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Title: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 01:40:04 AM
A payment was made from the subscription company SECONDSTRADE.COM.
https://blockchain.info/tx/7692e351a785ae8a4d1221fd4b7950ed3781b75d750ed135b6d396a4683e71e6

I did not notice this payment and filed 0.23 BTC on the withdrawal for payment on the mortgage.
afcc64c76d11ec3e41bd71c5e7a3b4b00a179835a2ee6d2ed7d75186f8d1d184

But it turned out that this damn company exhibited a very small commission, and now the second deal is stuck.

I do not know what to do now (
If before June 1 I do not make a payment, the bank will seize.

I wrote SECONDSTRADE.COM, but they ignore me.
Tried a transaction accelerator, but it does not work, and I can not pay for a paid version, since there is a problem with two transactions.

Purse on blockchain.info

Guys, what to do now?


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: HCP on May 25, 2017, 01:50:04 AM
Ok, so your transaction is stuck, because the parent transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/7692e351a785ae8a4d1221fd4b7950ed3781b75d750ed135b6d396a4683e71e6) is unconfirmed.

Until that confirms, your transaction cannot confirm. Unfortunately, that parent transaction ALSO has a parent transaction (https://blockchain.info/tx/85c1e24e29ee5188084dcee1c3e33e6083879a9d96eaff9558b8175a1448a8a1) that is unconfirmed.

Both those transactions will need to confirm before yours will... and they both use ridiculously low fees (~69 sats/byte and ~14 sats/byte ::))

So, you will need to push 85c1e24e29ee5188084dcee1c3e33e6083879a9d96eaff9558b8175a1448a8a1 using the TX Accelerator first...
Once you get a confirm on that, then push 7692e351a785ae8a4d1221fd4b7950ed3781b75d750ed135b6d396a4683e71e6
Once you get a confirm on that, then push your transaction: afcc64c76d11ec3e41bd71c5e7a3b4b00a179835a2ee6d2ed7d75186f8d1d184

Good luck!


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: hexafraction on May 25, 2017, 01:52:04 AM
Stop panicking. That doesn't help you resolve your issue. Now, your transaction doesn't leave you much change, so you can't perform a CPFP. You can't do an RBF either to the best of my knowledge. What HCP suggests involves handling a long chain of stuck transactions, which may be difficult (but doable). You could also choose to leave that one output aside for now, and double-spend the other available outputs.

Construct a new double-spend transaction using only the confirmed outputs available on 1PEF...9jvE. Sign it, and see if a miner will help you re-spend it (or see if you can get it pushed out by some other means as the previous transaction drops out of mempools). I can assist you with creating this transaction, which you'll need to sign and broadcast.

Next time, be careful not to spend unconfirmed outputs as inputs.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: HCP on May 25, 2017, 02:01:16 AM
I have submitted 85c1e24e29ee5188084dcee1c3e33e6083879a9d96eaff9558b8175a1448a8a1 to the accelerator... so that's one down... wait for ViaBTC to mine a block... then work on the 2nd and 3rd transactions.

I'd recommend not doing any more business with SecondsTrade until they learn how to pay proper fees


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 02:16:16 AM
But the accelerator constantly writes that it is necessary to try later and does not react at all (
I honestly do not understand how to sign a transaction, on balance 0.003 BTC :-[


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: hexafraction on May 25, 2017, 02:23:06 AM
But the accelerator constantly writes that it is necessary to try later and does not react at all (
I honestly do not understand how to sign a transaction, on balance 0.003 BTC :-[

Submitting to the accelerator is all about getting the timing right. Since that's underway you should pursue that route by accelerating the rest of the transactions; perhaps HCP can weigh in with hints on submitting at the right time.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 02:27:39 AM
These two TXs, the accelerator has just accepted!
85c1e24e29ee5188084dcee1c3e33e6083879a9d96eaff9558b8175a1448a8a1
7692e351a785ae8a4d1221fd4b7950ed3781b75d750ed135b6d396a4683e71e6

And on this one writes: afcc64c76d11ec3e41bd71c5e7a3b4b00a179835a2ee6d2ed7d75186f8d1d184  Submissions are beyond limit. Please try later.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: ninche on May 25, 2017, 02:52:47 AM
i will try to accelerate it


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 02:58:33 AM
i will try to accelerate it

God bless you, sir!


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 03:35:07 AM
And if the accelerator took TX, then how much to wait for confirmation?


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: hexafraction on May 25, 2017, 03:36:58 AM
Wait for a few of their blocks. It means they'll mine it eventually, but there's other transactions still waiting.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 03:42:09 AM
Wait for a few of their blocks. It means they'll mine it eventually, but there's other transactions still waiting.

Ehhh, well, I'll wait  :-[
I would have never used to contact these companies with their greed and economy.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 03:58:54 AM
By TX: 85c1e24e29ee5188084dcee1c3e33e6083879a9d96eaff9558b8175a1448a8a1
Appeared inscription: Lock Time   block: 467677

It means that now everything will be confirmed and after it is necessary to accelerate TX 7692e351a785ae8a4d1221fd4b7950ed3781b75d750ed135b6d396a4683e71e6?



Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 06:57:03 AM
Minor transactions were in the block! :D
Many thanks to those who helped!

There was one transaction and more so I will not hurry up exactly :-X
https://blockchain.info/ru/tx/afcc64c76d11ec3e41bd71c5e7a3b4b00a179835a2ee6d2ed7d75186f8d1d184


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: HCP on May 25, 2017, 07:25:23 AM
Your last transaction has a 240 sats/byte fee... there is currently around the 8 blocks worth of transactions above that level... if you're lucky, it might get confirmed in the next 24 hours by doing nothing. It is hard to predict exactly what is going to happen...

Give the ViaBTC accelerator a go... but I wouldn't stress too much ;)


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 07:27:43 AM
Your last transaction has a 240 sats/byte fee... there is currently around the 8 blocks worth of transactions above that level... if you're lucky, it might get confirmed in the next 24 hours by doing nothing. It is hard to predict exactly what is going to happen...

Give the ViaBTC accelerator a go... but I wouldn't stress too much ;)

Sir, how do you understand these levels?
The accelerator does not allow to enter the TX, I will wait until tomorrow, the main thing has been confirmed.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: TheButterZone on May 25, 2017, 07:43:38 AM
You have to hit submit on ViaBTC Accelerator at exactly xx:00:00 (<17 minutes from now).

Oops, nevermind, all TXIDs on this thread are confirmed. But same deal for anyone who uses it, it has to be at xx:00:00 or the submission limit will kill you.


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 07:53:50 AM
You have to hit submit on ViaBTC Accelerator at exactly xx:00:00 (<17 minutes from now).

But by what time?


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: HCP on May 25, 2017, 07:55:13 AM
Sir, how do you understand these levels?
The accelerator does not allow to enter the TX, I will wait until tomorrow, the main thing has been confirmed.
Have a look here: https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx

Find your fee on the left... on the right you can see the running total amount of bytes at each level under "Size Count" column. Roughly every ~1,000,000 bytes is one block worth of transactions. So, if at your level it says "3,771,244" bytes, then there is just under 4 blocks of transaction at or above your fee level.


EDIT: Oh hey... your transaction has been confirmed! YAY! :D


Title: Re: Guys urgently need help! This is a catastrophe!
Post by: Andrey123 on May 25, 2017, 08:08:59 AM
Everything was confirmed! Many thanks for your help and advice! :D