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Title: [2017-06-09] Ray Kurzweil on bitcoin: 'I wouldn't put my money into it'
Post by: White sugar on June 10, 2017, 01:22:51 PM
On Friday, futurist Ray Kurzweil spoke at the Exponential Finance Summit, a New York City technology conference put on by Singularity University, a Silicon Valley think tank.

Kurzweil, an author and inventor, is often called the “father of the singularity,” in reference to his own concept of the time when artificial intelligence will surpass human beings. He’s also written and lectured on transhumanism, nanotechnology, computer avatars, and how technology has changed and will change the global economy.

So Yahoo Finance asked him for his thoughts on bitcoin, the cryptocurrency that is soaring in value right now, up 200% in 2017 to nearly $3,000 per coin.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ray-kurzweil-bitcoin-wouldnt-put-money-182013910.html


Title: Re: [2017-06-09] Ray Kurzweil on bitcoin: 'I wouldn't put my money into it'
Post by: d5000 on June 10, 2017, 03:00:44 PM
Interesting. One of Kurzweil's books was one of my most interesting reads when I was a teenie. Now I think he's wrong with his singularity theory. In his books from the 80s and 90s he has predicted much smarter tech for the 2010s than we really have ... (no, smartphones aren't really smart, they're just the Palm successor)

So his criticism to Bitcoin is that it is volatile. Well, here I agree somewhat with him. But I think that is not a problem without solution. A decentralized "backing" mechanism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926913) could be one of the parts of the puzzle that leads to more stability.



Title: Re: [2017-06-09] Ray Kurzweil on bitcoin: 'I wouldn't put my money into it'
Post by: Qartada on June 10, 2017, 03:25:04 PM
Interesting. One of Kurzweil's books was one of my most interesting reads when I was a teenie. Now I think he's wrong with his singularity theory. In his books from the 80s and 90s he has predicted much smarter tech for the 2010s than we really have ... (no, smartphones aren't really smart, they're just the Palm successor)

So his criticism to Bitcoin is that it is volatile. Well, here I agree somewhat with him. But I think that is not a problem without solution. A decentralized "backing" mechanism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926913) could be one of the parts of the puzzle that leads to more stability.


There are some ways of finding intrinsic value in coins.  I was quite interested by Byteball's idea of having 1 byte of data transferred on the DAG cost 1 byte in transaction fees.  That means that the price of Byteball would theoretically stay the same as what people believe the utility of moving 1 byte of data is worth.  Obviously in a speculative market this doesn't happen, but it's definitely an interesting example of an attempt to peg down cryptocurrency prices in a decentralised way.

What Yahoo's news site got wrong is making sure to talk about how Bitcoin's price has always gone up in the long term.  This is somewhat true, but with all speculative assets and stocks there are bear markets.  Bitcoin's last bear market was from the Mt. Gox crash to partway through 2015.

People only tolerate watching their money get worth less and less if it's gradually over a long time, like with (most) current fiat currencies.  It's not so nice for them if they can't financially handle a drop of more than half over a certain period of time, which let's be honest is most people.

I think stability just comes from more support.  Bitcoin volatility is a self-fulfilling prophecy for as long as people think the price could drop very low at any time.  After a long time, the volatility will begin to fall if people have started feeling comfortable holding their money in it long-term.


Title: Re: [2017-06-09] Ray Kurzweil on bitcoin: 'I wouldn't put my money into it'
Post by: Netnox on June 10, 2017, 06:52:18 PM
I respect his personal opinion about the future of the crypto-currency. At least he didn't badmouthed Bitcoin by calling it a drug dealer's currency, as someone else did a few days back. He may be having his own reasons and theories to distrust Bitcoin. But then, Ray Kurzweil is more known as an author, than as an investor.


Title: Re: [2017-06-09] Ray Kurzweil on bitcoin: 'I wouldn't put my money into it'
Post by: bitdominion on June 11, 2017, 05:22:21 AM
Can't say I trust Ray Kurtzweil's intuition. Last time I did it ate up $2k investing in his sinkhole: Naturalnano
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20061214005246/en/Nobel-Prize-Winner-Sir-Harold-W.-Kroto

His commentary on bitcoin is welcome for obvious reasons. Agreed, he is better off trusted to extreme penmanship.


I respect his personal opinion about the future of the crypto-currency. At least he didn't badmouthed Bitcoin by calling it a drug dealer's currency, as someone else did a few days back. He may be having his own reasons and theories to distrust Bitcoin. But then, Ray Kurzweil is more known as an author, than as an investor.