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Title: hidden mining software in windows/osx?
Post by: wolverine.ks on May 01, 2013, 07:34:48 PM
if you were Apple or Microsoft, would you put hidden mining software in your next operating system?


 you could steal just a few unused cycles?


 how many systems have windows /osx?


 how many cycles would be profitable?


 could it be detected?


Title: Re: hidden mining software in windows/osx?
Post by: Killdozer on May 01, 2013, 07:37:39 PM
Hell no

no

a lot

it wouldn't be profitable

hell yes.

(As an extra, look up ASICs and the current/projected difficulty, and also see how much an average CPU produces).


Title: Re: hidden mining software in windows/osx?
Post by: wolverine.ks on May 01, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
Im not a miner or good at math so im not familiar with all the numbers so forgive me if im waaaay off

Redmondpie reports 700 million copies of windows 7 sold as of a year ago.

if some computers have shared cpu, and some have dedicated gpu, and say 1% of cycles redirected to hashing...

could we estimate the average hashing power per copy of windows would be 10 MH/sec?

If we redirect 1% thats reduced to .1 MH/sec.

700 million copies would be 70,000 GH/sec?

Additionally, the scandal you referenced is about software that was installed onto a windows machine, not something baked into windows itself.

if microsoft hide the code in the os, would it still be detectable, even if it stole very few unused cycles per computer?


Title: Re: hidden mining software in windows/osx?
Post by: Kluge on May 01, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Search Carrier IQ, then. Still not exactly what you want, but closer.


Title: Re: hidden mining software in windows/osx?
Post by: XoreaX on May 01, 2013, 08:16:21 PM

if microsoft hide the code in the os, would it still be detectable, even if it stole very few unused cycles per computer?

Extremely detectable in the form of network traffic