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Title: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: hdclover on May 05, 2013, 01:24:45 PM
End of story.

Trade with confidence, Bitbar got bright future.


Current Market price for 1(one)Bitbar is "Above" 1(one)BTC.

You are lucky enough if you can find seller who is willing to sell less than 1 BTC per.


PS:The fact that in just a few days upon its release Bitbar is worth more than BTC, can't you people wonder/imagine whats the market price will be in the next few weeks/ month ??? Think s-m-a-r-t.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: anderl on May 05, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
End of story.

Trade with confidence, Bitbar got bright future.


Current Market price for 1(one)Bitbar is "Above" 1(one)BTC.

You are lucky enough if you can find seller who is willing to sell less than 1 BTC per.


PS:The fact that in just a few days upon its release Bitbar is worth more than BTC, can't you people wonder/imagine whats the market price will be in the next few weeks/ month ??? Think s-m-a-r-t.


FIFY


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: hdclover on May 05, 2013, 01:27:39 PM
End of story.

Trade with confidence, Bitbar got bright future.


Current Market price for 1(one)Bitbar is "Above" 1(one)BTC.

You are lucky enough if you can find seller who is willing to sell less than 1 BTC per.


PS:The fact that in just a few days upon its release Bitbar is worth more than BTC, can't you people wonder/imagine whats the market price will be in the next few weeks/ month ??? Think s-m-a-r-t.


FIFY

Cheers Mate :)


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: blastbob on May 05, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
I am selling ~25BTB at 2 BTC each. Else i am keeping them!


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Invest0r on May 05, 2013, 01:44:40 PM
Selling 5BTB @ 10btc each. Else keeping my expensive bitbars :)


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: infazan on May 05, 2013, 01:50:44 PM
where is exchange BITBAR ?


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Passion_ltc on May 05, 2013, 01:51:41 PM
where is exchange BITBAR ?
Will come soon.

http://www.reddit.com/r/bitbar/comments/1dmino/bitbar_exchange_is_in_the_works/


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: achillez on May 05, 2013, 08:53:40 PM
i'll buy 100 bitbar for 0.1btc


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: skull88 on May 05, 2013, 09:02:08 PM
And where do you spend your Bitbars, where is the actual economy that is backing these Bitbars, where can I donate them,...?
right...

And they where premining in front of your nose when they got released  :D


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: farlack on May 05, 2013, 09:04:14 PM
 Lol people are dumb, seriously worth more than bitcoin? 99% of whats available was mined in 10 minutes..


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: MoneyCoin on May 05, 2013, 09:07:29 PM
BTB I can see trading at 10 BTC each, consolidation, nice... Go BitBar!


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: skull88 on May 05, 2013, 09:12:29 PM
BTB I can see trading at 10 BTC each, consolidation, nice... Go BitBar!
Quote
Date Registered:    Today at 02:00:37 AM

Aaaah I see the new accounts praising the new alt coin are already arrived  :D


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: davidpbrown on May 05, 2013, 09:12:43 PM
Is bitbar not just a gimmick, playing on the idea of a gold-bar rather than a gold-coin?

Saying shit doesn't make it true.

ps. Each character in this message is worth 1BTC. If you value it, send BTCs to me and you can keep the message for yourself!: 1CBxm54Ah5hiYxiUtD7JGYRXykT5Z6ZuMc


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: reb0rn21 on May 05, 2013, 09:14:07 PM
ppl hating are those which are late in mining so they want it to fail, as next brick/coin hit the they be first and then they will hype :)

btw i am also late have just 500k/s and no solo mining success


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: skull88 on May 05, 2013, 09:24:05 PM
ppl hating are those which are late in mining so they want it to fail, as next brick/coin hit the they be first and then they will hype :)

btw i am also late have just 500k/s and no solo mining success
Weird, I tell the same with every crapcoin released, even post it right after the announcement when I could still mine the shit out of them. 


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: ymer on May 05, 2013, 09:30:30 PM
Quote
Official announcement on this board:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193519.0 Time: 05:30:04 PM

Announcement: 17:30:04
First Block mined: 17:32:10 (Difficulty 0.00) (Reward 1 Bitbar per block)
First Hundred blocks: 17:33:24
First 200 blocks: 17:36:16
First 300 blocks: 17:39:42
First Thousand blocks: 18:01:22
First 2000 blocks: 18:40:45 (Difficulty 0.012) (Reward 0.528202 per block)
.
.
.
.
Current Block 6000 (Difficulty 15.291) (Reward 0.164687 per block)

So from the time that it was announced to the time someone has time to read the announcement, download the client and configure the .config you need at least 15 minutes, by that time 500 Bitbar were already in the hands of the creator and the people that was aware before the announcement.

Now take into account that the reward is rapidly decreasing, the "conveniently ready miners" are hoarding a huge ammount of bitbars which were easily mined right after the announcement:

Here's one of said wallets:

http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/address/BCJ49q7DHd4sCzwiQ1FDmTx7saxV7fDqX8

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196160.0


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Sou on May 05, 2013, 09:38:50 PM
Although i've only been on the cryptocurrency scene for a couple months i don't believe i've ever seen a coin (or bar) build such a disdain towards it so quickly; the only emotional response equal to the immediate hate seems to be the hyperadvocacy of its adopters. Regardless of the position chosen, any argument is just bringing more awareness to the coin - i'm curious to see where all this momentum will lead.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: davidpbrown on May 05, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
It could become something.. but there's an offer of 2.5 BTB for 2 BTC atm.. after what a day..

I think the absurdity has turned through several levels of irony.

I'll give you 3 Cuils for 1 bitbar right now..


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: relm9 on May 05, 2013, 09:43:26 PM
Although i've only been on the cryptocurrency scene for a couple months i don't believe i've ever seen a coin (or bar) build such a disdain towards it so quickly; the only emotional response equal to the immediate hate seems to be the hyperadvocacy of its adopters. Regardless of the position chosen, any argument is just bringing more awareness to the coin - i'm curious to see where all this momentum will lead.

I have to agree. Never seen an ALT launch stir up so much debate. Will be interesting to see where it goes a month from now.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: 00400 on May 05, 2013, 09:46:38 PM
This is just stupid. Ok, it's not premined. But why couldn't there be announcement at least 24 hours before? Why not make it damn hard to mine in the begining? Why split such a big share of all bars among few people?

The only good thing about bitbar is that it really shows how fishy is the value of all cryptocoins. It's up to everyone to get that (or not).


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: skull88 on May 05, 2013, 09:48:35 PM
People have really short memory here, never seen a coin with so much debate?
There was more debate about Feathercoin 2 weeks ago which sold at 0,1 btc when it hit btc-e and is now 0,0031  :D

Not to talk about SolidCoin, who can ever forget those  ;D


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: relm9 on May 05, 2013, 09:50:44 PM
People have really short memory here, never seen a coin with so much debate?
There was more debate about Feathercoin 2 weeks ago which sold at 0,1 btc when it hit btc-e and is now 0,0031  :D

Not to talk about SolidCoin, who can ever forget those  ;D



Well, I wasn't around here for SolidCoin. Seeing way more controversy with BitBar than Feathercoin (or CHN), though...


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: davidpbrown on May 05, 2013, 09:51:27 PM
Not to talk about SolidCoin, who can ever forget those  ;D

realsolid at http://www.mcxnow.com is looking to bring back SC! .. some people are forever the optimists.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Sou on May 05, 2013, 10:12:24 PM
It's arguable that every last one of these coins (yes, even Bitcoin) holds monetary incentive for the person(s) behind the coins development. The bigger cryptocurrency picture at large comes with a whole host of implications that could very well shift some of the social and economical foundations of the world as a whole, but when it comes down to the day to day most people are expecting to be compensated for their time spent. You can have to nobelest vision of making a positive contribution to the collective, but to say you expect to leave at the end of the day having not benefited is simply not true. I guess the real question is exactly how much is fair.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: crymo on May 05, 2013, 10:27:14 PM
this coin is very succesfull scam :D

99% mined after few moments of release hahah

it onlz takes  1 post on reddit (from new user) http://www.reddit.com/r/bitbar/comments/1dmino/bitbar_exchange_is_in_the_works/
so people think that exchenge will be out so they are willing to pay their hard earned bitcoins...


well played


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Barnacle_Ed on May 05, 2013, 10:35:44 PM
From another thread:


Official announcement on this board:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193519.0 Time: 05:30:04 PM

Announcement: 17:30:04
First Block mined: 17:32:10 (Difficulty 0.00) (Reward 1 Bitbar per block)
First Hundred blocks: 17:33:24
First 200 blocks: 17:36:16
First 300 blocks: 17:39:42
First Thousand blocks: 18:01:22
First 2000 blocks: 18:40:45 (Difficulty 0.012) (Reward 0.528202 per block)
.
.
.
.
Current Block 6000 (Difficulty 15.291) (Reward 0.164687 per block)

So from the time that it was announced to the time someone has time to read the announcement, download the client and configure the .config you need at least 15 minutes, by that time 500 Bitbar were already in the hands of the creator and the people that was aware before the announcement.

Now take into account that the reward is rapidly decreasing, the "conveniently ready miners" are hoarding a huge ammount of bitbars which were easily mined right after the announcement:

Here's one of said wallets:

http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/address/BCJ49q7DHd4sCzwiQ1FDmTx7saxV7fDqX8



So it might not have been "premined", but it was sure as hell "tailored to REALLY benefit extremely-early adopters". That still reeks of a scam to me.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: bitterdog on May 05, 2013, 10:39:28 PM
Instamined


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: GSnak on May 05, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Although i've only been on the cryptocurrency scene for a couple months i don't believe i've ever seen a coin (or bar) build such a disdain towards it so quickly; the only emotional response equal to the immediate hate seems to be the hyperadvocacy of its adopters. Regardless of the position chosen, any argument is just bringing more awareness to the coin - i'm curious to see where all this momentum will lead.

Anytime people are getting more for a five minute old coin than one BTC people are going to lay an egg. The release was flawed, it wasn't premined but releasing the coin with zero difficulty was stupid after everyone saw what happened with FTC. Deliberately stupid? I don't know, probably. But that didn't stop any other junkcoin (no offense to Junkcoin) from making money.

Looking at the blockchain most of the early miner wallets have been divested, to whom who knows but regardless of who has them you're never going to see the market flooded with thousands of BTB. I guess we'll find out whether that matters or not.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Littleshop on May 05, 2013, 10:59:08 PM
Instamined
+1


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: farlack on May 06, 2013, 04:25:32 AM
ppl hating are those which are late in mining so they want it to fail, as next brick/coin hit the they be first and then they will hype :)

btw i am also late have just 500k/s and no solo mining success

There was no late mining, 99% were mined before you can cook a hamburger. That's hardly late, more like a team of people to mine asap.

Anyone notice that there are 2500 are mined and like 10 have been traded...


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: Praxis on May 06, 2013, 04:27:24 AM
This seems legit: the " ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★ " definitely adds to the credibility.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: MoneyCoin on May 06, 2013, 04:37:28 AM
100 BTC per 1 BTB sounds good to me :)


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: MaGNeT on May 07, 2013, 06:15:32 AM
Any coin that isn't announced at least 24 hours before launch, is pre-mined in my consideration.

The funder conveniently had his miners ready while others had to download client, setup miners, etc.
And what about the 24 timezones? When I woke up and read the forum, the chain was up for 6.5 hours already.

But I'm not angry, I just won't touch Bitbar.


Title: Re: ★★ ▀▄▀▄▀ BITBAR is not pre-mined !!! ▀▄▀▄▀ ★★
Post by: hdclover on May 07, 2013, 07:08:16 AM
Any coin that isn't announced at least 24 hours before launch, is pre-mined in my consideration.

The funder conveniently had his miners ready while others had to download client, setup miners, etc.
And what about the 24 timezones? When I woke up and read the forum, the chain was up for 6.5 hours already.

But I'm not angry, I just won't touch Bitbar.

Satoshi nakamoto has never announced Bitcoin project to public 24 hours before he launched it. :)