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Title: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 10:29:24 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.0

as per above thread OG was called out for deleting posts from his self modded thread, a bet was made where he needed to provide a time stamped photo that the coins were all intact.

he did not come through with the valid proof and has taken the escrow funds and given half to his "fans" (if you arent aware this is some front to avoid US regulation)

please be aware of his biased opinions - I would not trust this man with 0.1BTC, never mind the forum funds that he currently holds. 

1) he should of returned the funds and not accepted being the escrow.
2) he should of allowed a 3rd party to mediate the discussion

I look forward to other peoples opinions as I may be incorrect.

please also note I have offered to pass the full .4BTC to wikileaks so that OG doesn't "lose face" but that was declined as was letting the collectibles community decide.

I was left with no choice than to open this thread.

thanks

T


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: OgNasty on June 02, 2017, 10:38:33 PM
TMAN sent funds to my public address without my consent.  I at no point said I would escrow.  It was payment for me posting this picture:

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3d5aT.jpeg
click to immerse yourself in every detail... (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3d5aT.jpeg)

I assume these are probably the ones in question as they hold a majority of the BTC value:
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3d7Tl.jpeg
click to immerse yourself in every detail... (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3d7Tl.jpeg)

He didn't believe the holograms were intact and forced me to prove it with threats of trying to destroy my reputation if I didn't.  Now he is trying any angle he can to recover his funds for his stupid decision to not trust I was telling the truth.  I will repeat that I don't self escrow and this individual is abusing the forums and trust system.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 10:40:36 PM
you self escrowed. I do not want the funds - I want all of it to go to charity. this  is not about me trying to get funds back - this is about outing OG for the nasty piece of work that he is.

I requested a time stamped photo - not what you supplied - therefore you lost the bet. you are stealing funds from escrow without someone else mediating the issue.

DO NOT TRUST OG or anything he is associated with.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: OgNasty on June 02, 2017, 10:54:30 PM
you self escrowed. I do not want the funds - I want all of it to go to charity. this  is not about me trying to get funds back - this is about outing OG for the nasty piece of work that he is.

I requested a time stamped photo - not what you supplied - therefore you lost the bet. you are stealing funds from escrow without someone else mediating the issue.

DO NOT TRUST OG or anything he is associated with.

1) I didn't agree to give you a timestamped photo.
2) I said I would do so now that you specified it as a requirement after the fact, and you say no it's too late (this occurred today).
3) You didn't pay an escrow fee, so you either short paid a bet, or are lying about escrow.  Both deserve negative trust.
4) You lost the bet.  Escrow or not, the funds are no longer yours.

Also interesting is the verbiage used in your negative trust rating.  I said that to the escrow scammer in PM yesterday.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
you self escrowed. I do not want the funds - I want all of it to go to charity. this  is not about me trying to get funds back - this is about outing OG for the nasty piece of work that he is.

I requested a time stamped photo - not what you supplied - therefore you lost the bet. you are stealing funds from escrow without someone else mediating the issue.

DO NOT TRUST OG or anything he is associated with.

1) I didn't agree to give you a timestamped photo.
2) I said I would do so now that you specified it as a requirement after the fact, and you say no it's too late (this occurred today).
3) You didn't pay an escrow fee, so you either short paid a bet, or are lying about escrow.  Both deserve negative trust.
4) You lost the bet.  Escrow or not, the funds are no longer yours.

the time stamped photo was asked for twice in the thread. End of I did not lose the bet...

I gave you 2 outs and you refused both. so lets see the real OG come out - or sorry should I say nano?


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 11:01:19 PM
you self escrowed. I do not want the funds - I want all of it to go to charity. this  is not about me trying to get funds back - this is about outing OG for the nasty piece of work that he is.

I requested a time stamped photo - not what you supplied - therefore you lost the bet. you are stealing funds from escrow without someone else mediating the issue.

DO NOT TRUST OG or anything he is associated with.

1) I didn't agree to give you a timestamped photo.
2) I said I would do so now that you specified it as a requirement after the fact, and you say no it's too late (this occurred today).
3) You didn't pay an escrow fee, so you either short paid a bet, or are lying about escrow.  Both deserve negative trust.
4) You lost the bet.  Escrow or not, the funds are no longer yours.

Also interesting is the verbiage used in your negative trust rating.  I said that to the escrow scammer in PM yesterday.

ohh editing posts as well now.

are you accusing me of being an alt now ?

you are playing your trust and stealing funds from an unresolved bet.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: OgNasty on June 02, 2017, 11:14:37 PM
I'll just leave this here and note that by the time I was able to load the thread, TMAN had received the first 5 votes.  :D

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/11/3do7o.png


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 11:21:16 PM
ill just leave this here.... you are a dickhead who is abusing your power to steal funds..

this is petty I know, but as a forum trustee you should not be in a situation like this.

you chose to self escrow a bet - this bet is not resolved therefore you are stealing funds.



Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 02, 2017, 11:25:19 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.0

as per above thread OG was called out for deleting posts from his self modded thread, a bet was made where he needed to provide a time stamped photo that the coins were all intact.

he did not come through with the valid proof and has taken the escrow funds and given half to his "fans" (if you arent aware this is some front to avoid US regulation)

please be aware of his biased opinions - I would not trust this man with 0.1BTC, never mind the forum funds that he currently holds. 

1) he should of returned the funds and not accepted being the escrow.
2) he should of allowed a 3rd party to mediate the discussion


I look forward to other peoples opinions as I may be incorrect.

please also note I have offered to pass the full .4BTC to wikileaks so that OG doesn't "lose face" but that was declined as was letting the collectibles community decide.

I was left with no choice than to open this thread.

thanks

T

as i was there throughout the whole thread and an active commenter I will add my concerns here about the bolded topics that never did get answered, only insults.

1) Blazed was the first Escrow Agent listed, since he was not around TMAN decided to use Zepher who backed out of acting as escrow due to not wanting to deal with the drama. Nowhere did I see OgNasty offer to self escrow for this bet. This however was said

In respect to Zepher and your backing of their Service, please follow the rules as escrow is serious on this board.

Yes, please.  Self-escrow is a very serious offense here.  Can we please get the funds to an independent and trusted escrow agent?  Is there one left other than me?

Pic is ready to go...  Let's get this figured out so I can get paid.

2) Had TMAN waited for a trusted escrow to act as mediator in the discussion and bet, proper terms would have been agreed upon by both parties. Instead he decided to send 0.2BTC (this amount was also never agreed on) to the address that OgNasty had listed for the Escrow Agent to send funds to if he did indeed win this bet.


Looking at OGNasty's escrow thread here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.0 ) it is clear that TMAN should have sent 0.202 to the address if he were serious about using OgNasty as an escrow.

I now ask for the comment wherein OgNasty agrees to self-escrow for no fee in the thread listed in OP of this accusation.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 11:29:27 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.0

as per above thread OG was called out for deleting posts from his self modded thread, a bet was made where he needed to provide a time stamped photo that the coins were all intact.

he did not come through with the valid proof and has taken the escrow funds and given half to his "fans" (if you arent aware this is some front to avoid US regulation)

please be aware of his biased opinions - I would not trust this man with 0.1BTC, never mind the forum funds that he currently holds. 

1) he should of returned the funds and not accepted being the escrow.
2) he should of allowed a 3rd party to mediate the discussion


I look forward to other peoples opinions as I may be incorrect.

please also note I have offered to pass the full .4BTC to wikileaks so that OG doesn't "lose face" but that was declined as was letting the collectibles community decide.

I was left with no choice than to open this thread.

thanks

T

as i was there throughout the whole thread and an active commenter I will add my concerns here about the bolded topics that never did get answered, only insults.

1) Blazed was the first Escrow Agent listed, since he was not around TMAN decided to use Zepher who backed out of acting as escrow due to not wanting to deal with the drama. Nowhere did I see OgNasty offer to self escrow for this bet. This however was said

In respect to Zepher and your backing of their Service, please follow the rules as escrow is serious on this board.

Yes, please.  Self-escrow is a very serious offense here.  Can we please get the funds to an independent and trusted escrow agent?  Is there one left other than me?

Pic is ready to go...  Let's get this figured out so I can get paid.

2) Had TMAN waited for a trusted escrow to act as mediator in the discussion and bet, proper terms would have been agreed upon by both parties. Instead he decided to send 0.2BTC (this amount was also never agreed on) to the address that OgNasty had listed for the Escrow Agent to send funds to if he did indeed win this bet.


Looking at OGNasty's escrow thread here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303281.0 ) it is clear that TMAN should have sent 0.202 to the address if he were serious about using OgNasty as an escrow.

I now ask for the comment wherein OgNasty agrees to self-escrow for no fee in the thread listed in OP of this accusation.


why did OG not ask for a return address in the same way that Zepher ( a much more professional escrow) did?

OG was so sure of himself that he didn't think about repercussions of his actions. this is because OG believes he is above the rules.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 02, 2017, 11:31:54 PM
Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 11:39:11 PM
Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.

OG accepted the responsibility of the funds and did not ask for an address to return the funds to.

your point is silly - he could of returned the funds as zepher did


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 02, 2017, 11:45:02 PM
Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.

OG accepted the responsibility of the funds and did not ask for an address to return the funds to.

your point is silly - he could of returned the funds as zepher did

It looks more like you forced responsibility of the funds on OgNasty in an attempt to discredit him. Now please answer my question at the bottom of my first post and show me where he agrees to self-escrow. Thanks.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 02, 2017, 11:47:27 PM
Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.

OG accepted the responsibility of the funds and did not ask for an address to return the funds to.

your point is silly - he could of returned the funds as zepher did

It looks more like you forced responsibility of the funds on OgNasty in an attempt to discredit him. Now please answer my question at the bottom of my first post and show me where he agrees to self-escrow. Thanks.

he could of returned the funds - like any self respecting escrow would of done.

there was no attempts to discredit him, I believed I was right in my bet, I still do not know if I was correct or not due to OG not following through with what was asked. Hence the threads and lots of posts... OG could of avoided all this but he chose to keep it going


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 02, 2017, 11:51:31 PM
Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.

OG accepted the responsibility of the funds and did not ask for an address to return the funds to.

your point is silly - he could of returned the funds as zepher did

It looks more like you forced responsibility of the funds on OgNasty in an attempt to discredit him. Now please answer my question at the bottom of my first post and show me where he agrees to self-escrow. Thanks.

he could of returned the funds - like any self respecting escrow would of done.

there was no attempts to discredit him, I believed I was right in my bet, I still do not know if I was correct or not due to OG not following through with what was asked. Hence the threads and lots of posts... OG could of avoided all this but he chose to keep it going


I am getting tired of asking the same question. You opened this thread. Now provide proof so the readers can take proper steps whether it be negative trust, not using his escrow service, etc...


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 03, 2017, 12:03:37 AM
Please provide the proof I asked for in the bottom of my post. It will clear up this whole situation. I may have missed it in the other thread but as of right now it is up to you to provide the information to prove that this scam accusation is legitimate.

You can not answer my questions with other questions on this board.

OG accepted the responsibility of the funds and did not ask for an address to return the funds to.

your point is silly - he could of returned the funds as zepher did

It looks more like you forced responsibility of the funds on OgNasty in an attempt to discredit him. Now please answer my question at the bottom of my first post and show me where he agrees to self-escrow. Thanks.

he could of returned the funds - like any self respecting escrow would of done.

there was no attempts to discredit him, I believed I was right in my bet, I still do not know if I was correct or not due to OG not following through with what was asked. Hence the threads and lots of posts... OG could of avoided all this but he chose to keep it going


I am getting tired of asking the same question. You opened this thread. Now provide proof so the readers can take proper steps whether it be negative trust, not using his escrow service, etc...

i am tired of you popping everywhere I go giving OG virtual BJ's - just go away, if anyone else has any questions please fire away.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: vh on June 03, 2017, 12:39:30 AM
you self escrowed. I do not want the funds - I want all of it to go to charity. this  is not about me trying to get funds back - this is about outing OG for the nasty piece of work that he is.

I requested a time stamped photo - not what you supplied - therefore you lost the bet. you are stealing funds from escrow without someone else mediating the issue.

DO NOT TRUST OG or anything he is associated with.

1) I didn't agree to give you a timestamped photo.
2) I said I would do so now that you specified it as a requirement after the fact, and you say no it's too late (this occurred today).
3) You didn't pay an escrow fee, so you either short paid a bet, or are lying about escrow.  Both deserve negative trust.
4) You lost the bet.  Escrow or not, the funds are no longer yours.

Also interesting is the verbiage used in your negative trust rating.  I said that to the escrow scammer in PM yesterday.

This seems like the second time this week someone's sent you coins without your explicit consent and using it as an opportunity to whine.
Must be an escrow agent's biggest pain in the rear.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 03, 2017, 01:32:12 AM
you self escrowed. I do not want the funds - I want all of it to go to charity. this  is not about me trying to get funds back - this is about outing OG for the nasty piece of work that he is.

I requested a time stamped photo - not what you supplied - therefore you lost the bet. you are stealing funds from escrow without someone else mediating the issue.

DO NOT TRUST OG or anything he is associated with.

1) I didn't agree to give you a timestamped photo.
2) I said I would do so now that you specified it as a requirement after the fact, and you say no it's too late (this occurred today).
3) You didn't pay an escrow fee, so you either short paid a bet, or are lying about escrow.  Both deserve negative trust.
4) You lost the bet.  Escrow or not, the funds are no longer yours.

Also interesting is the verbiage used in your negative trust rating.  I said that to the escrow scammer in PM yesterday.

This seems like the second time this week someone's sent you coins without your explicit consent and using it as an opportunity to whine.
Must be an escrow agent's biggest pain in the rear.

If he didn't want the bet he could of sent the coianage back


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: Quickseller on June 03, 2017, 01:41:19 AM
you self escrowed.
You're an idiot.

There is no possible way that you were not aware who would be in possession of the funds held for your bet when you sent BTC to OgN's address.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 03, 2017, 01:55:15 AM
you self escrowed.
You're an idiot.

There is no possible way that you were not aware who would be in possession of the funds held for your bet when you sent BTC to OgN's address.

I was 100% aware - but as a forum trustee I believed he would be able to be impartial on a tiny bet... how wrong was I??

you QS are a prized fool - read the threads, then give an educated opinion. Don't just come running because one of your lovers asks you to.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 06:04:35 AM
There is no possible way that you were not aware who would be in possession of the funds held for your bet when you sent BTC to OgN's address.
That is entirely irrelevant. It is possible for a party to self escrow, whilst the other party is well aware of this. Unlike with your case, where you've deceived every single person you've ever worked for, effectively scamming both their trust and fees, both parties were well aware of this.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 03, 2017, 07:15:11 AM
There is no possible way that you were not aware who would be in possession of the funds held for your bet when you sent BTC to OgN's address.
That is entirely irrelevant. It is possible for a party to self escrow, whilst the other party is well aware of this. Unlike with your case, where you've deceived every single person you've ever worked for, effectively scamming both their trust and fees, both parties were well aware of this.

OG self escrowing this bet has led to me questioning his integrity, that's a word you wont understand QS..

now OG you continue to fight against me, you are showing the community what you really are. if you had faith in the community you would of let them decide the outcome of such a silly bet amount - but you don't have that faith.. and I am pretty sure that will bite you in the arse long run.. 


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 03, 2017, 01:40:17 PM
There is no possible way that you were not aware who would be in possession of the funds held for your bet when you sent BTC to OgN's address.
That is entirely irrelevant. It is possible for a party to self escrow, whilst the other party is well aware of this. Unlike with your case, where you've deceived every single person you've ever worked for, effectively scamming both their trust and fees, both parties were well aware of this.

Seeings how TMAN won't answer or provide the proof and you're so big on the self-escrow portion of this bet Lauda. Show this community where OgNasty agreed to self-escrow. All I see is a childish TMAN donating 0.2BTC to the NastyMining public address.

Awaiting TMANs next insult against me.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 01:44:13 PM
-snip-
you're so big on the self-escrow portion of this bet Lauda.
Nonsense again. I am positive that you have comprehension issues and should look for help as this may lead to problematic situations in your life. Read my post carefully one more time. It does not mention OgNasty.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 03, 2017, 01:49:38 PM
-snip-
you're so big on the self-escrow portion of this bet Lauda.
Nonsense again. I am positive that you have comprehension issues and should look for help as this may lead to problematic situations in your life. Read my post carefully one more time. It does not mention OgNasty.

It's because neither of you can. This is a thread about OgNasty and a possible scam accusation. Why are you posting in it backing TMAN yet neither of you can actually provide any proof. You are both the laughing stock of any community.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 01:53:25 PM
It's because neither of you can. This is a thread about OgNasty and a possible scam accusation. Why are you posting in it backing TMAN yet neither of you can actually provide any proof. You are both the laughing stock of any community.
I don't have to provide any kind of proof of anything. A fair amount of people (if you were to take that poll as representative) side with TMAN, and a fair amount side with OgNasty. Who is right and who is wrong is completely subjective. You have shown great bias and the inability to objectively asses this situation. I have no idea why you persist commenting. Go back to the cave that you've crawled out.

You may want to visit a psychiatrist.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: teeGUMES on June 03, 2017, 02:03:53 PM
It's because neither of you can. This is a thread about OgNasty and a possible scam accusation. Why are you posting in it backing TMAN yet neither of you can actually provide any proof. You are both the laughing stock of any community.
I don't have to provide any kind of proof of anything. A fair amount of people (if you were to take that poll as representative) side with TMAN, and a fair amount side with OgNasty. Who is right and who is wrong is completely subjective. You have shown great bias and the inability to objectively asses this situation. I have no idea why you persist commenting. Go back to the cave that you've crawled out.

You may want to visit a psychiatrist.

This just goes to show that neither of you can come up with any sort of defense in showing that OgNasty is guilty of this self-escrow charge you've set upon him. Both Lauda and TMAN have personally attacked me everytime I have asked for an inkling of proof. That does not make me biased, it makes me a truth seeker.

You two can live happily together in your buttbuddy slack channel together forever. This will be my last post, not because little balls TMAN or extortion master Lauda have scared me away, only because I'm sick of running in circles around you two. Anybody who reads this from an outside perspective can see how you guys avoid the question I asked in my first post here.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 02:07:11 PM
This just goes to show that neither of you can come up with any sort of defense in showing that OgNasty is guilty of this self-escrow charge you've set upon him. Both Lauda and TMAN have personally attacked me everytime I have asked for an inkling of proof. That does not make me biased, it makes me a truth seeker.
You seem mentally challenged. I have not once said stated that OgNasty had self-escrowed in this thread. These kind of defamatory claims are utterly malicious and should be properly treated as such. Was I not *involved* in these discussions, I would act upon it. The current situation, a section infested with outright idiots, makes it very hard to make completely objective decisions unless you refuse to participate.


Title: Re: OgNasty Self Escrowing bets and not listening to the community to resolve.
Post by: TMAN on June 03, 2017, 02:33:40 PM
Right now the special school child has left the thread, if anyone else has any pertinent questions please fire away

cheers

T