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the following users scammed me tonight. I am not using bitcointalk for trading any longer

FoundNemo scammed me for 60 ltc's
limitless scammed me for 42.5 ltc's
and
btcmank scammed me for 90 ltc's

I wouldn't doubt if they are all the same person. Possibly even user penetration. Check their ip range.

Ray

I think you just don't understand how to trade. Getting scammed three times in one night?

i didnt. I pm'ed him and he has not responded as of yet...

WTF, that was big amount. Next time use escrow or trade only with members with high trade history.

You're doing it wrong.

That's quite a lot of scams in one night. Are you sure there isn't some sort of miscommunication?

still have not received a single CNC

I traded with junior members. I am new here so I stayed away from newbies, but thought jr members were trustworthy. I also checked the scam list for the cnc spreadsheet floating around and did not see them on the list.

Those usernames were supporting each other and are most likely the same person using multiple ip's/proxies.

Ray

I just received your pm, however, why would I need to respond? I already sent the LTC's last night and have been waiting on you to send the CNC's. Why would my reply to a pm be necessary for you to send?

You have my cnc address for the 10,000 cnc's and my wallet works perfectly.

CQQjXH5uMSLdRj3En84Ppvskhxb1iRQdhT

Ray

Here is your pm from 7 hours ago...

btcmank: "sorry net problems.. im sending now"


I have not received anything.

Ray

Proof or did not happen

The admins can read my pm's all they want.

Ray

Did this get resolved?

I am looking to purchase a large amount...but I am from the UK and just unsure of what to use for the trade.

Ideally I would like to day trade but with the low volumes allowed on Mt and the fact it is american not UK based this may prove impossible.

no resolution.

I would not recommend trading with "newbies" or "jr members".

The pm feature works, so pm sr members and do business with them only.

Learn from my loss.


Ray

HOLD THE PHONE!!

Just because someone is a jr or sr member or even a hero member doesn't mean that they're trustworthy, it only means that they made X number of posts.

You should only trade with people who have a very good reputation from previous trades and has been here for a long period.
 
Before you trade with someone you need to check the age of their account and check their previous posts and look for positive trades.

Use an escrow so that you don't have to send them the money first.

If you are scammed, create a new topic in the "Scam Accusation" board about it, so that the scammer can be marked as a scammer and will not be able to scam again in future

Thanks.

Is there a core UK Trade like Mt in operation that has some weight to it?

I do not see the scam board. Can a newbie post in it? We need ratings / trust factor next to our usernames.

Ray

Appologise for being off topic but many thanks :D

btcmank is posting in other threads right now, while completely ignoring the fact that he scammed me for 90 ltc's for 10,000 cnc's last night.

Ray

You are not doing it correct
http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/doing-it-wrong-vandalism-sign.gif

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Sorry to hear about that.  I'm just getting involved and this is some good info for newbies.  How long should someones account be active before you trade with them?   Also since I am new should I not expect anyone to trade with me because of my "newness"?

Not to be mean and kick a man when he is down, but 3 TIMES in one night???

Thank you for the link

Ray

You will have to send first. I would review a user's profile and postings in more detail before I would trade here again.

 I did a decent amount of homework. It was the classic scam, one user vouching for another, but, both were the same person and I got scammed.

Ray

Open a thread for each of the alleged scammers on the scammer directory (including the guy that had the nerve to post in this thread: shame on him, no one can claim lack of answer to non fulfillment of a deal) and present evidence (better use scans, ops have more to do than read all the PM).
As just said, forget about trusting based on post count or status, look to vouches and never do a deal before searching the user. In case of any doubt, always send small tranches, waiting each time for his payment before sending the next one. Don't trust any user that doesn't accept to deal in small tranches. Also, ask for the address of the other party and search it on blockchain.info or cryptocoinexplorer.com to confirm he has the amounts he is claiming to have in his account.

To big amounts, you can always use a escrow. A cheap and simple one is the system of bitmit.net

Thank you for the tips. I made a thread in the scammers section for FoundNemo, limitless and bitmank. I included screenshots and quoted the pm with their LTC addresses that they sent.

Ray

Thats rough...but why would you engage in so many transactions all at once ...

 I was a newbie

it was 3 separate transactions by 2 jr members and a newbie.

I have since learned better.  I am trying to spread the knowledge.

Ray

Never be ashamed for being scammed, the shame is on them. Good luck.

I 100% agree.

Ray

Well, you need to learn who you put your trust into.

BTCMANK just sent me message saying he wanted pp.. Do you think someones hacking his account? or what? This is shameful.. OP sorry they rip u and now we all are wiser who we trade with

I probably wouldn't deal with him until everything is resolved. Even if it is you can't be too careful.

He did the stupid thing on telling me his real name.. His name is Joshua Murphy from New Jersey.. U guys should file a police report he's the biggest hacker and scammer... and i googled him : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131107.30;wap

sad!

RUN from btcmank.

Use bitcrow.com to buy and bitmit.net to sell, then he cant scam you

Did you go first for all of the trades and as a result lost the amount? I would do a test run first or similar, what were you purchasing, that's a descent chunk of loss money. Also, you may want to just stop going first for a while until you feel comfortable again, it may result in less trades but now there is a 0% risk versus before. Best of luck, and I'm sorry this happened to you.

I wouldn't think it wise to send more than a few LTC at a time to anyone without trusted escrow.

You must be scammed by one guy. Maybe he used different accounts. lol

Wow alot of scammer in one day.  You not the only ones lot of others where scammed too. Scammers are now faking an escrow. They can spoof email and edit messages nothing can be trusted anymore.