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Economy => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: kryptqnick on June 13, 2017, 08:37:39 PM



Title: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: kryptqnick on June 13, 2017, 08:37:39 PM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: mrcash02 on June 13, 2017, 08:57:46 PM
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?

I don't gamble with Alt-Coins, so it's not interesting for me.

There are Crypto-Games accepting Alt-Coins with exchange in site to convert coins fast, JustDice CLAM Dice, Burst Casino, that is the casinos I know accepting Alts.

It could make online gambling better, because gamblers have more options to choose which way to play, with BTC or Alt-Coins, not everyone likes to gamble with Alts, but at least people can have this option, it can help Crypto-Currency casinos to attract more players.



Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: JL421 on June 13, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
So you are simply promoting v dice indirectly and who told you all gambling sites are scam and none of them sends instant payment. I have gambled on yolodice and successfully cashed out my profit of 0.4 btc instantly without any delays. They do take fees of 0.0012 btc for instant but at least the site doesn't scam and they send you the funds you deserve


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: ralle14 on June 14, 2017, 07:39:50 AM
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?
Altcoin based casinos are good because they help a certain coin by giving it more uses.
There are some bitcoin casinos that I know that accepts altcoin too so I know a couple like BitSler, Fortunejack, SafeDice.
Yes, gambling with altcoin should make things better because I always see users here asking for gambling  sites that accepts different alts as a deposit.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: milewilda on June 14, 2017, 07:57:50 AM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?
This thing do really affects the gambling industry on which when we do make use of bitcoin we are really bit worried on the deposit confirmation even we say that they are claiming fast and instant deposits on 1 confirmation it would still vary on blockchain network which would really cause up some delay.There are already lots of gambling sites that do really offer or accept altcoin in terms of playing the site and i can see this is really a good alternative.Less confirmation Less hassle.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: tsaroz on June 14, 2017, 01:22:15 PM
No, smart contracts and decentralized apps won't guarantee an scam free operation.

Yes, Ethereum  is a better option for gambling than bitcoins. So, we are seeing a rise in casinos and sports book accepting Ethereum. And Ethereum is going to be the next big crypto.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: BlockEye on June 14, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
No, smart contracts and decentralized apps won't guarantee an scam free operation.

Yes, Ethereum  is a better option for gambling than bitcoins. So, we are seeing a rise in casinos and sports book accepting Ethereum. And Ethereum is going to be the next big crypto.

Besides that. Ethereum is perfect on casino because the transaction is very cheap and the confirmation time is almost instant. This the feature I like the most on bitcoin but now ETH have it and Bitcoin are starting to left behind due to scaling problem. May 5 years from now, Ethereum can possibly overtake Bitcoin once problem on scaling still not resolve.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: CraigWrightBTC on June 14, 2017, 02:25:39 PM
No, smart contracts and decentralized apps won't guarantee an scam free operation.

Yes, Ethereum  is a better option for gambling than bitcoins. So, we are seeing a rise in casinos and sports book accepting Ethereum. And Ethereum is going to be the next big crypto.
Yea you are right, there are no guarantee in digital coins will not be scam, even ethereum its self
there are not guarantee the coin will be survive in the world for long time
 include the gambling website be made ethereum blockchain
for simple always play gambling on the website that has good reputation.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: piloder on June 14, 2017, 02:52:47 PM
Bitcoin tx fee and time it take to get confirmation is really frustrating thing we have these days, altcoin based casino or the one that accept ETH or other alts are already seeing exponentially growth in alts deposits. Personally I also prefer to bet/play with ETH or LTC, talking about ETH smart contract based games like vdice, I don't think they can provide much entertainment because till now only dice game was developed on it.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: Wipro on June 14, 2017, 03:31:54 PM
Bitcoin tx fee and time it take to get confirmation is really frustrating thing we have these days, altcoin based casino or the one that accept ETH or other alts are already seeing exponentially growth in alts deposits. Personally I also prefer to bet/play with ETH or LTC, talking about ETH smart contract based games like vdice, I don't think they can provide much entertainment because till now only dice game was developed on it.


Transaction speed has been due to busy mining pools. You can find many wallet providers are ad that transaction will slow and server issue and other issues as well. Whether it is a bitcoin or any other altcoins you gonna use it same in all the gambling site. Then don't go with the casino, instead you can try in sports and political betting site.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: Gotottack on June 14, 2017, 03:53:50 PM
I guess using altcoins as alternatives to bitcoins could a great idea as the transaction speed of bitcoins has been declining over the past months. Also, the fees are also getting ridiculous that we are all incurring huge costs by moving bitcoins around. By using altcoins we can take advantage of their transaction speed and lower fees.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: Barbut on June 14, 2017, 04:00:43 PM
Betcoin.ag accepts ethereum for a long time, and if you wish to know more they are thinking about adding more altcoins, you can read, and comment and wrote about what coin would you like to see on their site, link to the article on their site is https://www.betcoin.ag/what-additional-cryptocurrencies-should-betcoinag-accept (https://www.betcoin.ag/what-additional-cryptocurrencies-should-betcoinag-accept)
I still gamble just with bitcoins, but after reading so many comments about this topic I kinda plan to try to gamble with some other alt, I feel like I'm missing something, anyway see you at betcoin.ag!


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: maydna on June 14, 2017, 06:00:27 PM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?

i think altcoin-based casinos is an alternative deposit and place a bet in the games because for me, i'd better to place a bet with doge or another cheap altcoin. because i think to buy doge or other, we don't need big fund and we can send it directly without take any longer for the transactions. to place a bet, i think if we are gets loss, they amount of course is really big in that altcoin but if we calculate in btc, we are only loss small amount so i think its good to play with altcoin-based casinos. unfortunately, i don't know many of them which have altcoin-based, i think Crypto-Games still accepting altcoin for placing a bets.

i think if altcoin-based casinos still available, then the world of gambling will be better and people have many choice coins to place a bet for playing gambling and personally, i really like it if its still exist.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: flower1024 on June 14, 2017, 06:26:09 PM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?

i think altcoin-based casinos is an alternative deposit and place a bet in the games because for me, i'd better to place a bet with doge or another cheap altcoin. because i think to buy doge or other, we don't need big fund and we can send it directly without take any longer for the transactions. to place a bet, i think if we are gets loss, they amount of course is really big in that altcoin but if we calculate in btc, we are only loss small amount so i think its good to play with altcoin-based casinos. unfortunately, i don't know many of them which have altcoin-based, i think Crypto-Games still accepting altcoin for placing a bets.

i think if altcoin-based casinos still available, then the world of gambling will be better and people have many choice coins to place a bet for playing gambling and personally, i really like it if its still exist.
Altcoin based casino we don't have much in online. very few sites are accepting altcoins. yes altcoin based gambling is easy to play, and the bet confirmation will not take much time. And deposit and withdraw coins is very easy. Yes if we convert altcoin into BTC if we lose any bet that amount is very less for us. We can bet without any fear.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: densuj on June 14, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
The altcoin can make the world of gambling better especially the gambling games based on ethereum blockchain (dapps gambling on ethereum's blockchain) it is nice fitures of ethereum with smart contract, it will be more popular in the future related business gambling games and other business, smart contract of ethereum is new way to protect the gamblers while they have fun.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: kryptqnick on June 14, 2017, 08:23:06 PM
So you are simply promoting v dice indirectly and who told you all gambling sites are scam and none of them sends instant payment. I have gambled on yolodice and successfully cashed out my profit of 0.4 btc instantly without any delays. They do take fees of 0.0012 btc for instant but at least the site doesn't scam and they send you the funds you deserve
I said nothing about all the sites being scammings or sending payments slowly. It is just that a couple of months ago I was mostly participating in discussions in gambling thread and from those times I remember how some casino was proved to be unfair with poker, some new casinos didn't allow to withdraw the money, there were even conflicts between gamblers and some quite trusted casinos then. Oh, and I remember people complaining about delays in sending payments, especially, the big winnings.
As for accusing me of advertising - the same holds no less for you.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: maydna on June 15, 2017, 02:24:25 PM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?

i think altcoin-based casinos is an alternative deposit and place a bet in the games because for me, i'd better to place a bet with doge or another cheap altcoin. because i think to buy doge or other, we don't need big fund and we can send it directly without take any longer for the transactions. to place a bet, i think if we are gets loss, they amount of course is really big in that altcoin but if we calculate in btc, we are only loss small amount so i think its good to play with altcoin-based casinos. unfortunately, i don't know many of them which have altcoin-based, i think Crypto-Games still accepting altcoin for placing a bets.

i think if altcoin-based casinos still available, then the world of gambling will be better and people have many choice coins to place a bet for playing gambling and personally, i really like it if its still exist.
Altcoin based casino we don't have much in online. very few sites are accepting altcoins. yes altcoin based gambling is easy to play, and the bet confirmation will not take much time. And deposit and withdraw coins is very easy. Yes if we convert altcoin into BTC if we lose any bet that amount is very less for us. We can bet without any fear.

yes that its true and there are only few gambling site for playing the games with altcoin as a bets. as we know that placing a bet with altcoin is easy and simple, i think there will be many people that is interesting to deposit with altcoin and placing the bets with altcoin too. if we can found many sites that accepting altcoin as a bets, then i think many gamblers will interesting to trying and depositing their altcoin to that site.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: michkima on June 16, 2017, 06:46:45 AM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?

i think altcoin-based casinos is an alternative deposit and place a bet in the games because for me, i'd better to place a bet with doge or another cheap altcoin. because i think to buy doge or other, we don't need big fund and we can send it directly without take any longer for the transactions. to place a bet, i think if we are gets loss, they amount of course is really big in that altcoin but if we calculate in btc, we are only loss small amount so i think its good to play with altcoin-based casinos. unfortunately, i don't know many of them which have altcoin-based, i think Crypto-Games still accepting altcoin for placing a bets.

i think if altcoin-based casinos still available, then the world of gambling will be better and people have many choice coins to place a bet for playing gambling and personally, i really like it if its still exist.
Altcoin based casino we don't have much in online. very few sites are accepting altcoins. yes altcoin based gambling is easy to play, and the bet confirmation will not take much time. And deposit and withdraw coins is very easy. Yes if we convert altcoin into BTC if we lose any bet that amount is very less for us. We can bet without any fear.

yes that its true and there are only few gambling site for playing the games with altcoin as a bets. as we know that placing a bet with altcoin is easy and simple, i think there will be many people that is interesting to deposit with altcoin and placing the bets with altcoin too. if we can found many sites that accepting altcoin as a bets, then i think many gamblers will interesting to trying and depositing their altcoin to that site.

I also don't like using altcoins to gamble, there is really little point in doing so for me since I still have to convert my money to bitcoins then to altcoins then deposit it then withdraw it then convert to bitcoins then back to fiat again. That's a tedious process and it expands the process of my betting.


Title: Re: New ways of organizing gambling websites
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 16, 2017, 09:14:37 AM
I think there have been lots of scam accusations related to casinos over the last few months. Moreover, as most of people gamble using btc, they get nervous because of trasactions pending longer than before. I think that these are main reasons why gambling is becoming a less interesting topic. Nevertheless, I guess some huge improvements are being made without many people noticing them. Ethereum allows to perform smart contracts and make decentralized apps. This ensures people that no scamming can possibly happen. Moreover, I guess transactions are performed a lot faster on eth platform than with bitcoin.
An example of such a casino that operates on eth platform is vdice. They have more info in ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1523503.0), you could check this out and perhaps that will seem interesing to you.
What is your attitude to altcoin-based casinos? And are there many you know of? Do you think such things could make the world of gambling better?

Altcoins can definitely solve the problems with transaction fees and speed that plague Bitcoin's network, but I'm not sure if smart contracts are good enough to build some serious project with them, like decentralized casino. On paper it looks brilliant, but in reality there will be many vulnerabilities, that might cause problems like exploits, which can drain casinos bankroll and leave investors robbed, or some bugs which will lead to loss of players funds. It would require a lot of time and work before decentralized casinos will be able to compete with nowdays bitcoin casinos.