i.imgur.com/pyt1lRy.png)

What do you think the performance for mining will be ?
And the price ?


https://i.imgur.com/SuJ840k.png
https://i.imgur.com/X9Yo41f.png
https://i.imgur.com/pGyjvly.png
https://i.imgur.com/EGISho0.png



Edit : AMD just launched their Radeon Vega Frontier Edition card. It is a 'mission intelligent' enterprise graphics card for professional usage (data-crunching) and product designers, and yes it is not for PC gamers.
The card comes with 16 GB of HBM2 graphics memory and will perform in the 13 TFLOP (fp32) performance bracket. It will be available late June.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-launches-radeon-vega-frontier-edition.html (http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-launches-radeon-vega-frontier-edition.html)
Edit 2 : Posted "Today at 11:11:11 PM" :D


Edit 3 (2017/05/31) :
Release date : 27th June
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11481/vegafe.png


Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: fuzion1 on May 17, 2017, 12:52:40 AM
Here is an article with pricing rumors

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/amd-rx-vega-nova-specs


Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: KaydenC on May 17, 2017, 01:06:29 AM
Strictly comparing raw Tflops and mem bandwidth

1080ti = 11.3tflops, 484gb/s
Rx Vega FE = 13 tflops, 480gb/s


So the FE vega that's priced for prosumers is slightly faster than a stock 1080ti. It has 2x 8 pin which may mean more power consumption.
I think I'll consider it if it's $699 or less.



Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: leowonderful on May 17, 2017, 07:30:55 PM
Pricing isnt so high it's not worth using for gaming, I'm interested to see what AMD releases "for gamers" and if it'll be significantly weaker or something like that. What they're suggesting is that their gaming cards will be weaker than this, which is a little disappointing for me (I just hope their other Vega cards will at least try to take a hit at the 1080 or 1070- go team red!). I'm interested in mining performance, though, like the rest of you guys. I expect a few MH above what the Fury does and less power.


Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: jstefanop on May 17, 2017, 07:50:00 PM
These wont be viable for mining...Your probably looking in the 1K+ range per card with HBM2 16GB stack...and eth mining in the 40-60 MH range. You can buy 5-6 570s for the price of one of these.


Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: leowonderful on May 17, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
These wont be viable for mining...Your probably looking in the 1K+ range per card with HBM2 16GB stack...and eth mining in the 40-60 MH range. You can buy 5-6 570s for the price of one of these.
It's a curiosity like the R9 295X2 or Fury cards. They weren't made for a budget user but it looks interesting and I might consider adding this to my card museum. They're not budget cards, again, I just want to know how Vega will perform, and this first Vega card will provide a good look into how the rest of the card range does.


Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: QuintLeo on May 18, 2017, 12:00:51 PM
Trying to compare on the basis of flops is meaningless - mining is strictly integer operations and shifts/rotates, with ZERO floating point work.

 Come up with a count on cores, and a clock rate, and it might be possible to come up with a semi-vaguely-ballpark-accurate guess as to mining capabilities.


 I suspect the "Frontier" is going to be AMD's answer to the NVidia Titan line - and NOT cost effective at all for much of anything.



Title: Re: Radeon Vega Frontier Edition, what to expect ? (1st Vega Card, coming late June)
Post by: AFox on May 31, 2017, 04:04:33 AM
Release date : 27th June
Price : Unknown
TDP : around 300watts
http://images.anandtech.com/doci/11481/vegafe.png

https://i.imgur.com/0EVLt4q.png

In mining, one Nvidia GP100 is usually as fast as 2.5 RX480.
If I take a retail price of ~250€ for one RX480, and assume that the mining power of a Radeon Frontier Edition is equal to a Nvidia GP100, that tell us that if the card retails at more then ~650 to 700€ it's not worth to buy it.