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Title: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: im3w1l on May 02, 2013, 02:41:23 PM
It is my belief that we need a mass-adopted social network that is resistant to mass-surveillance. I have tried to check on the current alternatives, but they do not seem promising. The gripe I have is that they make it possible to let a central server handle your stuff, stored unencrypted (please correct me if I have misunderstood this point, as it is central). This means you risk all your friends data, and that is unacceptable.

If the govt, wants to find your status updates, it will probably be quite easy for them to trojan one of your friends. Hence it is probably very hard to protect against pointed attacks. But we can protect against non-specific attacks, like "SELECT user FROM comments WHERE body like '%terrorism%' ". Potentially, we could maybe make it hard to connect a profile with the person who owns it.
Finally it is supposed to be user friendly and fast, so that people also actually use it.

Anyone interested in helping me develop this?


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: justusranvier on May 02, 2013, 03:29:25 PM
It would probably be easier to help with improving Freenet than it would be to make something from scratch.

http://freesocial.draketo.de/ (http://freesocial.draketo.de/)


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: BitCloud on May 02, 2013, 03:38:54 PM
are you thinking along the line of a system similar to bitcoin that keep relations in a distributed p2p database?
how are you going to save petabytes of data? trillions of photos/videos?


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: im3w1l on May 02, 2013, 03:52:48 PM
It would probably be easier to help with improving Freenet than it would be to make something from scratch.

http://freesocial.draketo.de/ (http://freesocial.draketo.de/)

If freenet is still as slow as I remember, then it wont work. What are the speeds nowadays?


Quote from: BitCloud
are you thinking along the line of a system similar to bitcoin that keep relations in a distributed p2p database?
how are you going to save petabytes of data? trillions of photos/videos?

I am thinking that the content should exist on hubs like diaspora does it (except that it should be encrypted).


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: justusranvier on May 02, 2013, 03:56:58 PM
If freenet is still as slow as I remember, then it wont work. What are the speeds nowadays?
Bulk downloads are slow, but Sone is reasonably fast now and they've even built an IRC-like chat system that works with acceptable latencies.


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: im3w1l on May 02, 2013, 03:58:04 PM
If freenet is still as slow as I remember, then it wont work. What are the speeds nowadays?
Bulk downloads are slow, but Sone is reasonably fast now and they've even built an IRC-like chat system that works with acceptable latencies.

How fast?


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: justusranvier on May 02, 2013, 05:49:30 PM
On Sone you never see the lag directly because it doesn't show you a new post until it's downloaded it. It usually takes a few minutes between someone posts and when their followers see it.

FLIP (irc client) has about 30 second latency but the developers say they could get that down to about 5 with some minor tweaks to the node networking code.


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: virtualmaster on May 04, 2013, 07:04:51 PM
It could be also something based on Namecoin.


Title: Re: Mass-Surveillance resistant social networking
Post by: Stampbit on May 04, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
The only mass surveillance resistant social networking is real life social networking.