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Title: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on May 03, 2013, 04:24:13 AM
Hi All,

I have received a few emails lately asking me to port MinePeon (http://mineforeman.com/minepeon/) from ARM to x86.

The main advantage to this is you would be able to use it on your x86 mining rigs for GPU mining as well as everything that it already does and scrypt mining for litecoin.

Before I start to undertake this project I want to find out if it is needed by the community before I spend the hours required.  I would intend to make it what BAMT set out to be but was doped due to lack of community support.

So, the question is do you want it?


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: dodegkr on May 03, 2013, 07:09:03 AM
+1


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: crazyates on May 03, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
The only problem with something like this for GPU mining is the added complication of supporting ATI drivers from the distro. Would you include the driver? Multiple versions?


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: kano on May 04, 2013, 01:07:29 AM
Here there be monsters.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: lewisg on May 04, 2013, 06:47:20 AM
GPU mining alone is unless.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: davebodger on May 04, 2013, 08:39:53 PM
+1 for Litecoin/Scrypt on CPUs and GPUs


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: bcpokey on May 05, 2013, 12:24:15 AM
I hesitate to say yes. Not because I don't think it'd be great, but because I would hate for you to spend a lot of time on something that might not be rewarding.

I personally am looking at setting up some boxes at a new location with 7xxx series, not supported by bamt, and a quicky mine based linux would certainly be great, but if things fall through, with either the location or mining in its current form, I'd certainly be abandoning in a hurry.

So put me in for +1/2, as I'd like it, but I don't want you to knock yourself out over it :)


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: Reckman on May 10, 2013, 05:48:18 PM
+1 bamt is a nightmare with 7xxx series


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: cnaw on May 13, 2013, 07:06:40 AM
Sounds awesome.  Hope you get enough support and do it.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: th3joker on May 26, 2013, 12:37:57 AM
Sounds fantastic, I was looking for a way to do this very thing myself.

I love MinePeon and use it for my modminer quads, having it on my gpu rigs as well would be fantastic!!

I'm willing to beta test and help out where I can ;-)


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on May 26, 2013, 10:16:36 PM
Hmm,

I have to say, the response is somewhat underwhelming. 

Sure there are a few people who want it but the amount of effort required to do this seems unwarranted and I would be better off just putting all of my effort into MinePeon ARM.  Perhaps if someone but a big enough bounty on it.

Neil


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: dudeofthestick on May 26, 2013, 11:31:56 PM
+1

Are your building scripts open? Keep in mind that being strict about GPL, you should open source them. May be it could become a communiTy project.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on May 26, 2013, 11:46:59 PM
+1

Are your building scripts open? Keep in mind that being strict about GPL, you should open source them. May be it could become a communiTy project.


Everything is open (you sound very close to threatening me with the GPL without even looking by the way).

The thing is it is not like copying a few scripts and there you go, it is far more complicated and time intensive as you seem to think (and I am not even mentioning that the AMD drivers have their own licence that needs to be dealt with)

Neil


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: dudeofthestick on May 27, 2013, 12:13:07 PM
Yes, I know minepeon... and the reason why I asked you was because I could not find the building scripts for the distro...

I'm not threatening you in anyway...  ??? I'm not going to run to the GNU foundation to snitch...  :P

I have been involved in the development of custom linux distros for years and I was considering helping you and the rest of guys and girls joining the party... But something I have learnt the hard way is that community development must be strict about licensing issues. And simply you can't bundle a linux distro with non-compatible GPL licenses, you need to find innovative ways to do it (ubuntu multiverse can be an example). So, I just wanted to know if it would be a community effort or not.

I think it makes perfect sense to continue with the development of minepeon on your own. It's a great job! But I'm not interested if it's not strict GPL (and GNU rules) compliant.





 


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: dxtwo on May 27, 2013, 11:32:54 PM
+1 bamt is a nightmare with 7xxx series

+1


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: kodo on May 29, 2013, 10:16:37 PM
Theres great demand for LTC right now I suggest you mine it.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: th3joker on May 29, 2013, 10:28:11 PM
I think there's an updated version of bamt for 7970's floating around, I have a copy at work and will test it out tomorrow and see how we fare.

If it's any good I'll host up a link for it.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: th3joker on May 29, 2013, 10:33:02 PM
Though an intel version of MinePeon would be much better, seriously nice distro props to MineForeman.com.

What amount of bounty would be acceptable for an Intel version?


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: Herp-a-derp on May 30, 2013, 09:31:37 PM
+1 bamt is a nightmare with 7xxx series

+1

+1


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: dsky on May 31, 2013, 09:57:08 AM
+1


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: TheSpiral on May 31, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
I'd use it.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: cooler-persistence on June 06, 2013, 05:08:20 AM
I'm interested as well.  Its nice to have a unified setup for all hardware.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: btceic on June 08, 2013, 01:40:03 PM
I was just looking for this, please port it to x86, thanks


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: TechCF on June 10, 2013, 09:40:11 PM
+1 as i am using the old BAMT now (without mother, graphs and such), with new drivers, cgminer. its a hassle, and i do not want to figure out how to get the graps working.

Installed peon on the pi yesterday, and looking forward to run the block erupters from your group buy on it. I like minepeon - small and to the point.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on June 11, 2013, 01:09:37 AM
The only problem with something like this for GPU mining is the added complication of supporting ATI drivers from the distro. Would you include the driver? Multiple versions?

Does anyone have further information on this?  From memory you were not able to include the AMD binaries with a distribution but I just googled and I can't seem to find anything about it.

Neil


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: btceic on June 11, 2013, 01:13:17 AM
The only problem with something like this for GPU mining is the added complication of supporting ATI drivers from the distro. Would you include the driver? Multiple versions?

Does anyone have further information on this?  From memory you were not able to include the AMD binaries with a distribution but I just googled and I can't seem to find anything about it.

Neil

Can you include a script for us to do this ourselves?

or instructions for how to create a script for us to do it ourselves?


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on June 11, 2013, 01:15:02 AM
The only problem with something like this for GPU mining is the added complication of supporting ATI drivers from the distro. Would you include the driver? Multiple versions?

Does anyone have further information on this?  From memory you were not able to include the AMD binaries with a distribution but I just googled and I can't seem to find anything about it.

Neil

Can you include a script for us to do this ourselves?

or instructions for how to create a script for us to do it ourselves?

Possibly, I just need to find the rules AMD have for redistribution.

Neil


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: btceic on June 11, 2013, 01:16:09 AM
How do you, the author, pronounce minepeon?

In my head I am saying minniepeon as in miniture peon

Minnie Peon? -- mine sounds like "Minnie Mouse"

OR

Mine Peon? -- mine sounds like "mine not yours"


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: cooler-persistence on June 11, 2013, 01:59:42 AM
A script for picking drivers sounds great, old driver for 5xxx and newer for 7xxx.

Thank you for considering this.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: bulltrap on June 23, 2013, 08:20:30 AM
+1 Would be great to have MinePeon on x86 as well. I think Arch Linux is a great base for mining OS.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on June 23, 2013, 08:46:36 AM
How do you, the author, pronounce minepeon?

In my head I am saying minniepeon as in miniture peon

Minnie Peon? -- mine sounds like "Minnie Mouse"

OR

Mine Peon? -- mine sounds like "mine not yours"

Its the last bit that you're having problems with, the first is mine (as in mining), the last is more like;-

I hate you so much that I would not pee on [peon] you if you were on fire.

It's kind of crude, and I did not invent the word, but that is what it sounds like.

Neil

P.S. I don't hate you, it was an example.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: AnatomicFlack on November 22, 2013, 03:04:06 AM
Sorry to bump an old thread... but I would definitely be interested in this if it still has a chance to live.  

My primary use would be for ASIC mining.  You've turned out one hell of a OS for ARM. I love it on my Pi, but the limits of the rPi hardware are strating to become a problem.  Primarily the inability to use any USB3 hubs with out of the box higher power delivery.  The one other tough bit is that I can see where I'm leaving money (in lost GH from what I'm reporting to what the pool reports) on the floor because the rPi isn't quite fast enough.  When running cgminer directly on a more powerful PC I'm keeping nearly 100% GH of what I'm reporting, where as on the rPi I seem to be loosing between 5-10% GH right off the top. 

I'm trying to find a happy compromise right now between wanting the density and power delivery from USB3, and simplicity of install and management. 

As far as the GPU side of things, maybe now that cgminer (and bfgminer has hinted the same) has removed GPU support entirely.  It would appear the tide has turned and people are abandoning their GPU mining setups.  With the exceptions of LTC of course, but you have to imagine that scrypt capable ASICs can't be too far away at this point.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: schnellminer on December 30, 2013, 09:32:28 PM
+1

Would really love to see this happen


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: awgilyas on December 31, 2013, 02:27:32 AM
I'd be interested. Windows has terrible uptime with my R9 290 for some reason.


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: MineForeman.com on January 20, 2014, 10:08:11 PM
Resurrecting this thread sorry.  I am doing a pile of work to port MinePeon to other ARM devices at the moment.

Does anyone have some hardware to donate?  An old GPU rig or two would push this forward.  I will even pay (in bitcoin) if someone has something cheap.

Neil


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: r00tdude on January 21, 2014, 07:35:44 PM
+1


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: greenbtc on January 22, 2014, 02:44:57 PM
Resurrecting this thread sorry.  I am doing a pile of work to port MinePeon to other ARM devices at the moment.

Does anyone have some hardware to donate?  An old GPU rig or two would push this forward.  I will even pay (in bitcoin) if someone has something cheap.

Neil

I'm not sure what your time table is, or if you'd be willing to let people beta it for you, but I would certainly donate $10-15 to getting this off the floor. Do you need a full rig or just a GPU to test with?


Title: Re: Judging demand;- MinePeon x86 (GPU & Litecoin Mining)?
Post by: LogicalUnit on January 23, 2014, 06:00:16 AM
Hmm,

I have to say, the response is somewhat underwhelming. 

Sure there are a few people who want it but the amount of effort required to do this seems unwarranted and I would be better off just putting all of my effort into MinePeon ARM.
Neil

+1 for this.

I would prefer you continue to work on th ARM version.