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Title: the biggest Forex broker in the world added bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: Herbert2020 on May 31, 2017, 06:07:19 AM
GMO Click Securities' Annual FX Trading Volume is No.1 Worldwide in 2016 for the 5th Consecutive Year Since 2012

https://www.gmo.jp/images/article/20170126_en.jpg

now this Japanese internet giant called GMO Internet Group is going to start their full scale bitcoin trading platform very soon. and it is expected to become very popular very fast in Japan.

how do you think this is going to affect the whole market?
the price is just one of them, we have seen the effects Japan had, what other effects do you think they will have, for example do you think this will change things for ETF's in US, how about regulations in other countries and their Forex brokers adding bitcoin on this scale?


edit:
It is open now: https://coin.z.com/jp/index.html
and already meeting a large demand for bitcoin

GMO Click Securities (the company) has estimates that the market size in Japan for cryptocurrencies will grow to 1 trillion yen daily volume, or US$8.7 billion daily within a few years.

Quote
Z.com Coin is offering two types of account plans for users, referred to as “Simple” and “Full Access.” With Simple, the website doesn’t ask for much identifying information, so customers can get set up quickly. However, they can only treat the exchange as a cryptocurrency wallet where they can buy coins, make deposits, and withdraw them again.

The Full Access accounts require Know Your Customer (KYC) and Anti Money Laundering (AML) documentation, but permits users to deposit and withdraw Japanese yen, and trade on both of Z.com Coin’s trading services.

The company is initially offering a Bitcoin wallet and two markets for their customer to trade. The first is a Foreign Exchange market that allows Bitcoin to be traded for various fiat currencies, called the “virtual currency FX” market. Traders also have access to margin trading, an already-very popular market type for Z.com, according to the announcement.

The other market is a more traditional Bitcoin exchange, which they simply call their “virtual currency” market. The service allows anyone to buy bitcoins for Yen, and potentially other cryptocurrencies like Ethereum in the future, and send them to their Z.com coin wallet. As with the now competing exchange BitFlyer, trading fees on the Virtual Currency market are zero.
source: https://bravenewcoin.com/news/japans-largest-forex-market-opens-bitcoin-exchanges-to-overwhelming-demand/


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: n0ne on May 31, 2017, 09:13:07 AM
Anything relating to bitcoin getting into effect from Japan doesn't look to be a big news, because they have legalized the bitcoin usage long back which is the big news. On a sudden more than 20000 merchants all around the country started accepting bitcoin and now the rest are initiating the plans to profit through bitcoin.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: spiderbrain on May 31, 2017, 09:57:05 AM
I reckon this is pretty decent news.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: cafucafucafu on May 31, 2017, 10:01:33 AM
First of all i never knew that a Japanese forex broker was the number one forex broker in the world. But this is obviously extremely positive news for bitcoin as Japan has recently just legalised bitcoin, and now that the number 1 broker in the world has started to accept btc as well it's just a cherry on top.

Other online brokers have already offered btc trading pairs for years and it's really popular as btc prices fluctuate a lot, and traders love that.

Decent news? Yeah definitely.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: jorneyflair on May 31, 2017, 10:04:05 AM
Now i'm not saying that this is bad news at all, no i think that this is good news. However I think we are focusing too much on forex brokers, governments legalizing bitcoin, etc. This is important but it's not as important as real people using bitcoin as a currency, in daily life, buying stuff that they want, earning an income online and getting paid no matter where they are with bitcoins.

Speculation in my opinion is nowhere as important as actual adoption and usage of btc.

But still, congratz on japan for legalizing btc and companies are sure taking advantages of this.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: YuginKadoya on May 31, 2017, 10:36:23 AM
First of all i never knew that a Japanese forex broker was the number one forex broker in the world. But this is obviously extremely positive news for bitcoin as Japan has recently just legalised bitcoin, and now that the number 1 broker in the world has started to accept btc as well it's just a cherry on top.

Other online brokers have already offered btc trading pairs for years and it's really popular as btc prices fluctuate a lot, and traders love that.

Decent news? Yeah definitely.

There are other Forex Broker in but I don't think it let's you make a trade with bitcoin and AvaTrade is among the top Forex brokers in the world, and I think japan is gonna make their own forex broker that may make a trade on bitcoin I really think this is an additional spike up for the community and would surely make an impact with the value of bitcoin it lot's of people would really make a trade and transaction over bitcoin.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: BitHodler on May 31, 2017, 10:45:05 AM
Japan is the perfect example of how governmental Bitcoin friendliness results in a much wider field of adoption ~ this is just the first step.

Another positive aspect of this is that the average joe type of people will slowly forget about the negativity that the media has been pumping into the world to make Bitcoin look bad.

If this continues, and I definitely believe so, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Japanese pension funds allocate a certain percentage of their holdings purely to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: veleten on May 31, 2017, 01:07:45 PM
as much as I dislike Forex and everything connected with it
I must admit that this is good news for both adoption and bitcoin price
Japan and Korea being the locomotives at the moment driving the price up and increasing the demand for coins
think there will be news about japanese companies paying employees in bitcoins very soon
and this could open a flood of businesses accepting bitcoins or trading for bitcoins
 


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: BrewMaster on May 31, 2017, 03:55:43 PM
i really love Japan, not only for the mass adoption of bitcoin, that is too obvious. but i love it because they are moving forward with their adoption so smoothly and so silently without any drama!

so far in any other place we keep seeing a lot of drama, a lot of government meddling and roadblocks!

this is going to be a new full bitcoin exchange platform with zero fees by the way.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: freedomno1 on May 31, 2017, 04:48:36 PM
If it's added to the forex brokers it's going to go crazy speculators will love this.
So quite a bullish signal by all means.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: FractalUniverse on May 31, 2017, 06:18:03 PM
any news about their offered leverage for bitcoin?


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: cpfreeplz on May 31, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
i really love Japan, not only for the mass adoption of bitcoin, that is too obvious. but i love it because they are moving forward with their adoption so smoothly and so silently without any drama!

so far in any other place we keep seeing a lot of drama, a lot of government meddling and roadblocks!

this is going to be a new full bitcoin exchange platform with zero fees by the way.

In the west we deal with a lot of old timer idiots in government who don't want anything to change. At some point someone new will ce in when that moron retires and we'll only be 10 or 20 years behind every Asian country.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: BitFinnese on May 31, 2017, 06:29:34 PM
If it's added to the forex brokers it's going to go crazy speculators will love this.
So quite a bullish signal by all means.

Yeah and the best of it, the biggest broker in the world is adding it.  I am sure there will be lots of new bloods joining the Bitcoin trades.  This indeed signal a bullish trend for Bitcoin coupled with Australia and other new updates  like smart contract coming to bitcoin.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: FractalUniverse on May 31, 2017, 06:38:18 PM
the question is if they will be trading real bitcoins or some bitcoin cfds


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: btc_angela on May 31, 2017, 06:42:07 PM
This is good news indeed. This will shake the forex industry as GMO will not introduce bitcoin as well. For sure forex traders will see this as a new opportunity to profit huge because of the unstable price of bitcoin. Another cash flow will be pouring as well coming from forex to bitcoin ecosystem. Good sign that the market trend will start to be bullish again.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: angaper on May 31, 2017, 07:21:49 PM
GMO, the biggest Forex broker? ???

It would be interesting to know where this information comes from. I have almost a decade dedicated to this business and it is very usual for every broker to promote itself as the best or the greatest. By the way it strikes me that this graph only names that GMO broker and does not make clear which other brokers occupy the other spots, besides that being written in Japanese, it seems obvious to me that it is only promoting itself as the biggest one.

On the other hand I do not see this information so relevant. There are many other great brokers who have already implemented bitcoin in their trading and payment options for some time.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: cengsuwuei on May 31, 2017, 11:36:03 PM
GMO not biggest forex broker in japan
biggest forex broken in japan, sample naturefx, salma and more, about GMO iam first hear

where link GMo forex broker


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: jhenfelipe on May 31, 2017, 11:50:54 PM
I first heard of GMO last January if I'm not mistaken, when there's a news that they will be launching a Japanese Bitcoin wallet service. After that, I don't know if there's a progress. After reading this, I did some research. I found out that it was supposed to be launch last May 24 but postponed and re-scheduled to May 31 : https://news.bitcoin.com/japanese-internet-giant-gmo-postpones-launching-bitcoin-trading-platform-may-31/

I always find it good when big company adapt bitcoin. Let's see if it will affect the market (not all are aware of this news).


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: Herbert2020 on June 01, 2017, 06:36:49 AM
GMO, the biggest Forex broker? ???

It would be interesting to know where this information comes from. I have almost a decade dedicated to this business and it is very usual for every broker to promote itself as the best or the greatest. By the way it strikes me that this graph only names that GMO broker and does not make clear which other brokers occupy the other spots, besides that being written in Japanese, it seems obvious to me that it is only promoting itself as the biggest one.

On the other hand I do not see this information so relevant. There are many other great brokers who have already implemented bitcoin in their trading and payment options for some time.

well, i am not really into Forex trading so i have no idea about where to really search for a valid data but here i found another news source: http://www.financemagnates.com/forex/brokers/gmo-click-remains-largest-forex-broker-world-2016/

other websites listing Forex brokers seem to be only listing US and Europe Forex brokers and not Asia when it comes to volume. and most of their listings are not based on volume but based on other things such as which one is the best!


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: buwaytress on June 01, 2017, 09:27:34 AM
I've actually seen more than one broker ad, either on Bloomberg of some financial magazine or other, or even on random ad space advertising to be the #1 Forex broker in the world. It's anybody's guess how anyone could arrive at that. Volume? Accounts? # of trades? All can be easily manipulated to attain #1 - as crypto alt markets have also shown.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: Amph on June 01, 2017, 10:22:55 AM
it's also new to e that in japan GMO is the biggest forex broker worldwide, i always thought that forex trading was the biggest in the USA and small in every other country

the question is if they will be trading real bitcoins or some bitcoin cfds

it should still bring the attention to bitcoin, i suspect they will not trade real bitcoin, but cfds like you said, to give better leverage, all the broker that trade bitcoin directly have a very low leverage and in forex, investors like to have 500x leverage


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: talkbitcoin on June 01, 2017, 11:54:57 AM
the question is if they will be trading real bitcoins or some bitcoin cfds

the news said it is a full feature bitcoin exchange platform so that traders can trade bitcoin there, so i am guessing it will be something like the exchanges such as bitfinex, okcoin, ... that we know.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: FractalUniverse on June 01, 2017, 06:21:43 PM
the question is if they will be trading real bitcoins or some bitcoin cfds

the news said it is a full feature bitcoin exchange platform so that traders can trade bitcoin there, so i am guessing it will be something like the exchanges such as bitfinex, okcoin, ... that we know.
It can be interesting then. we'll see how big trading volume they can achieve.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: Herbert2020 on June 04, 2017, 06:19:28 AM
It is open now: https://coin.z.com/jp/index.html
and already meeting a large demand for bitcoin

GMO Click Securities (the company) has estimates that the market size in Japan for cryptocurrencies will grow to 1 trillion yen daily volume, or US$8.7 billion daily within a few years.

Quote
Z.com Coin is offering two types of account plans for users, referred to as “Simple” and “Full Access.” With Simple, the website doesn’t ask for much identifying information, so customers can get set up quickly. However, they can only treat the exchange as a cryptocurrency wallet where they can buy coins, make deposits, and withdraw them again.

The Full Access accounts require Know Your Customer (KYC) and Anti Money Laundering (AML) documentation, but permits users to deposit and withdraw Japanese yen, and trade on both of Z.com Coin’s trading services.

The company is initially offering a Bitcoin wallet and two markets for their customer to trade. The first is a Foreign Exchange market that allows Bitcoin to be traded for various fiat currencies, called the “virtual currency FX” market. Traders also have access to margin trading, an already-very popular market type for Z.com, according to the announcement.

The other market is a more traditional Bitcoin exchange, which they simply call their “virtual currency” market. The service allows anyone to buy bitcoins for Yen, and potentially other cryptocurrencies like Ethereum in the future, and send them to their Z.com coin wallet. As with the now competing exchange BitFlyer, trading fees on the Virtual Currency market are zero.
source: https://bravenewcoin.com/news/japans-largest-forex-market-opens-bitcoin-exchanges-to-overwhelming-demand/


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world is adding bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 04, 2017, 06:44:09 AM
GMO Click Securities (the company) has estimates that the market size in Japan for cryptocurrencies will grow to 1 trillion yen daily volume, or US$8.7 billion daily within a few years.

Wow! I am over the moon after reading this. Imagine what will be the global volumes, if the Japanese volumes are $8.7 billion. That amount can be close to $40 billion. And if the daily volumes are that much, then the market cap can be anywhere between $400 billion to $1 trillion.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world added bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: talkbitcoin on June 04, 2017, 09:37:56 AM
GMO Click Securities (the company) has estimates that the market size in Japan for cryptocurrencies will grow to 1 trillion yen daily volume, or US$8.7 billion daily within a few years.

Wow! I am over the moon after reading this. Imagine what will be the global volumes, if the Japanese volumes are $8.7 billion. That amount can be close to $40 billion. And if the daily volumes are that much, then the market cap can be anywhere between $400 billion to $1 trillion.

in a short while if we assume 17 million bitcoin is mined then to have a $400 billion dollar market cap price has to be $23,529 which i doubt can happen this soon without a big bubble forming! and i am not even going to calculate the $1 trillion market cap :)

but this is a big news nonetheless. it will bring bitcoin to a large number of people and we can expect a nice rise in the near future.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world added bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: djuvantebit on August 16, 2017, 01:06:15 PM
Bitcoin acceptance grows! I had always wondered what kept forex brokers from featuring bitcoin on their platforms guess more and more are getting bolder.


Title: Re: the biggest Forex broker in the world added bitcoin, and it is in Japan
Post by: matuson on August 16, 2017, 01:38:55 PM
Bitcoin acceptance grows! I had always wondered what kept forex brokers from featuring bitcoin on their platforms guess more and more are getting bolder.
Maybe with the advent of bitcoin in Forex price hikes will increase even more. I never trusted this exchange, and therefore, even if I will have the opportunity to trade Forex with bitcoins, I will not do that.