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BTC has been stuck in impasse hell for over two years because Adam Back and G. Maxwell want to monopolize transaction processing on their Lightning.  Although Bitcoin seems 'decentralized', Blockstream/Core has complete control over the impasse and only they can break it.  They won't.  

On the other hand, ETH is like a heavy loaded freight train going straight down the tracks toward an awesome goal.  Many, many, many companies are now building onto that platform as the future.  That platform is far more dynamic and far more powerful.  It offers many opportunities that don't even exist with Bitcoin.  Many of these features are actively being deployed now, not just a bunch of talk like the people at Bitcoin.  Ethereum is highly organized and orderly.  Even in major crises, they get it sorted and move on in a short time.  

ETH will pass Bitcoin in about 2 more months.  

It's not too late.  Time to switch or get left behind.  

What a name Ethereum, looks like a online videogame's coin
I'm not worried, Bitcoin will solve his problems and when people will start converting all their money to crypto will trust on Bitcoin no on altcoins.

Very nice attempt to pump a coin which, I m sure you ve got a lot.

Yes, I agree, ETH s growing strong and I would support what you say apart from 2 important reasons.

First, UNLIMITED number of coins. Huh, that one is a problem. Scarcity s something which is very important in the investment world. Gold s pricey cause it s hard to get and it is NOT unlimited. The same is with diamonds, the same is with BTC. Unlimited is something I do not like to see when dealing with crypto.

Second, a few large holders including Vitalik having millions of ETH. Some of them re know of dumping large amounts when they feel like dumping.

All in all, I d suggest differentiating your portfolio and not forgetting to include ETH. However saying BTC s a mess and should be left out ON A DAY IT SURPASSED $3000 per coin????? Nah, that s not how I d classify things in crypto.

In my opinion Bitcoin is not a mess, bitcoin has proved to be something valuable as stated by it founding father, " Bitcoin either became something valuable or nothing" and currently Bitcoin has proved to be something valuable. Ethereum is doing very well and I think is a great option for diversification.

Not because Eth is doing very good right now it doesn't mean it's not gonna go through some problems in the future. Who knows? It might even have worse problems.

It's just that Eth is currently alot younger than BTC.

I will watch this thread until ethereum got dumped then see how this people will run a way from and again come to original form . Its just the time asking to make this type of comment take your profit now only . Do you tell exactly how much ethereum will be supplied

I invest in both BTC and ETH. I trust BTC more than i trust ETH.

Do not compare something that cannot be compared! We can talk hours about ETH but before this:
ETH is centralized token with endless supply and soon its going to be POS..Maybe there is still good chances to grow in price, but this has nothing to do with BTC, which has his own path, and it is created to deliver us to decentralization. ???
By this analogy we still have PayPal and it is good!

Why hasn't anyone mentioned the elephant in the room? Ethereum's scaling problem. With all of the Dapps running on Eth were gonna have huge issues when transactions begin to be delayed. How will the gambling sites work that require high speed transactions? Eth needs to go DPOS to resolve this but they never will. Simple POS with 15tps just doesn't cut it these days.

Freight trains also crash all the harder cause of the weight at which they move.

Anyway I don't disagree but you know what comes up must come down, Ethereum needs a stable period without too much volatility before its really ready to take over from bitcoin.

I buy ETH only for ICOs, I think it's the same for many other people.

The freight train analogy is a poor one. At least from the point of view of functionality. You're comparing a relatively fast moving item to a decentralized public chain that runs hundreds (if not thousands) of times slower than a cell phone or the 8080 processor.

Obviously such a slow system cannot run multiple smart contracts for thousands of DAPPs as people without computer knowledge have been convinced. Ethereum the platform is definitely interesting and will likely be used in developing private blockchains for international businesses. Not sure why folks think that has anything to do with the token called ETH.

The public token will never be capable of both running thousands of DAPPs and function as a currency. Modifying your imagery based on current price to a runaway freight train does seem more realistic.

BTC will always be the first major crypto, and it has been around for 9 years now. Ethereum, on the other hand, only came to market a few days ago.

It does not matter how efficient a coin and it's technology is, it cannot support over  hundred million users.  It is impossible to have only one coin. There is space for a few

If we're thinking about making this a usable currency, I disagree. It scares me that there will only be a fixed amount of Bitcoins for the rest of eternity.
Think about how many coins were lost in the beginning of Bitcoin. Miners had thousands of coins and just threw their computers in the trash because nobody thought Bitcoin would become valuable.

Coins are lost in cyberspace all the time, every day. Even I have abandoned coins on wallets and markets where I can't even remember my password or username. Who knows how much I have there.
As time goes by, more and more coins are forever lost by stupid people.  ;D
Maybe one day we don't even have enough coins in circulation for BTC to be a usable currency.

Still, I'd say it's better than ETH. ETH is not a currency at all, that's why I don't really invest in it or believe in it. It's not a currency for the people, it's something else. I'm interested in something that will be used by everyone in the world.

Exactly why there is hype around EOS & current graphene DPOS based chains.  Everyone here just regurgitates information without performing any due diligence.

At the same time, ETH passing BTC in price will bring increased attention to other chains which is good for the whole industry.  Let it rise, stall the network like btc, and another will take its place.

Hmmm, how do you say bitcoin is a mess while ethereym is a freight train by knowing the market driver is bitcoin even though market capitalizations are very close to each other. Just take bitcoin serious.

Bitcoin is the mainstream market driver however how can you take bitcoin seriously when you view this chart?  https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-count?timespan=60days

It does get mentioned. The problem is that most people are not computer literate and the marketing strategy has successfully convince people that the public chain is some type of supercomputer. Unfortunately, when ETH fails to deliver and crashes it's going to be damaging to cryptocurrency in general.

Ridicoulous statement. ETH will be have bigger market cap in a few days. Bitcoin would be a the better coin if Core-team would not try to destroy it.

Even if this happened and the price of ethereum exceeded the price of bitcoin, that would not affect its gradual growth as a universal currency in full expansion and global acceptance. We have seen that same in fiat coins, for although currencies such as the British pound or the euro are more valuable than the US Dollar, they have never been able to displace it as preferential currency in international transactions and global currency, despite the eventual crises in the American economy.

So I have no doubt that despite the emergency of new and more "attractive" ans "innovative" altcoins in the market, bitcoin will forever be "The digital Currency" par excellence, and reference of all others.

About two more months? I don't think so in the past two months bitcoin has improved a lot in terms of it's price,yes I also believe will get massive adoption from traders investors and companies but Bitcoin will stay on as the leading crypto currency in the market but I think it's about time Bitcoin developers should do something about the transaction fee.

Just in case now is so called "Ice Age" of Ethereum when difficulty bomb make Ether mining very difficult.

It means now Ethereum is very LIMITED in supply.

Many miners are realising it and right now looking for another coins to mine. Thats why also ETH goes to PoS soon...I think it 1% in Metropolis upgrade and every year more and more % of network will switch to PoS due to difficulty bomb.

I am gambling that ETH is going to be $1000 this year

This is just a cheap speculation and, will it be true, depends only if whales continuous with their support, if they do not discover something better. If they withdraw their walls what will happen? Ok but this still do not proves that BTC is a mess, and wont be 10k till the end of this year. Stratis is much better than ETH, and has no weaknesses as mentioned one.

Discussions and arguments like this have happened several times in the past and its always against pro and anti-bitcoin and this issues have remain unabated however,  the simple fact is the reason we are all seeing all those faults of bitcoin is because of the growth of bitcoin that has given room for those lapses which was not there several years ago and the same could happen or even worse for the acclaimed ETH when its adoption can get to what bitcoin is today.