Title: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: virtualdn on May 17, 2017, 10:07:19 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Yakamoto on May 17, 2017, 10:27:38 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Well it's not dead yet, and is showing mostly signs of strength right now, so I'm thinking that it's doing a damn good job maintaining its position. Still has a $30B market cap according to coinmarketcap right now, and the only competitor is XRP and ETH, and XRP is flying high on speculation. Not much backing it up right now beyond that.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: avikz on May 17, 2017, 10:49:16 PM I think that bitcoin is and will be the king of crypto at least for few years to come. Hardly any other coin has the capability to take over bitcoin even with technical superiority. Bitcoin enjoys the privilege of being the first crypto currency and huge public trust. Many people have taken a huge stake in bitcoin and they will not want the price to come down so easily.
If we compare the market cap of bitcoin, it enjoys the highest numbers and the closest competitor is Ripple with half of bitcoin's market cap. So I am not worrying about any crash that may come in. I will keep believing in bitcoin. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Tyrantt on May 17, 2017, 10:49:59 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto I'm sure it will. It's a little bumpy road at the moment but if (some) miners stop being pricks, this might fly over smoothly. Tho it might take a little more than the next few days. :/ Bitcoin is the King of Crypto at this point. :p Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: LTU_btc on May 17, 2017, 11:18:44 PM What? Is it bitcoin dying again? How many times it was dead already? Bitcoin is like a zombie who always re-borns after death.
If to talk serious, this thread will become paradise for signature spammers. Let's prepare for answers such like "Bitcoin isn't dying because blah blah nlah. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Markley on May 17, 2017, 11:22:56 PM bitcoin will survive, something needs to be done to deal with the unconfirmed transactions though
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: MingLee on May 17, 2017, 11:28:43 PM What? Is it bitcoin dying again? How many times it was dead already? Bitcoin is like a zombie who always re-borns after death. Probably just freaking out because we haven't implemented a bigger blocksize yet and the transaction queue is growing, but it doesn't really make me freak out yet because the market seems relatively comfortable with what's going on, and there's nothing that indicates Bitcoin collapsing yet. I'm still going to truck on as usual and not really worry about anything until more constructive debates are had.If to talk serious, this thread will become paradise for signature spammers. Let's prepare for answers such like "Bitcoin isn't dying because blah blah nlah. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: emezh10 on May 17, 2017, 11:37:28 PM The unconfirm transaction in the blockchain was really a bad thing for the bitcoin i dont thing it is a good thing wasting for almost 4 days just to confirmed a small transaction in the blockchain i guess bitcoin really need a upgrade in transaction because the bitcoin users are also increasing rapidly.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: machinek20 on May 17, 2017, 11:38:37 PM Bitcoon will survive, at least for the next few years because there are a lot of site and shops accepting bitcoin payment, although the dominance is fall down and there are many complaints about the fee and the transaction speed, but the bitcoin implementation is wider than other alt coins, so for temporary bitcoin will still be the king
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: The_prodigy on May 18, 2017, 01:58:41 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto yes it survived, bitcoin regained its value, right after the ransomware i have heard it fluctuated because of the ransomware am i right? , bitcoin will always be the king and the father of all alt coins. it has a many supporters and the devs are good, they doesnt keep bitcoin to be fluctuated they will making a way, many people trusted bitcoin too much. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Mometaskers on May 18, 2017, 02:12:55 AM Are you hinting that there's a possibility of a plunge? Gonna stash some money now for buying cheap later! LOL. ;D
I would have been more apprehensive of bitcoin's survival due to the forking debate if Japan and Australia had not recognized it. We'll probably get through this just fine. Like someone here already said, there are bumps on the road. If you got into bitcoins, that means you are willing to risk the money you invested in this. If the money has already gained more than 50% from what it was when you invested, why be worried with a small drop like 20% or so? :) Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: ElBlaze on May 18, 2017, 05:36:27 AM Wouldn't worry too much about BTC staying at the top. What does bitcoin have to be scared of? XRP? It's already going down massively today 17% down and that's only the beginning.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Herbert2020 on May 18, 2017, 05:37:49 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto then it's settled, bitcoin is the king of crypto since this has been going on for at least 2 years and only the severity has increased. and this is not something that can "kill" bitcoin. it only pisses users off while miners earn a lot more money. That Crown has been rusting for the past few months. Now BTC Dominance: 48.6% down from almost 88% in Dec 2016. It is a economic paradigm shift in the digital world. People will recognize it or be crushed by it. Their call. just be careful when the whales you are advertising for started to dump on your head. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Xester on May 18, 2017, 05:50:15 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Bitcoin is under pressure this days and the reason is the hundred of thousands of pending transactions in the mempool. Aside from that there are movements coming from this new coin the so called TBC or the billion coins, they have announced that later this year they are going to launch the fiat exchanger to several countries across the globe. Unlike bitcoin this coin does not suffer from volatility since they are programmed to increase in value daily. If bitcoin cannot solve its recent problems then we will experience a tremendous shift from bitcoin to TBC. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dreamhouse on May 18, 2017, 06:01:15 AM The bitcoin will surely survive, but it can live a lot better if it solves the scalability and performance issue. Technologies are there, just up to core team to do it.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: ubercool on May 18, 2017, 06:12:16 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Bitcoin is under pressure this days and the reason is the hundred of thousands of pending transactions in the mempool. Aside from that there are movements coming from this new coin the so called TBC or the billion coins, they have announced that later this year they are going to launch the fiat exchanger to several countries across the globe. Unlike bitcoin this coin does not suffer from volatility since they are programmed to increase in value daily. If bitcoin cannot solve its recent problems then we will experience a tremendous shift from bitcoin to TBC. Not just that but many more issues has to be solved sooner or later in order to be the number 1 cryptocurrency. Otherwise, BTC will just be an asset, nothing more and people will move on to some other altcoin for a regular transaction. Already we have seen the growth in many altcoins and its mainly because of the problems in BTC. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: severaldetails on May 18, 2017, 06:28:41 AM I still do not see a reson why bitcoin should be in danger, or under pressure.
It's nearly at an all time high if I read the numbers correctly... And regarding the marKet capitalization: Number two is ripple. Somehow it should be worth nearly half of bitcoin. Ripple is a premined coin. How should that end up? Market capitalization is a number without any meaning. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: crazyivan on May 18, 2017, 06:38:10 AM Ha Ha Ha. Another BTC obituary, probably number 100000000000 so far. Oh yes, it will survive. Not only that, we ll see $2k quite soon. Once we finally get SegWit, we ll see $3k.
Just be patient and get as much coins as possible. This is a once in the lifetime opportunity. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: digaran on May 18, 2017, 07:30:26 AM Ha Ha Ha. Another BTC obituary, probably number 100000000000 so far. Oh yes, it will survive. Not only that, we ll see $2k quite soon. Once we finally get SegWit, we ll see $3k. Tell that all you want day and night as it wont matter because only the smartest take note of it.Just be patient and get as much coins as possible. This is a once in the lifetime opportunity. I'm begging every body I know to not just give me the money so I can buy Bitcoins but they do it themselves because they're my family and friends and I want to them rich and successful but all they do is hesitating and doubting even now. but one thing that is people like that wont buy any coins even if price goes back to $800 because some people are unable to see what a good opportunity is or maybe they just don't deserve this chance. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: bitbunnny on May 18, 2017, 07:36:02 AM Why all this dramatic posts about Bitcoin dying or going to be dead soon? I'm not sure I could understand. Bitcoin has some problems and issues, that is true, but there is nothing that couldn't be solved and people realy shouldn't give up so easy and spread the panic without any good reason.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: krishnapramod on May 18, 2017, 07:38:08 AM What? Is it bitcoin dying again? How many times it was dead already? Bitcoin is like a zombie who always re-borns after death. Probably just freaking out because we haven't implemented a bigger blocksize yet and the transaction queue is growing, but it doesn't really make me freak out yet because the market seems relatively comfortable with what's going on, and there's nothing that indicates Bitcoin collapsing yet. I'm still going to truck on as usual and not really worry about anything until more constructive debates are had.If to talk serious, this thread will become paradise for signature spammers. Let's prepare for answers such like "Bitcoin isn't dying because blah blah nlah. Bitcoin would not be dead anytime soon, but how long would it be able to dominate other altcoins if the current scenario continues for another year or so? There have been many instances of unconfirmed transactions in the past, but yesterday there were around 200622 unconfirmed transaction and that is something to be concerned about. Market seems relatively stable, but if a scenario like yesterday keeps repeating then obviously bitcoin users would jump to other altcoins. The scaling debate continues, can't blame the miners, increased adoption, increased transactions, increased fee, blocksize still the same. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Inkdatar on May 18, 2017, 07:44:51 AM I dont think bitcoin would be dying soon. But these past few weeks always encountered of delayed transactions that took into 1weeks. They should really resolved this issue, because many people are worrying about it. Thus, ww can observe now that bitcoin price is increasing still these days.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Quartx on May 18, 2017, 07:49:05 AM Another day, another thread on how bitcoin is dying, has died or going to.
I always love to use this website to see how many times bitcoins have died according to "tech writers" , currently at an impressive 129 times too. https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoinobituaries/ On a serious note, why would you even think that bitcoin is going to die? Because of unfixed differences between devs about activating segwit? Or the recent wanncry attacks putting bitcoin in the limelight. Always remember that bad publicity spreads faster and reaches more people than good ones. And this time around, we were just being used in the payment process, sounds like good publicity for me Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Eternad on May 18, 2017, 07:51:10 AM I dont think bitcoin would be dying soon. But these past few weeks always encountered of delayed transactions that took into 1weeks. They should really resolved this issue, because many people are worrying about it. Thus, ww can observe now that bitcoin price is increasing still these days. Delays are not indication of bitcoin dying, It is just the result of how many users are already using it. The developer blockchain needs to improve their service and increase data so that in serve huge volume of transaction. There are tons of pending transaction today and and it is not advisable to transact ATM. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: DoublerHunter on May 18, 2017, 08:22:38 AM I dont think bitcoin would be dying soon. But these past few weeks always encountered of delayed transactions that took into 1weeks. They should really resolved this issue, because many people are worrying about it. Thus, ww can observe now that bitcoin price is increasing still these days. Delays are not indication of bitcoin dying, It is just the result of how many users are already using it. The developer blockchain needs to improve their service and increase data so that in serve huge volume of transaction. There are tons of pending transaction today and and it is not advisable to transact ATM. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on May 18, 2017, 08:31:11 AM I don't believe that bitcoin will die these following days because many investors already invest in bitcoin and japan was done legalized bitcoin..
So its impossible that bitcoin will be die soon.. like other said its already been discuss before and hundred times mention that bitcoin will be die.. not this time bitcoin is starting to be use as normal payment method like other payment method online and many company are hoping about bitcoin to stay long. So if you are thinking that bitcoin will be die soon don't expect it. because bitcoin has a longer live than yours.. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: classicsucks on May 18, 2017, 08:38:03 AM What does bitcoin have to be scared of? Other coins with blockchains that aren't artificially limited by a corporate takeover attempt to relegate it to a settlement layer? I suspect that bitcoin losing 50% market dominance is a major event. It's been dropping like a stone. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: mackenzied on May 18, 2017, 08:43:55 AM What does bitcoin have to be scared of? Other coins with blockchains that aren't artificially limited by a corporate takeover attempt to relegate it to a settlement layer? I suspect that bitcoin losing 50% market dominance is a major event. It's been dropping like a stone. I think bitcoin no longer dominates the market, some recent surveys have proven that, some other currencies are rising and competing with bitcoin. Unconfirmed transactions are a major cause for discouraging people who may stop using bitcoin at any time. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: bamboylee on May 18, 2017, 09:30:39 AM Bitcoin have a large problem in its hands but the ones who have the power to solve it is sitting on the solution just to earn more money. It is bad, it can kill bitcoin, and only time can tell if they will allow it to happen or not. Fees will continue to bloat as more people get into bitcoin and they will get tired of either paying high fees or waiting for confirmation. Either way, the solution is there, but users can implement. Only miners can. So bitcoin's fate is in their hands.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: akija on May 18, 2017, 09:38:05 AM Its already the King Of crypto .
There are more users of btc right now then any Other cypto . Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Schuyler on May 18, 2017, 10:29:21 AM The more naysayers talk about bitcoin’s demise, the longer it is going to be around. We have to admit that it is far from being perfect, at its current state, but the solutions to make it better are all there and it is just a matter of working on some compromises for bitcoin to really live up to its high billing. We may sound like a broken record for for saying these things but that is the only way for bitcoin to further improve.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: PeRo on May 18, 2017, 10:37:55 AM Bitcoin is and always will be the king of cryptocurrencies and it does not need any prooving. No other cryptocurrency can get even close to Bitcoin, because itbis the first one. I see guys specaulating every month that it will die, but it doesn't die, its a strong currency and it survived everything, this wont stop it.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: nviere on May 18, 2017, 10:43:45 AM If something occurs like a hack on an exchange the price may plummet, but I am guessing it will survive .
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dunfida on May 18, 2017, 10:50:40 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto No one could put a period on bitcoin on when and how long it would last but knowing on its current development and value its hard to say that it cant survive over next days or years to come on bitcoin.Btc is really the king of all cryptocurrency since its the first created coin and yet still kicking and rising its value which cant hardly be replaced easily by some altcoin in the market.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Betwrong on May 18, 2017, 11:10:47 AM Its already the King Of crypto . There are more users of btc right now then any Other cypto . Yep, although Ripple is booming lately trading volume of Bitcoin for the last 24h is still three times higher than that of Ripple and five times higher than that of Ethereum. And any other crypto has even much more lower trading volume. So Bitcoin is not dying yet. ) Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: roadbits on May 18, 2017, 11:29:56 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto No one could put a period on bitcoin on when and how long it would last but knowing on its current development and value its hard to say that it cant survive over next days or years to come on bitcoin.Btc is really the king of all cryptocurrency since its the first created coin and yet still kicking and rising its value which cant hardly be replaced easily by some altcoin in the market.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: davis196 on May 18, 2017, 11:41:04 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Bitcoin is the undisputed king of cryptocurrencies and it` doesn`t need any proof for that. Why does bitcoin need to "survive over the next days"? I don`t know about any important events regarding btc. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: RamBahadur.Gurung on May 18, 2017, 11:56:37 AM If something occurs like a hack on an exchange the price may plummet, but I am guessing it will survive . A Korean exchange was hacked a few days back and $7 million worth of coins and cash stolen. There was hardly any impact on the exchange rates. It seems that we are well past that stage. But I am worried about the rise of altcoins (especially Ripple). Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: gerad09 on May 18, 2017, 11:58:51 AM Bitcoin will always be the best at price , but at market cap don't know some coins might pass it like XRP if it reaches $1 :)
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: jtipt on May 18, 2017, 12:32:13 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Wait, so it isn't? I mean it's very clear that Bitcoin IS the current King of crypto's, I mean just compare its market cap with other crypto's its around 10 times more. If BTC survives over next days, which it most likely will, I will just continue being the king.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dave3 on May 18, 2017, 12:38:30 PM Why would bitcoin not survive over the "next days?"
Of course it will survive. It may go up, it may go down, transaction fees could increase again, we could have 1M waiting transactions. But it will still survive it. Eventually, this block-size debacle will be solved, and it will be behind us. One way or the other. And, long term, I think bitcoin value will continue to increase (though I expect there may be some wild pull-backs at times). I mean, what else are you going to do, put your money in a savings account in a bank? It's FDIC insured, right? LOL. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: iluvpie60 on May 18, 2017, 02:11:47 PM It will survive. I am sure of it. Too many people use it for it to go away. It just needs some updates done every so often to make it more useable.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Equilux on May 18, 2017, 02:32:28 PM Why do people keep using market-cap either as defense or as an attack on measuring importance/viability of a coin? It's by far the most misleading metric! Especially with all the launches with only 5% of coins for sale, leading to an instantly huge market-cap.
Why not use number of transactions? Or number of merchants accepting a coin? Maybe the number of unique addresses used? Using any or all of these metrics also shows the massive gap there is between BTC and any other coin ... Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: michkima on May 18, 2017, 02:37:33 PM Why do people keep using market-cap either as defense or as an attack on measuring importance/viability of a coin? It's by far the most misleading metric! Especially with all the launches with only 5% of coins for sale, leading to an instantly huge market-cap. Why not use number of transactions? Or number of merchants accepting a coin? Maybe the number of unique addresses used? Using any or all of these metrics also shows the massive gap there is between BTC and any other coin ... Generally I think people are lazy to read other numbers they cannot see directly from the details of the coin. All they see are the easy information and they decide from that. There are a lot of coins that have so much market cap but they just die, because no one really uses them. Bitcoin, compared to others, is the most used coin, which translates to having real value than other coins. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: BillyBobZorton on May 18, 2017, 02:38:20 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto That Crown has been rusting for the past few months. Now BTC Dominance: 48.6% down from almost 88% in Dec 2016. It is a economic paradigm shift in the digital world. People will recognize it or be crushed by it. Their call. https://img.memesuper.com/84a041ae68090ae71930218683dea5cc_tidalwave-0png-tidal-wave-meme_620-300.png ╥AztekPhoenix Only braindead idiots still didn't catch up with the facts: The BTC Dominance ratio is fucking stupid because it means nothing. BTC is only higher everyday, how can you call it dead? The BTC Dominance ratio is rigged https://medium.com/bitcoinfoundation/the-bitcoin-dominance-indicator-fallacy-2b11093869d4 Anyone can pump and dump a premined coin and call it a day, big fucking whoop! This is exactly what we are seeing right now with the ripple scam. a 100% premined coin is getting pumped and it's #2 marketcap. This means BTC is losing dominance? Nope, it just means a centralized scam that doesn't even have a blockchain is getting pumped. Who cares? Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on May 18, 2017, 02:47:43 PM This will be a very much anticipated thing. Anyone who knows bitcoin today would want bitcoin to be a recognized currency.
Not offcially, but to the extent allowed and supported all things related to bitcoin. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Kprawn on May 18, 2017, 03:33:28 PM We have survived much bigger hurdles than a few scaling problems. After MtGox, people thought it was the end of Bitcoin and guess what... We
survived. ::) .... People thought Silkroad and drugs were the only thing that carried Bitcoin volumes and guess what... They were wrong. ;) We will not go down without a fight... and there is a lot of fight in most of us. ;D Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: lol3c on May 18, 2017, 03:41:24 PM hard to know. There are more than 200000 transactions unconfirmed on the blockchain and it is not very good, People will get insane about their money keep getting pending like that. Bitcoin is driving people crazy and more people will give up on Bitcoin. Maybe it is time for another altcoin to rise
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: shintosai on May 18, 2017, 03:47:15 PM hard to know. There are more than 200000 transactions unconfirmed on the blockchain and it is not very good, People will get insane about their money keep getting pending like that. Bitcoin is driving people crazy and more people will give up on Bitcoin. Maybe it is time for another altcoin to rise its seems that the more its been stuck the more the price/value is moving up so fast, might be possible those freeze coins aremaking people really mad and shaken coming from their investment, but it will survive since there's a lots of things already happen and bitcoin still surviving. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: lite on May 18, 2017, 04:31:43 PM hard to know. There are more than 200000 transactions unconfirmed on the blockchain and it is not very good, People will get insane about their money keep getting pending like that. Bitcoin is driving people crazy and more people will give up on Bitcoin. Maybe it is time for another altcoin to rise Bitcoin will survive! once we get bitcoin scaling issue resolved, everything will go smoothly. the only question is when are we going to get solution to scaling problem. i'll always be a bitcoiner, i'm not going to take chances on altcoins. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: SwagGirl on May 18, 2017, 06:19:35 PM Ha Ha Ha. Another BTC obituary, probably number 100000000000 so far. Oh yes, it will survive. Not only that, we ll see $2k quite soon. Once we finally get SegWit, we ll see $3k. Tell that all you want day and night as it wont matter because only the smartest take note of it.Just be patient and get as much coins as possible. This is a once in the lifetime opportunity. I'm begging every body I know to not just give me the money so I can buy Bitcoins but they do it themselves because they're my family and friends and I want to them rich and successful but all they do is hesitating and doubting even now. but one thing that is people like that wont buy any coins even if price goes back to $800 because some people are unable to see what a good opportunity is or maybe they just don't deserve this chance. It never ceases to amaze me how shortsighted people are and don't get this simple truth. Its called the big picture. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: TheWallStreetCrew on May 19, 2017, 12:39:36 AM Bitcoin will have many more problems moving forward. The community will get better at solving them too. Dont make too big of a deal out of this incident.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Porfirii on May 19, 2017, 12:42:55 AM New ATH: >1.900 USD
;) Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Mometaskers on May 19, 2017, 02:21:22 AM I still find it amusing how some people are still panicky with bitcoin. I mean, if you bought them below $100, I'd expect you to be unfazed even if the price drops by half today. ;D
I might sound extremely optimistic but as of this moment none of the alts seem to have a large enough saturation as bitcoin and many don't really offer anything new. It's telling that they are still valued in comparison with their price in bitcoin. Wouldn't worry too much about BTC staying at the top. What does bitcoin have to be scared of? XRP? It's already going down massively today 17% down and that's only the beginning. I just bought some xrp yesterday.... ;D Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: DoomDumas on May 19, 2017, 03:33:53 AM Bitcoin will survive, is the king and will be.. This is just noise.. Bitcoin may face much more challenging issue in the years to come..
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: ufaiz50 on May 19, 2017, 04:14:37 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto a surviving crypto over the next days will be king? btc, eth, xrp can do that and they have no signs of death. I think that can't be a standard for the title of king. who knows when bitcoin will also have many problems even today many people complain about slow and expensive bitcoin transactions.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: AjithBtc on May 19, 2017, 04:19:10 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto a surviving crypto over the next days will be king? btc, eth, xrp can do that and they have no signs of death. I think that can't be a standard for the title of king. who knows when bitcoin will also have many problems even today many people complain about slow and expensive bitcoin transactions.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: MiguelTheMVP on May 19, 2017, 05:19:40 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Bitcoin will never die. Bitcoin will be always the king of the cryptocurrency and no altcoins can beat bitcoin. Because of the power that the bitcoin have, it is the always no.1 cryptocurrency. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: lighpulsar07 on May 19, 2017, 05:49:45 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto well it already proved that btc is still the king of crypto why? bitcoin is still dominating and holding 50 percent of the whole market capitalization of cryptocurrencies despite of it's issues regarding scaling, spam attacks and the increasing miner fees. although it's quite alarming that bitcoin's dominance are reducing time to time i think it's time to solve the issues and make bitcoin great againTitle: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: TheWallStreetCrew on May 19, 2017, 05:10:31 PM I can say that in the off chance that bitcoins leadership starts to slip, it would probable happen fast because over a short period of time once it crosses the point of no return. That's said it wont die there are way too many die hard supporters.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: megynacuna on May 19, 2017, 05:46:10 PM New ATH: >1.900 USD ;) Guess it's proven to the OP already because we are a little short of the dream $2000. A weebit more and then we head for 2k+ Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: skorupi17 on May 19, 2017, 06:53:59 PM Bitcoin is indeed the king of crypto currencies ever since and up until now. Days will not suffice to make bitcoin down on its knees. Bitcoin has been around for years now and it has proven its strength despite of all the issues it encountered and currently dealing with. Bitcoin's price might drop but it will take more than that to stop bitcoin. Transaction confirmation may be too long but it is not enough to turn people away from bitcoin. Surely, as the people demands for bitcoin, developers will compromise and resolve these issues.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: nviere on May 19, 2017, 09:00:27 PM New ATH: >1.900 USD ;) Guess it's proven to the OP already because we are a little short of the dream $2000. A weebit more and then we head for 2k+ Even if the price evolves beyond that point, there is no way of predicting what the new bottom is Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Baofeng on May 19, 2017, 09:10:55 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto What proof do you really need to see that bitcoin is already the king of crypto world? $3000? $5000 price? I think bitcoin has nothing to prove anymore. Accumulating it as investment or store of value more than any altcoins makes it the most trusted crypto right now. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: bibiqua on May 19, 2017, 09:21:20 PM bitcoin is already the king of crypto world? Be aware, that quite a number of kings have been decapitated when they failed to do their job properly. Thanks for the brilliant analogy! Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: iluvpie60 on May 19, 2017, 09:24:57 PM Why wouldn't it survive over the next few days? I don't understand why you ask that???
Of course it is going to survive lol. Just because bitcoin leadership is slipping and getting chaotic doesn't mean much. Eventually they will have to cave in to what the community wants. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dejavvu on May 19, 2017, 09:33:02 PM Why wouldn't it survive, am i missing something?
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Hazir on May 19, 2017, 09:42:55 PM Why wouldn't it survive, am i missing something? Yes, you are missing a lot. With current 1 MB blocks we estimate that Bitcoin network has around 120 days left before the memory pool will increase infinitely.We need to have scaling solution ASAP to prevent situation like this. The best way IMO is to pick the best technology: SegWit which is far superior (allows off-chain solution) and safer than BU. I think it's about time... if we will wait more, it can be too late. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dejavvu on May 19, 2017, 09:47:34 PM Why wouldn't it survive, am i missing something? Yes, you are missing a lot. With current 1 MB blocks we estimate that Bitcoin network has around 120 days left before the memory pool will increase infinitely.We need to have scaling solution ASAP to prevent situation like this. The best way IMO is to pick the best technology: SegWit which is far superior (allows off-chain solution) and safer than BU. I think it's about time... if we will wait more, it can be too late. No, I'm not. Stop with these dooms day scenarios. Everybody knows what is going on and something will be done. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Hazir on May 19, 2017, 09:54:31 PM Why wouldn't it survive, am i missing something? Yes, you are missing a lot. With current 1 MB blocks we estimate that Bitcoin network has around 120 days left before the memory pool will increase infinitely.We need to have scaling solution ASAP to prevent situation like this. The best way IMO is to pick the best technology: SegWit which is far superior (allows off-chain solution) and safer than BU. I think it's about time... if we will wait more, it can be too late. No, I'm not. Stop with these dooms day scenarios. Everybody knows what is going on and something will be done. Actually, I think that increasing number of unconfirmed transactions is a good thing - under pressure miners will be more prone to act and find scaling consensus already. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dejavvu on May 19, 2017, 10:05:16 PM Why wouldn't it survive, am i missing something? Yes, you are missing a lot. With current 1 MB blocks we estimate that Bitcoin network has around 120 days left before the memory pool will increase infinitely.We need to have scaling solution ASAP to prevent situation like this. The best way IMO is to pick the best technology: SegWit which is far superior (allows off-chain solution) and safer than BU. I think it's about time... if we will wait more, it can be too late. No, I'm not. Stop with these dooms day scenarios. Everybody knows what is going on and something will be done. Actually, I think that increasing number of unconfirmed transactions is a good thing - under pressure miners will be more prone to act and find scaling consensus already. Look I'm not single-handedly calling you out. I meant in general. We have been going over these scenarios since the inception of BTC. I get it, people love drama, tension and all but a lot happened since then. MTGox, Silkroad, ETH hack whatever. Where we are now is that BTC is too big to fall. That does not mean It can't ever fall but it won't fall easily and even if it does what really is the problem. The idea will stay. We are now living in a world where we need crypto some way or another. Some solutions will always come up be it BTC related or not. In BTC's case i'm sure they will come to an agreement sooner than later. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: epitome on May 19, 2017, 11:06:53 PM How much more rally are we going to see with bitcoin,i would like to see the price crossing $2000 with this rally and it looks like all the alts are moving up and ETH is having a good rally right now and it could also break new price records on its way as i expect a good return in a weeks time.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: classicsucks on May 20, 2017, 04:03:28 PM Why wouldn't it survive, am i missing something? Yes, you are missing a lot. With current 1 MB blocks we estimate that Bitcoin network has around 120 days left before the memory pool will increase infinitely.We need to have scaling solution ASAP to prevent situation like this. The best way IMO is to pick the best technology: SegWit which is far superior (allows off-chain solution) and safer than BU. I think it's about time... if we will wait more, it can be too late. No, I'm not. Stop with these dooms day scenarios. Everybody knows what is going on and something will be done. Actually, I think that increasing number of unconfirmed transactions is a good thing - under pressure miners will be more prone to act and find scaling consensus already. This is precisely the type of FUD I expect from Core-bois. Pressure to adopt Segwit "or else". And it's a logical reason Core would spam the mempool to hell. Another solution would be to start dropping the spam transactions. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: bibiqua on May 20, 2017, 04:10:46 PM Another solution would be to start dropping the spam transactions. Please enlighten us with some evidence that it's spam transactions what's filling up the mempool. Eplain: Almost all of the lagging transactions from the last two weeks are backed with >120 Sat/B fee. Who's going to afford this expensive Spam? Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: classicsucks on May 20, 2017, 04:24:46 PM Another solution would be to start dropping the spam transactions. Please enlighten us with some evidence that it's spam transactions what's filling up the mempool. Eplain: Almost all of the lagging transactions from the last two weeks are backed with >120 Sat/B fee. Who's going to afford this expensive Spam? For spam, you could try the forum search function to find the 10+ threads discussing, but this should get you started: https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f (https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f) The person holding lots of coin can afford the fees to spam, because the price keeps going up. BTW that's another plausible explanation of the spam, exchanges and whales using up blockspace to buy coins from themselves repeatedly, driving prices up. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Mike Mayor on May 20, 2017, 04:53:05 PM What are you talking about ? It already is the crypto King it is the original crypto currency. Though the fees are getting insane man like $1 per transaction or you wait forever or you don't get it sent at all. A bit annoying. But still I love Bitcoin and it is here to stay for many many more years to come. It will find a solution soon. For now I use altcoins for smaller transfers. Only lsrge Ines will I use bitcoin. Maybe this is the reason doge has done so well lately.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: bibiqua on May 20, 2017, 05:20:28 PM For spam, you could try the forum search function to find the 10+ threads discussing, but this should get you started: https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f[/url] I've been watching the unconfirmed transactions coming in at blockchain.info myself and yes, I've noticed occasional transactions like this one as well. Occasional, not overwhelming. DoS looks different. For instance, please show the impact of this "Spam" in the graph: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#2d If this spam was of any importance, the green line on the bottom of the graph would increase like hell. Actually, it's even shrinking. Spam Myth disspelled so far. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Zicadis on May 20, 2017, 06:02:11 PM One of reasons why bitcoin will keep surviving what ever is thrown at it is because all altcoin holders dump what they have in preference of bitcoin
killing the alt slowly and breathing new life into bitcoin Another solution would be to start dropping the spam transactions. Please enlighten us with some evidence that it's spam transactions what's filling up the mempool. Eplain: Almost all of the lagging transactions from the last two weeks are backed with >120 Sat/B fee. Who's going to afford this expensive Spam? For spam, you could try the forum search function to find the 10+ threads discussing, but this should get you started: https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f (https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f) The person holding lots of coin can afford the fees to spam, because the price keeps going up. BTW that's another plausible explanation of the spam, exchanges and whales using up blockspace to buy coins from themselves repeatedly, driving prices up. in a way this could actually work maybe exchangers need to dish out some warning on this ::) or that is also a way for them to generate revenue but if it drives prices up maybe we need to be on the look out for a dump.... and do you mean to say this is an artificial price We currently seeing Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Rinder on May 20, 2017, 06:55:05 PM Bitcoin can loose the market cap value for a while, but remember all coins are traded against bitcoin, and most exchanges just let you buy bitcoin and any other altcoin directly, just a few exchanges allow you to buy with usd/eur some altcoins. Once bitcoin solve the transactions issue you will see a lot money returning back to bitcoin.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: jak3 on May 20, 2017, 07:30:58 PM I don't think people will ever stop using bitcoin completely I agree that they are started of being frustrated with this heavy transaction fees. but with out local currency we don't have any protection even banks can steel our money and we can not do anything with that. bitcoin is a complete way of freedom. its a thing which gives us many advantages so why don't we can afford a little of disadvantage from it
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Blitzboy on May 20, 2017, 09:39:49 PM I don't think people will ever stop using bitcoin completely I agree that they are started of being frustrated with this heavy transaction fees. but with out local currency we don't have any protection even banks can steel our money and we can not do anything with that. bitcoin is a complete way of freedom. its a thing which gives us many advantages so why don't we can afford a little of disadvantage from it Bitcoin is not an only option to avoid using Bank. You can also investe/convert your money into other cryptos such as ripple, monero, ethereum or litecoin. In my perspective, I believe that ethereum has a great chance to defeat bitcoin if Bitcoin can not fix the transaction fee and the confirmation timeTitle: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Baofeng on May 20, 2017, 10:50:05 PM LOL. Bitcoin just touched $2000 today in some exchanges. Can you still see it dying in the next days? I doubt it. Let's face it, no one is complaining about the high transaction fees as long as the price of bitcoin is going up.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 on May 21, 2017, 02:18:26 AM Let's face it, no one is complaining about the high transaction fees as long as the price of bitcoin is going up. No one that is not using it as a currency or as a form of getting paid.For that purpose, it is near useless. And if the current situation persists, it may lose that quality. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: KennyR on May 21, 2017, 02:25:56 AM Let's face it, no one is complaining about the high transaction fees as long as the price of bitcoin is going up. No one that is not using it as a currency or as a form of getting paid.For that purpose, it is near useless. And if the current situation persists, it may lose that quality. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: 27QVUTZj8rgZP1 on May 21, 2017, 02:48:46 AM Though bitcoin is used quite low as a currency, surely bitcoin will survive for a very long time period. If the bitcoin is a failed experiment this could have not survived such a long time period. In one or other way bitcoin is gaining potential, so surely it'll reach more number of users in the form of investment and other accessibility. Only a few days ago I realized Bitcoin is still in beta phase (version < 1).If that is true, then I am not sure why I'm using it now. Seems pretty stupid on my part. Time to rethink. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: classicsucks on May 21, 2017, 08:08:55 AM One of reasons why bitcoin will keep surviving what ever is thrown at it is because all altcoin holders dump what they have in preference of bitcoin killing the alt slowly and breathing new life into bitcoin Another solution would be to start dropping the spam transactions. Please enlighten us with some evidence that it's spam transactions what's filling up the mempool. Eplain: Almost all of the lagging transactions from the last two weeks are backed with >120 Sat/B fee. Who's going to afford this expensive Spam? For spam, you could try the forum search function to find the 10+ threads discussing, but this should get you started: https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f (https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f) The person holding lots of coin can afford the fees to spam, because the price keeps going up. BTW that's another plausible explanation of the spam, exchanges and whales using up blockspace to buy coins from themselves repeatedly, driving prices up. in a way this could actually work maybe exchangers need to dish out some warning on this ::) or that is also a way for them to generate revenue but if it drives prices up maybe we need to be on the look out for a dump.... and do you mean to say this is an artificial price We currently seeing Hmm, I don't have enough information to determine if the price is "artificial", but I do know that if you can't sell, the price can keep rising. Also, the exchanges are not regulated, and it's proven that at least on Mt Gox, Karpeles was running a "buying bot" that bought like 10,000BTC each day from himself. This would logically be the smart thing to do for any exchange or large trader of BTC - to both protect yourself from risk and to maximize profits. If they can stuff the volume high and fill the mempool, there is a limited number of buys and sells each day - this can further manipulate the price. I wouldn't trust an exchange will do anything other than profit as much as they can... With BTC/USD over $2000 today, I guess most will say there should be a correction soon. But what do I know? For spam, you could try the forum search function to find the 10+ threads discussing, but this should get you started: https://blockchain.info/address/3QQB6AWxaga6wTs6Xwq8FYppgrGinGu15f[/url] I've been watching the unconfirmed transactions coming in at blockchain.info myself and yes, I've noticed occasional transactions like this one as well. Occasional, not overwhelming. DoS looks different. For instance, please show the impact of this "Spam" in the graph: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#2d If this spam was of any importance, the green line on the bottom of the graph would increase like hell. Actually, it's even shrinking. Spam Myth disspelled so far. Nice stats. Those charts differ dramatically from Blockchain's: https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=30days (https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=30days). It's clear from Blockchain's chart that something is going haywire with the mempool transactions - notice the large sharp dips in the chart over the past month. That could be nodes crashing or getting restarted, or it could be some sort of filtering miners are using. The block explorer link I sent you is for some "unable to decode output address" transactions. They've been piling up for weeks under that address. My understanding is that those transactions were written by hand, without a conventional wallet, and they use custom sigops. Looks like textbook spam to me, but I will defer to experts in bitcoin scripting if they've got a legitimate explanation for the transactions. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: bibiqua on May 21, 2017, 09:06:23 AM Those charts differ dramatically from Blockchain's No surprise because blockchain.info is aggressively "pruning transactions" that were "previously accepted" from their database. Been there, suffered from that. Mine didn't even last for a week in blockchain.info. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: YuginKadoya on May 21, 2017, 09:37:20 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Come on look at the Price of BTC right now it is over $2000 dollar value, I think bitcoin will be in demand all over the world because of this kind of progress many investors was into and interested with bitcoin right now and if this keeps up it can really pull the bitcoin price more upward and we might see a $3000 value mark in no time, Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: izanagi narukami on May 21, 2017, 09:42:03 AM It's more than king of crypto since bitcoin currently beat gold existense as solid invesation.
There's not impossible for bitcoin to beat another well known invesment and let the world know that bitcoin can be better than any investment that exist Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Gyfts on May 21, 2017, 09:43:51 AM Are you hinting that there's a possibility of a plunge? Gonna stash some money now for buying cheap later! LOL. ;D I would have been more apprehensive of bitcoin's survival due to the forking debate if Japan and Australia had not recognized it. We'll probably get through this just fine. Like someone here already said, there are bumps on the road. If you got into bitcoins, that means you are willing to risk the money you invested in this. If the money has already gained more than 50% from what it was when you invested, why be worried with a small drop like 20% or so? :) There's no way this hype train is going to last. Seriously. The amount of spikes the price has had in the last couple weeks are ridiculous and it can't keep up. Seems extremely similar to the situation a few years ago when we soared past 1,000. I feel like anyone that has jumped on the bandwagon around this price tag will get burned soon. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 21, 2017, 09:52:05 AM There's no way this hype train is going to last. Seriously. The amount of spikes the price has had in the last couple weeks are ridiculous and it can't keep up. Seems extremely similar to the situation a few years ago when we soared past 1,000. I feel like anyone that has jumped on the bandwagon around this price tag will get burned soon. Although I have the same feeling- seeing ATH almost everyday kind of worries me. However, I still believe that we are in a different situation this time, especially now there is a hope of UASF leading to Segwit, and with red-hot Japanese bitcoin market... Even with the bubble pushing through the $3000 barrier will not surprise me now... Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: CraigWrightBTC on May 23, 2017, 04:29:44 AM I think bitcoin is still survive up to right now and it will be more growing up over next day,week, month even the years
many people around the the world started investing in bitcoin. We can see the capitalization of markets bitcoin also price of bitcoin is growing up too, it is mean bitcoin is survive although it is still new in instrument of investments. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: sobsitesearch on May 23, 2017, 05:06:46 AM I think bitcoin is still survive up to right now and it will be more growing up over next day,week, month even the years Bitcoin is much stronger now a days since lot of country now are accepting bitcoin and it helps a lot to make bitcoin value to be stronger and continuous to increase, and we are see now that bitcoin will reach $3000 before this month end.many people around the the world started investing in bitcoin. We can see the capitalization of markets bitcoin also price of bitcoin is growing up too, it is mean bitcoin is survive although it is still new in instrument of investments. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Question123 on May 23, 2017, 05:19:46 AM Bitcoin will still king of all crypto because if you see the price its very amazing its $2400 as of now. And bitcoin will still king in few many years or maybe few decades. And I believe bitcoin price will still increasing becausr if many people see the proce of bitcoin high for sure they maight be interest to invest bitcoin more . Many people said how bitcoin survives the simple explanation in this because if the bitcoin dump they have pump also bevayse if bitcoin decrease the price many investor buy bitcoin because they want a lot of profit.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: cryp24x on May 23, 2017, 05:32:24 AM I don't think people will ever stop using bitcoin completely I agree that they are started of being frustrated with this heavy transaction fees. but with out local currency we don't have any protection even banks can steel our money and we can not do anything with that. bitcoin is a complete way of freedom. its a thing which gives us many advantages so why don't we can afford a little of disadvantage from it Bitcoin is not an only option to avoid using Bank. You can also investe/convert your money into other cryptos such as ripple, monero, ethereum or litecoin. In my perspective, I believe that ethereum has a great chance to defeat bitcoin if Bitcoin can not fix the transaction fee and the confirmation timeThis is one big LOL, ethereum is worst than bitcoin when it comes to scaling. Imagine how bloated Ethereum blockchain is compared to bitcoin considering the amount of time these two exist, and not saying the amount of transaction being done on their blockchain. If the coinmarketcap is your reference about coin dominance, it is flawed. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: soul-impact on May 23, 2017, 05:37:03 AM I think bitcoin is still survive up to right now and it will be more growing up over next day,week, month even the years Bitcoin is much stronger now a days since lot of country now are accepting bitcoin and it helps a lot to make bitcoin value to be stronger and continuous to increase, and we are see now that bitcoin will reach $3000 before this month end.many people around the the world started investing in bitcoin. We can see the capitalization of markets bitcoin also price of bitcoin is growing up too, it is mean bitcoin is survive although it is still new in instrument of investments. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Alif Mahardika on May 23, 2017, 05:39:04 AM The bitcoin will surely survive, because BTC is the king of crypto. But Bitcoin should not lulled with the degree, because maintaining is more difficult than getting the title.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: nidacoinlove on May 23, 2017, 05:55:45 AM I think bitcoin is still survive up to right now and it will be more growing up over next day,week, month even the years Bitcoin is much stronger now a days since lot of country now are accepting bitcoin and it helps a lot to make bitcoin value to be stronger and continuous to increase, and we are see now that bitcoin will reach $3000 before this month end.many people around the the world started investing in bitcoin. We can see the capitalization of markets bitcoin also price of bitcoin is growing up too, it is mean bitcoin is survive although it is still new in instrument of investments. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: camelson on May 23, 2017, 05:59:10 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Obviously Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency. When it come to survival, bitcoin already survived as it's price gone past 2000$ and market capitalization exponentially raised in past month or so to almost $37B. It seems that world is now recognizing the value of BTC. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Happydd on May 23, 2017, 06:02:55 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Obviously Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency. When it come to survival, bitcoin already survived as it's price gone past 2000$ and market capitalization exponentially raised in past month or so to almost $37B. It seems that world is now recognizing the value of BTC. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: crairezx20 on May 23, 2017, 06:10:38 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Obviously Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency. When it come to survival, bitcoin already survived as it's price gone past 2000$ and market capitalization exponentially raised in past month or so to almost $37B. It seems that world is now recognizing the value of BTC. But these days we are experience of high price increase of the altcoin the same as bitcoin that increasing price quickly hoping that we can get also the benefits of the price increase of every altcoins. . Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Reid on May 23, 2017, 06:17:17 AM It is the king of all the crypto currencies.
Others are just alternatives and created in the image of bitcoin. ;D Your posts is from May 17 and it grows more up until now. If you meant about the transaction fees which is really a problem and the long time waiting then it made a good effect specially to those who have small amounts. In my side, I was forced to hold it denying the payment I will make which I dont want to spend. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: DoublerHunter on May 23, 2017, 06:43:04 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Obviously Bitcoin is the king of cryptocurrency. When it come to survival, bitcoin already survived as it's price gone past 2000$ and market capitalization exponentially raised in past month or so to almost $37B. It seems that world is now recognizing the value of BTC. But these days we are experience of high price increase of the altcoin the same as bitcoin that increasing price quickly hoping that we can get also the benefits of the price increase of every altcoins. . Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Sadlife on May 23, 2017, 07:14:16 AM It still the king of crypto currency and will be forever be no. 1 in altcoins and also fiat, it is actually doing pretty good maintaining it's price value and still increasing it's total market is $30 bln because is showing us how strong it it is despite of the scaling issue.
Once segwit is implemented it should regain it's dominance in the market anr soar up. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: aniespresident on May 23, 2017, 07:17:42 AM What do you think? Bitkoin is a miracle, never the end. Maybe you do not know much about what bitcoin and bitcoin history are. As long as the world has not doomed bitcoin will rule the world, hahahaha
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: alexsamudra on May 23, 2017, 08:09:50 AM Bitcoins will always remain for as long as their names are known and those that have not handled unconfirmed transactions, as bitcoin users always increase.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: celested on May 23, 2017, 08:22:28 AM Bitcoins will always remain for as long as their names are known and those that have not handled unconfirmed transactions, as bitcoin users always increase. This will probably be solved, segwit is the measure taken, with larger blocks and decentralization, I'm sure all issues will be dealt with.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Wandering Soul~ on May 23, 2017, 08:30:38 AM Bitcoins is the main and other cryptocoins is just a copy of bitcoin that is why they are called altcoin because we are just use it as alternative.. The word copy is kind of off and rude to some developers to use . Copy refers to exactly the same thing .The word "based" or "was inspired by" is more fitting to use . Even bitcoin itself was inspired by some digital coins which you can search on the internet . The difference is bitcoin is better than them ofc with the help of its growing communitty .But these days we are experience of high price increase of the altcoin the same as bitcoin that increasing price quickly hoping that we can get also the benefits of the price increase of every altcoins. . What do you think? Bitkoin is a miracle, never the end. Maybe you do not know much about what bitcoin and bitcoin history are. Maybe you're the one who don't know much about it . Bitcoin is not a miracle, It doesn't happened magically . All of its achievements can be explained by facts .As long as the world has not doomed bitcoin will rule the world, hahahaha Bitcoin will lose its value if there are no miners and users .Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: batang_bitcoin on May 23, 2017, 08:42:20 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto When it was launched it was already the king of crypto's. Because upon its launched, it is the first ever decentralized crypto currency that has been made for people that loves anonymity. There's no need for it to prove as it has proved a lot of things already.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: V1saya on May 23, 2017, 08:46:59 AM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto When it was launched it was already the king of crypto's. Because upon its launched, it is the first ever decentralized crypto currency that has been made for people that loves anonymity. There's no need for it to prove as it has proved a lot of things already.Perhaps he means that king bitcoin is just proving that he still rules. As we observe the last few days ripple is trying to become half the worth of bitcoin. Bitcoin have problems yet to solved so other alts are taking advantage. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: deisik on May 23, 2017, 08:58:04 AM Are you hinting that there's a possibility of a plunge? Gonna stash some money now for buying cheap later! LOL. ;D I would have been more apprehensive of bitcoin's survival due to the forking debate if Japan and Australia had not recognized it. We'll probably get through this just fine. Like someone here already said, there are bumps on the road. If you got into bitcoins, that means you are willing to risk the money you invested in this. If the money has already gained more than 50% from what it was when you invested, why be worried with a small drop like 20% or so? :) There's no way this hype train is going to last. Seriously. The amount of spikes the price has had in the last couple weeks are ridiculous and it can't keep up. Seems extremely similar to the situation a few years ago when we soared past 1,000. I feel like anyone that has jumped on the bandwagon around this price tag will get burned soon It is similar only in the rates by which Bitcoin prices grows But the underlying reasons are completely different. Back then we had only one major exchange, so that exchange could make the price as high as they saw necessary (read they directly manipulated the Bitcoin price). This is no longer the case now with quite a few Bitcoin exchanges scattered all over the place. The current price has plenty of speculative element in it without doubt, but, on the other hand, this has always been so. Therefore we can't actually claim that the price of 2,000 dollars per Bitcoin as of today has higher chances of crashing than, say, when the price was at 1,000 dollars (though this is a bit counterintuitive) Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Dimelord on May 23, 2017, 12:42:24 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto It would survive .Being the pioneer in crypto currency market,bitcoin has gained trust among people.Lots of actions taken by banks and governments to destroy bitcoin.But bitcoin still survives.BU was such an action taken to pump some altcoins and gain huge profits.Even with high transaction fees,bitcoin price is still increasing.People have realized the true potential of bitcoin.I think no panic selling would occur here after. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Kelvinid on May 23, 2017, 02:04:40 PM Of course bitcoin will survive over the next days because of its flexibility and transparency.People will continue to stick on bitcoin because they have experienced already what had bitcoin done in their lives.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: cpfreeplz on May 23, 2017, 02:14:12 PM Bitcoin will lose its value if there are no miners and users . People will not be able to live on this planet if there is no air or water. No matter how you put it, if there are a handful of miners and a handful of nodes bitcoins will still exist. The user base would be small and the price would reflect accordingly but it would still exist and you could still trade it to other people that accept bitcoins. And I think what people forget about is bitcoin can change and adapt over time. If another altcoin somehow makes some leap in technology that's better than bitcoins, bitcoins can hard fork to implement that technology. There aren't really any better technologies at the moment. Most have worse scalability and even more are just useless clones. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Ekanenf on May 23, 2017, 02:59:52 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Check its status right now, its price? You might going to be shock about it. Because the proof is already there, bitcoin is the King of all the coins here in the cryptoworld. Though bitcoin is King of all the coins here because of its solidity even though no one used bitcoin when the first time it was launched on the crypto world. But right now? Look where bitcoin is, it is in the sky, soaring up high and will continue on rising up because of the bitcoin's population is increasing also. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: deisik on May 23, 2017, 03:31:00 PM Bitcoin will lose its value if there are no miners and users . People will not be able to live on this planet if there is no air or water. No matter how you put it, if there are a handful of miners and a handful of nodes bitcoins will still exist. The user base would be small and the price would reflect accordingly but it would still exist and you could still trade it to other people that accept bitcoins. And I think what people forget about is bitcoin can change and adapt over time. If another altcoin somehow makes some leap in technology that's better than bitcoins, bitcoins can hard fork to implement that technology. There aren't really any better technologies at the moment. Most have worse scalability and even more are just useless clones "Disruptive technologies are going to disrupt" Whatever a novice altcoin could come up with will likely not be worth implementing in Bitcoin even if it could be done. On the other hand, if some genuinely new technology springs up eventually, Bitcoin may not be able to adopt it and adapt to it since that would likely mean making a copy-cat of that new disruptive coin. Even despite the fact that it might be worth implementing. But don't ask me what it could be, the only thing that I can claim for sure in this respect is that the absence of proof is not proof of absence Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: KesoNie on May 23, 2017, 03:38:53 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto it will survive i dont have any doubt on it, i still believe that bitcoin will survive no matter will happen. bitcoin reaches this value now , it only come from small amount before but now, the price is better more better than before. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: infer on May 23, 2017, 03:58:32 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1928093.msg19145867#msg19145867
Look at this post. If they can turn it into the reality, Bitcoin can easily return to the path and start to increase the prices significant and more people will be attracted to Bitcoin. The fees will be lower and more transactions can be confirmed in 1 day Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: BADecker on May 23, 2017, 04:04:57 PM When average, Joe public realizes that anybody can get into Bitcoin as an investment - for free - who knows what he will do? In virtually all investments there is some middleman, some write-up, some governmental regulation. But here is something that is rising rapidly in value, and has a long way to go, potentially. And there is little regulation. Whit will average, Jo public do?
8) Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: dunfida on May 23, 2017, 04:10:12 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto it will survive i dont have any doubt on it, i still believe that bitcoin will survive no matter will happen. bitcoin reaches this value now , it only come from small amount before but now, the price is better more better than before. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: marcuslong on May 23, 2017, 04:33:48 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Other's think bitcoin will be dead at the end of the day because of craziness bitcoin price can't predict when anymore its rapidly increasing day by day. Its on hype mode also no one can predict when bitcoin is going to die it will be surprize for sure and hope this won't happen anymore long live for bitcoin.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Dart18 on May 23, 2017, 04:36:11 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Why does it need to prove it when it already did. Not just because of the late transaction to which it can be said it is not worrh to be a king of crypto. Many have used it and made their life essier already. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Souldream on May 23, 2017, 04:42:15 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Why does it need to prove it when it already did. Not just because of the late transaction to which it can be said it is not worrh to be a king of crypto. Many have used it and made their life essier already. yeah i agree, bitcoin will always survive no matter what it is, it continues to grow each year, and continues to take the lead in the market. it already proven itself in the market and no doubt that it could be more stronger. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: CraigWrightBTC on May 23, 2017, 04:56:56 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Why does it need to prove it when it already did. Not just because of the late transaction to which it can be said it is not worrh to be a king of crypto. Many have used it and made their life essier already. yeah i agree, bitcoin will always survive no matter what it is, it continues to grow each year, and continues to take the lead in the market. it already proven itself in the market and no doubt that it could be more stronger. lighting network and bitcoin unlimited, price of bitcoin is increase because of one of this solution will be activated on bitcoin's network, so bitcoin will be always survive for long time. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Supercrypt on May 23, 2017, 05:31:23 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto Wait, so it isn't? I mean it's very clear that Bitcoin IS the current King of crypto's, I mean just compare its market cap with other crypto's its around 10 times more. If BTC survives over next days, which it most likely will, I will just continue being the king.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: batang_bitcoin on May 23, 2017, 09:47:01 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto When it was launched it was already the king of crypto's. Because upon its launched, it is the first ever decentralized crypto currency that has been made for people that loves anonymity. There's no need for it to prove as it has proved a lot of things already.Perhaps he means that king bitcoin is just proving that he still rules. As we observe the last few days ripple is trying to become half the worth of bitcoin. Bitcoin have problems yet to solved so other alts are taking advantage. There might be issues that wanted to be fixed by bitcoin core devs. And with the problems that you are saying they are already working on it. Even ripple will get to half the worth of bitcoin or any higher price, still bitcoin will remain as the highest valued crypto currency and that is going to be for a longer term. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: olushakes on May 23, 2017, 09:59:19 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto One thing that I can very much be sure of in the crypto world is the survival of bitcoin beyond any other thing. Bitcoin has face several challenges since its inception with several people predicting its death, calling it a ponzi scheme, news from the Chinese that have made prices crashes to a low point but it still survives and based on this historical analysis, I am sure bitcoin will still survives and not only the next few days but net few months then next few years. Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: khan149 on May 27, 2017, 10:05:29 PM I will agree to this your statement because bitcoin currency is to be bright for future.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: coerdy on July 05, 2017, 11:10:39 AM Bitcoin will develop in the next coming days. Many governments will understand the beauty of the new payment method and implement in real-time processes.
Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Warry on July 05, 2017, 12:23:24 PM ...it will prove it's the king of crypto So Bitcoin is basically dead but if Bitcoin can survive, Bitocin still needs some requirements to be the king of crypto. Its big fees and long time confirmations are its biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Fredomago on July 05, 2017, 12:29:31 PM Bitcoin will develop in the next coming days. Many governments will understand the beauty of the new payment method and implement in real-time processes. quoting this good impact for crypto lovers if government adopt the system for sure it will bring huge rise up, as we know that the government is the first thing to convince so adoption will be easy for everyone around the globe.Title: Re: If BTC really survives over the next days... Post by: Yuhee on July 05, 2017, 12:41:26 PM Bitcoin will develop in the next coming days. Many governments will understand the beauty of the new payment method and implement in real-time processes. quoting this good impact for crypto lovers if government adopt the system for sure it will bring huge rise up, as we know that the government is the first thing to convince so adoption will be easy for everyone around the globe.Well as to this day many countries are starting to adopt it but not totally the bitcoin itself. Some are making there own crypto for there own gains. There might come a time that btc will fall down but it will always be known as the progenator of cryptocurrencies. Adapting might be easy but making there own blockchain might be difficult. So it would be better if a country should acknowledge btc first in there owm trading for better recognition upon its citizen. |