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Title: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 17, 2017, 08:35:32 AM
Is this question the ultimate blasphemy to dare to compare?  however look

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If the goal is not to forget, but at the same time being unable to see the same patterns return, it's useless.


So what's going on with "conservative"

Censorship - check ( and with it ad revenued - check)
Constant demonization - check
Exclusion from movie / series - check
Identified in database - check

Things yet to accomplish

0 access to communication - in progress but it's not 1930
Visual markers - not planned

Anyway some stayed...

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Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: criptix on May 17, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
So god trump is hitler eh? ^^"


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 18, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
So god trump is hitler eh? ^^"

Closer to a stupid jew that believe in

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Or that censorship can be controlled...

The problem is that the "conservatives" are sick people... what the fuck with abortions, plants etc... in total opposition to the principles of the declaration of independance, the constitution and the bill of rights. Left and right are the floor and roof trying to confine humanity in servitude. Like the owned coins made to enslave.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 18, 2017, 08:24:24 AM
So what's going on with "conservative"

Censorship - check ( and with it ad revenued - check)
Constant demonization - check
Exclusion from movie / series - check
Identified in database - check

Things yet to accomplish

0 access to communication - in progress but it's not 1930
Visual markers - not planned


It's not a blasphemy, it's just a mix of pure stupidity and arrogance.

Censorship: wtf? How exactly are you getting censored? I keep seeing conservatives on TV all the time in fact there are ONLY conservatives people! Never saw anything but liberal economists and in my country the extreme right conservatives are ALWAYS in the spotlight... While claiming they're getting censored of course...

Constant demonization: demonization... Sure... let's compare the propaganda against jews with drawings of them in public display representing them with evil eyes big noses and the incarnation of greed to... To whatever I don't even see what you're talking about...

Exclusion from movie/series: whaaaaaaaaaat? WHAAAAAAAAAT? WTF MAN? You want movies with a hero saying what? "I'm a conservative and I support the closure of our national borders"?? This doesn't even make sense xD

Identified in database: ok this one is true at least. But it's true for everyone: cosnervatives, liberals, royalists, anarchists... We're all in voters database now.


Please try to take some time to read yourself... Try to find examples of what you're saying, it will help you seeing how it doesn't make any sense.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 18, 2017, 08:25:39 AM
Oh and the most important thing that makes your argument a pure bullshit smelling puke is that Jews were refused CIVIL RIGHTS.

You have any example of conservatives having less right than not-conservatives?


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 18, 2017, 08:40:01 AM
Ahahah!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEdv1LRqb97UMAnLy/giphy.gif?response_id=591d5c626677596d8b73c191

EZ to trigger!

Oh and the most important thing that makes your argument a pure bullshit smelling puke is that Jews were refused CIVIL RIGHTS.

You have any example of conservatives having less right than not-conservatives?

Yes for example in plant usage, some have been made illegals. But you know i have no interest to discuss anything with you. There are more interesting issue to discuss among the Han "tribe".

So what's going on with "conservative"

Censorship - check ( and with it ad revenued - check)
Constant demonization - check
Exclusion from movie / series - check
Identified in database - check

Things yet to accomplish

0 access to communication - in progress but it's not 1930
Visual markers - not planned


It's not a blasphemy, it's just a mix of pure stupidity and arrogance.

Censorship: wtf? How exactly are you getting censored? I keep seeing conservatives on TV all the time in fact there are ONLY conservatives people! Never saw anything but liberal economists and in my country the extreme right conservatives are ALWAYS in the spotlight... While claiming they're getting censored of course...

Constant demonization: demonization... Sure... let's compare the propaganda against jews with drawings of them in public display representing them with evil eyes big noses and the incarnation of greed to... To whatever I don't even see what you're talking about...

Exclusion from movie/series: whaaaaaaaaaat? WHAAAAAAAAAT? WTF MAN? You want movies with a hero saying what? "I'm a conservative and I support the closure of our national borders"?? This doesn't even make sense xD

Identified in database: ok this one is true at least. But it's true for everyone: cosnervatives, liberals, royalists, anarchists... We're all in voters database now.


Please try to take some time to read yourself... Try to find examples of what you're saying, it will help you seeing how it doesn't make any sense.

LoL again. You would have ended there.

Edit: you aren't a chosen people. Never have, never will.

And remeber here it's freespeech because we know what they do.



Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 18, 2017, 10:18:55 AM
Ahahah!

EZ to trigger!
Hmm... I'm answering you that's all. If anyone that answers you is triggered that's complicated to discuss with you :/
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Oh and the most important thing that makes your argument a pure bullshit smelling puke is that Jews were refused CIVIL RIGHTS.

You have any example of conservatives having less right than not-conservatives?

Yes for example in plant usage, some have been made illegals. But you know i have no interest to discuss anything with you. There are more interesting issue to discuss among the Han "tribe".
Well if you have no interest to show arguments I understand that you'd rather not discuss with me ^^
I don't know what's the Han tribe though.

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So what's going on with "conservative"

Censorship - check ( and with it ad revenued - check)
Constant demonization - check
Exclusion from movie / series - check
Identified in database - check

Things yet to accomplish

0 access to communication - in progress but it's not 1930
Visual markers - not planned


It's not a blasphemy, it's just a mix of pure stupidity and arrogance.

Censorship: wtf? How exactly are you getting censored? I keep seeing conservatives on TV all the time in fact there are ONLY conservatives people! Never saw anything but liberal economists and in my country the extreme right conservatives are ALWAYS in the spotlight... While claiming they're getting censored of course...

Constant demonization: demonization... Sure... let's compare the propaganda against jews with drawings of them in public display representing them with evil eyes big noses and the incarnation of greed to... To whatever I don't even see what you're talking about...

Exclusion from movie/series: whaaaaaaaaaat? WHAAAAAAAAAT? WTF MAN? You want movies with a hero saying what? "I'm a conservative and I support the closure of our national borders"?? This doesn't even make sense xD

Identified in database: ok this one is true at least. But it's true for everyone: cosnervatives, liberals, royalists, anarchists... We're all in voters database now.


Please try to take some time to read yourself... Try to find examples of what you're saying, it will help you seeing how it doesn't make any sense.

LoL again. You would have ended there.

Edit: you aren't a chosen people. Never have, never will.

And remeber here it's freespeech because we know what they do.
You're actually the one trying to pose as a "chosen people". You're the one trying to split "conservatives" whatever that's supposed to mean from the rest of the population.

It's freespeech sure, that's why I take the time to answer your bullshit with arguments. Freespeech means you can say what you want, not that you won't be pointed at by people saying how false and stupid your reasonning is :)


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: gabmen on May 18, 2017, 10:26:09 AM
I don't think so.  the repercussuions back then were a lot more harsh than today. a lot of people are being killed in the open and you can't say or do something about it without the threat of getting the same punishment.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 18, 2017, 10:42:53 AM
Being a conservative in the United States is extremely risky now. And the risk is especially significant, if you happen to be a white male. Remember the POTUS elections of 2016? After the results came out, houses displaying Trump signboards were widely vandalized across many of the black-dominated cities, such as Atlanta, Los Angeles and Chicago. Remember the attack on the special needs individual in Chicago?


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 18, 2017, 11:25:08 AM
Ahahah!

EZ to trigger!
Hmm... I'm answering you that's all. If anyone that answers you is triggered that's complicated to discuss with you :/
Quote

Oh and the most important thing that makes your argument a pure bullshit smelling puke is that Jews were refused CIVIL RIGHTS.

You have any example of conservatives having less right than not-conservatives?

Yes for example in plant usage, some have been made illegals. But you know i have no interest to discuss anything with you. There are more interesting issue to discuss among the Han "tribe".
Well if you have no interest to show arguments I understand that you'd rather not discuss with me ^^
I don't know what's the Han tribe though.

Quote

So what's going on with "conservative"

Censorship - check ( and with it ad revenued - check)
Constant demonization - check
Exclusion from movie / series - check
Identified in database - check

Things yet to accomplish

0 access to communication - in progress but it's not 1930
Visual markers - not planned


It's not a blasphemy, it's just a mix of pure stupidity and arrogance.

Censorship: wtf? How exactly are you getting censored? I keep seeing conservatives on TV all the time in fact there are ONLY conservatives people! Never saw anything but liberal economists and in my country the extreme right conservatives are ALWAYS in the spotlight... While claiming they're getting censored of course...

Constant demonization: demonization... Sure... let's compare the propaganda against jews with drawings of them in public display representing them with evil eyes big noses and the incarnation of greed to... To whatever I don't even see what you're talking about...

Exclusion from movie/series: whaaaaaaaaaat? WHAAAAAAAAAT? WTF MAN? You want movies with a hero saying what? "I'm a conservative and I support the closure of our national borders"?? This doesn't even make sense xD

Identified in database: ok this one is true at least. But it's true for everyone: cosnervatives, liberals, royalists, anarchists... We're all in voters database now.


Please try to take some time to read yourself... Try to find examples of what you're saying, it will help you seeing how it doesn't make any sense.

LoL again. You would have ended there.

Edit: you aren't a chosen people. Never have, never will.

And remeber here it's freespeech because we know what they do.
You're actually the one trying to pose as a "chosen people". You're the one trying to split "conservatives" whatever that's supposed to mean from the rest of the population.

It's freespeech sure, that's why I take the time to answer your bullshit with arguments. Freespeech means you can say what you want, not that you won't be pointed at by people saying how false and stupid your reasonning is :)

I didn't wanted you to feel sad. You are right free dpeech is about it exactly. However the false conservative/progressive divide will crumble... so many splinter group in one or the others.

It's sad too to see you forget how many "conservatives" have been censored...

The real question however is to find exactly where in the cycle the usa. But again it's easy when the only word that conservative have is jail. Look as session, at pence, if they aren't loaded in cwx or geo it's their associates.

So mass incarceration capabilities - check (even if it's yet a specific skin color group that is there).

For me it's way before crystal night. And more importantly how is it trending?



Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 18, 2017, 11:33:13 AM
I didn't wanted you to feel sad. You are right free dpeech is about it exactly. However the false conservative/progressive divide will crumble... so many splinter group in one or the others.
Then why are you trying to split conservatives and others by saying they're persecuted? :/
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It's sad too to see you forget how many "conservatives" have been censored...
I don't forget, I've never heard of them. Please be my guest and give examples.
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The real question however is to find exactly where in the cycle the usa. But again it's easy when the only word that conservative have is jail. Look as session, at pence, if they aren't loaded in cwx or geo it's their associates.

So mass incarceration capabilities - check (even if it's yet a specific skin color group that is there).

For me it's way before crystal night. And more importantly how is it trending?

What? Last time I checked prisons weren't really filled with "conservatives"... more with poor people whatever there political orientation.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 18, 2017, 11:59:00 AM
Because they are at the early stage of the process and it's not too late to reverse it.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/02/08/twitters-attempt-to-silence-generation-trump/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/11/15/twitter-suspends-alt-right-accounts/93943194/

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/twitter-just-permanently-suspended-conservative-writer-milo

http://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/303295-how-facebook-twitter-are-systematically-silencing-conservative

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/may/09/facebook-newsfeed-censor-conservative-news

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/computers/item/26021-how-google-censors-the-new-american-and-other-conservatives

https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/facebook-promises-improvements-after-removing-conservative-p

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8285/nine-minutes-cnn-cutting-guests-who-dare-critcize-chase-stephens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYRN8Clddw

10 minutes compilations of cnn censorship...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/were-done-cnn-cuts-off-conservative-guests-microphone/article/2578958

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017/march/students-at-vermont-college-protest-conservative-speaker-assault-professor

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/conservative-radio-host-michael-savage-assaulted-bloodied-outside-san-francisco-restaurant/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/26/video-shows-leftist-activist-attacking-conservative-college-students.html

As i said it's not the train to dachau! But still... i hope it's enough examples (milo or ann coulter).

About jails it's mostly blacks.

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Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: ridery99 on May 18, 2017, 12:17:57 PM
Yes America is very hostile environment for normal people. All kinds of sex perverts and sodomites are running around and attacking peaceful way of life and everything rational.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 18, 2017, 01:13:36 PM



So 2 important things:
1/ All this "censorship" is made on privately owned media... Aren't you the first to claim that state is too much involved in private companies already? xD

2/ The number of incarcerated are higher and higher but... They're not conservatives so what's the link with your affirmation?

Because we perfectly agree on the fact that having privately owned prisons with a contract saying the prisons MUST be filled with prisoners is the worst possible idea.

I just don't see the link with "conservatives being attacked like jews"


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Malsetid on May 18, 2017, 01:31:58 PM
Yes America is very hostile environment for normal people. All kinds of sex perverts and sodomites are running around and attacking peaceful way of life and everything rational.
Perhaps you're right though I don't think it can be compared to how it was for the Jews. At least today we can still voice out our disapprovals without have ourselves shot and executed. I don't think Trump means for this also the way the Germans prosecuted the Jews. It's a far cry from 1930


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: joebrook on May 18, 2017, 05:45:48 PM
You know most people would have thought that it was rather conservatives who should be acting this way but the liberals who say that they are open minded are the one performing such despicable acts just because they didnt get their way like babies. But the situation doesnt compare to Hitlers time in Germany, those were dark days and i think the liberals who go as far as killing other americans just because they share different political opinions.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 18, 2017, 09:38:22 PM
First of all a quick reminder, as not to forget, the nazis took power in 1933. The post compare the situation to 1930, so before it's too late.




So 2 important things:
1/ All this "censorship" is made on privately owned media... Aren't you the first to claim that state is too much involved in private companies already? xD

2/ The number of incarcerated are higher and higher but... They're not conservatives so what's the link with your affirmation?

Because we perfectly agree on the fact that having privately owned prisons with a contract saying the prisons MUST be filled with prisoners is the worst possible idea.

I just don't see the link with "conservatives being attacked like jews"

1) in a sense you are right, bit it's specifically the problem. Gov involvement with specific media, legitimazing them. And then the question of access to fiat funding. But as I said, for me it's more a part of the people that has moved to oppression. But all in all you are right. It's an inappropriate unsenstive post. I listen to this expression and just repeated it like an idiot because i found it illustrating a point that is still valid. There is a big coordinated movement by private corporation and citizen to deligitimaze and ridicule a big part of the people, with for some using even censoriship in schools. Independantly of the support side, i don't rememeber conservative attacking liberal in an individual manners (conservatives prefer to have state agents do the jailing for them).

2) already answered

Still even if not appropriate, simply because comparing a situation almost 100 years old to today reality is utterly stupidd, but there is this hive mind getting stronger... this neosocialmarxist movement (from gmo, to vaccine, to climate change, to united nations, sdr, mass migrations  etc as saviors) is advancing.

And i repeat it's 1930 comparison, so before the nazi took control. There is still time. I am sure a discussion similar to this one happened there. Imagine how much could have changed.

Yes America is very hostile environment for normal people. All kinds of sex perverts and sodomites are running around and attacking peaceful way of life and everything rational.
Perhaps you're right though I don't think it can be compared to how it was for the Jews. At least today we can still voice out our disapprovals without have ourselves shot and executed. I don't think Trump means for this also the way the Germans prosecuted the Jews. It's a far cry from 1930
Yes America is very hostile environment for normal people. All kinds of sex perverts and sodomites are running around and attacking peaceful way of life and everything rational.
Perhaps you're right though I don't think it can be compared to how it was for the Jews. At least today we can still voice out our disapprovals without have ourselves shot and executed. I don't think Trump means for this also the way the Germans prosecuted the Jews. It's a far cry from 1930

I think there a lot of similarities. for those whose income from youtube has been cut they have learned a valuable teaching...

You know most people would have thought that it was rather conservatives who should be acting this way but the liberals who say that they are open minded are the one performing such despicable acts just because they didnt get their way like babies. But the situation doesnt compare to Hitlers time in Germany, those were dark days and i think the liberals who go as far as killing other americans just because they share different political opinions.

It's 3 years before... for now it's violence... specially in campus. Is it safer to wear an isis flag or an israeli one? A trump cap or hillary cap?

Conclusion: stupid title, stupid comparison, and with hope will not happen.

Gommon sense, common ground.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 19, 2017, 05:11:19 AM

If they want to stay out of the prisons, then they should behave properly in the public and refrain from committing crimes. You can't expect the law enforcement authorities to free a black murderer or rapist, just because he happens to be non-white.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Masha Sha on May 19, 2017, 05:22:36 AM

If they want to stay out of the prisons, then they should behave properly in the public and refrain from committing crimes. You can't expect the law enforcement authorities to free a black murderer or rapist, just because he happens to be non-white.

If you criminalize a natural human behaviors, psychoactives use, you Know what will happen. Amyway, the spice flow... there is no way to defeat it: the bigger the risk the higher the reward... it's mathematical. And as it's a consent full activities by all parties in the trade 100% victimless, the state opposition only improve the resiliance of the trade. It's just a question of the price to compensate for the risks. Look at chirak, there is money, there is spices.

Remember the market can easly compensate for all risks. And then you add foreign actors who want to grab a part of this lucrative trade and you get that it has to become an agency war. There is no way to defeat the market. An expression of the will of man, through value pricing.

Legalize all psychoactives and see the incarceration rate per race equalize, at least it's the theory:).


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 19, 2017, 10:12:00 AM
First of all a quick reminder, as not to forget, the nazis took power in 1933. The post compare the situation to 1930, so before it's too late.




So 2 important things:
1/ All this "censorship" is made on privately owned media... Aren't you the first to claim that state is too much involved in private companies already? xD

2/ The number of incarcerated are higher and higher but... They're not conservatives so what's the link with your affirmation?

Because we perfectly agree on the fact that having privately owned prisons with a contract saying the prisons MUST be filled with prisoners is the worst possible idea.

I just don't see the link with "conservatives being attacked like jews"

1) in a sense you are right, bit it's specifically the problem. Gov involvement with specific media, legitimazing them. And then the question of access to fiat funding. But as I said, for me it's more a part of the people that has moved to oppression. But all in all you are right. It's an inappropriate unsenstive post. I listen to this expression and just repeated it like an idiot because i found it illustrating a point that is still valid. There is a big coordinated movement by private corporation and citizen to deligitimaze and ridicule a big part of the people, with for some using even censoriship in schools. Independantly of the support side, i don't rememeber conservative attacking liberal in an individual manners (conservatives prefer to have state agents do the jailing for them).

2) already answered

Still even if not appropriate, simply because comparing a situation almost 100 years old to today reality is utterly stupidd, but there is this hive mind getting stronger... this neosocialmarxist movement (from gmo, to vaccine, to climate change, to united nations, sdr, mass migrations  etc as saviors) is advancing.

And i repeat it's 1930 comparison, so before the nazi took control. There is still time. I am sure a discussion similar to this one happened there. Imagine how much could have changed.

Wahou
Someone admitting they were wrong on the forum...
Never saw that. Even myself I'm not apologizing easily.

All in all you might be right that something is happening.
But I'd say that it's not a question of conservatives and liberals. Mostly a question of those who understands why capitalism must be stoped and then others.
(And wanting capitalism to stop doesn't mean wanting socialism, simply understanding that shit is going to hit the fan)


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2017, 10:37:58 AM
Germany is and was a nation with a civil law government. This means that the government is and was dictator over the people. Laws can and could only be changed by a slow process. Such change was difficult to make with a strong central group attempting to keep the change from happening.

America is different. Right in the foundational laws of Amendments 6, 7, 9, and 10, the control of Government is left up to the people. Control can be changed by any 12-person jury. A strong central Government group can't resist the jury because the jury can use the foundation of Government to break the group. And a jury can come into being any time, anywhere in the whole country, making it difficult to quell the jury.

If the jury doesn't form, it is because people are, in general, accepting of the things that the central Government is doing. As long as the jury doesn't change things, the American Government acts as a civil Government like Germany.

Completely different forms of governments between America and Germany.

8)


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: freedomno1 on May 19, 2017, 10:43:43 AM

If they want to stay out of the prisons, then they should behave properly in the public and refrain from committing crimes. You can't expect the law enforcement authorities to free a black murderer or rapist, just because he happens to be non-white.

In this case we found a common ground between the white low-skill worker who used to be able to raise a family right out of high-school in the trades and a black person who was raised without a vast skill set and that is that international trade agreements took away their jobs.
Without an income they resort to crime because the economy cannot find a job that matches their skill-sets.

That said the US does stereotype trends and data still the root cause is a lack of opportunities and the places with opportunities cost to much to live in hence low cost housing = ghetto = low job creation. 


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 19, 2017, 11:28:34 AM
Legalize all psychoactives and see the incarceration rate per race equalize, at least it's the theory:).

No. That is not going to happen. You check these stats (although they are inflated for whites by considering Hispanics as part of the white race):

http://quadrant.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/US-crime-stats.jpg


As you can see, blacks who are just around 13% of the population commits even more murders than whites and Hispanics combined (almost 80% of the population).


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: craked5 on May 19, 2017, 03:30:26 PM
Legalize all psychoactives and see the incarceration rate per race equalize, at least it's the theory:).

No. That is not going to happen. You check these stats (although they are inflated for whites by considering Hispanics as part of the white race):

http://quadrant.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/US-crime-stats.jpg


As you can see, blacks who are just around 13% of the population commits even more murders than whites and Hispanics combined (almost 80% of the population).

COULD IT BE LINKED TO SOMETHING ELSE?
I mean could it be because they're something else than blac?
Let's see... What could it be... Is there a reason vor theft and violence...

Oh I know! Maybe poverty!
http://blackdemographics.com/households/poverty/

Tss... Blacks comit more crimes simply because they're poorer. The most your poor the more likely you are to commit crimes...


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 20, 2017, 03:23:10 AM
Tss... Blacks comit more crimes simply because they're poorer. The most your poor the more likely you are to commit crimes...

You can compare Moldova with Equatorial Guinea. The former is 99.9% white country, and it is one of the poorest nations in the earth. Equatorial Guinea is an African nation, and it is perhaps the richest country in the continent. But still, the crimes rates in Moldova are much lower than those in Eq. Guinea.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: craked5 on May 22, 2017, 08:13:30 AM
Tss... Blacks comit more crimes simply because they're poorer. The most your poor the more likely you are to commit crimes...

You can compare Moldova with Equatorial Guinea. The former is 99.9% white country, and it is one of the poorest nations in the earth. Equatorial Guinea is an African nation, and it is perhaps the richest country in the continent. But still, the crimes rates in Moldova are much lower than those in Eq. Guinea.

Ok so it's just definitively you who's never checking anything.
https://borgenproject.org/poverty-in-equatorial-guinea/

Equatorial Guinea is one of the poorest countries in the world. Poverty rate is at 60%, how is that anything close to rich?

Please stop saying things without AT LEAST checking them.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 22, 2017, 09:16:17 AM
Tss... Blacks comit more crimes simply because they're poorer. The most your poor the more likely you are to commit crimes...

You can compare Moldova with Equatorial Guinea. The former is 99.9% white country, and it is one of the poorest nations in the earth. Equatorial Guinea is an African nation, and it is perhaps the richest country in the continent. But still, the crimes rates in Moldova are much lower than those in Eq. Guinea.

Ok so it's just definitively you who's never checking anything.
https://borgenproject.org/poverty-in-equatorial-guinea/

Equatorial Guinea is one of the poorest countries in the world. Poverty rate is at 60%, how is that anything close to rich?

Please stop saying things without AT LEAST checking them.

The wealth distribution in Equatorial Guinea is extremely skewed, and that is the reason for the 60% poverty rate. But look at these figures:

Equatorial Guinea, GDP per capita: 11,000 USD ($23,000 in 2012)
Moldova, GDP per capita: $1,800 USD ($2,000 in 2012).

An average guy in Eq. Guinea is almost 10 times richer than someone in Moldova.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: craked5 on May 22, 2017, 09:42:37 AM
Tss... Blacks comit more crimes simply because they're poorer. The most your poor the more likely you are to commit crimes...

You can compare Moldova with Equatorial Guinea. The former is 99.9% white country, and it is one of the poorest nations in the earth. Equatorial Guinea is an African nation, and it is perhaps the richest country in the continent. But still, the crimes rates in Moldova are much lower than those in Eq. Guinea.

Ok so it's just definitively you who's never checking anything.
https://borgenproject.org/poverty-in-equatorial-guinea/

Equatorial Guinea is one of the poorest countries in the world. Poverty rate is at 60%, how is that anything close to rich?

Please stop saying things without AT LEAST checking them.

The wealth distribution in Equatorial Guinea is extremely skewed, and that is the reason for the 60% poverty rate. But look at these figures:

Equatorial Guinea, GDP per capita: 11,000 USD ($23,000 in 2012)
Moldova, GDP per capita: $1,800 USD ($2,000 in 2012).

An average guy in Eq. Guinea is almost 10 times richer than someone in Moldova.

....
no...
The 60% poverty rate means 60% people live with less than 1.25$

Poverty rate of Moldava is 11%
http://data.worldbank.org/country/moldova

It means more than half of Eq. Guinea lives with 1$ or less while only 1 out of ten of Moldova are like this.

So you're talking about average but this is ridiculous because inequality is far too large in Eq. Guinea.
So rather logical to have higher crime rate in Eq. Guinea as people are poorer.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: criptix on May 22, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
After reading sitharas post one might belive woman are really stupid  :-[


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: craked5 on May 22, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
After reading sitharas post one might belive woman are really stupid  :-[
Why?
Sitharas is a woman?
Damn if that's true she's the perfect example of how equally stupid men and women can be xD


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: GreenBits on May 23, 2017, 12:23:17 AM
So what's going on with "conservative"

Censorship - check ( and with it ad revenued - check)
Constant demonization - check
Exclusion from movie / series - check
Identified in database - check

Things yet to accomplish

0 access to communication - in progress but it's not 1930
Visual markers - not planned


It's not a blasphemy, it's just a mix of pure stupidity and arrogance.

Censorship: wtf? How exactly are you getting censored? I keep seeing conservatives on TV all the time in fact there are ONLY conservatives people! Never saw anything but liberal economists and in my country the extreme right conservatives are ALWAYS in the spotlight... While claiming they're getting censored of course...

Constant demonization: demonization... Sure... let's compare the propaganda against jews with drawings of them in public display representing them with evil eyes big noses and the incarnation of greed to... To whatever I don't even see what you're talking about...

Exclusion from movie/series: whaaaaaaaaaat? WHAAAAAAAAAT? WTF MAN? You want movies with a hero saying what? "I'm a conservative and I support the closure of our national borders"?? This doesn't even make sense xD

Identified in database: ok this one is true at least. But it's true for everyone: cosnervatives, liberals, royalists, anarchists... We're all in voters database now.


Please try to take some time to read yourself... Try to find examples of what you're saying, it will help you seeing how it doesn't make any sense.

JAHahaha ;) You get a cookie.

I got soo confused on number three, but I think he means media representation. I was in the same place you were for a bit lol, I had to feel for intent ;) so it makes 1 and 3 the same kinda, he has obviously never seen any parts of the Fox News Network ;) it's my answer to the OP, lol.


To end this argument quickly, how many contemporary United States conservatives have been subjected to state sponsored genocide, because they are conservative? They cooked Jews in fucking ovens, for Christ's sake. Show me some conservative gss chambers and I'll bite.

Conservatives aren't being vilified right now, at least by anyone with sense. The GOP is being vilified because they are reluctant to endanger the party agenda by admonishing Trump. The alt right is being vilified for going full retard and putting real life Lex Luthor into office. And Trumps cabinet and family are being vilified for being proximal to Trump while he is a media target.


Conservatives are cool people ;)


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 23, 2017, 01:35:45 AM
....
no...
The 60% poverty rate means 60% people live with less than 1.25$

Poverty rate of Moldava is 11%
http://data.worldbank.org/country/moldova

It means more than half of Eq. Guinea lives with 1$ or less while only 1 out of ten of Moldova are like this.

So you're talking about average but this is ridiculous because inequality is far too large in Eq. Guinea.
So rather logical to have higher crime rate in Eq. Guinea as people are poorer.

Then you can compare Moldova with Albania, which happens to be the criminal capital of Europe. Albania is relatively richer when compared to Moldova, but the crime rates are much higher.


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: craked5 on May 23, 2017, 08:27:52 AM
....
no...
The 60% poverty rate means 60% people live with less than 1.25$

Poverty rate of Moldava is 11%
http://data.worldbank.org/country/moldova

It means more than half of Eq. Guinea lives with 1$ or less while only 1 out of ten of Moldova are like this.

So you're talking about average but this is ridiculous because inequality is far too large in Eq. Guinea.
So rather logical to have higher crime rate in Eq. Guinea as people are poorer.

Then you can compare Moldova with Albania, which happens to be the criminal capital of Europe. Albania is relatively richer when compared to Moldova, but the crime rates are much higher.

Oh so after giving a false example you're just going to give another one and another and another until you find one that works? xD

Anyway this example still doesn't work:
http://data.worldbank.org/?locations=MD-AL

Albania and Moldava have the same poverty rate BUT Albania has a much higher GDP. It means between the two countries, Albania is not richer, it's just much more inequalitarian.
So that means if two countries are equally poor, the crime rate is higher in the country which is more unequal.

Thanks for proving even more my point :D


Title: Re: Is it worst to be conservative now in america than jewish in germany in 1930?
Post by: mainpmf on May 23, 2017, 12:41:34 PM

Conservatives are cool people ;)


I can't support that :3

But for sure they're not monsters. They're just confused people who can't really understand what's happening in the world and where is the real ennemy that's all.