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Title: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: TheCoinGrabber on June 14, 2017, 04:30:03 PM Came upon an article while browsing FB. I knew from the title that it's gonna anger me and indeed, it was blood-curdling.
http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/172587-maute-child-soldiers-marawi Quote MARAWI CITY, Philippines – A few years ago, a young boy overheard Cayamora and Farhana Maute talking to his parents about him. The parents of the notorious Maute brothers, responsible for the raging battles in Marawi City, were offering to make him study the Koran. It was a privilege a poor family would not pass up, especially if the offer came from such a respected clan. In the absence of formal schooling, it's common practice in communities here to organize Arabic and Islamic studies for children. “Pangarap ng pamilya ko makapag-aral ako ng Koran (It is my family's dream to make me study the Koran),” said the boy, now in his teens. What is not clear is if his parents were also given monetary assistance. The boy found himself relocating a few years back to the faraway town of Butig, some 50 road kilometers away from Marawi City, where he diligently learned the Koran. But a month into the lessons, they gave him a rifle and taught him how to kill. "Lahat daw ng Christian sa buong mundo, patayin daw, 'te (They said all the Christians in the world must die)," he said. The boy did not know about the Mautes' links to the international terrorist network Islamic State (ISIS) or anything about establishing a caliphate in Mindanao, which, according to the military, was the "grand plan" of the Maute Group. He was told it was his specific duty to kill government soldiers. "Tinuruan ako mag-patay ng tao. Kung di ko siya patayin, ako ang mamamatay. Ako naunahan ba (They taught me how to kill people. If I don't kill, I will die. They will kill me first)," he said. He was once a child soldier fighting alongside the Maute brothers in his not so distant past. If he had stayed with the Mautes, he could be fighting in Marawi today, if not be dead already, he said. When he was in Butig, he did not question the teachings. Not even in his mind. "Naniwala kami din, 'te, mga dalawang taon na 'te. Naniwala talaga 'te (I really did believe them for two years. I really believed)," he said. His singular dream was to go to heaven and he was taught dying in battle was the way this could happen. "Gusto ko talaga magpakamatay (I wanted to die for the cause)," he said. Indeed, the boy recalled being happy in Butig, where he lived in a big house. He was especially fond of riding the horses when they were on a break from studying. He mingled with the Maute children, including Omar and Abdullah, who would rise to international notoriety for the ongoing siege in Marawi City. “Masaya ang Butig. Masaya buhay ko sa Butig (I was happy in Butig. I had a good life there),” he said. To protect the boy, we agreed not to divulge his name and his personal details. We verified the boy's story about his stay in Butig – the hometown of Farhana Maute – by checking military reports too about the terrorist group's operations in Butig. Brainwashed The boy agreed to talk because he doesn’t want more children to be brainwashed by the likes of the Mautes to support a cause that he now says is “very wrong.” That the Maute Group used child soldiers is well reported. Rappler also obtained what appears to be propaganda videos of Filipino-looking children joining adult fighters carrying the ISIS black flag. A high-ranking military officer who operated in Butig confirmed the video was shot in the area. The same officer provided an old photo of child soldiers recovered last year in one military operation in Butig, Farhana's hometown. The boy said he was told it's what Allah wanted him to become. "Sabihin nila, magka-edad ka na. Tapos ito gawin mo. 'Yan ang sinusundan natin dito sa Koran. Utos ng Allah (They say, you are growing up. This is what you should do. This is what we should follow, according to the Koran. It is what Allah wants us to do)," the boy recalled. He was the perfect soldier. There's nothing like the misinformed courage of a child. "Gusto ko talagang patayin ang mga sundalo. Nagtatatakbo ako sa mga puno para maghanap ng sundalo (I really wanted to kill soldiers. I was running among the trees to hunt for them)," he said. He was talking about the clashes last year in Butig, where the Maute Group was able to raise the black flag of the Islamic State (ISIS). Three military offensives were launched there to flush them out. "Naubos ko pa mga bala ko sa unang giyera. Sobra. te. Sabi ko, mamatay ako sa giyera na ito at mapunta na ako sa langit. Kung mamatay sa giyera, kukunin ka ni Allah (I emptied my magazine in my first battle. It was intense. I told myself, 'I will die in this war and I will go to heaven.' If I die in the battlefield, Allah will welcome me to heaven)," he said. "Ready talaga ako mamatay, 'te. Kapag pumutok ang kanyon at ang mga eroplano dumating, hindi talaga ako magtago (I was ready to die. If the cannons were fired and if the planes came, I really wouldn't hide)," he added. The boy didn't die in the wars in Butig. He didn't kill any soldier either. He didn't get the chance to master his marksmanship. And then something happened that changed his life and made him realize the teachings were wrong. We are withholding these details to protect his identity. Today the boy said he still reads the Koran on his own. "Magbasa ako ng Koran. Pakiramdam ko 'te parang magaan (I read the Koran and when I do, I feel much better)," he said. He hears the clashes in Butig and he knows some of his friends are fighting to get to heaven. "Maling-mali talaga, 'te (It's really wrong)," he said. The military was surprised by the Maute Group's resistance in Marawi City because bandits usually run to the mountains and escape when confronted with heavy artillery. The clash is now on its 4th week and the fighters are still holding out. If they were trained like the young boy, it means they are all ready to kill and they are all ready to die. – Rappler.com What must be done to stop this madness? Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: gabmen on June 15, 2017, 10:50:52 AM I've read about this article and it made me feel really angry that these children are dragged to do something they're not even supposed to know about yet. It's a very cowardly way to use kids for war. Using religion, fear, their status in life, to take advantage of these young minds are way beyond evil. These people should rot in whataver hell they believe in
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 15, 2017, 03:16:51 PM A bullet is a bullet, whether it comes from a 10-year old or a 40-year old. It is a matter of life and death. If it is not possible to disarm them, then unfortunately these soldiers must be exterminated. Else, they are going to massacre innocent civilians.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Spendulus on June 15, 2017, 09:14:49 PM A bullet is a bullet, whether it comes from a 10-year old or a 40-year old. It is a matter of life and death. If it is not possible to disarm them, then unfortunately these soldiers must be exterminated. Else, they are going to massacre innocent civilians. Still, in most conflicts when the leadership of an army is killed, the army itself does not continue to fight. Not only is that almost impossible logistically, but the individual men conscripted typically prefer to go home and have a life, rather than be in any army.Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Xester on June 15, 2017, 09:47:07 PM Crazy people. Uses their power and money to manipulate poor people. Their target are the young ones cause they do not know anything yet. Since the government of the Philippines have already captured the mother and the mother of the Maute, maybe they can execute them already. If they escape maybe they can organize a new Maute group and new recruits will evolve.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: masterwakokok7 on June 16, 2017, 02:31:50 AM Those people who has the power and money can manipulate the poor. With there money they can easily persuade adults, teenagers and even kids ages from 5-12 to simply work for them. This is one of their tactics (Syndicates/Rebels), Using kids in wars and any other activities could give them leverage over the Government. Maute group is well compensated by other officials, to cut expenses and to increase the number of their members they recruit even kids. This is not new even Abu Sayaff, Al queda, MILF, BILF, and NPA do this.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 16, 2017, 02:35:16 AM A bullet is a bullet, whether it comes from a 10-year old or a 40-year old. It is a matter of life and death. If it is not possible to disarm them, then unfortunately these soldiers must be exterminated. Else, they are going to massacre innocent civilians. Still, in most conflicts when the leadership of an army is killed, the army itself does not continue to fight. Not only is that almost impossible logistically, but the individual men conscripted typically prefer to go home and have a life, rather than be in any army.This logic is not applicable to the Islamist extremist groups such as the ISIS, as we have seen from the previous incidents. The loss of their leaders seems to be having very little impact on their battle-worthiness. The leaders are replaced in no time, and the effects are not being felt in the frontline. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: digaran on June 16, 2017, 05:00:05 AM Are you going to conclude that the problem is not the people rather Quran? and some body comes here and says: this is unacceptable, we should fight this?
Well we must fight this because this is exactly what Quran tells us to do, not what they are doing. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: seojp on June 16, 2017, 06:22:43 AM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: crwth on June 16, 2017, 06:37:34 AM Those people who has the power and money can manipulate the poor. With there money they can easily persuade adults, teenagers and even kids ages from 5-12 to simply work for them. This is one of their tactics (Syndicates/Rebels), Using kids in wars and any other activities could give them leverage over the Government. Maute group is well compensated by other officials, to cut expenses and to increase the number of their members they recruit even kids. This is not new even Abu Sayaff, Al queda, MILF, BILF, and NPA do this. That's why money is somehow and always being told that it is the root of all evil. People prioritize people with money and that could be a bridge way how the country works. If the country is really populated by greedy people, like oligarchs and people who bribe, then that's what thrives the country. It's what makes the country go. That's just the first thing of it. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Masha Sha on June 16, 2017, 09:09:03 AM If they only knew what hidding in the belly of the west they would be running for their lives...
https://s14-eu5.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthumb1.shutterstock.com%2Fdisplay_pic_with_logo%2F3766055%2F428784160%2Fstock-photo-view-of-inside-of-big-breeding-pig-farm-428784160.jpg&sp=d8afd87f6eac0c6e7e87a3ecc2ba38c9 ;) Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 16, 2017, 11:24:03 AM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. The usage of child soldiers is widespread in the ISIS controlled areas. Look at what happened in Sinjar, Iraq. The ISIS over-ran the Yazidi inhabited areas and then they murdered all the adult men. The women and the girls were taken as sex slaves, while the boys were sent to religious indoctrination camps, where they were given training for becoming suicide bombers. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Fredomago on June 16, 2017, 11:32:55 AM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. The usage of child soldiers is widespread in the ISIS controlled areas. Look at what happened in Sinjar, Iraq. The ISIS over-ran the Yazidi inhabited areas and then they murdered all the adult men. The women and the girls were taken as sex slaves, while the boys were sent to religious indoctrination camps, where they were given training for becoming suicide bombers. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Supreemo on June 16, 2017, 12:05:04 PM .I could only say that those children doesn't deserve to be treated like that instead of going to school, they were sent to battle fields carrying high caliber of guns joining and struggling among their soldiers. Their freedom to go to school have been taken away and being brainwashed by their local community, I didn't see any brighter future ahead of them.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Mometaskers on June 17, 2017, 11:42:04 AM This is utterly disgusting. I hope they can get a child abuse charge for inciting children to violence and putting them on the battlefield.
"Give me a child for 7 years, and I'll give you the man." The quote is said to have been made by Francis Xavier and one that Jesuits boast is achievable through famous "Jesuit Education". For me it highlights what's at stake when we give people control on what they want to do with children. Children are the religion and ethnicity they have simply because they were brought up like that. This really need to stop. I hope that the president would have some balls to implement a thorough surveillance of all religious and ethnically based educational institution. A bullet is a bullet, whether it comes from a 10-year old or a 40-year old. It is a matter of life and death. If it is not possible to disarm them, then unfortunately these soldiers must be exterminated. Else, they are going to massacre innocent civilians. Sadly. I doubt our soldiers would purposely hurt them but in battle, either you shot these kids or they'll shoot you. You likely have kids at home waiting for you. You'll have more to lose than these kids. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 17, 2017, 11:45:46 AM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. The usage of child soldiers is widespread in the ISIS controlled areas. Look at what happened in Sinjar, Iraq. The ISIS over-ran the Yazidi inhabited areas and then they murdered all the adult men. The women and the girls were taken as sex slaves, while the boys were sent to religious indoctrination camps, where they were given training for becoming suicide bombers. This has been practiced ever since Islam was spread through warfare starting from the 8th century onward. And I doubt whether they will ever stop this practice. It is very convenient. The children are very easy to be brainwashed, and even if they are killed the core group is not losing any of their members. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: NY-city on June 17, 2017, 12:10:45 PM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. The usage of child soldiers is widespread in the ISIS controlled areas. Look at what happened in Sinjar, Iraq. The ISIS over-ran the Yazidi inhabited areas and then they murdered all the adult men. The women and the girls were taken as sex slaves, while the boys were sent to religious indoctrination camps, where they were given training for becoming suicide bombers. This has been practiced ever since Islam was spread through warfare starting from the 8th century onward. And I doubt whether they will ever stop this practice. It is very convenient. The children are very easy to be brainwashed, and even if they are killed the core group is not losing any of their members. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: merchantofzeny on June 17, 2017, 04:21:24 PM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. The usage of child soldiers is widespread in the ISIS controlled areas. Look at what happened in Sinjar, Iraq. The ISIS over-ran the Yazidi inhabited areas and then they murdered all the adult men. The women and the girls were taken as sex slaves, while the boys were sent to religious indoctrination camps, where they were given training for becoming suicide bombers. This has been practiced ever since Islam was spread through warfare starting from the 8th century onward. And I doubt whether they will ever stop this practice. It is very convenient. The children are very easy to be brainwashed, and even if they are killed the core group is not losing any of their members. @Sithara007 didn't Janissaries started out as kidnapped Christian boys that were force converted and given military training? I wouldn't be surprised if there were other similar practices but that's the one the immediately comes to mind. @NY-city although some would insist it's sort of the same thing, I believe a country really need a strong secular government that have enough clout to keep these religious institutions in check. If possible restrict religious education to legal aged citizens only, if an outright ban isn't convenient. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Kemarit on June 17, 2017, 04:22:01 PM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. The usage of child soldiers is widespread in the ISIS controlled areas. Look at what happened in Sinjar, Iraq. The ISIS over-ran the Yazidi inhabited areas and then they murdered all the adult men. The women and the girls were taken as sex slaves, while the boys were sent to religious indoctrination camps, where they were given training for becoming suicide bombers. This has been practiced ever since Islam was spread through warfare starting from the 8th century onward. And I doubt whether they will ever stop this practice. It is very convenient. The children are very easy to be brainwashed, and even if they are killed the core group is not losing any of their members. No surprise at all. I've seen a lot of video's in YouTube teaching young kids how to be a terrorist. So its no shocker to see it in the Philippines. Although we are not accustomed Filipinos seeing young kids being treated like that. That is why terrorist will not be totally eliminated because of their practice. It is just a pity that this kids freedom are totally removed from them as early as 5 years of age. They brainwashed the kids family and promised them something in return so that they will let their boy join the terrorist group. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: yoseph on June 17, 2017, 06:59:23 PM Its no surprise that the so called religion of peace exploit children and use them for their barbaric acts,They are only concerned about their own lives and no one else.Teaching children to shot and behead others is disgusting. This religion is the bane of the entire world.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 18, 2017, 04:33:37 AM @Sithara007 didn't Janissaries started out as kidnapped Christian boys that were force converted and given military training? I wouldn't be surprised if there were other similar practices but that's the one the immediately comes to mind. Yes.. the ISIS is following the same methodology. The formation of the Janissary Corps was like killing two birds with one stone. First, it strengthened the Ottoman army by increasing its size. Secondly, it reduced the size of the Christian population within the Ottoman Empire (mostly Greeks and Albanians, but later the recruitment was also drawn from Ukrainians, Bulgars, Southern Russians, Romanians, Yugoslavs, and Armenians) Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: freedomno1 on June 18, 2017, 05:39:13 AM Basically they take the poor ones and train them to be child soldiers. Then improve the persons standard of living while brainwashing them. Kind of draws a parallel towards how gangs and mobs are made to begin with born in a poor neighbourhood friend's join gang see their bling and get interested next thing you know part of the mafia.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Xester on June 18, 2017, 11:58:03 AM Basically they take the poor ones and train them to be child soldiers. Then improve the persons standard of living while brainwashing them. Kind of draws a parallel towards how gangs and mobs are made to begin with born in a poor neighbourhood friend's join gang see their bling and get interested next thing you know part of the mafia. And it is easier for kids to be brainwashed. Also those who were came from poor family in Mindanao is being offered in exchange of education for their kids without knowing that they will become terrorist. When you are poor you will always want to become rich, you always want to stop it. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: hawthelegend on June 18, 2017, 01:19:21 PM This is just so unfair! So inhumane! I would behead those mautes if myself if i had the chance to do so! But, i would torture them for 30 days strait until they beg for me to kill them! I will stick needles everywhere, i will pull out all their teeth! I would burn them till 2nd-3rd degree, i will pour alcohol in their wounds, i will cut their fingers slowly with a dull knife! I will tear their ligaments for extreme pain. I will show them hell on earth before i send them there myself! Then i will let one live with both hands and feet amputated with the tongue well cut. He will be more useless than what he was before but unable to cause anymore pain to anyone and anything.
If only i had the money and power. I would do this to every terrorist that id ever get my hands on. I will take videos to make people see what will happen to them if they ever choose the path that the other terrorists took.. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: merchantofzeny on June 18, 2017, 05:31:37 PM @Sithara007 didn't Janissaries started out as kidnapped Christian boys that were force converted and given military training? I wouldn't be surprised if there were other similar practices but that's the one the immediately comes to mind. Yes.. the ISIS is following the same methodology. The formation of the Janissary Corps was like killing two birds with one stone. First, it strengthened the Ottoman army by increasing its size. Secondly, it reduced the size of the Christian population within the Ottoman Empire (mostly Greeks and Albanians, but later the recruitment was also drawn from Ukrainians, Bulgars, Southern Russians, Romanians, Yugoslavs, and Armenians) Yup, read somewhere that it became very common in Central and Eastern Europe that parents would tattoo crosses on their children to prevent them from being converted. (Can't remember if that was in Armenia or Hungary.) Aside from them reducing the population of the Christians, it probably makes them less likely to rebel since they could be fighting their own offspring (not that their children would probably remember them). Not to mention this also reduced the number of males Christians can field. If it was not disgusting, I would say it was a brilliant move. I wonder if anyone has used this AGAINST Muslims. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: CriptoSven on June 18, 2017, 06:03:14 PM @Sithara007 didn't Janissaries started out as kidnapped Christian boys that were force converted and given military training? I wouldn't be surprised if there were other similar practices but that's the one the immediately comes to mind. Yes.. the ISIS is following the same methodology. The formation of the Janissary Corps was like killing two birds with one stone. First, it strengthened the Ottoman army by increasing its size. Secondly, it reduced the size of the Christian population within the Ottoman Empire (mostly Greeks and Albanians, but later the recruitment was also drawn from Ukrainians, Bulgars, Southern Russians, Romanians, Yugoslavs, and Armenians) Yup, read somewhere that it became very common in Central and Eastern Europe that parents would tattoo crosses on their children to prevent them from being converted. (Can't remember if that was in Armenia or Hungary.) Aside from them reducing the population of the Christians, it probably makes them less likely to rebel since they could be fighting their own offspring (not that their children would probably remember them). Not to mention this also reduced the number of males Christians can field. If it was not disgusting, I would say it was a brilliant move. I wonder if anyone has used this AGAINST Muslims. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: BobBct on June 18, 2017, 06:48:15 PM The real killer is "BELIEF". And if this wrong belief is being pass down to young kids, it will become Faith, a very strong one. A faith that is ready to destroy life even their own.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 19, 2017, 02:12:52 AM Yup, read somewhere that it became very common in Central and Eastern Europe that parents would tattoo crosses on their children to prevent them from being converted. (Can't remember if that was in Armenia or Hungary.) Aside from them reducing the population of the Christians, it probably makes them less likely to rebel since they could be fighting their own offspring (not that their children would probably remember them). Not to mention this also reduced the number of males Christians can field. If it was not disgusting, I would say it was a brilliant move. I wonder if anyone has used this AGAINST Muslims. Islam is a religion which gives a lot of emphasis to the demography. They take every step to increase their population. The males can have up to 4 wives (including non-Muslim women), and the widows are immediately remarried. Also, they are encouraged to have as many children as possible. Family planning is strictly prohibited. In war, the non-Muslim prisoners of war are spared from execution of they convert to Islam. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: CARrency on June 19, 2017, 02:25:02 AM I've heard this before to a soldier I knew fighting Muslims for a while now. He said that no one can be trusted in that place, they are guarding the families, the places there, even the schools but they are still bombed and shot. What really surprise them is even kids fight in war, he said in a joke tone, maybe pregnant , babies and old people are the only one who are not joining the war. This is really a below the belt blow for our soldiers.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: NJB18 on June 19, 2017, 03:56:57 AM Came upon an article while browsing FB. I knew from the title that it's gonna anger me and indeed, it was blood-curdling. http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/172587-maute-child-soldiers-marawi Quote MARAWI CITY, Philippines – A few years ago, a young boy overheard Cayamora and Farhana Maute talking to his parents about him. The parents of the notorious Maute brothers, responsible for the raging battles in Marawi City, were offering to make him study the Koran. It was a privilege a poor family would not pass up, especially if the offer came from such a respected clan. In the absence of formal schooling, it's common practice in communities here to organize Arabic and Islamic studies for children. “Pangarap ng pamilya ko makapag-aral ako ng Koran (It is my family's dream to make me study the Koran),” said the boy, now in his teens. What is not clear is if his parents were also given monetary assistance. The boy found himself relocating a few years back to the faraway town of Butig, some 50 road kilometers away from Marawi City, where he diligently learned the Koran. But a month into the lessons, they gave him a rifle and taught him how to kill. "Lahat daw ng Christian sa buong mundo, patayin daw, 'te (They said all the Christians in the world must die)," he said. The boy did not know about the Mautes' links to the international terrorist network Islamic State (ISIS) or anything about establishing a caliphate in Mindanao, which, according to the military, was the "grand plan" of the Maute Group. He was told it was his specific duty to kill government soldiers. "Tinuruan ako mag-patay ng tao. Kung di ko siya patayin, ako ang mamamatay. Ako naunahan ba (They taught me how to kill people. If I don't kill, I will die. They will kill me first)," he said. He was once a child soldier fighting alongside the Maute brothers in his not so distant past. If he had stayed with the Mautes, he could be fighting in Marawi today, if not be dead already, he said. When he was in Butig, he did not question the teachings. Not even in his mind. "Naniwala kami din, 'te, mga dalawang taon na 'te. Naniwala talaga 'te (I really did believe them for two years. I really believed)," he said. His singular dream was to go to heaven and he was taught dying in battle was the way this could happen. "Gusto ko talaga magpakamatay (I wanted to die for the cause)," he said. Indeed, the boy recalled being happy in Butig, where he lived in a big house. He was especially fond of riding the horses when they were on a break from studying. He mingled with the Maute children, including Omar and Abdullah, who would rise to international notoriety for the ongoing siege in Marawi City. “Masaya ang Butig. Masaya buhay ko sa Butig (I was happy in Butig. I had a good life there),” he said. To protect the boy, we agreed not to divulge his name and his personal details. We verified the boy's story about his stay in Butig – the hometown of Farhana Maute – by checking military reports too about the terrorist group's operations in Butig. Brainwashed The boy agreed to talk because he doesn’t want more children to be brainwashed by the likes of the Mautes to support a cause that he now says is “very wrong.” That the Maute Group used child soldiers is well reported. Rappler also obtained what appears to be propaganda videos of Filipino-looking children joining adult fighters carrying the ISIS black flag. A high-ranking military officer who operated in Butig confirmed the video was shot in the area. The same officer provided an old photo of child soldiers recovered last year in one military operation in Butig, Farhana's hometown. The boy said he was told it's what Allah wanted him to become. "Sabihin nila, magka-edad ka na. Tapos ito gawin mo. 'Yan ang sinusundan natin dito sa Koran. Utos ng Allah (They say, you are growing up. This is what you should do. This is what we should follow, according to the Koran. It is what Allah wants us to do)," the boy recalled. He was the perfect soldier. There's nothing like the misinformed courage of a child. "Gusto ko talagang patayin ang mga sundalo. Nagtatatakbo ako sa mga puno para maghanap ng sundalo (I really wanted to kill soldiers. I was running among the trees to hunt for them)," he said. He was talking about the clashes last year in Butig, where the Maute Group was able to raise the black flag of the Islamic State (ISIS). Three military offensives were launched there to flush them out. "Naubos ko pa mga bala ko sa unang giyera. Sobra. te. Sabi ko, mamatay ako sa giyera na ito at mapunta na ako sa langit. Kung mamatay sa giyera, kukunin ka ni Allah (I emptied my magazine in my first battle. It was intense. I told myself, 'I will die in this war and I will go to heaven.' If I die in the battlefield, Allah will welcome me to heaven)," he said. "Ready talaga ako mamatay, 'te. Kapag pumutok ang kanyon at ang mga eroplano dumating, hindi talaga ako magtago (I was ready to die. If the cannons were fired and if the planes came, I really wouldn't hide)," he added. The boy didn't die in the wars in Butig. He didn't kill any soldier either. He didn't get the chance to master his marksmanship. And then something happened that changed his life and made him realize the teachings were wrong. We are withholding these details to protect his identity. Today the boy said he still reads the Koran on his own. "Magbasa ako ng Koran. Pakiramdam ko 'te parang magaan (I read the Koran and when I do, I feel much better)," he said. He hears the clashes in Butig and he knows some of his friends are fighting to get to heaven. "Maling-mali talaga, 'te (It's really wrong)," he said. The military was surprised by the Maute Group's resistance in Marawi City because bandits usually run to the mountains and escape when confronted with heavy artillery. The clash is now on its 4th week and the fighters are still holding out. If they were trained like the young boy, it means they are all ready to kill and they are all ready to die. – Rappler.com What must be done to stop this madness? I have also read this story. This is published in Rappler.com. It made me angry! Children should be trained to read and write and appreciate knowledge. What these f*cking group does is train them to use guns, detonate bombs and appreciate killing people. Children should be provided with good foundations so that when they grow up they will learn to function well as a person and as a member of a society. These Maute terrorists are brainwashing them so that they will function as killing machines when they grow up. But the article somehow left me hanging though. I would like to know how in the world was this specific person brought back into his sane mind when all his life, starting when he was an innocent little child, everything imbued upon him was hatred and violence. I really would want to know what miracle turned him over into a new leaf. Does anyone know? Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: silverkamote on June 19, 2017, 04:59:33 AM so many many maute members are terorizing marawi city. philipine president rodrigo duterte is now taking action to stop there bad behavior. so many inosent people are dying becoz of them.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: crwth on June 19, 2017, 05:35:59 AM That just shows how crazy it seems that they do that and think that they are doing the right thing. I don't know whether or not it's okay for them to do that with respect to their religion and that's not a good thing in spite of other things. Doing things like that means the future generation of them will still breed people like them, who are willing to kill people and believe that they are doing the right thing even though it's really really bad.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: joromz1226 on June 19, 2017, 07:21:01 AM Most of the Muslim in the Philippines are the problem of the government. Especially Muslim who stayed in Mindanao, they are shit most of them. But thanks to Mr. President Duterte who take action about what happen in marawi.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: d0flaming0 on June 19, 2017, 03:00:42 PM ,,,I really wonder why those parents let their children risk their lives in the battlefield wearing and carrying guns and ammo fighting for the sake of other people's ambition. I don't think they wanted to be part of those groups.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Xester on June 19, 2017, 04:15:53 PM ,,,I really wonder why those parents let their children risk their lives in the battlefield wearing and carrying guns and ammo fighting for the sake of other people's ambition. I don't think they wanted to be part of those groups. These parents were also victims here. Because of extreme poverty, they want to help their kids to not be like them. When someone will told them that they will get their children and send them to school, they would immediately believe it and let other takes their kids. They were promised of good future and wealthy life that is why we cannot blame them for that. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: bryant.coleman on June 19, 2017, 04:45:15 PM Most of the Muslim in the Philippines are the problem of the government. Especially Muslim who stayed in Mindanao, they are shit most of them. But thanks to Mr. President Duterte who take action about what happen in marawi. You are very lucky to have a powerful leader such as Duterte. He is standing up to the Islamic terror with all the courage and determination. Compare this to the situation in Germany, where Angela Merkel is hell bent upon destroying the native culture and traditions by importing millions of uneducated Arabs from the third world nations. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: carlisle1 on June 19, 2017, 04:52:41 PM ,,,I really wonder why those parents let their children risk their lives in the battlefield wearing and carrying guns and ammo fighting for the sake of other people's ambition. I don't think they wanted to be part of those groups. These parents were also victims here. Because of extreme poverty, they want to help their kids to not be like them. When someone will told them that they will get their children and send them to school, they would immediately believe it and let other takes their kids. They were promised of good future and wealthy life that is why we cannot blame them for that. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Kemarit on June 19, 2017, 07:59:44 PM Most of the Muslim in the Philippines are the problem of the government. Especially Muslim who stayed in Mindanao, they are shit most of them. But thanks to Mr. President Duterte who take action about what happen in marawi. You are very lucky to have a powerful leader such as Duterte. He is standing up to the Islamic terror with all the courage and determination. Compare this to the situation in Germany, where Angela Merkel is hell bent upon destroying the native culture and traditions by importing millions of uneducated Arabs from the third world nations. Yeah we are very lucky indeed. President Duterte will not stop until this so called ISIS wannabee is destroyed. He is also hell bent to do everything in his power to kill those involved because he don't want the Philippines to be in constant fear of this terrorist. Too bad Merkel is the complete of President Duterte that is why Europe is turning into a mess right now. I hope that this Maute brothers or whoever the leader of this group can be captured so that the this war in Marawi will be over. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on June 20, 2017, 01:56:17 AM Most of the Muslim in the Philippines are the problem of the government. Especially Muslim who stayed in Mindanao, they are shit most of them. But thanks to Mr. President Duterte who take action about what happen in marawi. Whenever they try to create an issue, just use iron fist to suppress them. Appeasement never works with these people (example is Germany). If the problem is nipped in the bud, then initially the terrorist sympathizers will complain that their human rights are being breached, but after some time they will also shut up and move to some other liberal nation. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Mometaskers on June 20, 2017, 12:24:21 PM Most of the Muslim in the Philippines are the problem of the government. Especially Muslim who stayed in Mindanao, they are shit most of them. But thanks to Mr. President Duterte who take action about what happen in marawi. Whenever they try to create an issue, just use iron fist to suppress them. Appeasement never works with these people (example is Germany). If the problem is nipped in the bud, then initially the terrorist sympathizers will complain that their human rights are being breached, but after some time they will also shut up and move to some other liberal nation. Maybe have a bridge to Malaysia so they can flee there if they don't agree with our secular law? It seems they plan to use the same strategy in Europe here. When they tried to create an autonomous region for Muslims years ago, only 4 of the provinces given referendum agreed to join, mainly because the other provinces are Christian-majority. By attacking Muslim areas first, these terrorists would push Muslims into Christian provinces were they'll breed like rabbits. If armed conflict failed and they hold another referendum instead.... Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Coins and Hardwork on June 20, 2017, 12:41:24 PM ,,,I really wonder why those parents let their children risk their lives in the battlefield wearing and carrying guns and ammo fighting for the sake of other people's ambition. I don't think they wanted to be part of those groups. They are not letting their children risk their lives. These parents don't have a choice, these terrorist get their children to get more arms for the war. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: merchantofzeny on June 20, 2017, 03:58:56 PM Yup, read somewhere that it became very common in Central and Eastern Europe that parents would tattoo crosses on their children to prevent them from being converted. (Can't remember if that was in Armenia or Hungary.) Aside from them reducing the population of the Christians, it probably makes them less likely to rebel since they could be fighting their own offspring (not that their children would probably remember them). Not to mention this also reduced the number of males Christians can field. If it was not disgusting, I would say it was a brilliant move. I wonder if anyone has used this AGAINST Muslims. Islam is a religion which gives a lot of emphasis to the demography. They take every step to increase their population. The males can have up to 4 wives (including non-Muslim women), and the widows are immediately remarried. Also, they are encouraged to have as many children as possible. Family planning is strictly prohibited. In war, the non-Muslim prisoners of war are spared from execution of they convert to Islam. The polygyny definitely drives up population in just a short amount of time. I've heard about widows being remarried just few days after being widowed but what if they already got children? Are they remarried still? I remember the Byzantines also used to do this, though probably not on the same scale as Muslims. Byzantines just required you be Christian and fluent in Greek to be considered citizen. Most of the Muslim in the Philippines are the problem of the government. Especially Muslim who stayed in Mindanao, they are shit most of them. But thanks to Mr. President Duterte who take action about what happen in marawi. Whenever they try to create an issue, just use iron fist to suppress them. Appeasement never works with these people (example is Germany). If the problem is nipped in the bud, then initially the terrorist sympathizers will complain that their human rights are being breached, but after some time they will also shut up and move to some other liberal nation. Maybe have a bridge to Malaysia so they can flee there if they don't agree with our secular law? It seems they plan to use the same strategy in Europe here. When they tried to create an autonomous region for Muslims years ago, only 4 of the provinces given referendum agreed to join, mainly because the other provinces are Christian-majority. By attacking Muslim areas first, these terrorists would push Muslims into Christian provinces were they'll breed like rabbits. If armed conflict failed and they hold another referendum instead.... Creepy, no? Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Xester on June 20, 2017, 04:11:54 PM ,,,I really wonder why those parents let their children risk their lives in the battlefield wearing and carrying guns and ammo fighting for the sake of other people's ambition. I don't think they wanted to be part of those groups. They are not letting their children risk their lives. These parents don't have a choice, these terrorist get their children to get more arms for the war. Well some are doing that, kidnapping innocent children to be trained as a terrorist someday. But most of the time, some were recruited through false promises. They will talk to the parents of the child that they will teach them and help to support its education. Without knowing that the real intention is to kill people ang be a terrorist. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2017, 04:23:05 PM Yeah we are very lucky indeed. President Duterte will not stop until this so called ISIS wannabee is destroyed. He is also hell bent to do everything in his power to kill those involved because he don't want the Philippines to be in constant fear of this terrorist. Too bad Merkel is the complete of President Duterte that is why Europe is turning into a mess right now. I hope that this Maute brothers or whoever the leader of this group can be captured so that the this war in Marawi will be over. I don't think that the issues will be resolved if the leader is captured. That is an interesting aspect about Islamic extremism. The Islamist terror is not dependent upon an individual. It is based on ideology and not overly dependent on a particular person. Even if all the top-level leaders are removed, they will be replaced in no time. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: kodes88 on June 20, 2017, 06:50:18 PM wtf is that?i dont think that child already 15 years old,and he trained with a gun on hand,ISIS really have no idea to recruit their member,and this also proven that ISIS have no power to recruit massive member,that why they also train child as soldier,this can be big problem to us,because ISIS also a warning for our child future. thanks for sharing..
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: TheCoinGrabber on June 20, 2017, 07:20:46 PM wtf is that?i dont think that child already 15 years old,and he trained with a gun on hand,ISIS really have no idea to recruit their member,and this also proven that ISIS have no power to recruit massive member,that why they also train child as soldier,this can be big problem to us,because ISIS also a warning for our child future. thanks for sharing.. Any "cause" that is recruiting and indoctrinating children should cause concern for anyone. We all know have suggestible kids are, what more when you isolate them from society and make them do certain stuff that they'll inevitably think is normal to do. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: gccaalim on July 13, 2017, 06:21:39 AM These children should have nothing to do with the war, their mind are so innocent to kill. The real problem here is their parents who wishes these children to go to war. These children should be holding books and pen not guns and ammunition. If given a chance I would love to discuss the advantage of studying these young minds to their parents and how will it help the next generation/
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Xester on July 13, 2017, 10:39:54 AM These children should have nothing to do with the war, their mind are so innocent to kill. The real problem here is their parents who wishes these children to go to war. These children should be holding books and pen not guns and ammunition. If given a chance I would love to discuss the advantage of studying these young minds to their parents and how will it help the next generation/ Definitely these children have nothing to do with the war and also their parents. The problem is not their parents it is the greedy and evil minds who just want terrorism and war. If you read the subject and its contents, it stated there that the terrorist talked to the parents of these children and promised them that they will be sent to school and to be taught Quran. Because Muslim wanted for their children to have that learning. Unfortunately, it was not all true and all they wanted is to train these kids to become a terrorist. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: hyunee on July 20, 2017, 07:27:15 AM Sadly, but this is true. As I saw the news in the television weeks ago. The terrorist incident that happened in Marawi City involves a child soldier. It breaks my heart at a young age they are already involved in this crucial problem. I hope government would do something about this.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: lombok on July 20, 2017, 07:37:32 AM Who is the brain of the terrorist kingpin that needs to be fought. Religion does not teach its people to be a terrorist. What he really wants is to force his will by force.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: TahuDiniHari on July 20, 2017, 06:28:10 PM I as a Muslim, I really do not like any thing that smells of terrorism. Because basically we live in this world to help each other and help. But unfortunately the foreigners are not responsible, always think 'radical Muslims' with ease. I live amid a very high difference. In social media very many people attack one religion and another religion. I am very concerned about the actions of such people. Should look to ourselves, we live in this world has been useful or not, have done something useful for others or not, if you already include people who are useful to the world. Try to think, the age of the world getting older, how long will the war continue, let's move and act for world peace.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on July 20, 2017, 06:33:29 PM Sadly, but this is true. As I saw the news in the television weeks ago. The terrorist incident that happened in Marawi City involves a child soldier. It breaks my heart at a young age they are already involved in this crucial problem. I hope government would do something about this. It is not surprising. The ISIS has a long history of using child soldiers, especially for suicide missions. There is enough evidence for this from Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan. And in Syria and Iraq, a large part of these child soldiers are abducted Yazidi children, who were forced to convert to Islam. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: karisiak123 on August 08, 2017, 09:26:55 PM Prokadagma is now very fooling children and they say they have killed so many Muslim women and no mercy.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: basesaw on August 08, 2017, 09:57:31 PM Sadly, but this is true. As I saw the news in the television weeks ago. The terrorist incident that happened in Marawi City involves a child soldier. It breaks my heart at a young age they are already involved in this crucial problem. I hope government would do something about this. It is not surprising. The ISIS has a long history of using child soldiers, especially for suicide missions. There is enough evidence for this from Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan. And in Syria and Iraq, a large part of these child soldiers are abducted Yazidi children, who were forced to convert to Islam. This was sad that ISIS using its religion to conquer a certain place/teritory where in fact religion must be the first in line to spread unity in all places and not act of terrorism. maybe ISIS has secret agenda on why they are using their religion on their act of terrorism and forces many people to convert to their religion so that they will not be killed. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Buttercup123 on August 09, 2017, 02:38:03 AM Came upon an article while browsing FB. I knew from the title that it's gonna anger me and indeed, it was blood-curdling. http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/172587-maute-child-soldiers-marawi Quote MARAWI CITY, Philippines – A few years ago, a young boy overheard Cayamora and Farhana Maute talking to his parents about him. The parents of the notorious Maute brothers, responsible for the raging battles in Marawi City, were offering to make him study the Koran. It was a privilege a poor family would not pass up, especially if the offer came from such a respected clan. In the absence of formal schooling, it's common practice in communities here to organize Arabic and Islamic studies for children. “Pangarap ng pamilya ko makapag-aral ako ng Koran (It is my family's dream to make me study the Koran),” said the boy, now in his teens. What is not clear is if his parents were also given monetary assistance. The boy found himself relocating a few years back to the faraway town of Butig, some 50 road kilometers away from Marawi City, where he diligently learned the Koran. But a month into the lessons, they gave him a rifle and taught him how to kill. "Lahat daw ng Christian sa buong mundo, patayin daw, 'te (They said all the Christians in the world must die)," he said. The boy did not know about the Mautes' links to the international terrorist network Islamic State (ISIS) or anything about establishing a caliphate in Mindanao, which, according to the military, was the "grand plan" of the Maute Group. He was told it was his specific duty to kill government soldiers. "Tinuruan ako mag-patay ng tao. Kung di ko siya patayin, ako ang mamamatay. Ako naunahan ba (They taught me how to kill people. If I don't kill, I will die. They will kill me first)," he said. He was once a child soldier fighting alongside the Maute brothers in his not so distant past. If he had stayed with the Mautes, he could be fighting in Marawi today, if not be dead already, he said. When he was in Butig, he did not question the teachings. Not even in his mind. "Naniwala kami din, 'te, mga dalawang taon na 'te. Naniwala talaga 'te (I really did believe them for two years. I really believed)," he said. His singular dream was to go to heaven and he was taught dying in battle was the way this could happen. "Gusto ko talaga magpakamatay (I wanted to die for the cause)," he said. Indeed, the boy recalled being happy in Butig, where he lived in a big house. He was especially fond of riding the horses when they were on a break from studying. He mingled with the Maute children, including Omar and Abdullah, who would rise to international notoriety for the ongoing siege in Marawi City. “Masaya ang Butig. Masaya buhay ko sa Butig (I was happy in Butig. I had a good life there),” he said. To protect the boy, we agreed not to divulge his name and his personal details. We verified the boy's story about his stay in Butig – the hometown of Farhana Maute – by checking military reports too about the terrorist group's operations in Butig. Brainwashed The boy agreed to talk because he doesn’t want more children to be brainwashed by the likes of the Mautes to support a cause that he now says is “very wrong.” That the Maute Group used child soldiers is well reported. Rappler also obtained what appears to be propaganda videos of Filipino-looking children joining adult fighters carrying the ISIS black flag. A high-ranking military officer who operated in Butig confirmed the video was shot in the area. The same officer provided an old photo of child soldiers recovered last year in one military operation in Butig, Farhana's hometown. The boy said he was told it's what Allah wanted him to become. "Sabihin nila, magka-edad ka na. Tapos ito gawin mo. 'Yan ang sinusundan natin dito sa Koran. Utos ng Allah (They say, you are growing up. This is what you should do. This is what we should follow, according to the Koran. It is what Allah wants us to do)," the boy recalled. He was the perfect soldier. There's nothing like the misinformed courage of a child. "Gusto ko talagang patayin ang mga sundalo. Nagtatatakbo ako sa mga puno para maghanap ng sundalo (I really wanted to kill soldiers. I was running among the trees to hunt for them)," he said. He was talking about the clashes last year in Butig, where the Maute Group was able to raise the black flag of the Islamic State (ISIS). Three military offensives were launched there to flush them out. "Naubos ko pa mga bala ko sa unang giyera. Sobra. te. Sabi ko, mamatay ako sa giyera na ito at mapunta na ako sa langit. Kung mamatay sa giyera, kukunin ka ni Allah (I emptied my magazine in my first battle. It was intense. I told myself, 'I will die in this war and I will go to heaven.' If I die in the battlefield, Allah will welcome me to heaven)," he said. "Ready talaga ako mamatay, 'te. Kapag pumutok ang kanyon at ang mga eroplano dumating, hindi talaga ako magtago (I was ready to die. If the cannons were fired and if the planes came, I really wouldn't hide)," he added. The boy didn't die in the wars in Butig. He didn't kill any soldier either. He didn't get the chance to master his marksmanship. And then something happened that changed his life and made him realize the teachings were wrong. We are withholding these details to protect his identity. Today the boy said he still reads the Koran on his own. "Magbasa ako ng Koran. Pakiramdam ko 'te parang magaan (I read the Koran and when I do, I feel much better)," he said. He hears the clashes in Butig and he knows some of his friends are fighting to get to heaven. "Maling-mali talaga, 'te (It's really wrong)," he said. The military was surprised by the Maute Group's resistance in Marawi City because bandits usually run to the mountains and escape when confronted with heavy artillery. The clash is now on its 4th week and the fighters are still holding out. If they were trained like the young boy, it means they are all ready to kill and they are all ready to die. – Rappler.com What must be done to stop this madness? Muslim people are not to be blamed, even the "Koran" (is this right?) is not to be blamed too, the ones to be blamed are those leaders which have corrupt minds and are using religion to mask the truth that they just want to wreak havoc. A leader can influence many people, they have the power to brainwash others. Children are innocent looking and true they are a great use in war because of their innocent face, but it is devilish to bring children in a war. To stop this we need to understand what's the purpose of the ISIS? Any problem can be solve by speaking and communicating with each other. We can hear their demands and give them want they want but with limitations. We can give them anything they want but we can't give them the power to rule the world. For me ISIS have something they want the world to realize. I am not saying that we should be one and i am not pro ISIS, but i think it's a good idea to hear them out. They will not fight harshly if they didn't get ignored. I hate ISIS for what they are and what they have done, but to exterminate something we first need to know what they are, what is their purpose and understand them. I know it is not clear as water but the more we fight ISIS the more they get devilish, so why not hear them out? In conclusion i am not pro ISIS, as i have said earlier. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Labay on August 09, 2017, 04:40:57 AM Its terrible to see that because its an isis vindicated happening in the country. To teach a kid like that to become terrorist is dangerous because to fight fight fight. So the government will work for this. some kid do blind in money, the kid can get by using money and goods. some kid must more idolism the terrorist than government because the terrorist gave money to the young age that why they can easy recruit some child. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Senkuli on August 09, 2017, 04:49:43 AM Came upon an article while browsing FB. I knew from the title that it's gonna anger me and indeed, it was blood-curdling. I strongly disagree when recruiting soldiers from children, and the coincidence of Islam.http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/172587-maute-child-soldiers-marawi Quote MARAWI CITY, Philippines – A few years ago, a young boy overheard Cayamora and Farhana Maute talking to his parents about him. The parents of the notorious Maute brothers, responsible for the raging battles in Marawi City, were offering to make him study the Koran. It was a privilege a poor family would not pass up, especially if the offer came from such a respected clan. In the absence of formal schooling, it's common practice in communities here to organize Arabic and Islamic studies for children. “Pangarap ng pamilya ko makapag-aral ako ng Koran (It is my family's dream to make me study the Koran),” said the boy, now in his teens. What is not clear is if his parents were also given monetary assistance. The boy found himself relocating a few years back to the faraway town of Butig, some 50 road kilometers away from Marawi City, where he diligently learned the Koran. But a month into the lessons, they gave him a rifle and taught him how to kill. "Lahat daw ng Christian sa buong mundo, patayin daw, 'te (They said all the Christians in the world must die)," he said. The boy did not know about the Mautes' links to the international terrorist network Islamic State (ISIS) or anything about establishing a caliphate in Mindanao, which, according to the military, was the "grand plan" of the Maute Group. He was told it was his specific duty to kill government soldiers. "Tinuruan ako mag-patay ng tao. Kung di ko siya patayin, ako ang mamamatay. Ako naunahan ba (They taught me how to kill people. If I don't kill, I will die. They will kill me first)," he said. He was once a child soldier fighting alongside the Maute brothers in his not so distant past. If he had stayed with the Mautes, he could be fighting in Marawi today, if not be dead already, he said. When he was in Butig, he did not question the teachings. Not even in his mind. "Naniwala kami din, 'te, mga dalawang taon na 'te. Naniwala talaga 'te (I really did believe them for two years. I really believed)," he said. His singular dream was to go to heaven and he was taught dying in battle was the way this could happen. "Gusto ko talaga magpakamatay (I wanted to die for the cause)," he said. Indeed, the boy recalled being happy in Butig, where he lived in a big house. He was especially fond of riding the horses when they were on a break from studying. He mingled with the Maute children, including Omar and Abdullah, who would rise to international notoriety for the ongoing siege in Marawi City. “Masaya ang Butig. Masaya buhay ko sa Butig (I was happy in Butig. I had a good life there),” he said. To protect the boy, we agreed not to divulge his name and his personal details. We verified the boy's story about his stay in Butig – the hometown of Farhana Maute – by checking military reports too about the terrorist group's operations in Butig. Brainwashed The boy agreed to talk because he doesn’t want more children to be brainwashed by the likes of the Mautes to support a cause that he now says is “very wrong.” That the Maute Group used child soldiers is well reported. Rappler also obtained what appears to be propaganda videos of Filipino-looking children joining adult fighters carrying the ISIS black flag. A high-ranking military officer who operated in Butig confirmed the video was shot in the area. The same officer provided an old photo of child soldiers recovered last year in one military operation in Butig, Farhana's hometown. The boy said he was told it's what Allah wanted him to become. "Sabihin nila, magka-edad ka na. Tapos ito gawin mo. 'Yan ang sinusundan natin dito sa Koran. Utos ng Allah (They say, you are growing up. This is what you should do. This is what we should follow, according to the Koran. It is what Allah wants us to do)," the boy recalled. He was the perfect soldier. There's nothing like the misinformed courage of a child. "Gusto ko talagang patayin ang mga sundalo. Nagtatatakbo ako sa mga puno para maghanap ng sundalo (I really wanted to kill soldiers. I was running among the trees to hunt for them)," he said. He was talking about the clashes last year in Butig, where the Maute Group was able to raise the black flag of the Islamic State (ISIS). Three military offensives were launched there to flush them out. "Naubos ko pa mga bala ko sa unang giyera. Sobra. te. Sabi ko, mamatay ako sa giyera na ito at mapunta na ako sa langit. Kung mamatay sa giyera, kukunin ka ni Allah (I emptied my magazine in my first battle. It was intense. I told myself, 'I will die in this war and I will go to heaven.' If I die in the battlefield, Allah will welcome me to heaven)," he said. "Ready talaga ako mamatay, 'te. Kapag pumutok ang kanyon at ang mga eroplano dumating, hindi talaga ako magtago (I was ready to die. If the cannons were fired and if the planes came, I really wouldn't hide)," he added. The boy didn't die in the wars in Butig. He didn't kill any soldier either. He didn't get the chance to master his marksmanship. And then something happened that changed his life and made him realize the teachings were wrong. We are withholding these details to protect his identity. Today the boy said he still reads the Koran on his own. "Magbasa ako ng Koran. Pakiramdam ko 'te parang magaan (I read the Koran and when I do, I feel much better)," he said. He hears the clashes in Butig and he knows some of his friends are fighting to get to heaven. "Maling-mali talaga, 'te (It's really wrong)," he said. The military was surprised by the Maute Group's resistance in Marawi City because bandits usually run to the mountains and escape when confronted with heavy artillery. The clash is now on its 4th week and the fighters are still holding out. If they were trained like the young boy, it means they are all ready to kill and they are all ready to die. – Rappler.com What must be done to stop this madness? Whatever it is I strongly disagree with the existence of terrorism in this world, disrupt the world's tranquility, disrupt the security of the world community as well. Too many people possess the wealth and power of exploiting a mob to form army or security forces according to their will not only in the name of religions such as mobsters, gangsters, and various other organizations just for the sake of power. In the end the formation of troops only spread terrorism, committed human rights abuses and made the world unsafe again. Therefore we must provide religious education is also a good knowledge so that our children are not falling and easily influenced by something that is in the name of religion or organization that is not true. We must also support the government and its apparatus to crack down on all forms of terrorism as well as to oversee the activities of the organization in the territory of the state. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on August 09, 2017, 05:00:38 AM maybe ISIS has secret agenda on why they are using their religion on their act of terrorism and forces many people to convert to their religion so that they will not be killed. It is understandable. The ISIS claims that they are following the purest form of Islam. As per the Quran and the Hadiths, the infidels living in a Muslim majority nation are having three choices: 1. Immigrate to a non-Muslim nation 2. Convert to Islam 3. Pay the Jizya tax Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: twingotape on August 09, 2017, 07:26:03 AM A Muslim is someone who follows or practices Islam, a monotheistic Abrahamic religion. Muslims consider the Quran (Koran), their holy book, to be the verbatim word of God as revealed to the Islamic prophet and messenger Muhammad. accndg to Wikipedia
But sometimes there are people using it for their own interest. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Prem.Soorajpaul on August 09, 2017, 01:51:09 PM As long as they are Muslim children, I don't have an issue. But I heard that in Syria and Iraq, they are abducting Yazidi and Christian children, and forcing hem to become suicide bombers.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: eagleman on August 09, 2017, 10:49:34 PM The irony is there, the religion of peace. Yeah they want peace as they are teaching and treating these youngsters as they future soldiers.
Soldiers for what? Fighting for what? I don't even know what they are fighting for. Poor young ones. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on August 10, 2017, 11:36:39 AM The irony is there, the religion of peace. Yeah they want peace as they are teaching and treating these youngsters as they future soldiers. Soldiers for what? Fighting for what? I don't even know what they are fighting for. Poor young ones. They claim that there will be peace, once the nation becomes 100% Muslim. But all I am seeing is evidence to the contrary. There are 100% Muslim nations such as Yemen, Afghanistan, and Sudan. But none of them are peaceful. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: The_prodigy on August 10, 2017, 11:59:20 AM Came upon an article while browsing FB. I knew from the title that it's gonna anger me and indeed, it was blood-curdling. http://www.rappler.com/newsbreak/in-depth/172587-maute-child-soldiers-marawi Quote MARAWI CITY, Philippines – A few years ago, a young boy overheard Cayamora and Farhana Maute talking to his parents about him. The parents of the notorious Maute brothers, responsible for the raging battles in Marawi City, were offering to make him study the Koran. It was a privilege a poor family would not pass up, especially if the offer came from such a respected clan. In the absence of formal schooling, it's common practice in communities here to organize Arabic and Islamic studies for children. “Pangarap ng pamilya ko makapag-aral ako ng Koran (It is my family's dream to make me study the Koran),” said the boy, now in his teens. What is not clear is if his parents were also given monetary assistance. The boy found himself relocating a few years back to the faraway town of Butig, some 50 road kilometers away from Marawi City, where he diligently learned the Koran. But a month into the lessons, they gave him a rifle and taught him how to kill. "Lahat daw ng Christian sa buong mundo, patayin daw, 'te (They said all the Christians in the world must die)," he said. The boy did not know about the Mautes' links to the international terrorist network Islamic State (ISIS) or anything about establishing a caliphate in Mindanao, which, according to the military, was the "grand plan" of the Maute Group. He was told it was his specific duty to kill government soldiers. "Tinuruan ako mag-patay ng tao. Kung di ko siya patayin, ako ang mamamatay. Ako naunahan ba (They taught me how to kill people. If I don't kill, I will die. They will kill me first)," he said. He was once a child soldier fighting alongside the Maute brothers in his not so distant past. If he had stayed with the Mautes, he could be fighting in Marawi today, if not be dead already, he said. When he was in Butig, he did not question the teachings. Not even in his mind. "Naniwala kami din, 'te, mga dalawang taon na 'te. Naniwala talaga 'te (I really did believe them for two years. I really believed)," he said. His singular dream was to go to heaven and he was taught dying in battle was the way this could happen. "Gusto ko talaga magpakamatay (I wanted to die for the cause)," he said. Indeed, the boy recalled being happy in Butig, where he lived in a big house. He was especially fond of riding the horses when they were on a break from studying. He mingled with the Maute children, including Omar and Abdullah, who would rise to international notoriety for the ongoing siege in Marawi City. “Masaya ang Butig. Masaya buhay ko sa Butig (I was happy in Butig. I had a good life there),” he said. To protect the boy, we agreed not to divulge his name and his personal details. We verified the boy's story about his stay in Butig – the hometown of Farhana Maute – by checking military reports too about the terrorist group's operations in Butig. Brainwashed The boy agreed to talk because he doesn’t want more children to be brainwashed by the likes of the Mautes to support a cause that he now says is “very wrong.” That the Maute Group used child soldiers is well reported. Rappler also obtained what appears to be propaganda videos of Filipino-looking children joining adult fighters carrying the ISIS black flag. A high-ranking military officer who operated in Butig confirmed the video was shot in the area. The same officer provided an old photo of child soldiers recovered last year in one military operation in Butig, Farhana's hometown. The boy said he was told it's what Allah wanted him to become. "Sabihin nila, magka-edad ka na. Tapos ito gawin mo. 'Yan ang sinusundan natin dito sa Koran. Utos ng Allah (They say, you are growing up. This is what you should do. This is what we should follow, according to the Koran. It is what Allah wants us to do)," the boy recalled. He was the perfect soldier. There's nothing like the misinformed courage of a child. "Gusto ko talagang patayin ang mga sundalo. Nagtatatakbo ako sa mga puno para maghanap ng sundalo (I really wanted to kill soldiers. I was running among the trees to hunt for them)," he said. He was talking about the clashes last year in Butig, where the Maute Group was able to raise the black flag of the Islamic State (ISIS). Three military offensives were launched there to flush them out. "Naubos ko pa mga bala ko sa unang giyera. Sobra. te. Sabi ko, mamatay ako sa giyera na ito at mapunta na ako sa langit. Kung mamatay sa giyera, kukunin ka ni Allah (I emptied my magazine in my first battle. It was intense. I told myself, 'I will die in this war and I will go to heaven.' If I die in the battlefield, Allah will welcome me to heaven)," he said. "Ready talaga ako mamatay, 'te. Kapag pumutok ang kanyon at ang mga eroplano dumating, hindi talaga ako magtago (I was ready to die. If the cannons were fired and if the planes came, I really wouldn't hide)," he added. The boy didn't die in the wars in Butig. He didn't kill any soldier either. He didn't get the chance to master his marksmanship. And then something happened that changed his life and made him realize the teachings were wrong. We are withholding these details to protect his identity. Today the boy said he still reads the Koran on his own. "Magbasa ako ng Koran. Pakiramdam ko 'te parang magaan (I read the Koran and when I do, I feel much better)," he said. He hears the clashes in Butig and he knows some of his friends are fighting to get to heaven. "Maling-mali talaga, 'te (It's really wrong)," he said. The military was surprised by the Maute Group's resistance in Marawi City because bandits usually run to the mountains and escape when confronted with heavy artillery. The clash is now on its 4th week and the fighters are still holding out. If they were trained like the young boy, it means they are all ready to kill and they are all ready to die. – Rappler.com What must be done to stop this madness? I think this is the cold blooded reality in war even the children gets involved whether through collateral damage or just being soldiers and pawns in useless terror and fighting. Even in syria not just in marawi. Rebels and terrorists or some other factions recruit children soldiers to bolster their numbers or hope that the enemy would not fight young children. This is very sad indeed and a bery alarming aituation. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: carlisle1 on August 10, 2017, 12:20:08 PM The irony is there, the religion of peace. Yeah they want peace as they are teaching and treating these youngsters as they future soldiers. Soldiers for what? Fighting for what? I don't even know what they are fighting for. Poor young ones. They claim that there will be peace, once the nation becomes 100% Muslim. But all I am seeing is evidence to the contrary. There are 100% Muslim nations such as Yemen, Afghanistan, and Sudan. But none of them are peaceful. Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: mvidetto on August 10, 2017, 12:35:57 PM A lot of problems with Philippines right now besides a conflict in Marawi city. Drug violence and communist rebels as well.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: foreverpattlys on August 10, 2017, 07:01:16 PM I feel really bad that they will grow with hate and that may be transmitted to their next generations.
Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: hovrah on August 10, 2017, 07:38:19 PM I feel really bad that they will grow with hate and that may be transmitted to their next generations. It has always been and will be. Children always like a sponge Absorbs the whole negative and very few people remember good. Thus, perhaps we ourselves generate evil, not knowing what we are doing.Title: Re: Muslim child soldiers in Philippines. Post by: Sithara007 on August 11, 2017, 05:40:30 AM I feel really bad that they will grow with hate and that may be transmitted to their next generations. It is a 1,300 year old ideology. Ever since its inception, it has been expanding with the use of warfare, genocide and terrorism. Can you name a single nation, which became Muslim majority without the use of violence? |
