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Title: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: channingwilmer on June 12, 2017, 06:53:25 AM
I have just noticed that there are too many ICO around and most of the projects are similar to each other. As you can see, we both have monaco ICO and token card ICO. DO you think that it is worth to invest in ICO? I have a strong feeling that there are many people abusing the ICO in order to build a new kind of MLM scheme. People will lose their money once the coin get on some exchange.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: niisarearning on June 12, 2017, 12:52:03 PM
I have just noticed that there are too many ICO around and most of the projects are similar to each other. As you can see, we both have monaco ICO and token card ICO. DO you think that it is worth to invest in ICO? I have a strong feeling that there are many people abusing the ICO in order to build a new kind of MLM scheme. People will lose their money once the coin get on some exchange.
Recently i participated in one campaign and i was closely watching that ICO move. Soon in main ANN thread there was lots of scam accusation happened that guy could not able to solve finally he dint do the ICO .


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: malexls on June 12, 2017, 01:27:54 PM
It's not that easy to raise so much funds for a startup in real life

We already know from where the eth dump will be coming from.. Let's say 2 or 3 huge ICO-scam, media attention (see 2008, mtgox, ... they love this kind of affair), price drops.

Just care, this big ico scam that might provoke the Eth dump is among them.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: webvn2k on June 12, 2017, 01:53:59 PM
yes , because BTC's price up ,and up ,  too many ico, and too many scam .


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: kelseydustin on June 12, 2017, 02:24:04 PM
yeah buddy. I do agree with what you are saying here. I do not like ICOs because people are just throwing their money at a project without thinking and moreover, there are too may others are using this type of activity to steal people's property


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: Red-Apple on June 12, 2017, 02:51:24 PM
it is the new age of altcoins, before it was pre mined altcoins then it gave way to heavily pre mined altcoins. but after a while people simply stopped even buying any altcoin that had a premine. they took money before doing anything by premining.

then they caught up and started new age, ICOs. now they take the money before doing anything by running an ICO!
in a short time people will catch up and then they will move on to a new method of scamming.

meanwhile if you know this fact you either stay away or have a gambling attitude and try to test your luck.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: BaumT on June 12, 2017, 03:12:48 PM
I think you should make a thorough research of the ICO before you consider investing in it, to avoid all the scams since now there are too many scams out there


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: LodisMcguire on June 12, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
Well you know the bitcoin price is skyrocketing
If you didn't trust this many ICO,you have to just participate in the bounty not to invest
Just search their background and news if you want to invest in some of the ICO


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on June 12, 2017, 03:52:11 PM
I don't gives statement that many Ico are mean new way to scam investors, i just take it as positive of growing digital coins,
because there are good ICOs out there that has fungtion and really be builded by developers,
even the ICOs be scam coins in the ending that is just part of risk investing in ICOs
the solution for this problem should the investors learn more about the ICOs before invest in it.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: gedor on June 12, 2017, 04:30:08 PM
We don't know what creators think about their businesses. Maybe they think if it will be unsuccessful, no worry dump your token, take profit and go away.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: izanagi narukami on June 12, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
Altcoin creator may take advantage since bitcoin getting pump recently so people must be more careful for what they want to invest especially altcoin. As I know altcoin are more riskier than bitcoin market but altcoin potential are unpredictable and can be better than bitcoin


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: Robertqueen2 on June 12, 2017, 04:40:03 PM
I don't gives statement that many Ico are mean new way to scam investors, i just take it as positive of growing digital coins,
because there are good ICOs out there that has fungtion and really be builded by developers,
even the ICOs be scam coins in the ending that is just part of risk investing in ICOs
the solution for this problem should the investors learn more about the ICOs before invest in it.
You made a good point here, there are some interesting project that worth to invest in, these projects have real use cases and aim to replace the traditional companies in some important sectors.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: doedz on June 12, 2017, 04:59:30 PM
There are many ICOs that produce this crypto growth well, we just need to be more careful about choosing ICO to get involved in investing.
There are several things that should be examined, among others:
Number of supply coins, who coin advisor, what is the purpose of the coin?
Anyone does not want to get into fraudulent investment.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: Rodeo02 on June 12, 2017, 05:23:27 PM
People believing in ICO because they know they can earn  profit investing in it after its added in exchange. Some times they will have  morethan x10 profit after investing  so not bad at all .  we all know that every investment have a risk so it's your own decisions  if you want to invest your money just always remember invest only what you can afford to loose.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: Haladay on June 12, 2017, 05:34:01 PM
There is a booming platform for ICO things. But it's hard to understand which one is real, or bubble, or scam. This is a huge problem since lots of scam one raised over millions.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: Jeger.Kiting on June 12, 2017, 05:48:30 PM
We don't know what creators think about their businesses. Maybe they think if it will be unsuccessful, no worry dump your token, take profit and go away.


If ICO is a fraud and we have joined in it what we should take it and leave it, whereas it's all obviously a fraud, I do not quite understand with your intent to make a post like this, can you explain about your post here.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: innergy on June 12, 2017, 06:35:12 PM
Yea.. most of them are just selling nothing. Just promises and bright future..
I would accept them only if they bring something on the table before the crowdsales..


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: jane418 on June 13, 2017, 02:06:22 PM
I have just noticed that there are too many ICO around and most of the projects are similar to each other. As you can see, we both have monaco ICO and token card ICO. DO you think that it is worth to invest in ICO? I have a strong feeling that there are many people abusing the ICO in order to build a new kind of MLM scheme. People will lose their money once the coin get on some exchange.

Your signature and avatar indicate that you are involved in an ICO :)


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: bitcointarget on June 13, 2017, 02:48:02 PM
People believing in ICO because they know they can earn  profit investing in it after its added in exchange. Some times they will have  morethan x10 profit after investing  so not bad at all .  we all know that every investment have a risk so it's your own decisions  if you want to invest your money just always remember invest only what you can afford to loose.

Yeah but that's the problem. People do not believe in a Project, itself. They only believe in the possibility to make x10 in the Exchange. That will bring numerous of problems in following months. Note that, there will be lots of disappointments about hyped ICOs.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: shenjing85 on June 13, 2017, 02:51:42 PM
I have just noticed that there are too many ICO around and most of the projects are similar to each other. As you can see, we both have monaco ICO and token card ICO. DO you think that it is worth to invest in ICO? I have a strong feeling that there are many people abusing the ICO in order to build a new kind of MLM scheme. People will lose their money once the coin get on some exchange.

I have the same concern with the recent ICO projects. Some of them are not so promising but sold out in a short time. It seem that a lot of people are coming into this market without enough investigation. It is crazy!


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: olubams on June 13, 2017, 03:01:22 PM
I have just noticed that there are too many ICO around and most of the projects are similar to each other. As you can see, we both have monaco ICO and token card ICO. DO you think that it is worth to invest in ICO? I have a strong feeling that there are many people abusing the ICO in order to build a new kind of MLM scheme. People will lose their money once the coin get on some exchange.
Every new ICOs will come out as the next best thing to happen to the crypto-world but in all they are just another repetition of what has happened in the past. However, that is not to say some are breaking the norm of just created a coin at least there is one, sun contract which is all about exploiting solar energy, if the developers are serious then that one gets my attention. The bone of contention is for one to do adequate analysis of what he wants to out money into.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: igormuba on June 13, 2017, 03:11:59 PM
Sadly there are indeed ICO scams, I am very worried, I have a very interesting project that was born in a hackaton and we have chosen an ICO as a crowdfunding method (and kind of a very fun way of raising money) but I am afraid that the scammers make ICOs lose reputation, such a shame...


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: NetFreak199 on June 13, 2017, 03:14:18 PM
If you worried to loose your money then do no't invest in any ICO. many people investing in ICO just for profit porpuses and they know the risk before entering in any investment.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: creepyjas on June 13, 2017, 03:33:20 PM
It is too hard nowadays to know if an ICO is legit or is just pure scam. These scam ICOs usually use legit means (legit website, legit anns and such) and then poof, the money you invested in the ICO is gone.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: ranreichman on June 13, 2017, 03:43:29 PM
Hey all,
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this but the thread sounds relevant. If not, sorry in advance.

I’m Ran, the CEO of Snip. We’re a decentralized, user-generated news platform and are planning a crowdsale in September.  I've been following the conversations here in BitcoinTalk and would love to receive the community's thoughts on Snip. Our vision:

News is broken. A small group of corporations decide which information is worthy of print, promoting clickbait and biased articles, and people who create great content are rarely rewarded for their hard efforts. No wonder that trust in the media is at an all-time low.
Snip is a new type of news platform, decentralized and powered by the community. On Snip, anyone can write a news story about a topic of their choice and read news on the issues they care about. Contributors are rewarded with tokens according to the popularity of their posts and comments. A community-based news site, owned by the community, can become the top news site in the world and cover any subject - breaking news, finance, tech, entertainment, etc.
The content on the platform will be personalized for each user using an open-source newsfeed algorithm, and users will also be able to chose their own algorithm. Since people prefer reading short and concise stories, the default algorithm will incentivize short content.
At Snip we strongly believe that there shouldn’t be a single arbiter of the truth, meaning content will not be censored and will be stored in a decentralized manner. Users will choose their own trusted content filters, allowing them to ignore specific words or sources of content, but any legal content will be allowed to stay on the platform.

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Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: carriebee on June 13, 2017, 03:49:29 PM
This is true too many ICO that are new and able to scam only. Though it is hard to raise or collect the funds but the reality is some are scam and just want to collect money from investors. So invest in ICO on what you can afford only.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: Renji Abarai on June 13, 2017, 04:00:01 PM
It is too hard nowadays to know if an ICO is legit or is just pure scam. These scam ICOs usually use legit means (legit website, legit anns and such) and then poof, the money you invested in the ICO is gone.

We will know after the ICO if the project materializes and  the business plan are really gaining income for its token share holders. There are many projects are being on ICO right now,mostly are on  Eth contract. They have a good road map and team. We are hoping that all this will be profitable in the making.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: bearex on June 13, 2017, 04:44:04 PM
Might be. Some ICOs are more promising than others, that is for sure. There also exist scammy ICOs, but i think they don't even gather as much interest as the real ones. You can quickly determine that for yourself if you check the thread on Bitcointalk for example, how many pages are there, how is the OP made, the website of the coin, people commenting etc.

But there are many ICOs out there because people have new ideas on this new platform - blockchain, and they try to implement it!


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: wnfmzm74 on June 13, 2017, 04:53:19 PM
I think hold the ETH and refuse those ICO should have a better profit
too much project ,I don't know choose which
just refuse maybe the current choose.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: OliynyK on June 13, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
If you worried to loose your money then do no't invest in any ICO. many people investing in ICO just for profit porpuses and they know the risk before entering in any investment.
That is not a fair solution,we as a community has to identify the scammers and bring them out before running away with the money,we have more people who have the technical knowledge to understand whether a certain ICO is a scam or not,everyone wants their money's worth and no one wants to send their coins to a scammer.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: rumex on June 13, 2017, 06:16:36 PM
There are bound to be scams among them all. That is why most of us concentrate on Bounties and giveaways. People have to be careful in other not to be swindle of their hard earned money.


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: CjMapope on June 13, 2017, 06:19:51 PM
OP you are 100% right, and im happy as a "newer" member you realize this, i hope EVERYONE does.

Startups are legit, but projects like LBRY show us they DONT NEED too take millions of our money to do this stuff.
I implore you all to read back one of the forums oldest ICO haters, Spotenik's posts, this guy has been screaming how all ICOs are scams for YEARS, and he's kinda right. 
Sure, you can make money, but is that how you want to make your fortune? piggybacking off scams to flip a few dollars?
Start mining, trading, freelancing, ICOs are the new NIgerian Prince scams, turning your coins into digital gold, if ONLY YOU SEND FIRST :D


Title: Re: Too many ICO - new scam scheme?
Post by: vlom on June 13, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
read this:
A New Way To Raise Money: The Initial Coin Offering.
https://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/?toURL=https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanchester/2017/06/12/a-new-way-to-raise-money-the-initial-coin-offering/2/&refURL=https://t.co/gI5vpoApvI&referrer=https://t.co/gI5vpoApvI#1c1f709f396c

or this:
I was wrong about Ethereum
https://medium.com/@WhalePanda/i-was-wrong-about-ethereum-804c9a906d36