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Title: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: Andre_Goldman on June 06, 2017, 07:05:07 PM Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566).
I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ... BTC is a huge computer ... 8) https://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/system-metrics (https://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/system-metrics) ::) Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: U2 on June 06, 2017, 07:17:30 PM Ok ya it's a huge supercomputer, we've all heard that before. But a huge supercomputer that can only solve SHA256 so... what's the real point other than being a currency?
Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: Andre_Goldman on June 06, 2017, 07:33:46 PM Ok ya it's a huge supercomputer, we've all heard that before. But a huge supercomputer that can only solve SHA256 so... what's the real point other than being a currency? we don't have mathematical proof for one-way-function quote from Bruce Schneider's book .. Quote if we are being strictly mathematical, we have no proof that one-way functions exist, nor any real evidence that they can be constructed230,530,600,661] [ and the funny part ;D Quote Even so, many functions look and smell one-way ... If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck .. SHA256 is indeed a good start point, since SHA1 RIP (killed by Google) Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: odolvlobo on June 06, 2017, 09:09:28 PM Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566). I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ... BTC is a huge computer ... 8) Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum. Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: iru786 on July 11, 2017, 03:20:55 PM Bitcoin was relatively dormant in 2015, but it is far from dead. The 21 Bitcoin Computer was released on November 16th 2015; with it comes a Raspberry Pi, a set of integrated Bitcoin payments tools, and a set of tutorials on how to use the Bitcoin Computer for undertaking various tasks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: BillyBobZorton on July 11, 2017, 04:56:50 PM Money is not a computer, this is why Ethereum will never work as money. Sure you could call the network some sort of super computer, but I dont see how that is an appropriate description, the only thing being calculated are the hashes, but Ethereum aims at being a "global computer" and that may be its downfall. Turing complete global computer... the opposite of sound money. It will never be a store of value or a currency or anything similar.
Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: audaciousbeing on July 11, 2017, 05:20:38 PM Money is not a computer, this is why Ethereum will never work as money. Sure you could call the network some sort of super computer, but I dont see how that is an appropriate description, the only thing being calculated are the hashes, but Ethereum aims at being a "global computer" and that may be its downfall. Turing complete global computer... the opposite of sound money. It will never be a store of value or a currency or anything similar. Thats actually the untapped potential of ETH and this is something I have read about it some time ago but what happen is that everybody just focus on the currency aspect which I have a feeling is not sustainable long term. On the part of bitcoin, to determine whether its a computer or not is to go back memory lane to the beginning to understand the purpose of bitcoin itself which I have yet to read anywhere that it represent a super computer. Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: ImHash on July 11, 2017, 05:52:41 PM What does this super computer do actually other than abiding by the bitcoin's code only without any other available function? can you render intense graphical frames with it?? bitcoin network is like a giant but with no hands and legs to walk and interact with the world, it just eats whatever we give this giant, not even ETH could be a super computer they are all just like a ticking clock without actually showing the time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: HabBear on July 11, 2017, 06:49:29 PM Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566). I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ... BTC is a huge computer ... 8) ::) YES! BUT, the BTC doesn't stand for Bitcoin, it stands for Blockchain. The Blockchain is the "supercomputer". Seriously. Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum. Ethereum provides templates of the Blockchain, for any person or organizaiton to levarge. Ethereum isn't the Blockchain, they're not the supercomputer, but they are making blockchain technology easier to access/use. They're selling supercomputers. Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: ImHash on July 11, 2017, 08:13:01 PM Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566). I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ... BTC is a huge computer ... 8) ::) YES! BUT, the BTC doesn't stand for Bitcoin, it stands for Blockchain. The Blockchain is the "supercomputer". Seriously. Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum. Ethereum provides templates of the Blockchain, for any person or organizaiton to levarge. Ethereum isn't the Blockchain, they're not the supercomputer, but they are making blockchain technology easier to access/use. They're selling supercomputers. Title: Re: Bitcoin as a Computer Post by: Andre_Goldman on July 11, 2017, 08:59:30 PM Inspired by a book "The Datacenter as a Computer: an Introduction to the Design of Warehouse-scale Machines Synthesis Lectures on Computer Architecture" (isbn 9781598295566). I wonder if you fellows see bitcoin ecosystem as ... BTC is a huge computer ... 8) ::) YES! BUT, the BTC doesn't stand for Bitcoin, it stands for Blockchain. The Blockchain is the "supercomputer". Seriously. Not Bitcoin. You are referring to Ethereum. Ethereum provides templates of the Blockchain, for any person or organizaiton to levarge. Ethereum isn't the Blockchain, they're not the supercomputer, but they are making blockchain technology easier to access/use. They're selling supercomputers. according ETH creators, ETH is a Turing completeness[1] while Bitcoin’s scripting system was deliberately made to be not Turing-complete to protect the network’s peers from malicious and buggy code that could end up in an infinity loop or something ... I was using the term computing in a broad sense[2] ... remember that this things bellow are (on the textbooks) considered computers too[3] ... http://f.tqn.com/y/fengshui/1/W/t/S/-/-/brandxpictures-g-abacus.jpg Abacus https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~lebelp/image63.jpeg Joseph Marie Jacquard, who in 1801 made the 1st programmable loom, the basis for modern data computation. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness [2] A computer is a device that can be instructed to carry out an arbitrary set of arithmetic or logical operations automatically [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_computing_hardware |
