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Title: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: rbdrbd on May 04, 2013, 01:38:20 PM
I think BitBar is more novel than most of the other altcoins (and I'm not just saying that because I own some). Why?
* It has Proof of Stake, as well as proof of work
* It has a dynamically adjusting difficulty and reward calculation
* Uses scrypt - ASIC resistant
* It was not premined
* The 'bar' concept is analogous to gold bars and I think has a surprising amount of psychological pull on people
* The ultra rare status - a different approach to most all the altcoins...and rarer than "rare" coins like mincoin

I'd like to brainstorm around what we can do to speed BitBar adoption, along with people stepping up to the plate and volunteering to take on roles if they wish. We're already at the 1BTB to 1BTC level with trading, but bitbar circulation is still low. The main key to adoption will be spreading interest and getting fractions of bitbars in as many hands as possible.

The main, overarching goals in my mind are:
* Get network hashrate up to at least 250MH-400MH or so to show community health. Total hashrate may be around over this already, but it's hard to tell. Is there any stat anywhere that shows total network hashrate?
* Get bitbars into more people's hands (e.g. more giveaway threads, and contests)
* Get on an exchange like bter and/or vircurex

Here are some possibilities:
* Contests: Any ideas? I can throw a few bitbar at this as a sponsor if the idea is good.
* Evangelization efforts: btc-e trollbox, additional forum posts. There are some folks here that are pretty good at that. Maybe get fontas on retainer. :)
* Google docs exchange tweaks: Enhance the google docs exchange in use now to show trades history...this is important so that folks can see the health of the trading network (I have a decent template we could use for this at https://docs.google.com/a/u20.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7qeplQ-tDOdGZFcFVrZ0p2aFZCejlyV0NnM1A0X2c#gid=15)
* bitbar block explorer: do we have one? if not, we need one
* bitbar forum: Probably not too wise now, so we can keep most of the bitbar chatter in bitcointalk and not fork it off. At some point though in the future, it may be good. I believe that's where http://www.bitbar.info/ is headed to
* Bitbar stats page is a great start: http://www.bitbar.info/stats/index.php
* An additional giveaway thread may be useful
* ADDITIONAL POOL! Additional bitbar pushpools, once the one at http://btb.binarycoins.eu/ has been proven ...we need at least 2 so if one goes down, things dont just stop for folks that are not or cannot solomine.
   * sido adds total network hashrate to his pool at http://btb.binarycoins.eu/ -- will help get a better idea of the total network health


Any feedback on any of this? Any one want to take point on any of these items? Any thing I missed?


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: mg27341 on May 04, 2013, 01:40:36 PM
Where is the windows client for BTB?


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: Praxis on May 04, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
Where is the windows client for BTB?


http://www.bitbar.biz/downloads


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: mr_random on May 04, 2013, 01:46:49 PM
BitBar block explorer is coming soon. I have spoken with Dreamwatcher privately and he has confirmed :)


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: rbdrbd on May 04, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
BitBar block explorer is coming soon. I have spoken with Dreamwatcher privately and he has confirmed :)

Excellent news!


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: Passion_ltc on May 04, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
We need some P2Pools..


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: vlaoou321 on May 07, 2013, 06:50:47 AM
COOL


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: hdclover on May 07, 2013, 07:06:56 AM
+1


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: vlaoou321 on May 07, 2013, 07:09:35 AM
We need some P2Pools..
+1


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: RustyShackleford1950 on May 07, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
I honestly think that to gain some credibility alt crypto's like bitbar need to take it slow. Rushing to get BTB onto say, BTC-e, would be ultimately bad for the currency. I agree with all the points OP had, but I would like to see some restraint for once.

At least prove to the community that a new alt can be used to not simply sell for a quick buck. More giveaways would be perfect, and I completely agree about increasing circulation.

The better circulated an alt is BEFORE getting anywhere near exchanges, the better.

Also, I believe network hash rate is somewhere between 200-400MH/s. I've been told 400MH/s is most accurate (and it's growing quickly).


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: balu on May 07, 2013, 07:21:27 AM
I honestly think that to gain some credibility alt crypto's like bitbar need to take it slow. Rushing to get BTB onto say, BTC-e, would be ultimately bad for the currency. I agree with all the points OP had, but I would like to see some restraint for once.

At least prove to the community that a new alt can be used to not simply sell for a quick buck. More giveaways would be perfect, and I completely agree about increasing circulation.

The better circulated an alt is BEFORE getting anywhere near exchanges, the better.

Also, I believe network hash rate is somewhere between 200-400MH/s. I've been told 400MH/s is most accurate (and it's growing quickly).

Completely agree. Keep it slow, that helps the coin in the long term. However, it would be beneficial to have another pool or some p2pools. Solo mining is getting more and more difficult.


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: Sou on May 07, 2013, 07:23:00 AM
Network Hash Rate 566+

http://www.bitbar.info/stats/index.php


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: RustyShackleford1950 on May 07, 2013, 07:56:19 AM
Network Hash Rate 566+

http://www.bitbar.info/stats/index.php

*Estimated. I believe there may be some slight error with the calculations, but it's in the ballpark. Still, that's a huge hashrate for an alt that's relatively quiet around here.


Title: Re: Ideas for speeding bitbar (BTB) adoption
Post by: CvRChameleon on May 07, 2013, 08:24:22 AM
Quote from: rbdrbd
* Google docs exchange tweaks: Enhance the google docs exchange in use now to show trades history...this is important so that folks can see the health of the trading network (I have a decent template we could use for this at https://docs.google.com/a/u20.org/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7qeplQ-tDOdGZFcFVrZ0p2aFZCejlyV0NnM1A0X2c#gid=15)

I am helping Boelens on the current BTB google docs exchange, we do have a successful trades section, but Boelens created a seperate workbook for that.  I think I can adapt the existing one to reflect trades on the page itself.  Problem is that there were alot of trades that we unfortunately did not add as successful on the workbook, as it is sometimes unclear when people request remove, I guess we should ask for better explanation of completion.  ie. Remove because it was sold / bought, or done elsewhere...

So I am willing to change the document np, but I doubt it will really do much for improvement, there seems to be so much negativity about BTB atm.