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Title: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: ImHash on June 03, 2017, 06:53:35 PM I need anyone owning these addresses to stop using them because I know their private keys, just stop using them, I will never steal a satoshi from them I'm just letting you know.
Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Other addresses: Code: 1BgGZ9tcN4rm9KBzDn7KprQz87SZ26SAMH I will sign messages with every and each one of them if needed. Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 07:01:08 PM 1) All of them are empty and unused for a long period of time. You are not stealing anything from anyone.
2) Signing a staked message from those addresses proves nothing. They could be yours to begin with. 3) The chance of finding a collision is absurdly low, let alone 7 collisions. This leads me to believe that this thread is pure bullshit. Please elaborate on the steps that you've taken which have led to "these collisions". Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: LoyceV on June 03, 2017, 07:06:59 PM The only way I really believe you have a collision, is if you can show 2 different private keys that both lead to the same address.
Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 07:10:11 PM The only way I really believe you have a collision, is if you can show 2 different private keys that both lead to the same address. Well, there are two ways of this happening:1) Person B generates the same privkey as Person A. 2) Person B generated a different privkey which hashes to the same address as that of Person A. It is extremely hard to prove the first one, and somewhat hard to prove the second one. The person A would have to come forward with the private key(s). Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: ImHash on June 03, 2017, 07:11:58 PM Please stop snapping at me like this I have a weak heart :D if I reveal the method which I found them then you will be able to get them as well but I used B6 method to find them. I also found 2 addresses with 2 private keys one is compressed and other one is not.
Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: Lauda on June 03, 2017, 07:13:55 PM if I reveal the method which I found them then you will be able to get them as well but I used B6 method to find them. This would imply that Bitcoin and basically almost the whole crypto ecosystem is broken. Please stop this nonsense. PM me the alleged *method*. Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: ImHash on June 03, 2017, 07:22:07 PM if I reveal the method which I found them then you will be able to get them as well but I used B6 method to find them. This would imply that Bitcoin and basically almost the whole crypto ecosystem is broken. Please stop this nonsense. PM me the alleged *method*. I inserted random numbers 99 times to generate them, completely by accident. I think it's time for everyone to dump their unsecured bitcoins then eh? The only coins if I ever find if belongs to Satoshi then I will share them with 10 people each 1BTC and will keep 40 for my self, OK maybe I run a few nodes with a few of them :D Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: pixie85 on June 03, 2017, 07:31:27 PM If you really can do it (which i doubt) please continue until you find an address with some coins on it and then share your find. I've personally made at least a hundred addresses, some of which I didn't really care about because they were disposable. You can create probably 2 addresses every second if you click fast enough, so chances of finding one with coins in this haystack is as low as winning a lottery.
Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: cpfreeplz on June 03, 2017, 07:52:07 PM If you're generating addresses using B6 aren't you just basically inputting 99 numbers ranging from 0-5? That doesn't seem like enough entropy to be safe but maybe I'm just a newb with understanding what the real chances are. Oh or maybe they did something like 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000001 etc. That would be pretty stupid if someone did, although I suppose someone in the entire world may have tried it. I would say trying easy numbers like this are probably how you found some addresses, correct?
Oh: 1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm = 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000001 Was this Satoshi's address? I just found 1 collision with the first one I tried. I found your method. Also please note, this is the same as making your online banking password "1" so whoever is actively using this is pretty nuts. It was just used in May! Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: ImHash on June 03, 2017, 08:32:33 PM Damn now I'm exposed :D the whole point of me posting this publicly is exactly to let such people know this is not the way to generate their addresses.
Now I have a question: Is it possible to find collisions like this using B6 even if someone never generated an address with this method but we could find their private keys? I even posted this on rico666 collision thread but he was rude and deleted my post. Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: cpfreeplz on June 04, 2017, 02:55:44 AM Damn now I'm exposed :D the whole point of me posting this publicly is exactly to let such people know this is not the way to generate their addresses. Now I have a question: Is it possible to find collisions like this using B6 even if someone never generated an address with this method but we could find their private keys? I even posted this on rico666 collision thread but he was rude and deleted my post. I don't see why not. Either way you are using the 99 digits to create the private key so... this could work with any address. I hope no one tried something else like 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000002 Couldn't these addresses still be encrypted under BIP38? Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: freedomno1 on June 04, 2017, 03:50:35 AM The manual collision entries could have been related to the blockchain wallet issue a few years ago if someone messed with RNG.
It could just be a bugging exchange wallet though but I don't see the origin address for these wallets so hard to say. https://bravenewcoin.com/news/blockchain-info-bug-exposes-users-private-keys/ Does happen rarely if someone code is crud lol... although I prefer the trolling than actual finds :p. Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: pooya87 on June 04, 2017, 03:54:40 AM Damn now I'm exposed :D the whole point of me posting this publicly is exactly to let such people know this is not the way to generate their addresses. Now I have a question: Is it possible to find collisions like this using B6 even if someone never generated an address with this method but we could find their private keys? I even posted this on rico666 collision thread but he was rude and deleted my post. the whole point of it seems more like trolling. because people already know there is no way of finding a collision and those who are not familiar with bitcoin won't come to the conclusion based on the thing you wrote! the rico666's so called collision is a stupid thing that is exactly finding these keys that are left there with a high chance of being found. these are all small numbers. and we have not yet forgotten the rootkit in his code which opened up "doors in the back" in computers of those who ran it ;) if I reveal the method which I found them then you will be able to get them as well but I used B6 method to find them. This would imply that Bitcoin and basically almost the whole crypto ecosystem is broken. Please stop this nonsense. PM me the alleged *method*. step 2: type in this url directory.io step 3: choose a couple and select and press Ctrl+c step 4: come here and press Ctrl+v Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: Lutpin on June 04, 2017, 03:55:50 AM Uncompressed: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm I'll just leave this here.Compressed: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1BgGZ9tcN4rm9KBzDn7KprQz87SZ26SAMH - snip - 1for instance 1EHNa6Q4Jz2uvNExL497mE43ikXhwF6kZm has seen a few transactions (its empty now), can anyone hazard it's private key? Wanna go further? Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754633.msg8512932#msg8512932 Is it possible to find collisions like this using B6 even if someone never generated an address with this method but we could find their private keys? That's roughly as likely as using any other method for generating private keys.You find trivial ones (like the 1) that people used either because of novelty or because of stupidity/ignorance. Was this Satoshi's address? No, Satoshi isn't an idiot.Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: pooya87 on June 04, 2017, 04:07:37 AM oh look i have found a collision in vanity addresses too :D
Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Wanna go further? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754633.msg8512932#msg8512932 even further: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=553487;sa=showPosts Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: AiWanChu on June 04, 2017, 04:08:50 AM I need anyone owning these addresses to stop using them because I know their private keys, just stop using them, I will never steal a satoshi from them I'm just letting you know. Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Other addresses: Code: 1BgGZ9tcN4rm9KBzDn7KprQz87SZ26SAMH I will sign messages with every and each one of them if needed. does these collisions work for any other alts like ETH for example? Or Just BTC? Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: digaran on June 04, 2017, 06:23:14 AM You will have to do it like this:
insert 1 with 98 zeros in front of it and then 11 with 97 zeroes, 111 with 96 0s and repeat the same thing with 1-2-3-4-5- and when you are done finding used address you'll have to check and see if it has any balance, you'll end up dead and yet to find a full address.lol Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: franky1 on June 04, 2017, 07:23:20 AM Yawwwwwn
more drama that just goes over the nonsense of a few years ago, all related to... directory.io its not natural collision. it was 'prepared' / drama collision. what some dont realise is the first few thousand addresses had at the time a little bit of funds placed on the early numbers randomly and purposefully as a kind of "omg they are active" tempter of creating fake drama of 'omg collission happen alot' but anyway spend your life going through every key, ask your great great great grandkids to carry on your project after you pass. you wont get far, and thats the point Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: adaseb on June 04, 2017, 08:58:19 AM Basically those are very low entropy private keys. Pretty much what this contest is about
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.0;all Same public keys as you found. Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: franky1 on June 04, 2017, 10:22:13 AM There's no way you can found private keys of bitcoin address by manual collision unless you found weakness/pattern how bitcoin address/private key is generated in certain bitcoin wallet OR you could break ECDSA easily. ETFbitcoin..... Directory.io.. even you should remember how that drama played out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1527225.msg15378992#msg15378992 Quote Wait? I think everyone in here is joking or being sarcastic. Didn't people read this news few years ago : Directory.io Prank Proves Bitcoin Protocol's Strength Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: matrix zion on June 04, 2017, 05:35:26 PM Ok I didn't understand anything...
But to say it in a short and not technical way: -The adresses he found are just very easy to crak like putting "admin" as a password? -The adresses you generate in wallets like Electrum aren't like this? Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: stompix on June 04, 2017, 05:45:26 PM Ok I didn't understand anything... But to say it in a short and not technical way: -The adresses he found are just very easy to crak like putting "admin" as a password? -The adresses you generate in wallets like Electrum aren't like this? Short answers yes / no they are not. Basically you can go to sleep and enjoy it because this is a non-issue, nothing to worry about it. Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: ImHash on June 05, 2017, 12:38:31 PM I didn't know about directory.io I just tried a few random 99 characters to generate addresses in bitaddress.org and after checking one address I saw that it has been used, I didn't try to troll. I did it on my own without any past knowledge about them. I'm not going any further with this and even if I find a full address I would never take anything from it.
Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: Baofeng on June 05, 2017, 01:54:49 PM I try your method. I go to bitaddress.org and type random number and generate an address. Eventually when I try to checked, its been unused. So I guess, your method doesn't work or I did it wrong. :D
Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: ImHash on June 06, 2017, 02:17:57 PM Is directory.io a joke or a real thing? I already found more than 40 used addresses and some of them are even active till recently, also why couldn't I find any private key starting with K? all I could manage to find were keys starting with 5 but never K I searched a few trillions of pages and eventually gave up but I was amazed by the length of the page numbers :D
904625697166532776746648320380374280100293470930272690489102837043110636675 I tried 5000000 page/3780000000000000/4649999999999999999999 and so on but never a key with K, is that directory outdated and doesn't have new keys or wasn't that supposedly contain all the possible keys? Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: BrewMaster on June 06, 2017, 02:40:03 PM ... why couldn't I find any private key starting with K? ... private key is just a number. you can see that number in uncompressed form which is starting with 5 (address in middle column) or see it in compressed form (addresses in right column) if you place your mouse over the private keys (starting with 5 on left column) you can see the numbers: 1, 2, ..... and as you click next page the code simply generates the private keys in base58 on the go based on those numbers: 100, 101, ... Quote ..I tried 5000000.. in other words you wasted your time. :) Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: LoyceV on June 06, 2017, 02:56:52 PM I didn't know about directory.io I just tried a few random 99 characters to generate addresses in bitaddress.org and after checking one address I saw that it has been used This only proves you are just as bad at generating random characters as someone else. In other words, what you call random isn't as random as you think it is.Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: farharhadi on June 06, 2017, 03:55:32 PM Collision is a problem that must be solved by finding the key then the problem is finished and will be resolved properly. If you can show 2 different private keys that both point to the same address.
Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: Kprawn on June 06, 2017, 04:50:48 PM Newbies should follow these basic steps to start their cold storage and avoid these vanity addresses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TmN4STr_ug
The possibility of finding collisions is very slim and basically impossible if you look at the math behind it. People can make claims like this, and when you ask for proof, they stop or make excuses. Watch the video above and decide for yourself. ;) Title: Re: I have found a few private keys by manual collision!!!!!!!!!! Post by: fan_of_things_and_stuff on June 08, 2017, 02:45:29 PM I need anyone owning these addresses to stop using them because I know their private keys, just stop using them, I will never steal a satoshi from them I'm just letting you know. Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Other addresses: Code: 1BgGZ9tcN4rm9KBzDn7KprQz87SZ26SAMH I will sign messages with every and each one of them if needed. Can you explain what you think a hash collision is? I have a feeling there might be a misunderstanding because (like the second or third poster said) the chances of finding any collision is insanely low, let alone a bunch of collisions. And "manual collision" is a term I'm unfamiliar with. Would love to understand what you claim to have found |