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Title: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: mmitech on May 03, 2013, 07:14:51 PM
Guys  the title tells it all, just read what people are doing to get Mtgox to lag so they can get the price down .



here is the link they are talking about it right now http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dmmqy/how_to_break_the_mtgox_trading_engine_with_normal/


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: Birdy on May 03, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
It would be so easy to set some kind of limit against this...

But it's not the only reason price is dropping atm.
Bank holiday in Japan -> no fresh money arriving
Some bad news e.g. about lawsuit against Gox


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: mmitech on May 03, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
It would be so easy to set some kind of limit against this...

But it's not the only reason price is dropping atm.
Bank holiday in Japan -> no fresh money arriving
Some bad news e.g. about lawsuit against Gox

and this may give us an idea about the Ddos attacks were going on lately, if you know what I mean.


it is a dirty game. just sit and watch how it will end up .


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: Quantum_Negatum on May 03, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
Bots manipulate the price upwards too.  It's more profitable to crash from a higher price.  I wouldn't be surprised if repeated pumping and dumping by the bots was responsible for the recent bubble.  BTC was likely pumped/dumped through jan and feb until it finally caught the attention of new speculators who carried it to unsustainable heights.

Stop blaming the bots.  If anything, they are failing to keep the price up. Let it fall.

Look at all the orders below $70.  That's where the demand is.


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: mgio on May 03, 2013, 08:04:36 PM
It would be so easy to set some kind of limit against this...

But it's not the only reason price is dropping atm.
Bank holiday in Japan -> no fresh money arriving
Some bad news e.g. about lawsuit against Gox

I don't know why people keep saying this.

I had money that arrived at Gox this morning. I don't think the holiday is preventing money from getting to gox.


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: xavier on May 03, 2013, 08:25:02 PM
Lets not forget the order book can be easily manipulated so it looks like there is more buy or sell demand. But what really matters is the live and historical trading price not volume of orders on the order book. Money talks, and the message today and for the foreseeable future is clear: sell.


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: Birdy on May 03, 2013, 10:31:48 PM
It would be so easy to set some kind of limit against this...

But it's not the only reason price is dropping atm.
Bank holiday in Japan -> no fresh money arriving
Some bad news e.g. about lawsuit against Gox

I don't know why people keep saying this.

I had money that arrived at Gox this morning. I don't think the holiday is preventing money from getting to gox.
Guess, because everyone said this before and it did sound reasonable.
I'm not saying it anymore now ^^


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: drakedog on May 03, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
silk road has been under attack for a while now and is constantly going down

im sure that is contributing


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: Babylon on May 03, 2013, 10:41:31 PM
silk road has been under attack for a while now and is constantly going down

im sure that is contributing

It should contribute to people using Atlantis, but I guess Atlantis doesn't have as much press as silk road.


Title: Re: Gox the reason why price is going down, ( Manipulation with prove )
Post by: jpdoctor on May 04, 2013, 12:29:46 AM
I've said it elsewhere:  Exchanges need to charge for putting an order on the book.
Otherwise you'll get all of the order book dirty tricks that are present on the Nasdaq etc.