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Title: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: OROBTC on June 03, 2017, 05:20:53 AM
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I signed up not too long ago with a VPN that allows me to choose from servers in quite a few countries.  As I write, I am now connected to France (not my own country).  I noticed at blockchain.info an ad popped up asking me if I would like to buy BTC with a credit/debit card.  Alas, the transaction was declined, possibly because my debit card is not from the EU...

Does using a VPN allow one to access services like gambling sites or perhaps less picky BTC selling sites for debit cards?  

Thanks mucho for any answers to the "newb-style" question.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: MadGamer on June 03, 2017, 08:52:42 AM
Using a VPN in most cases is useless as Its pretty known that the bitcoin community cares about It privacy so checking If a user is eligible for using a service based on the IP only doesn't make sense. The services that accepts credit or debit cards asks for ID verification so unless you are a citizen on that country, you can't do much.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: bL4nkcode on June 03, 2017, 08:53:37 AM
The answer of your question will depends on the site you want to visit particularly as there are many gambling sites out there, but mostly, people using VPNs to hide their location, IP address while gambling. And there are also many countries that gambling is banned (whether bitcoin gambling site or not), thats why many people there using VPNs to access this sites.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: Iranus on June 03, 2017, 09:05:53 AM
It can, but you're playing a very dangerous game if you do.

Any potentially personally identifiable information which you give them could be used to suspend your use of the service, and they could basically do that at will.

This is even worse on Bitcoin gambling sites because they're barely regulated.  Many of them have been known to actually take users' funds when they suspend accounts for suspicious activity.  This means that if you have a large amount of money with them, they could be clamouring to find an excuse to suspend your account. 


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: pangitka on June 03, 2017, 09:44:41 AM
I use VPN  in my previous account and every time I join signature campaign no one accepted me I think the reason is im abusing  IP address and it is probably prohibited.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: FLoving on June 03, 2017, 11:11:22 AM
I saw a number of companies allowing on their official places to use VPN to the citizens of those countries in which their service is not allowed. I think you have to use VPN for their services but still that will be a limited service for you for example for any bitcoin debit card you use a VPN to buy a card then at there you will be able to buy only a virtual card and not a plastic card.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: LeGaulois on June 03, 2017, 01:12:56 PM
No matter the IP used, if you are buying Bitcoin and using a card, your card will snitch your real location. Bank systems can see the country origin of the card used
Not to say some websites have protection for this, as there is no use to hide your IP, unless you're trying to fraud.
And also using VPN does not mean you are fully protected to show your real IP


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: judgecrypto on June 03, 2017, 01:55:30 PM
Certainly VPN can allow you to have access to BTC services that might not ordinarily be available in your home country, that is the main reason for inventing VPN machines but the challenges you might have depends on whether your vpn ip address is public or dedicated, whether it is blacklisted or not.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: krishnapramod on June 03, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
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I signed up not too long ago with a VPN that allows me to choose from servers in quite a few countries.  As I write, I am now connected to France (not my own country).  I noticed at blockchain.info an ad popped up asking me if I would like to buy BTC with a credit/debit card.  Alas, the transaction was declined, possibly because my debit card is not from the EU...

Does using a VPN allow one to access services like gambling sites or perhaps less picky BTC selling sites for debit cards?  

Thanks mucho for any answers to the "newb-style" question.

VPN has its benefits, but in cryptosphere it is a bit tricky. You can access sites, register, enjoy the layout, and even gamble if it is a gambling site, see only a few gambling sites have some country specific restrictions, and you win a good amount, boom ID please, oh this guy/gal is in the restricted list, finished. Why bother about these few.

EU is mucho a tax less continent. But hiding IP does mean the origin is also hideaway, debit cards have regulations, monitored, even though bitcoin is involved, you are stepping into a centralized zone.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: Hazir on June 03, 2017, 04:16:37 PM
Does using a VPN allow one to access services like gambling sites or perhaps less picky BTC selling sites for debit cards?  

Thanks mucho for any answers to the "newb-style" question.
No. Don't try that. It is common knowledge that credit/debit cards are tracked regardless of you using VPN or not.
Don't think that VPN will change anything when you are using credit card. Automated security system should reject your transaction every time.
Same with every other centralized payment method - only cryptocurrency is immune to this.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: chaser15 on June 03, 2017, 04:50:59 PM

Does using a VPN allow one to access services like gambling sites or perhaps less picky BTC selling sites for debit cards?  


Yes in most of the cases especially in gambling sites. I used VPN in the past in a gambling site because I don't know the real reason but I can't accessed it here in my country and others are having an experience. I able to withdraw with no problem as long as it's not that big amount.

For most secure transactions like debit cards, VPN could not help you as their security is more of advanced level as they are aware that some people might using VPN to access their sites. Even the purpose is not fishy, they can't take away the risk. Overall it depends on what type of BTC services people are accessing to.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: Omega Weapon on June 04, 2017, 02:03:25 AM
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I signed up not too long ago with a VPN that allows me to choose from servers in quite a few countries.  As I write, I am now connected to France (not my own country).  I noticed at blockchain.info an ad popped up asking me if I would like to buy BTC with a credit/debit card.  Alas, the transaction was declined, possibly because my debit card is not from the EU...

Does using a VPN allow one to access services like gambling sites or perhaps less picky BTC selling sites for debit cards?  

Thanks mucho for any answers to the "newb-style" question.
I don’t think that will work because a VPN has a limited amount of ips, so it will be very easy to get those ips blacklisted, also if someone did something wrong with that ip then you could be the one facing the consequences since they may believe it is you the one doing something wrong since you have the very same ip.


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: mesmerakyns on June 04, 2017, 04:00:41 AM
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I signed up not too long ago with a VPN that allows me to choose from servers in quite a few countries.  As I write, I am now connected to France (not my own country).  I noticed at blockchain.info an ad popped up asking me if I would like to buy BTC with a credit/debit card.  Alas, the transaction was declined, possibly because my debit card is not from the EU...

Does using a VPN allow one to access services like gambling sites or perhaps less picky BTC selling sites for debit cards?  

Thanks mucho for any answers to the "newb-style" question.
There is no point using VPN to buy Bitcoin for the fact that even though you successfully buy the Bitcoin from a restricted location, a verification might be requested of you cos most of this Bitcoin vendors are into KYC/AML now which is know your customer and anti money laundering. And if you can't provide a necessary I.D cos you are in a so called restricted country, that's one good reason to seize your funds and which they will so much love to. There reasons will be " it has been stated in there terms and conditions that certain citizens of a particular countries are exempted from using there services.
Trust me, it ain't worth it caus eventually you will lose your funds to them. Just a suggestion though. Cheers


Title: Re: Would Using a VPN Allow People to Access BTC Services Outside Their Country?
Post by: talkbitcoin on June 04, 2017, 10:00:55 AM
if the services you have in mind doesn't require you to sign up, provide documentation, link your identity, address, back account and things like that then your answer is yes, when using a VPN the site will simply see you as a someone from that country (France in your example) so it allows you to use their services if for example that service is only available to French!

there are ways to find out if someone is using a VPN or not as the website. but i don't think they will go that far. you can find a lot of articles online to see "if you are leaking" :D

click on the image to find out more:

https://www.doileak.com/res/logo/logo_lg.png (https://www.doileak.com/)