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Title: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Crypt_Current on May 01, 2013, 10:32:51 PM
FINALLY.  Only been waiting since 9/2012.

Speculate.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Crypt_Current on May 01, 2013, 10:34:37 PM
http://us6.campaign-archive1.com/?u=5015fc3486176144c53751877&id=3af5f83481&e=07b9e37e2a


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Rampion on May 01, 2013, 10:36:25 PM
They just ask you to confirm you accept whatever they ship you whenever they ship.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Crypt_Current on May 01, 2013, 10:41:08 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/3150v1j.png


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: BitcoinAshley on May 01, 2013, 10:48:07 PM
Does this mean Smoothie gets to change his sig?  :D


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: smoothie on May 01, 2013, 10:53:02 PM
Does this mean Smoothie gets to change his sig?  :D

What you mean? My sig is still legit  :P


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Frizz23 on May 01, 2013, 11:01:38 PM
FINALLY.  Only been waiting since 9/2012.

No, your Jalapeno is not on it's way.

BFL just sent you a nice letter with lots of yadda yadda. The interesting part is this here:

"Please be advised that [1]due to the adjustments described above, we need your confirmation prior to release of your order into the final build queue and on to final delivery.  It may also be a good time to [2]review your purchase altogether relative to the bitcoin market as this is the last opportunity to do so.  If your order is not confirmed, it will be canceled and your money will be refunded. "

They did this because of legal reasons - to be on the save side:
[1] They screwed up power and performance, so they want to get your OK.
[2] They screwed up shipment dates - and know that it will take a long, long time before your units will be shipped - and difficulty will have sky rocketed and you only make a fraction of the Bitcoins that you would have made had BFL shipped on time. They want to get your OK for that too.

Basically it's like a blank check for BFL: "OK we screwed up big time but you have to sign here XXX and confirm that this is still OK with you".

Not that some of you guys come up with the idea of suing them ...  ;)


Wake up, people!
They're doing this not because they are such a customer-friendly company - they are doing this for a reason.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: PuertoLibre on May 01, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
FINALLY.  Only been waiting since 9/2012.

No, your Jalapeno is not on it's way.

BFL just sent you a nice letter with lots of yadda yadda. The interesting part is this here:

"Please be advised that [1]due to the adjustments described above, we need your confirmation prior to release of your order into the final build queue and on to final delivery.  It may also be a good time to [2]review your purchase altogether relative to the bitcoin market as this is the last opportunity to do so.  If your order is not confirmed, it will be canceled and your money will be refunded. "

They did this because of legal reasons - to be on the save side:
[1] They screwed up power and performance, so they want to get your OK.
[2] They screwed up shipment dates - and know that it will take a long, long time before your units will be shipped - and difficulty will have sky rocketed and you only make a fraction of the Bitcoins that you would have made had BFL shipped on time. They want to get your OK for that too.

Basically it's like a blank check for BFL: "OK we screwed up big time but you have to sign here XXX and confirm that this is still OK with you".

Not that some of you guys come up with the idea of suing them ...  ;)


Wake up, people!
They're doing this not because they are such a customer-friendly company - they are doing this for a reason.
Bingo,

It appears Frizz is astute (and logical) enough to figure that out instantly.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: smoothie on May 01, 2013, 11:07:14 PM
FINALLY.  Only been waiting since 9/2012.

No, your Jalapeno is not on it's way.

BFL just sent you a nice letter with lots of yadda yadda. The interesting part is this here:

"Please be advised that [1]due to the adjustments described above, we need your confirmation prior to release of your order into the final build queue and on to final delivery.  It may also be a good time to [2]review your purchase altogether relative to the bitcoin market as this is the last opportunity to do so.  If your order is not confirmed, it will be canceled and your money will be refunded. "

They did this because of legal reasons - to be on the save side:
[1] They screwed up power and performance, so they want to get your OK.
[2] They screwed up shipment dates - and know that it will take a long, long time before your units will be shipped - and difficulty will have sky rocketed and you only make a fraction of the Bitcoins that you would have made had BFL shipped on time. They want to get your OK for that too.

Basically it's like a blank check for BFL: "OK we screwed up big time but you have to sign here XXX and confirm that this is still OK with you".

Not that some of you guys come up with the idea of suing them ...  ;)


Wake up, people!
They're doing this not because they are such a customer-friendly company - they are doing this for a reason.

+1 well said. Hopefully someone is saved from any more grief


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: DPoS on May 01, 2013, 11:12:04 PM
Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[08004] [1040] Too many connections' in /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php:129 Stack trace: #0 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php(129): PDO->__construct('mysql:host=loca...', 'zend_admin', '3ErK5wqJ6bTUgxk', Array) #1 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Mysql.php(109): Zend_Db_Adapter_Pdo_Abstract->_connect() #2 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Abstract.php(315): Zend_Db_Adapter_Pdo_Mysql->_connect() #3 /var/web/bflweb/application/Bootstrap.php(203): Zend_Db_Adapter_Abstract->getConnection() #4 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(667): Bootstrap->_initCharsetDB() #5 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(620): Zend_Application_Bootstrap_BootstrapAbstract->_executeResource('charsetdb') #6 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(584): Zend_Application_Bootstrap_BootstrapAbstract->_bootstrap(NULL) in /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php on line 144


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Crypt_Current on May 01, 2013, 11:12:42 PM
lol trollz


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: shapemaker on May 01, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
PDO->__construct('mysql:host=loca...', 'zend_admin', '3ErK5wqJ6bTUgxk', Array)

Fer chrissakes, the incompetency... ???


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Tamerz on May 01, 2013, 11:29:47 PM

Fer chrissakes, the incompetency... ???

I'm just hoping that password is only for that account, and only allowed to log in locally.

EDIT: They just said in the shoutbox it has been changed already.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: shapemaker on May 01, 2013, 11:35:06 PM
EDIT: They just said in the shoutbox it has been changed already.

Aaaand the next error will throw the next password out until they change the debug output too...


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: erk on May 01, 2013, 11:47:00 PM
These database driven sites just don't seem to be able to handle a moderate number of hits without some elaborate server setup.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: centove on May 01, 2013, 11:51:26 PM
These database driven sites just don't seem to be able to handle a moderate number of hits without some elaborate server setup.

They do okay if you have dedicated hardware to handle the DB load. (IE a web server & a DB server as two separate physical machines)


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Quix on May 02, 2013, 12:02:05 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

BTW, disabling diagnostic errors on public-facing sites is COMPSCI101 stuff. If this happened on a webapp I'd worked on I would be fired on the spot.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: DPoS on May 02, 2013, 12:02:56 AM
they are learning..


There has been an error processing your request Exception printing is disabled by default for security reasons.

Error log record number: 604414173345
..


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: DPoS on May 02, 2013, 12:09:10 AM
good that they had people around while they sent out that email to clean things up

this shows now on the other error:


"Unable to connect to database"


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Inaba on May 02, 2013, 12:10:06 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

BTW, disabling diagnostic errors on public-facing sites is COMPSCI101 stuff. If this happened on a webapp I'd worked on I would be fired on the spot.

I agree... someone is going to get ... schooled ... tomorrow.  I'm very displeased at the moment.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Frizz23 on May 02, 2013, 12:18:48 AM
I agree... someone is going to get ... schooled ... tomorrow.

You're talking about BFL_Josh now? Your alter ego / split personality?

Quote
 I'm very displeased at the moment.

... with yourself? ;D



Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: k9quaint on May 02, 2013, 01:26:53 AM
Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[08004] [1040] Too many connections' in /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php:129 Stack trace: #0 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php(129): PDO->__construct('mysql:host=loca...', 'zend_admin', '3ErK5wqJ6bTUgxk', Array) #1 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Mysql.php(109): Zend_Db_Adapter_Pdo_Abstract->_connect() #2 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Abstract.php(315): Zend_Db_Adapter_Pdo_Mysql->_connect() #3 /var/web/bflweb/application/Bootstrap.php(203): Zend_Db_Adapter_Abstract->getConnection() #4 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(667): Bootstrap->_initCharsetDB() #5 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(620): Zend_Application_Bootstrap_BootstrapAbstract->_executeResource('charsetdb') #6 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(584): Zend_Application_Bootstrap_BootstrapAbstract->_bootstrap(NULL) in /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php on line 144

Woosh, there went their customers passwords.
I hope they salted their hashes.  :(
I hope they hashed them. :(


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Bogart on May 02, 2013, 01:48:43 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

BTW, disabling diagnostic errors on public-facing sites is COMPSCI101 stuff. If this happened on a webapp I'd worked on I would be fired on the spot.

I agree... someone is going to get ... schooled ... tomorrow.  I'm very displeased at the moment.

It's good he's only displeased.  You wouldn't like him when he's angry.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: modrobert on May 02, 2013, 07:22:50 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

Tell that to Facebook.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: YipYip on May 02, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

Tell that to Facebook.

You can build a house out of straw or bricks ....both are houses but some are easier and better at doing certain things

Bricks are harder in the short term but better & sturdier in the long run ...straw ..fast but a bit all over the place and not that sturdy ...if a thread unravels it seems to pull on another thread of straw

Its all about effort and what the end target result is needed

So Facebook...sure u can use straw but they will have basicall written there own php framework to achieve their result .....how much efforty did it take to get this result ....A FRICKEN SHITLOAD!!!! ...lol



Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Enigma81 on May 02, 2013, 08:43:27 AM
PHP isn't very good for scaling, every request is a totally separate action and it doesn't look like they're using caching. What PHP is good for is small stuff because it's quick and easy to understand.

Tell that to Facebook.

Facebook uses PHP - but it's heavily modified, and it's not used for modules that it isn't suited to.

Quote from: Yishan Sparklepants Wong
The reason Facebook hasn't migrated away from PHP is because it has incumbent inertia (it's what's there) and Facebook's engineers have managed to work around many of its flaws through a combination of patches at all levels of the stack and excellent internal discipline via code convention and style - the worst attributes of the language are avoided and coding style is rigidly enforced through a fairly tight culture of code review (failing to adhere to the style and "going cowboy" by writing sloppy code results in pitiless mockery by one's peers). Engineering management has never had to take a strong hand here; this arose largely due to key internal technical leaders just sort of corralling everyone else along.

There is also a lot of industry precedent indicating that re-writing an entire codebase in another language is usually one of the worst things you can do, so at all levels there is a reluctance to do that. The preferred strategy is to write new components in a de-coupled manner using a better language of choice (C++, python, Erlang, Java, etc); this is easily facilitated by Facebook's early development of thrift, an efficient multi-language RPC framework. This also helps avoid the worst effects of PHP: it can be totally avoided in subcomponents where the language is grossly-unsuitable. The broad effect is that the overall codebase slowly evolves away from depending as heavily on PHP, with the components that are still in PHP being written in tightly-controlled, disciplined ways by veteran members of the staff.

Enigma


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Schrankwand on May 02, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[08004] [1040] Too many connections' in /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php:129 Stack trace: #0 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php(129): PDO->__construct('mysql:host=loca...', 'zend_admin', '3ErK5wqJ6bTUgxk', Array) #1 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Mysql.php(109): Zend_Db_Adapter_Pdo_Abstract->_connect() #2 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Abstract.php(315): Zend_Db_Adapter_Pdo_Mysql->_connect() #3 /var/web/bflweb/application/Bootstrap.php(203): Zend_Db_Adapter_Abstract->getConnection() #4 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(667): Bootstrap->_initCharsetDB() #5 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(620): Zend_Application_Bootstrap_BootstrapAbstract->_executeResource('charsetdb') #6 /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Application/Bootstrap/BootstrapAbstract.php(584): Zend_Application_Bootstrap_BootstrapAbstract->_bootstrap(NULL) in /var/web/bflweb/library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Pdo/Abstract.php on line 144

Woosh, there went their customers passwords.
I hope they salted their hashes.  :(
I hope they hashed them. :(

Changed password, made it more random and longer, thanks for noticing everyone.


Title: Re: Just received official email from BFL, my Jale's are on the way...
Post by: Tamerz on May 02, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
Changed password, made it more random and longer, thanks for noticing everyone.

They changed it to the minirig shipping date. Nobody will ever figure it out.



...sorry, had to do it  ;D