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Have to feel sorry for this guy https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-man-slays-neo-nazi-roommates-over-islam-172952811.html

An adolescent raised on phony wars, doing as he was taught.

Time for outer space where the challenges will be real.

People converting to any other religion does not create problems. I have seen guys who had recently converted to religions such as Buddhism, Judaism and even atheism. But they are normal people. Only individuals who convert to Islam create issues.

That is a racist view. These comments sparks rage then to many Islam believers and some of them go and make extreme acts. How can you say Buddhism is even a religion, it's just a guy who just copied 10 amendements from the Bible lol. Many other people are converting to Islam and not creating issues also. The people who create issues are the ones who are indoctrinated with the extremists group ideology of radical Islam like ISIS. Same as extremists in any other religion who create issues.

I'm not sure what to say on this one, he killed his Neo-Nazi brethren and converted his identify to radical Islam while still believing in Nazi-ideology, then because of internal disputes he killed them for disrespecting his views and may have stopped a planned terror attack in the making because the cops found explosives/radioactive substances in that room.

Well all I can say is you can't make this stuff up can you.

Calm your white horse, Mr. Knight. Islam is not a race. It is a religion with its own complete value system.

Now, every population of planet. Every single one. Produces something like 5-10% of its people with violent tendencies, the dumb ones usually fill up prisons, while the smart ones enter politics. This happens thanks to human nature, not any religion (or lack of it).

Now, where religion (moral compass) comes into play is - how can it tune energy of these individuals. For you, violence might be bad, however from historical perspective it is the very reason humanity was able to survive its infancy.

So it is about Islam aswell as human nature. Can Islam focus energy of its most proactive more productively, perhaps turning them to sports? I have no idea. But lets not cowardly pretend, that these are isolated incidents.

If there is a fault that the teenager had done was killing his neo-nazi roommates because  they insulted his conversion to Islam. But there is a positive side to that since if those two did not die they may have planted the bomb somewhere and it have killed many people. But the teenager was just unlucky if he had only reported his roommates for the possession of the bombs then he would not end up in jail.

Lol
Say that to the Muslims here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/diane-bederman/buddhist-monks-muslims_b_3805842.html

Buddhists are making a real genocide and no one gives a fuck because as we all know Islam only is the problem :D

You reverse cause and effect.

These comments do not "sparks rage" they are the truth.

Deal with it.

Yes, but you won't see other religions blowing themselves up around the world on a daily basis. Christianity is one of the most berated religions and you can clearly see it even here on the forums, and for some reason atheist fanatics usually go after Christianity, not after Islam, yet there's little to none Christian fundamentalism.

I'll be hard pressed to remember the times Christianity has been used as a motivation to bring down two skyscrapers and kill thousands of people at least in the last 20 years. Christians get offended too when people speak crap about Jesus, but they don't go on murderous rampages.

The anti Islam crowd are the spammers of modern society. Good grief. You can't even make a post without them jumping in with "Muslims are all terrorists" blah blah blah

It's not for a lack of Christian religious extremism; it just doesn't usually get labeled as such, especially in the current administration or past political climates where it has emerged. The Klu Klux Klan (full name for those bastards) has always espoused itself a Christian organization. The cross wasn't always a part of the ceremony, but the symbol isn't just there for shits and giggles.


The KKK was the most funded, nationally accepted terrorist organization in the United States. It lobbied, it even got tax breaks. Used to march down main streets with kids and ladies, waving and smiling. And burn a cross that same night in someone's yard, to scare them. That's the latter KKK, the former KKK, circa Jim Crow, actually burned you or hung you in your yard. If that's not the definition of terrorism, I don't know what is.

Terrorism is indeed a problem, but political parties are using this talking point to advance their agendas, hence all the rhetoric you hear floating around. The scapegoat that advances the agenda will be the 'issue', its easy to rally voters behind something that is a seeming black/white choice, when there are always shades of grey.

People will use any half baked excuse to force their views/will on unwilling others, religion is just a really popular method ;) any person that would perpetrate something like this is obviously not a man of God.

I will say, now that the victims of terror are the majority, terror is a very big deal ;) interesting.

In 86 years, the KKK lynched 3400 some blacks.  Let me translate this into meaningfulness.

In 86 years, the KKK killed about the same number as modern Islamic terrorists kill in two months of operations.

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Your "comparable," the KKK pretty much forms "an exception that proves the rule," rather than proving the equality of Christianity and Islam with respect to terrorism.

Face it, admit it, and let's move on.

Islam OWNS religious terrorism, lock stock and barrel.

The only genocide going on in Rakhine is the one by the Muslims, committed against the Buddhists. During the past few decades, the population of Muslims there has increased by 5-6 times, which itself contradicts the theory that a genocide is being committed against the Muslims.

Do you really think that jailing a few guys will solve the problem? There are almost 2 billion Muslims around the world right now. If you use this method, then you may have to jail at least half of them. Are you ready for that?

Jailing more than a few guys is certainly part of the process.

I wonder what the coming Singularity will do with Islamic extremist terrorists....

I agree, this 18yo was completely brainwashed without purpose or guidance. He desperately tried to cling to some beliefs, first it was nazi ideology, then islam, even more popular nowadays. A decent move would be to follow that path and find himself some muslim friends, but that dumbass went to skinheads and started talking about his new faith, no wonder it caused a massacre. One thing strikes me in this article: they say skinheads are violent and attack people, but they didn't beat him up, he killed them. That's how islam is compared to all other groups and religions, it attracts violent savages and allows them to go berserk on everyone by telling them killing in the name of faith is good, and dying for faith is good too, go and convert the world brother! ;D

I have to agree with you on that the newly converts to Islam cause even more problems than those who were born into the religion. I don't know the kinds of zeal that they have when they convert to Islam

Unlike the people who convert to non-Islamic religions, converts to Islam are mostly from the lowest levels of the society, such as mental patients, drug addicts, criminals, delinquents.etc. That may be one of the reasons.

Wikipedia has an  excellent article on Islamic Extremism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_extremism

Curiously this validates the evil of not naming it for the Islamic Extremism that it is, such as was the choice of Obama and Hillary.

Wikipedia has an  excellent article on Islamic Extremism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_extremism

Curiously this validates the evil of not naming it for the Islamic Extremism that it is, such as was the choice of Obama and Hillary.

Good for him if he feels that is the best way for him to go. All I need to be  sure of that he is responsible for his actions which I don't blame him because western nations have equally contributed to that when they now allow people to leverage in the fact that injustice is being meted out on some people in another place then the feeling of fighting for them comes in and that alone makes some decision worth taking irrespective of its consequences.

The western nations have done two major mistakes. First, they are needlessly indulging in the internal affairs of various third world countries such as Syria and Libya. Secondly, they are also allowing uneducated and culturally alien third world immigrants to migrate to their own countries.

No you don't have to feel sorry for this guy.

Rejoice that he was put behind bars, and feel sorry for the families and friends of the two that he killed.

We agree, partially. Same page on sticking our noses in shit needlessly, as a state actor. Being Big Bro is cool up the point where Lil Bro says 'get the fuck out of my room'. But the refugees aren't pure shit, and I'm pretty sure if it wasn't fucked up back home, that's exactly where they would be, merrily breeding their ass off. It's a poor situation borne of a fucked up circumstance, but it certainly does go a long way as a talking point if you don't like dark skin. ;) Give these motherfuckees a break, collectively. It's a clusterfuck where they come from. Some of them hate that extreme shit just as much as us, and are getting the fuck out ;)

The worse part is that we are responsible for creating most of the hellholes that exist in the world. A lot of these countries were decent places until the cia and mobil oil and united fruit decided to make them profitable.

And I know somebody will argue endlessly that this is not true, but the smartest people, who know the most about geopolitics say it is so.

No, you just need to find out what the actual smart people are.

Unfortunately it is not the moderates and the seculars who are applying for asylum. Rather, the crowd is mostly composed of Sunni Muslims, who sympathize with either the ISIS or the Al Qaeda. And this situation will remain unchanged as long as the EU prefer Sunni Muslim immigrants over those from the persecuted ethnic groups (Shias, Christians, Yazidis.etc).

Actually the jihad terrorists have misunderstood the meaning of jihad, they think they are indeed defending his religion but what happened he himself damaged it. Such a person is not a follower of Islam, he is a little know or not like mind.

He acted exactly as per the verses in his holy book. According to the Koran, anyone insulting Islam or its holy books needs to be exterminated. That is just what the new convert did. Now he can enjoy his 72 virgins in heaven.

The Koran is, at worst, a mild version of the old testament, written to a certain audience.

Enjoy?

But he has to find out the hard way that the 72 virgins consist of -
A) 36 hard core lesbians that would never touch him
B) 36 homosexual men attracted to his cute ass

Bigotry is the problem not religion. If a place or an ideology will make you an extremist please avoid it totally

You need to read the Koran. It has given detailed description of these houris (virgins). In addition to these 72 virgins, each of the martyr will be allotted a further 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

I was joking, as I am sure you were aware. Reality is far sicker and more perverse than my jokes.

The small minority of them, who try to integrate with the native population are demonized as "apostates" by the vast majority of the Muslims. By the time the Europeans realize their folly, it will be too late. Ever heard the story about the Arab and the camel?