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I finally managed to complete the precious metals Casascius collection all with intact holograms, along with every year and denomination of the originals (along with the very first error coin).  I thought some people might like to see them, so here they are.  They are all loaded with the exception of the 1000 BTC, which still has an intact hologram.

Willing to entertain offers of 35 BTC.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/10/s8yZW.jpeg
Not pictured is the St. Petersburg coin.

...and of course the originals.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/10/s8YDm.jpeg

awesome and something i aspire to but i think it's far out of reach now.

did you buy one of charlie lee's gold coins?

Yes, I did.

Some bonus eye candy...  The entire NastyFans Minted Seat Collection with matching #1 vanity addresses.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/10/s8JkJ.jpeg
(10oz .9999 Gold & 4oz .9999 Platinum Minted Seats not pictured)

I'll start the bidding at 1 BTC  ;D

Presume that is a S3 0.5 silver? What about the S2 0.5 silver?  ;D

That is quite an impressive collection, congratulations! Do you have any inkling to get the 25 BTC coin or the bars?

No idea to be honest.  I bought a roll from Casascius early on and that's how I got the 0.5 silver.  I don't really care about the different series holograms outside of the 2011 error and fixed ones.



I have a peeled 5 BTC and I've been considering getting a peeled 25 BTC but I can't bring myself to pay the going rate.  The bars don't particularly interest me.  I had one and sold it a while back.  Mostly I am a fan of the gold/silver rounds.

That's some serious Coin porn right there.

Congrats on managing to put that together.

Viz

Mind showing us the fine ass backside to those beauties?  :D

What does it feel like to hold that 1000 btc coin?

Very nice collection.

I thought that a part of me would feel some disappointment because my gold coins are so much larger.  I didn't at all though. It really is a great coin.

somehow I believe you, if you KNOW the price is going down by 50% for SURE tomorrow, and you have no time to sell it... Do you open it?  ;D

I don't believe I will ever open a Casascius coin. I have no interest in trading BTC rate fluctuations for profit.

These specific 1000 BTC Casascius Fine Gold Coins are not loaded with 1000 BTC - they are empty. Coblee (Charlie Lee, creator of Litecoin) had a case complete with 12 (?) of them IIRC. They were obtained directly from Casascius himself years and years ago. Most of us were unware of their presence until very recently.

Nice collection! You really need to scoop up a 25BTC to round it out.

Wow, beauty of a collection!

You have all the finest pieces. I suppose having the 25BTC coins would technically complete the set but I personally don't find those coins to be as clean and classic looking as the rest. It's something about the rounded font and engraving.

Would you billing to share how long it to you to complete the collection and how much was spent in total for all of the coins shown? Perhaps it's too personal but I know it would be an interesting set of facts to go along with the story.

Congrats to you, OG.

Very nice.

Some of us can only dream.  :)

Agreed  :-\

I purchased all the silver coins from Mike's website so that was easy enough. The only coins that took a while to find were the 2011 s2 and of course the gold coin. Since I believe they were nearly all purchased in 2013, the USD price would be fairly low. However, I would guess the total BTC cost was somewhere around 70 BTC.

oh but the 1000btc is empty? I was talking about that I thought it was loaded my bad very noob to this  ;D

Looking to buy a funded nickel to add to the collection?   ;D

Very nice though, I'd like to buy a gold cas one day.

The gold Casascius are nice, but out of my price range  :-\

Sure.   :)


They come up.  I'm sure many people (even in this thread) have them or know people that do.  Put up a WTB post.  :)

Ah, I have one and was wondering if Og would want one :)

I'm not really interested in a loaded 5 or 25.  If they were made multiple years, I'd probably feel differently.  The 5 is a great coin.  Maybe someday.  Although I'm pretty happy with my collection as it currently stands.

I passed up the opportunity to buy a gold cas coin once, I wasn't going to let it happen again.

Sweet collection, makes me jealous with just my (peeled >:() 2011 brass coins.

impressed  :o agree you need the 5 and 25 to complete the set.

weren't they being sold for 14 btc a while back? still a large amount but reachable for some. if i hit the jackpot with some worthless alt i'd buy one.

60-65k wire transfer and we'll call it a day and leave early on Friday.

No.  I put 0 value on ANACS's opinion of coins.  I actually prefer mine to be ungraded.  Will probably break open the one that is graded when I'm motivated enough.



I am not a fan of the 25 BTC coin.  It isn't enough like the others for my taste.  I may buy a 5 BTC coin someday as I think it sort of fits in with the originals, but that would probably be as far as I'd ever want to go with this set.  I'm satisfied with what I've got and that's a good feeling. :)

I think you're on to something. I feel the ANACS grading is open to a lot of subjectivity, but what I feel and what is are two different things. I'm sure others here have more factual insight on what they're really considering for the grading process.

One other question for you - do you keep your collection on display? I'd love to have my collection on display but given the face value of each there's a lot of incentive for some acquaintance visitor to get some sticky fingers. I feel like I'd need a museum-strong locking glass case to feel comfortable leaving these beauties out to be appreciated each day.

Hell no.  If you saw the lengths I have to go through to access these coins, you would understand what true paranoia is.  I value this part of my coin collection at well over a hundred grand, and I take appropriate precautions to make sure that it's well protected.

Anything for you smoothie.  :-*

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3dBqm.jpeg
click to immerse yourself in every detail... (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3d9L1.jpeg)

I assume these are probably the ones in question as they hold a majority of the BTC value:
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3d8yJ.jpeg
click to immerse yourself in every detail... (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3diGW.jpeg)

Well duh.  Get high quality photos and display those.   :)


That's a real shame.  5's have always held their premium and way more affordable than a 10.  Surprised you have 2x 10s but not a 5.
25's are nice because they are the largest graded coin you can get.  Premiums are lower than the prior 2.  So, bigger piggy bank with weight.


That's also a shame.  Grading coins is cheap.   0 value?  I disagree.  I find it very valuable to be able to put graded coin slabs in a case.  It makes it easy to show people without them marking up the coin (fingerprints or scratches) or even messing with the label.  It's like the perfect protective sleeve making them easy to show and easy to stack.

Looking at the picture of the back of your coins, your .5 silver is an S3.  (Not an S2 - Darn)

If you put a value on ANACS grades, I urge you to send the same coin into them twice.  I think the additional handling and removal of original airtites can only be a bad thing for these coins.  That being said, I understand why someone would value a MS70 coin over a MS64.  Certainly others do care, as is obvious from the market pricing.  Wasn't trying to be controversial, just playing devil's advocate.  Since the difference between being right and wrong is the number of people that agree with you, I have no problem accepting that my opinion is "wrong" and yours is right.

Thank you for identifying my 0.5 as S3.  I've never taken the time to check.

ANACS - I didn't say anything about the grade itself.  Just that the price for the permasleeve is very nice.  As for the actual grade; well, it's relative.  There is no exact science and many people do grading.  I admit, sending in twice will get you a different number.  This should NOT happen (not that the number should drastically change, but should be noted it was a regrade/resubmit).   Just like any coin dealer on Earth (and probably elsewhere), a grade is only a matter of opinion.  So, nothing against or for ANACs in this matter.  I have the same issue with PCGS coins and paper money.

Oh, you don't have to agree with me.  We could both be 'wrong'.  :)

The .5 has a label that nearly covers the back of the coin.  The rare .5 S2 has a label that is smaller.  Basically the label that's on the .1 silver next to it.  :)

Erwin Schrödinger would certainly agree with that.  :D

Hmm. Something about that table isn't quite right ;D

You made me laugh harder than I should have at that.

https://i.imgflip.com/19v90f.jpg

The good thing about ANACS grading is that it helps an inexperienced collector gauge the quality of a coin. The seller of a coin will pretty much always "think" the coin they are selling is in perfect or near perfect condition, and an ANACS grade will give the collector a somewhat neutral opinion regarding the coin.

ANACS's procedures and quality controls can probably use improvements and there seems to be some amount of grade inflation for BTC coins that ANACS grades. They are also not the most reputable grading service of the major grading services, but they will still give at least a starting point to the quality and condition of a coin.

Please...Hands down I own the most famous table in this space!

Where did you get the empty 1k coin from? colbee?

I tried to buy goat's redeemed 1k gold coin back in 2013 but he asked $5k for it, then later upped it to $50k as we were to close. Wonder where he is today

Yes, from coblee.

Nice set!


I have not yet seen a complete coin/holo set together in one place, but I'm pretty sure one exists... somewhere... I guess  ???

I wouldn't be too sure.  As far as I know there's only 5 people in the world currently holding 1000 BTC coins with intact holograms.

Well, there can be only one full set.

To be clear, only 1 500BTC bar exists.  Only two were made, and one was redeemed.

None of mine are graded and complete set does exist, sans 1000 BTC unfunded of course

Anyone want to make some guesses at what this collection is worth?

1000 BTC - 20,000
10 BTC silver - 16 BTC
10 BTC gilt  - 18 BTC
.1 BTC  - 0.7 BTC
.5 BTC - no guess
1 BTC silver - 1.7 BTC
1 BTC gilt - 2.2 BTC
St. Petersburg coin- $200

brass 1 BTC - 1.3 BTC
brass 1 BTC error 1.8 BTC
brass 0.5 BTC - 0.8 BTC
buying the entire collection in one deal - priceless

Those are my guesses

20 btc for the unloaded 1000btc coin??? No way...

I think he meant 20K usd... so like 8btc? Coblee had (has?) a bunch for sale at 14btc/ea, so that's probably low

I think you're a little off there. Prices for the 0.1 silver and the brass coins have dropped significantly over the past few months. Someone recently offered a silver MS-69 0.1 for 0.4 BTC. A brass 0.5 BTC recently sold for 0.57.

           Very nice collection indeed. :)

           I can only dream of collecting the higher end coins.

          When you displayed the holograms, why did you black out the numbers?

          Didn't Mike display them all online for everyone to see and check?    https://casascius.uberbills.com/

Simply because I can.  Some people are worried about dust being sent to their coins, but that isn't a problem for anyone who knows how to properly manage a Bitcoin wallet.

Ok...please enlighten me..what do you mean ""Some people are worried about dust being sent to their coins""

 

These coins were funded in one transaction by mike so a 1btc coin will have exactly 1btc on it.  To be an ass you can send .00000001 and now have the coin with 2 transactions equalling not the intended amount.  Was a concern way back now i think mass dusting is a moot point with fees being so high.  Some people dont mind it some do

Ok I see now...that makes sense..But can they not just go the the uberbills website and send everyone there that amount and theoretically dust every loaded coin? And when he says properly manage a Bitcoin Wallet, what does that mean? Does it mean just black out the FirstBits?  Thankyou again for your time

They can dust the coins, but it would be expensive and pointless.  You can easily exclude inputs from outgoing transactions, so getting dusted isn't a real issue.  

If someone did feel like dusting coins, there's a nice list of available targets here:
https://nastyfans.org/mint.json

Yep I see now. And yes that is a nice list. Thanks

 Technically, the one full set would require both 500 BTC bars, as they are from different versions.
 I happened to know that the 500 BTC bar which is redeemed, still has its peeled sticker in place :-)

 Far more likely, two sets will eventually be made, one with the redeemed, one with the unredeemed.

 I expect coblees 1000 coins to be silently acquired over the coming month.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1336253.msg15134893#msg15134893

Dont know if the funded 500 ever sold but id like to think if one semi complete set was made that would be a feat.

 Perhaps I could guess you choose the Ron Swanson route to protect your collections?  ;D ( this will make sense if you're a Parks and Rec fan)

https://youtu.be/i77E3WxgX-c?t=11s

hahah , that's awesome !

How do you exclude inputs? I've never heard of this. Especially since you don't actually have the priv key...

Very nice Og, I like both slabbed & unslabbed Casascius, I should do a photo shoot someday, need to gather them up from the various bank safety deposit boxes around the place in three countries where they're at presently, should look like this when I can:

0.1 BTC Silver 2013 - MS70

0.5 BTC Brass 2013 - MS69

0.5 BTC Silver, Series-2 2013 - MS68

0.5 BTC Silver, Series-3 2013 - MS70

1.0 BTC Brass, Series-1 Error 2011 - MS69

1.0 BTC Brass, Series-2 (2011) 2011 - MS67

1.0 BTC Brass, Series-2 (2012) 2012 - MS69

1.0 BTC Brass, Series-2 (2013) 2013 - MS69

1.0 BTC All-Silver 2013 - MS70

1.0 BTC Silver with Gold Trim 2013 - MS70

5 BTC, Series-1 2012 - MS68

5 BTC, Series-2 2012 - MS68

10 BTC, All-Silver 2012 - MS67

10 BTC, Silver with Gold Trim 2012 - MS65

25 BTC, Series-1 2011 - to grade - https://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=1QBWPrTPz5EZ23KLCDAtRf2HGjH89ZLw1K & https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1811869.0;all

25 BTC, Series-2 2011 - MS66

1,000 BTC 1oz Gold 2012 - None (as yet) - Note there were 50 gold coins made, approx 2 prototype, approx 5 series 1, approx 43 series 2.

1,000 BTC BIP 38 Private Keys Unfunded 'Casasius' Error Series 2 Gold 1oz coins - to grade - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1812466.0;all & http://imgur.com/a/pZvAR

Standard Bearer Bars - originally unfunded, now with various amounts that I added

St. Petersburg Bitcoin Bowl Coin .999 Silver 1oz, 2014 (850 put into circulation) - to grade

Void press BTC token 2013 - to grade https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1933379.0

10 BTC BitBill & Lealana Kamehameha coins, etc...

I may have snaffled a higher grade one or two and not listed it as yet, but likely these are the highest grades that I have atm, anyone with any higher grades or super condition ungraded ones that they'd like to let go anytime please feel free to PM me if you're offering them for auction &/or sale :)

Wow such a nice set will be worth a fortune one day!

Wow! Thats a monster collection, though still missing this one ;) https://coinfirm.org/product/s1-1-btc-2011-double-error-2 (https://coinfirm.org/product/s1-1-btc-2011-double-error-2)

Incredible..You got the collection that I can only dream of. My hats off to you :)

That is an impressive collection. Something most of us can only dream of :o

He means when redeeming.  You sign a transaction but don't include the dust. 

Just noticed this thread switched to [WTS]... Got an asking price for all those pretties?  :o

Do you have an asking price for the goldie with the heart?  :-)

Somewhere in the neighborhood of a quarter million dollars.

Man oh man... if you only included both bitnickels to really complete the set (obv less bars, one-offs, and debatable anomalies), I would be all over that.


I'd trade it for an original F40.

It comes loaded, right?    ;D

i think im drooling , what a collection

Are you interested on selling it per piece? I want the cas 2013. PM me if you are interested and name your price. :)

A nice little collection :)

This post is one my favs.  ;D

Out of curiosity how much for the 10 BTC silver ?

Best regards
Edi

wooowww  :o  :o

so beautiful

*faints*

Off the charts incredible  :)  Won't be visiting this neighborhood anytime soon but, fun to dream

Had to update the images since they were no longer displaying.  :)

Incredible to see the 1000 BTC. Wonder what previous sales have fetched for a peeled 1000, if any?

Dammmn OG.. This collection is the best! I assume at least MS-69 grade to all of those silver coin. I'm curious on how much money in FIAT do you spend on those silver?





_{Please notify me if you magically decided to raffle some of your coin.}  ;D ;D ;D

I’ve never seen a peeled 1000 BTC coin auction or sale, good question if there’s ever been one.  There’s both funded and unfunded DIY Casascius 1000 coins, and I know there’s been a few sales for the DIY version here..not sure what they fetched though.

Perhaps Coblee can answer that question. He's the one who sold a bunch of the DIY coins a while ago.

oh man how early!! wonderful couns

insane 500k+

This is such a treat just to see this collection, especially the 1000 btc coin.  Super congrats Og, very cool indeed 8) 8) 8) 8)

Dope collection. Thanks for sharing.

Very impressive collection

I’ve never seen a peeled 1000 BTC coin either. The unloaded rounds were selling for around 8 BTC at one point but I imagine they’d be much less now.

The last Cas gold 1000 unfunded sold for 3.5BTC that I know of and btc was ~$8500 at the time.

Besides of a dozen of 1btc brass Casascius which I bought at more than 7 years ago,
I also have several dozen or so pc of BTCC Mint Titanium coins, as well as some BTCC Poker Chips.
Shall make a showcase of them someday if uploading pics is quite easy here.

About one and half year ago, I had won bidding of a Baby Five from an auction
hosted in a We-chat group. The Baby Five is a 5-btc titanium coin but its size
is a little bit smaller than the regular 5-btc titanium. Of this coin, only 5 pc were
ever produced and I have one of them now.  ;D

I guess that the remainder 4 Baby Fives are still in the possession
of Mr Bobby Lee, who's elder brother of Charlie Lee.

Yes please do. I'm sure most would love to see it! You can use https://imgur.com. Also regarding the WeChat group you mention in the post below are BTCC and Cas coins actively traded in China via WeChat groups these days?

iBHK8

Hi,

You can use an image upload site such as https://imgur.com/

Then select the "bbcode" link option and copy /paste that bbcode in here to see the pics.

For example :

https://i.imgur.com/Kb9Z3tb.jpg

thanks!

Yes, Sir. In a certain We-chat group where I'm in, 7 or 8 auctions may be were sponsored mostly for bidding
the BTCC Mint coins and poker chips.

OP how much is that 2013 one with the gold B and silver background (1 Bitcoin) worth would you say?

I've sold many of them for well over 2 BTC.  I haven't bought or sold one in a while though, so I'm not sure my opinion is up to date.  I wouldn't be overly surprised to see one sell for 1.25 BTC or 1.85 BTC. 

~1.4-1.6BTC currently depending on condition etc.

I'll try it, thanks.

I’ve got an extra 0.1 BTC Silver Casascius coin I may be selling if anyone was looking for one. Feel free to pm me an offer. Condition is excellent.

Sold.

Would also consider offers around a million dollars in USD at current rates if someone wanted to arrange this.  We could set it up through a lawyer and use an established escrow agency.

How does such a perfect collection go this long without being graded? I cant even handle having an ungraded CI coin in my collection

    My cas coins are all ungraded..Its not that I do not want to grade them...its a matter that the ONLY WAY I would grade them was for me to physically going to the grading place...have them graded in front of me and THEN
    leave with them in my hands.

    Its also a matter that some people do not trust the shipping...and with something of this value, I would not part with them in any way.

    Thats my 2 Satoshi..I am sure others do not mind shipping in the mail. But I would. At todays BTC prices, there is too much at stake.

I agree completely but there have been years these could have been graded where shipping would not have been an issue or you can do what i do and pay an icg employee to travel to you to gather all the coins at once and then bring them back to your nearest airport when done :)

The dangers of moving a collection like this are real and that is always a consideration.  However, my main reason to not have these graded is that I believe grading is only a negative thing for most coins (obviously there are exceptions).  Removing these coins from their capsules and exposing them to oxygen as well as other potential contaminants along with adding more people to the chain of possession can only be a bad thing in my opinion.  I've seen cases where graded coins begin to tarnish where their ungraded counterparts did not, leading me to suspicions that not all coins are properly handled when being graded.  I've also seen enough coins graded and then re-graded to get a wildly different grade, so I have my doubts as to how valid the ratings are anyway.  I don't want my collection's worth to be determined by whose desk it landed on or if that person is having a good day or not and I don't want to trust that the person handling them is going to do so properly as I have no way to verify this.  It is simply a case of a lot of risk and no tangible reward in my opinion.  

I am considering selling off some of my brass Casascius coins individually in the future. Likely beginning with the most recently produced. If anyone would like to make me an offer, feel free to send a PM. Not looking for trades.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/sqJXz.jpeg
2011 1 BTC 1st series
2011 1 BTC 2nd series
2012 1 BTC
2013 1 BTC
2013 0.5 BTC

I'm curious what people think a fair price for this set of coins is these days.  The two 2011 coins especially, as the first one is coveted for it's famous error hologram and the second is pretty rare from what I've witnessed over the years.

OG...been a while...good to see the Casascius market still alive and well. So many of these coins being redeemed lately with low premiums and skyrocketing value of BTC. Think I saw a 25BTC go down the other day? At this rate, won't be many left of an already extremely limited initial supply. Will be interesting to see what happens to the numismatic value and premium once Bitcoin becomes the global standard against which other assets are denominated...

Hello

I am interested in 0.5 and 0.1 Silvers. Please pm.

The silvers I'm offering only as a set at the moment.  I will begin offering the brass ones at auction soon.  I will probably start with the 0.5 BTC brass coin and go from there.  I can send you a message when I do and let you know.

I have been getting some tempting offers for individual coins so I've reached out to a few people who have expressed interest over the years.  If you've had your eye on one of these coins, feel free to drop an offer to me via PM, as it is more and more tempting by the day to begin breaking up or peeling this collection.  I will most likely still offer many of them at auction but I'm not opposed to skipping that process if the opportunity presents and someone would appreciate more privacy than a public auction offers.

...watching...

I mean, it's worth the cost just to meet me and have a few beers.  The coins are really just a bonus keepsake of our time together.

Asking price lowered to 35 BTC.  Payment will need to be made in advance of receiving coins.

This thread is amazing. What a collection OgNasty!

Question: There are a lot of differing opinions on the grading from ANACS. Most coins are rare enough that an MS66 versus MS67 is not worth much to me, whereas it does with USA mint coins that have Billions minted each year. However, how is ANACS doing in regards to authenticating the coin? Counterfeiters are what threaten the value of all this and an authenticator will eventually really matter (I think). Do you agree? Is ANACS any good at this?

Building on this, how does ICG compare to ANACS? I have a bunch of physicals that I’d like to grade at some point and will need to decide between the two.

That's why I value Gold Anacs the most. When they were being done, the value of most Cas coins was low enough that the hassle and risk involved in getting counterfeit coins slabbed was not really worth the pay off. These days, be much more worth trying to get past the authentication coin graders provide.

OgNasty:

My advise, which I admit is not worth much, is for you to consider a large auction house that is accustomed to selling major high priced items. Christie's, Sotheby's, etc. This is a world class collection, very historical and relevant right now. I think if you engage a broader market with people that know how to market to the highest net-wealth class, you might be surprised.

This would certainly be an avenue I would pursue if peeling didn't exist as an option.  Being totally honest, the USD value of these coins has surpassed any expectation I ever had for them.  If/when I decide it is time to cash them out, peeling is a legitimate option due to it's simplicity.  Selling the collection to someone on the forum for a BTC premium would be my preferred method as I'd like to see this collection live on in tact, but I doubt I would deal with an auction house as that seems like a pain in the ass and the auction house would likely be the main benefactor. 

I should start auctioning the brass coins here soon.  I've just been focusing my time on other things lately while hoping someone steps up to purchase the entire collection. 

One coin I won't be peeling is the 1000 BTC gold round... :P

The auction houses charge a buyer's fee, which most wealthy buyers don't put much if any weight on, so you'd end up with the sale amount -- just fyi.

Fees are fees.  Regardless of which side it's taken from.  This just isn't how I do business with crypto.  I actually have quite a bit of experience dealing with auction houses dating back several decades and while I haven't ever dealt with one of the HUGE auction houses, I think it's safe to say that I would have been better off avoiding auctioneers with every interaction I ever had with them. 

I'm a very long term and 'wealthy' buyer from all of the major auction houses, I can assure you that we do pay attention to the approx 25% buyers fee with often sales tax on top of that, lol the wealthy don't just ignore or not notice an extra 25% on what they bid, FYI.

Also, the seller has to pay commission too, unless they are in a position to negotiate this away, it's usually 10%

I do hope though that there will be a collectables market with the major auction houses for physical crypto once bitcoin really becomes established say in 2023, especially now that Christie's are getting in on the NFT honeypot (https://www.christies.com/features/Monumental-collage-by-Beeple-is-first-purely-digital-artwork-NFT-to-come-to-auction-11510-7.aspx)

I did personally suggest it to Spink back in 2012 as an opportunity to do a world's first and offered them a near full set of Cas coins, but of course, they failed to see the opportunity same as most back then.

I looked into auction houses and they told me the coins would need to be graded and slabbed before they would consider auctioning them.  Mine are not slabbed so there is that.

You can always get them graded and slabbed if that’s your goal for the future auction houses.

ICG  - comes highly recommended for one.

Thanks!

OG- I think I missed the point suggesting the auction house. I actually agree with your sensibility here. Screw 'em : )

The bigger point that I didn't communicate well is this. A collection like yours is one that could produce some buzz (like the NFTs selling for huge sums right now) that would bring attention to the physical bitcoin hobby. I think the hobby is one or two more high profile sales away from getting lit on fire. Could be good for Nasty Fans and everyone else. It will happen eventually regardless...

Lovely collection. Come to think about it, this could be worth 100's of millions by 2030. Good luck!

Thanks.  I'll probably still be trying to sell them then but the return in USD is tantalizing to think about. 

Maybe I should just do a raffle?  2.25 BTC per spot, winner take all or each coin raffled separately...  What do you think?  Who's in?  :D

I’ve been thinking about selling a Casascius or two (few 1s and 0.5s) but I’m in the UK and the market is very limited here.

I also would be very concerned about posting them. It’s a beautiful collection Og. I remember from many moons ago when I first discovered this forum seeing some of these coins :)

Question: There are a lot of differing opinions on the grading from ANACS. Most coins are rare enough that an MS66 versus MS67 is not worth much to me, whereas it does with USA mint coins that have Billions minted each year. However, how is ANACS doing in regards to authenticating the coin? Counterfeiters are what threaten the value of all this and an authenticator will eventually really matter (I think). Do you agree? Is ANACS any good at this?

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I'm sure ANACS uses the public address as the first verification of the coins as any of us would.  Now that they have some HD images of previous graded coins it would be considerably more difficult to get a fake through. Plus the loaded dates are another tool :)

It is indeed a concern.  I don't think I'll be shipping any of mine across the pond, but I've had pretty good luck shipping domestically. 
*knocks on wood

It would be great to find one single buyer for the entire collection and meet with them in person to ensure a smooth transition.  I've run out of duplicates to sell though, so I may have to start digging into this collection soon. 

I think I will likely start with the Bitcoin St. Petersburg Bowl coin as it wasn't pictured in the collection anyway.  :P  Anybody have any idea what those are going for these days or want to make an offer?  The brass coins are also likely "soon" to the auction block so if you'd like to make a purchase out of the public eye, PM me.

A picture worth almost 1.5 million dollars, now there's something you don't see every day. That is indeed an incredible collection OgNasty, congratulations!

May I ask how much time did you "invested" in gathering up all this coins? How did this "mission" came to your mind? Was it something that you supported right from the start, or the notion of having a physical coin of BTC was too much to pass on?

I kept my eye out for listings in the early years. The only coins I found difficult to get my hands on were the s2 2011 1 BTC brass coin and the 1000 BTC gold coin.

I didn’t set out to collect them all at first. I liked the idea of them so I purchased one of the originals with the error. Then I liked the silver ones so I bought them. At that point it just seemed like I might as well complete the collection so I slowly grabbed the rest. If I had more time before BTC got ridiculously expensive I probably would have purchased the 5 & 25 BTC rounds as well.

I had long wanted to make my own silver coin and when I discovered BTC one of the first things I did was reach out to Gavin Andresen for advice on a coin I wanted to make. He didn’t seem to like the idea because it wasn’t tied to any actual Bitcoin  (several years later I made them anyway, my Bitcoin binary rounds). Casascius coins seemed to solve that problem of not being tied to Bitcoin but ran into a different issue with selling loaded coins that needed to be solved. Nevertheless, I wanted to own what I considered to be a great innovation on the idea of a coin and so I did.

Interesting read, thank you about that. It's funny to think/know that some people desires (in your case the initial liking of the whole idea) end up turning into valuable collections/items. I do reckon that even if you don't find any buyer for them you'll still manage to have a physical display of something that already has it's place in history + in the future you may be sitting in something that will be even more desirable. In that regard I wish you the best of luck in selling these.

Also, thank you for sharing your story regarding how this collection came to be.

You're welcome.  I tend to think we're all living a Slumdog Millionaire type story of our own (Disclaimer: I've never actually seen the movie but it has been on my watch list for years).  When you find that thing that takes all of your life experience and puts it to use, it's a wonderful feeling and it's own reward.  I think if I didn't have that desire you mention, I probably would have sold off my coins very early on.  I remember showing family members a 10 BTC coin one time and telling them I could probably sell it for $15,000 very early on.  I was told I'd better cash it in or I could regret it for the rest of my life.  I imagine many early Bitcoiners have plenty of stories like this and the ability to stick with your gut is the difference between realizing that value or having regrets.  In this case it was easy, because I really appreciated Casascius' innovation and liked that it was something completely new that would open the door for more innovations, which I also attempted to foster with my own creation.

I am currently asking $1,178,429 for this collection according to Google.  I am posting this because I thought it might be fun to see how this amount fluctuates over time.  I suspect that in December this amount will either be staggeringly high, or terrifyingly low.  Any guesses?

Just for comparison's sake, when I made this post the asking price would have been $93,240.  Shockingly, many people say that Casascius coins have lost value during this period, but the extra million dollars doesn't feel like lost value to me.  I guess it all depends on your perspective and attachment to reality. :)

I’m bad at math. What % premium are you using to calculate this?

I'm bad at semantics.  What is it you're asking?  

If I assume correctly that you're asking about the BTC loaded amount vs sale price, I think the answer would be at least for the 1000 BTC gold coin, a ∞ (infinite) premium.  

Yes, loaded versus sale price. Didn’t notice the gold coin previously — it’s a stunner.

The 0.5 BTC brass Casascius coin has been sold. It is no longer a part of this collection and has a new owner. I figured I should post this update in the event people were still watching this thread.

As a result of this sale, I’m willing to sell the remainder of the brass coins individually also, but for now the silver series coins are sticking together (unless I receive an offer I can’t refuse).

I’ve also gotten a few inquiries on the gold 1,000 BTC coin, but nothing within the realm of consideration. Please do not be offended if I ignore offers that aren’t within consideration.

Holy shit, this makes me feel like ive wasted my life.

If someone asked you for the price of the 1000 Bitcoin coin, what do you think would be a fair price, I always wondered how much such a coin could be worth.

I have no idea. I’m not interested in fair prices. I’m only interested in offers that are so good I can’t refuse them. I think the highest offer I’ve rejected for it was around $30,000. It should also be noted that the coin is not loaded. If it were loaded, I don’t think a fair price could exist for it as it’s got to be the one of the most highly prized collectibles in crypto. I’ll also mention that I’ve gotten quite a few offers that mention the spot price of gold :D in their offer which I have a tendency to ignore and then receive hate messages for not negotiating. Anyway, enjoy the pics. They’re all I get to see of them too, so it’s kinda like they’re all of ours, we just keep them at my bank.

I say the value is 34k. Im guessing the to good to refuse pice is 58k. What i want to know is. What was the lowest price you received? Truly a spectacular coin. One youll probably never see again. I feel like i owe you money for looking at it.

I know you’re kidding, but I’d just like to ask, if these were sitting in your safe deposit box instead of mine, would you really feel your life was any different?



The first look is free. If you reload the image or stare at it for longer than 2 minutes then it’s suggested to make a donation to the curator’s address: 168WXhArv7Fasqvi2xm5MQMfLhG18jifMe & if you right click save it you’ll be hearing from my NFT attorney!  :D

The lowest offer I’ve received for it I believe was something around $3,500 and when I politely declined I was called names and told that I’m lucky someone offered above spot for it. :)

  Day to day there would be no difference. But how did you feel about them when btc was 1k versus now how you feel about them when btc is 30-60. I bet your feelings on them have changed. The difference in feeling comes with the core belief that btc will be a million dollars a coin someday. Sure no change day to day, but your early forsight has changed the destiny of your family for generations to come. If played right your childrens children will live better, be smarter, have more, be healthier and praise you. Its not money, its wealth growing before your eyes. For those of us who love btc as much as you do but were just late to the party. These represent the pinnacle of success. Doesn't matter what anyone offers you. Dont sell them. Your grandchildren will sell them for a 100 million someday. Thanks for sharing

If these were mine i wouldnt keep them at the bank. Id put them on the bed and role on them naked every night.

In that case, for the sake of future owners, I am glad that they are not yours.   :D

Although I am willing to roll naked on them if it adds to the premium or there are enough people willing to subscribe to my onlyfans.  Discounts available if you pay for your subscription in bitcoin. 

*wonders silently if he should hire a model to start a crypto onlyfans posing with rare crypto products.
(oh wait, I already did that sort of: https://opensea.io/collection/blockchain-treasure )

~ BUMP ~

I'm still accepting outrageously overpriced offers from collectors.  The only coin from the OP that is no longer available for sale is the 0.5 brass Casascius coin, which was recently sold with no issues.  Would like to move the brass ones first before moving on to the pièce de résistance.  Feel free to reach out to me via PM with any offers, but be aware that 1) I won't ship anything until I've received payment & 2) I've been holding onto most of these coins for around a decade and am in no rush to sell them so please no lowball offers.  With BTC having fallen so much recently, this seems like a good time to be overpaying in BTC for these collector's items.  :)

I went ahead and updated the images in the OP so that people can see them without having to look at the code and load them externally.  I had assumed that the forum would update their now broken links but since someone brought this thread up to me I figured I'd go ahead and manually update it.  Enjoy!

Still open to parting with the newer brass coins without making you purchase the entire set.  As always feel free to reach out to me via PM with any offers or questions.

wow this thread is so cool.

I got quite a few messages from different members last night but I guess people don’t like posting on this thread. LOL

Summing up the commonly asked questions… No, I will not break up the precious metals collection to sell the 0.1 BTC Casascius coin. No, I will not sell the gold Casascius coin for less than a BTC. No, the NastyFans Minted Seats are not individually for sale (they are a complete set all numbered #1 in each series).

If buyers are interested in individual coins, the brass ones would be the best bet to make an offer on. Breaking up the other sets to sell a single coin would require an offer I can’t refuse.

Just an FYI. I will only accept BTC for these coins. No USD in any form will be accepted for any reason.

Maybe the premiums will turn around someday. Right now people aren't paying much for anything sadly. good luck with your sale.

I have sold off the St.Petersburg Bitcoin Bowl Coin that was made by Casascius. I don’t believe it was ever pictured on this thread, nor does it hold actual BTC, but I wanted to update anyone that may be watching this thread. The brass coins are still available for sale if anyone wants them individually. Happy coining!