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Title: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: mport1 on May 27, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: freebutcaged on May 27, 2017, 11:55:30 PM
There are companies helping you to cover the tracks and make your coins disappear from the eyes of everyone else and not the other way around mate sorry.

Even if you manage to find your coins then all it will take for the person having access to the private keys is to send them to a mixer and after that

There will absolutely be no possible way for anyone anymore to do anything what so ever.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: European Central Bank on May 27, 2017, 11:58:38 PM
https://www.chainalysis.com/

but i think it's gonna cost you. they mainly work for law enforcement.

even if they did trace it to an exchange, i don't see why the exchange would give up their details without warrants and stuff.

and mixers aren't foolproof.

but it looks like your loss was nearly four years ago. those coins could be scattered across a million wallets by now.



Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: mrcash02 on May 28, 2017, 12:09:54 AM
Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous, so I don't think it's impossible to track thieves. Expert hackers could help you if you pay them a good comission... These guys are like mercenaries of the virtual world, working for the good and evil depending who pays them more money. However you must know it's dangerous to deal with these people. Legit companies doing this job I'm not sure if they exist.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: ranochigo on May 28, 2017, 02:10:26 AM
It is not exactly possible to track down stolen Bitcoins, at least with a great certainty. Since addresses does not necessary have to be associated with an identity, it is hard to tie any addresses to a single entity. With mixers and localbitcoins, the process gets harder since the anonymity can be maximised.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: MingLee on May 28, 2017, 02:33:42 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?
Even if they can help you track down the stolen Bitcoin there's basically next to no chance that you're going to get it back, and there's a high likelihood that it has already been spent and sent off to a ton of different places by now anyways. It's not like you can just send transactions to x amount of different addresses and say "that money was stolen now give it back".


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: White sugar on May 28, 2017, 02:40:54 AM
Not companies, but maybe individuals, like private investigators. I don't know any and how to know if they are reliable or not, and how much would cost.

But the odds are against you, specially if you and the thief aren't in the same country


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 28, 2017, 02:44:21 AM
Stolen bitcoins are almost impossible to track, unless the thief is stupid enough to leave behind easily traceable information. For amount like 40BTC, I think you should just move on. This is why the Wannacry ransomware only accept bitcoin.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: TheButterZone on May 28, 2017, 02:47:43 AM
Bitfloor BTC status should tell you everything.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: TrumpD on May 28, 2017, 07:21:04 AM
Do you know the wallet your bitcoins were stolen from? If yes, it is not impossible to track them. But I am afraid that is where it stops. Tracking them is one thing, recovering them is another. On the other hand, the hacker could have used a mixing service, and tracing the coins could be almost impossible. These mixers can create micro payments to different wallets - say about 20,000 transactions. Keep in mind even f you can track down the money as the addresses are anonymous and untouchable by everyone else besides the owner of it there's nothing you can do.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: DoublerHunter on May 28, 2017, 07:24:20 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?
I don't think that there is an existing company that will help you to track down bitcoin because in the first place, bitcoin is anonymous and it is not that easy to locate or track down. Even most of the well known groups didn't know how to track so it is impossible for me to track down stolen bitcoin unless you use a centralized online wallet.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Boseda on May 28, 2017, 07:36:17 AM
Since Bitcoin transactions are public and mixers don't work so well, I believe it's not so difficult to track your coins.

The thing which is more difficult is to find the current owner(s) of your coins. If the ones who stole your coins are "good" enough I guess the y left no traces...

Very sad for you! Anyway, can you please tell how did they steal your Bitcoins? Did they crack your email account associated with blockchain?


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: panju1 on May 28, 2017, 08:13:29 AM
Since Bitcoin transactions are public and mixers don't work so well, I believe it's not so difficult to track your coins.

The thing which is more difficult is to find the current owner(s) of your coins. If the ones who stole your coins are "good" enough I guess the y left no traces...

Very sad for you! Anyway, can you please tell how did they steal your Bitcoins? Did they crack your email account associated with blockchain?

Has there been any case where stolen bitcoins have been found and restored?
If you use established mixers like Bitmixer.io, it becomes very difficult to establish links between bitcoin addresses.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Nagadota on May 28, 2017, 09:29:40 AM
Since Bitcoin transactions are public and mixers don't work so well, I believe it's not so difficult to track your coins.

The thing which is more difficult is to find the current owner(s) of your coins. If the ones who stole your coins are "good" enough I guess the y left no traces...

Very sad for you! Anyway, can you please tell how did they steal your Bitcoins? Did they crack your email account associated with blockchain?
Bitcoin is very hard to track down if they've run it through mixers and spent it by now, which is almost certain.  It's also near certain that if they exchanged it to fiat, they used a peer-to-peer service like LocalBitcoins instead of one in which you have to verify your identity.

OP, I'm sorry but unless you have shitloads of money and/or police level abilities, it'll be hard to track these people down.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Ayers on May 28, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
Stolen bitcoins are almost impossible to track, unless the thief is stupid enough to leave behind easily traceable information. For amount like 40BTC, I think you should just move on. This is why the Wannacry ransomware only accept bitcoin.

it can be tracked , if he did not mix his coin with a mixer, or if he did not use an exchange to sell for an altcoin, and even so you can track it because  amixer and exchange keep the log and your trade activity, a trace should always remain behind, impossible to not leave anything


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: bitcoin199 on May 28, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
You don't even need a company to track bitcoins, You can easily follow them or hire someone and will reach the ends addresses or exchange addresses, however that's a waste of time:
* if the hacker was an idiot, you would end up at his exchanges account somewhere, it will be hard to know if it's an exchange address or not, and even if you did, majority won't cooperate and are in hard-to-follow legally countries.
* if the hacker is a little smarter, it was mixed multiple times and hence these coins are in someone else's wallet now.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: pearlmen on May 28, 2017, 10:03:35 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?

My humble suggestion "move on" simply because you don't expect someone to steal as much as that btc and still be kept in a wallet where it can be found considering that amount must have move from one account to several account, could have moved through several exchange site and most importantly mixing services where it could have been turned to a brand new btc without any trace whatsoever.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Zicadis on May 28, 2017, 10:17:15 AM
there is definitely going to be a paper trail but seeing that coins were actually lost 4 years ago makes the whole process an impossible task  with coins scattered all over the network .

Your best shot at getting the person that wiped your wallet would be track that iphones ip address.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: peter0425 on May 28, 2017, 10:40:42 AM
I'm sorry for your lost dude. It will be very difficult to track and identified who have stolen your bitcoin.  Because you know it is psuedo-anonymous. They maybe already spending it and have converted it to fiat by now. Mixers is the hackers friend here, it he/she put it in a mixer then its hard to tracked it. Sorry.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Xester on May 28, 2017, 10:43:58 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?

There are no companies that are experts on this and that will do some investigative searching for the stolen bitcoin. The only possible way is to coordinate with government authorities and hire a blockchain expert so that you can search where your bitcoins had gone and you will have a chance to catch the culprit. But even though with such strategy catching the culprit is very thin since they can store their bitcoin in their offline wallet.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: krishnapramod on May 28, 2017, 10:54:46 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?

Buddy get used to the term "decentralized". It is not like your funds were in the bank and you can demand or sue the bank for your losses. Being an individual if your coins get lost, there is not much you can do. You can obviously file a legal complaint, investigation gets through your source of coins, if you had fulfilled the legalities (taxes) while you had these coins in your possession, too much drama. Filing a complaint to a governing authority regarding BTC takes away the whole effort you put into using a decentralized currency.

As far as bounty hunters are concerned, I do not think mate they would able to track down your coins. When an institution scams like exchanges, wallets etc they are somewhat under government regulations and rules and even in such cases it would take years to get even a small percentage of the amount we got scammed. So be careful about your coins in future.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Siren on May 28, 2017, 11:29:54 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?

Buddy get used to the term "decentralized". It is not like your funds were in the bank and you can demand or sue the bank for your losses. Being an individual if your coins get lost, there is not much you can do. You can obviously file a legal complaint, investigation gets through your source of coins, if you had fulfilled the legalities (taxes) while you had these coins in your possession, too much drama. Filing a complaint to a governing authority regarding BTC takes away the whole effort you put into using a decentralized currency.

As far as bounty hunters are concerned, I do not think mate they would able to track down your coins. When an institution scams like exchanges, wallets etc they are somewhat under government regulations and rules and even in such cases it would take years to get even a small percentage of the amount we got scammed. So be careful about your coins in future.

If the hackers used a local exchangers, you could possible identify as exchangers have a KYC and AML regulation and the account he used should submit personal information to identify the hackers.

But if there is a company to help you track and identify the hackers, I think there are none as far as I know.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: kelceyott on May 28, 2017, 11:32:03 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?

I'm afraid there are not any companies that can track that. Bitcoin has very high security, if your bitcoin is stolen, I'm sure you made a mistake there, you accidentally caused a virus to infiltrate your wallet.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: northstarh on May 28, 2017, 11:42:10 AM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?

Buddy get used to the term "decentralized". It is not like your funds were in the bank and you can demand or sue the bank for your losses. Being an individual if your coins get lost, there is not much you can do. You can obviously file a legal complaint, investigation gets through your source of coins, if you had fulfilled the legalities (taxes) while you had these coins in your possession, too much drama. Filing a complaint to a governing authority regarding BTC takes away the whole effort you put into using a decentralized currency.

As far as bounty hunters are concerned, I do not think mate they would able to track down your coins. When an institution scams like exchanges, wallets etc they are somewhat under government regulations and rules and even in such cases it would take years to get even a small percentage of the amount we got scammed. So be careful about your coins in future.

If the hackers used a local exchangers, you could possible identify as exchangers have a KYC and AML regulation and the account he used should submit personal information to identify the hackers.

But if there is a company to help you track and identify the hackers, I think there are none as far as I know.

With my understanding, there is not any company that can track the bitcoin, even the bitcoin head can not investigate the origin of the transaction, bitcoin is too high security, so it become special


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: DomainReseller on May 29, 2017, 02:34:39 PM
There are plenty of taint analysis methods available for free online, even if it's divided to multiple address after thousands of TX's, you will even know how much of the tainted money is in which address. However mixer's can ruin this if the person uses them, as you would need the info from the mixer about the sent-to address (which they will never provide).


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Kprawn on May 29, 2017, 03:04:19 PM
there is definitely going to be a paper trail but seeing that coins were actually lost 4 years ago makes the whole process an impossible task  with coins scattered all over the network .

Your best shot at getting the person that wiped your wallet would be track that iphones ip address.

What paper trail are you talking about? This is Bitcoin... here we have a Blockchain to track coins. The problem is that stolen coins are mixed by

mixer services where they keep zero records to trace it back to the stolen coins. How are you going to track coins, when the thief might be

using stolen mobile phones? I can buy extra Sim cards on the street and the same goes for stolen phones. { Throwaway phones are common}  >:(


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: stompix on May 29, 2017, 03:50:18 PM
https://www.chainalysis.com/

but i think it's gonna cost you. they mainly work for law enforcement.

even if they did trace it to an exchange, i don't see why the exchange would give up their details without warrants and stuff.

and mixers aren't foolproof.

but it looks like your loss was nearly four years ago. those coins could be scattered across a million wallets by now.



I've read  their last announcement when they so called "tracked" the sources of the wannacry payments.
And in that report they mentioned a few exchanges with sums under 10$.

I really doubt that any person would go and buy 10$ of bitcoin from one exchange and 100 form another and god know how much from yet another source in order to pay the ransom.

So I really doubt the tracking skills of those guys.

What paper trail are you talking about? This is Bitcoin... here we have a Blockchain to track coins. The problem is that stolen coins are mixed by

Sooner or later the coins will land in an exchange...that's probably why he mentioned paper.
I don't see hackers as bitcoin hodl-ers.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: mport1 on June 04, 2017, 09:40:45 PM
Thanks for all the advice everyone!  I really appreciate it.  And as a quick recap of what I believed happened, somebody hacked into my Gmail (as there was records of access by someone outside of me) and then used the backup that Blockchain had emailed me to steal the coins.

I know it is a long shot, but I'd be happy to offer up a 10 BTC reward for anyone who could help me find them, but only if I was able to actually receive the stolen coins back to my wallet.

If anyone else has additional advice/thoughts feel free to post here or DM me.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: mport1 on June 19, 2017, 02:19:01 AM
Sorry, but just to bump this one more time, where would be the best place to find people willing to help out for a finders fee/bounty?  Here, another forum, etc.?


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: RoommateAgreement on June 19, 2017, 03:01:26 AM
Sorry, but just to bump this one more time, where would be the best place to find people willing to help out for a finders fee/bounty?  Here, another forum, etc.?

i don't know why but it seems like nobody suggested walletexplorer.com so far! you can search a bitcoin address there and see all the linked addresses, it has some good information but it is not complete but it is free.

if you scroll down to the bottom of the page you'll see their paid services which is more complete and better. if you are serious about finding someone and are willing to pay then contact them and ask how their services are.
but don't have high expectations because this is bitcoin and if someone wants they can hide their tracks pretty well.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Gastotade on June 19, 2017, 03:29:42 AM
Sorry, but just to bump this one more time, where would be the best place to find people willing to help out for a finders fee/bounty?  Here, another forum, etc.?

i don't know why but it seems like nobody suggested walletexplorer.com so far! you can search a bitcoin address there and see all the linked addresses, it has some good information but it is not complete but it is free.

if you scroll down to the bottom of the page you'll see their paid services which is more complete and better. if you are serious about finding someone and are willing to pay then contact them and ask how their services are.
but don't have high expectations because this is bitcoin and if someone wants they can hide their tracks pretty well.

This is helpful, we may not guarantee if there is a chance to recover it but atleast we have some source to look too if ever happened.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Zadicar on June 19, 2017, 03:32:42 AM
https://www.chainalysis.com/

but i think it's gonna cost you. they mainly work for law enforcement.

even if they did trace it to an exchange, i don't see why the exchange would give up their details without warrants and stuff.

and mixers aren't foolproof.

but it looks like your loss was nearly four years ago. those coins could be scattered across a million wallets by now.


It would gonna cost you if you strive to look up on those bitcoin back again, unless if its on hundreds then it might be a worth to seek out but its nearly impossible to trace-up when the scammer or hacker of your bitcoin is wiser that you think, they can really easuly use mixers and exchanges and as ECB said 4 years is quiet old and those bitcoin cant really be traced even more.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: flo44 on January 22, 2018, 08:50:20 AM
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Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Metherry on January 22, 2018, 03:07:51 PM
A lot of analysis companies can help you track your currencies and if you are lucky you will be able to find the user’s identity because he has sent to a platform that contains his identity.

you can track who stolen your bitcoin but it’s hard to back your money (try your luck).
bitcoin is so easy to be tracked because blockchain like notepad every thing is archived.
you will loss more or can back your money.

The problem is knowing the identity and getting back the money, not tracking the currencies.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: Turboted928 on February 06, 2018, 12:31:50 AM
Hi all ,and in particular MPORT1

Did you have any luck getting some of your coins back?

I m in the same situation.

Had a few BTC stolen a couple of weeks ago.

I tried to message you directly, but there is a setting in your profile that stopped it going out.

"Send report
User 'mport1' has not chosen to allow messages from newbies. You should post in their relevant thread to remind them to enable this setting"

Hope you get this and can reply to me.

Will look fro that setting myself and deactivate it just in case you message me directly.

Regards
Martin


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: yuyuchain on February 06, 2018, 03:00:13 AM
I know it does not seem that bitcoin's fragmentation and anonymity make it hard to recover after it's lost.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: akkocoin on February 06, 2018, 03:19:50 AM
Very sorry to hear this news, I think your bitcoin is likely to chase back, because before someone was also stolen bitcoin, they are over-the-counter transactions, he gave bitcoin to each other, but the other did not turn He can not call the police, because the police will not accept these, so in the end he can only be unlucky, 40 bitcoin can be a huge sum of money, you can try to find a hacker to help you, but your bitcoin most likely to be scattered into hundreds of wallet inside.


Title: Re: Stolen Bitcoin recovery within 24 hours
Post by: European Central Bank on February 12, 2018, 08:41:51 PM
Hack Ethics is an experienced Private Hacking Organization with a spare master key that no one has. We can also help you recover your lost BTC or ETH.

so you're telling us that you have a 'master key' that'll get you into any bitcoin or ethereum wallet?

that's some seriously impressive firepower you have there. you'd be better off going to goldman sachs or the chinese government than hanging out with us nobodies. and as you have a way to generate any private key you must also have a computer larger than the known universe.

can you post some pics? we'd love to see it.


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: justtheticket on February 20, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
I also had 8BTC stolen by the Telegram scam. Here’s one of  the wallet address it was sent to:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/0f7e3dd041f673fa1317093d08ec198312779d23e2cef08e451173615c742222/


Title: Re: Companies That Help Track Down Stolen Bitcoin?
Post by: redhondaxrm125 on February 21, 2018, 04:27:43 PM
Are there any companies or individuals that help track down stolen bitcoins?  I had 40 BTC that I had on Blockchain stolen awhile back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=269443.0), and was wondering if there are any people that will help out for a fee?


Damn man, that is just so heart breaking. If you were gonna do the best you can to find it, you should've done it earlier at the time it was lost. Because clearly, it is nearly impossible now to find those coins since they might have already been used in buying stuff or trading online in thousands if not millions of wallets. Although I know that you really did as much as you could back then but still haven't found it, I pretty much think that there would be any difference in looking for it now. Because by now, chances of finding it would've become thinner. I think that there won't be anything much that you can do about it anymore. Hope your story becomes a great lesson for everyone man, thanks for sharing.
And for what it's worth, I really am so sorry that you lost that much bitcoins.