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Leo Varadkar has made history in Ireland by becoming the country’s first openly gay prime minister, as well as the youngest

Leo Varadkar was formally elected taoiseach at a confirmation ceremony in the Dáil in Dublin yesterday after winning the Fine Gael party leadership earlier this month.

The former GP and son of an Indian father and Irish mother, won the vote by 57 votes to 50, with 47 abstaining. His parents Ashok and Miriam were present to see him receive his seal of office. The couple met when they worked in an English hospital in the 1960s.

Varadkar’s partner, Matthew Barrett, who is a doctor, was also watching. Varadkar came out as gay shortly before the 2015 same-sex marriage referendum in Ireland during an interview with RTÉ, Ireland’s national television broadcaster.

https://www.positive.news/2017/archive/27532/irelands-first-gay-prime-minister-formally-elected/


I think this is a big deal for the once Catholic Republic of Ireland. But times are changing now. And people are not defined by their sexuality.

 :o :o :o :o

Really?:o

This world is lost, the world is definitely lost


Now gays are taking over very easily and without fear

So you know all people living in Africa?

Are you saying you have to kill children and people who have never hurt anyone just because they were born in Africa?

Dude, you're scary.

Are you saying you have to kill gays

Dude, you're scary...

AFRICA   GAYS   same same why you say?

What as an unknown African done to me nothing .
what as an unknown gay done to me nothing .

22 Feb 2014 - ... new anti-gay laws, Africa Correspondent David Smith reports on a continent at ... Same-sex relations are illegal in 36 of Africa's 55 countries,

people who have never hurt anyone just because they were born in Africa?..
I think it's AFRICA who hurts themselves in this day and age .. :'(

One of the last remaining Catholic strongholds in the world electing a non-white homosexual as the Prime Minister. Catholicism is decaying. No wonder that Islam is taking over the world.

It's very interesting news, really.
Ireland is very conservative, catholic country, so I really was shocked with this news.
Just yesterday, another traditional and conservative, orthodox country got a first lesbian prime minister in the history, Serbia.
It become new trend now :)
Still, in my opinion, their political program and personal character should be more important then their sexual orientation.

agree with that,people lost their mind,i really suprise when read this statement,and i can't imagine how the world become if they (LGBT) can easily tke over the world,how can they have a child? seriously we broke nature rules if this continues. :o
i'm respect for they who decide to declare that they lgbt,but its not good if they declare to lead and invite other people for support them.

In the British Parliament the largest number of gays in the world. Externally, Britain seems to be a stronghold of conservatism in the world, but it is not. I am opposed to same-sex relationships. People at home can do anything, it is their right, but to show it to people I do not accept.

Lol... Britain as a stronghold of conservatism? From where did you got that idea? A country which is having one of the highest rates of inter-racial marriage and political correctness must be described as the most liberal country in the world.

Well that took guts. I suppose it's not as conservative as countries in Asia but Ireland seem to still be conservative by European standards. He could have lost supporters for what he did.


Normally I would agree with you but are you suggesting that people be discriminated for their skin color or sexuality? I don't care how much melanin they have on their skin or where they put their junk (if even), what I would care is if they are competent. People should be free to participate in society so long as they don't step on other people's rights.

This is a good read. Ireland is indeed conservative by their catholic faith. But whom are they to judge? It might a big deal. But practices now are also changing, We couldn't stick to what is written in the bible. The thing is people are now beginning to be open their minds in this kind of issues and starting to adapt with it.
This is absurd. The world is not lost because of Gays taking over. So what if they are increasing in numbers do they not make good contributions and when you are Gay this means your're disgrace?  If you may can you enlighten me on why you come out with this conclusion?

Everytime I think we reach a new low, there is another thread on this forum that make me lose even more faith in humanity...

SO

It's perfectly OK to elect bandits with so many accusations of corruption and thefts that you might wonder how they manage to walk free, but not OK to elect someone who's gay?

So for all of you what's important isn't his program, his ideas, his propositions, but the mere fact that he seems to enjoy sex with men? That's what really bothers you?

And you wonder why the "world is doomed" as you say...
Just look at a mirror and you'll see exactly why the world is becomming shittier every day...

Gays rule the world and even religion can not do anything anymore ;D

It seems to me that tolerance will destroy Western society. This applies not only to gays, but also many other aspects of our lives. From death to politics with the migrants. Perhaps the time has come to rethink Western values.

If his sexuality does not matter, why do you open this topic about his sexuality?

I'm totally with you here. I don't give a sh*t about what a politician does in his/her personal life if he/she has a good program and plans to make my life better and easier.

It doesn't really matter as long as he's doing his job correctly and just he'll be fine. There's nothing wrong with being a gay minister, I think that's superb, gorgeous! and gays can always be smart and wise, they are still human being, if he deserves to be there then he deserves it, there's nothing wrong with it, please let equality enter this planet. Equality to gay, lesbians and transgenders.

First the USA legalizes Homosexuality and now this, damn this is just too much, the world is definitely going to the dogs. The end is imminent now and am scared. If one is able to make a horrible mistake of being gay, then i shudder to think of his decisions for the welfare of the country.

Oh please just kill yourself already.
You're a shame to the very idea of human being.

One doesn not CHOSE to be gay. Do you chose to prefer chocolate over strawberry? Did you chose to love your wife? I bet she didn't chose to love you otherwise she wouldn't have made such a stupid mistake.
Tastes, love, affection... They're feelings, they aren't controlled they impose themselves to us.

Only a monster would deny his own real feelings, gays are gays by nature and that's all.

Well, that's a rather succinct comeback.  :D


Yes. Why would anyone choose to be shunned by a conservative society, to estrange their family, and to be alone? I really don't understand some people's logic. It's like saying all gays are masochists who gladly chose to go against the norm and suffer for it.

You can not allow them to be equal, because they are their propaganda of homosexuality will destroy the planet. Two same-sex people can not give birth to a child and the whole planet will die out. There should be people with a traditional orientation in politics, because they are an example for the whole country and even for the world.

We don't know much about his policies regarding the LGBTs. His homosexual orientation may or may not influence his policy on the LGBTs. That said, I don't think that it is a threat to the humanity that a few people chose the homosexual way of life. The world is already over-populated, and it will be great if the population is reduced.

The population is already shrinking due to illnesses, wars, murders, natural disasters, but it will not be right to reduce the number of people with homosexual relationships. I would not want my children to be homosexual and my family ended up on them.

No. The population is not shrinking, at least not in Ireland. Last year (2016), there were a total of 63,897 births and 30,390 deaths there. As you can see, the population is naturally growing, and the total number of births is more than double the number of deaths. In the long-term, the population is likely to shrink due to the low fertility rates, but right now Ireland is experiencing a population boom.

But in other countries the death rate exceeds the birth rate, for example in Ukraine, and this will gradually lead to a balance of population throughout the world. It's just that you need to advertise more conduc- tion and a conscious birth of children, rather than homosexuality.

I guess that in Ukraine less than 1% of the population is homosexual. But the birth rate there is extremely low (around 1.3 children per couple) when compared to nations with very large homosexual populations. Up to 5% of the population is homosexual in countries such as France. Even then the birth rates in France are 50% more than that in Ukraine.

Ever heard of surrogates? If the only problem is keeping population up (humans are quite good at this) then they can just make a law legalizing surrogacy. I bet you'd see gays availing that. Lesbians have it easier, then can just get a sperm injection. Many homo couples do want to have kids and they're adopting - adopting babies that straight people are throwing away.

Europe is having a declining birth rate because people just prefer having small families. They can hump all they want and have 20 kids like some people in the Middle East or Africa but they don't want to.

That's interesting. Is he the first openly gay prime minister/president of the world too?

Surrogacy is getting more and more difficult nowadays. Recently surrogacy was outlawed for foreigners in India. Many other third world nations are also following this example. Right now it is legal only in a select few countries, such as Georgia and Ukraine.

What really matters is the capability of that person to rule rather than its sexual preference. In leadership, it sees no gender to rule since it is not all about that. If we are not the people who are going a big fuss about gender then we can see that there is nothing unusual really if people beloeve on him that he can lead them for greater prosperity then so be it.

I'm against gays taking over this world and adopting children. Children want to be normal and grow up in full-fledged families. You can not let gays run the world >:(

Well surrogacy is an interesting topic. Third world countries are probably banning it because they feel their people are being exploited. But then again, if a woman wants to bear child for someone else, that's her decision. Assuming the woman is not loaded with harmful substances, it's a mutually beneficial agreement. The woman get the money she need to start her way out of poverty, and the couple get to start their own family.

Surrogate motherhood is not correct, the child should have normal parents. If gays want to have a child, then they can be treated and create a normal family in which they can give birth to a child naturally.

It shouldn't be at the expense of other people's well-being. It is something that really needs a deeper discussion. I remember seeing news of straight couples before that would ask relatives and friends to act as surrogates for them. That might be a better way than paying women in third-world countries though there maybe problems of their own, since the egg/sperm donor is known.

Maybe go buy some eggs/sperm from a bank, and then IVF a relative? I guess that would be better since the donor is anonymous but the surrogate is someone you know and wouldn't exploit.


There can be arrangements for that. Of course the problem would be the biological parent possibly meddling with the way you raise your child. Just look at separated straight couples.

There is no way this will not go round the whole world where people see beyond the issue of person feelings and focus on what really matters which is competence and this is where some developing and third world countries are getting it wrong. I am sure jf it were to be those countries I made reference to people like Leo Varadkar or the new prime minster in France will not even have the opportunity to taste power.

Don't really know why this stuff is hitting the news but I'll chime in. I think people who are gay should be equal and shouldn't have any sort of problem with stuff like this, what they want to conduct with their sexual / romantic life. It shouldn't affect their life out of the bedroom and I'd expect people who are normal to respect this decision of theirs to the highest degree. I hope that this guy does a wonderful job, and I hope people don't involve his sexual life into anything that he does.

There is nothing wrong with surrogate motherhood, but it is the upbringing which matter. Even a lot of heterosexual couples are having surrogate babies nowadays. But the gay lifestyle can be harmful for the kids. There is a high chance of sex abuse and drug addiction.

Perhaps he can participate in politics only to talk about his sexual orientation is not necessary and do not need to promote homosexual relationships.

I am sure this is the end of Ireland because gay,black,and generally different people are totally inferiors.We should one day ignore the xenophobia and overcome our fears.This the only way for a healthy and equal society.

It is disgusting to sell their children through surrogate motherhood, donation of eggs and donation of sperm. Adult children do not sell, but on their cages or only newborns want to earn money. This is degradation and I do not support such a scheme. Childless couples with traditional sexual orientation need to undergo treatment for infertility or can adopt orphans.

That was very unusual but you can't blame the people who voted her/him. Maybe he or she is their country's  last resort. Damn I'm so confused how to address cross gender my bad.

I don't find anything wrong with surrogacy. It is a mutually beneficial agreement. Rich westerners can have children despite their medical conditions, and at the same time poor women living in the third world nations can benefit out of it financially. Surrogacy was legal in my country until 2015. But the government banned it claiming that the women are being exploited.

What a bummer...

If I'm not allowed to Hate/Fear people who are different than me... who am I supposed to Hate/Fear then?

How can you sell a piece of yourself? After all, trafficking in people is illegal. So why is it allowed to sell unborn children yet? In addition, a woman bearing a child is inflicted enormous harm to her body which is not worth any money. In addition, such children will be weak and more likely to get sick. This is a very dirty business.

There is no evidence to prove that surrogacy is harmful either for the mother or the baby. Most of the babies are healthy and they face no long-term health complications. And in countries where the average salary is like $1,000 per year, a one time payment of $20,000 or $25,000 can go a long way in eradicating poverty.

Wow, this is like a joke. It's interesting how he was able to win, i wish he only has a responsible role, even if people don't like him.

Yeah, we've got a gay(lesbian) primeminister aswell and to be honest, I don't care if that person was a transformers ninja turtle as long as he does a good job he's assigned to.

It is true that time is changing and conservative outlook is going out.  So it is not a question whatever the leader sex orientation is, the question is how he can serve his countrymen and his country effectively.  This Ireland leader has both sides, the female and the male.  And we know that gay people are so good in leadership and money thing.  I believe he can lead his country very well, they are also so loving and caring.  We have here in our country a transgender congresswoman and gained recognition for her leadership.

There are negative effects, it is simply not profitable to spread information about them. In the first place, there is a psychological trauma of a mother's break with a child. At the physical level, the implantation of foreign embryos in the mother's body also has a negative effect and very often these rudiments can not take root in a foreign organism. In addition, this affects karma not in the best way. The economy needs to be improved in other ways, and not by this dirty business.

You can't just make up bullshit and expect people to believe it

Do you have a scientific study you can link which corroborates your claims?  No?  I didn't think so

Karma?  Really?  Karma?!?

ROFL

Get over yourself dude... you're a hateful bigot... someone who hates gays for no reason... you literally have NO reason to hate them... YOU cannot even come up with a legitimate reason for your hatred

I do not do scientific research, but they are engaged in scientists.
To prove the existence of karma and harm to surrogate motherhood is useless. While a person does not want to hear the truth, millions of scientific research and practical facts will not help him.
Who said that I hate gays? I treat them neutrally, but I want to help them heal from error because I am cured of it myself.

It is clear you hate gays because you think they have a problem that needs to be cured (look up the definition of bigot)

You might as well hate left-handed people or vegetarians, and think they need to be cured... it doesn't make sense to say someone "needs to be cured", when they are not ill

Alan Turing was gay, and he cracked the Enigma code... if not for him, Hitler would have won WW2, and we would all be Nazi's speaking German
You can thank Alan Turing for your Freedom, a gay man saved you from being killed/conquered by Nazi's
Alan Turing also invented the computer... if not for Alan Turing, you would not be on your computer on this forum at all

What is wrong with being gay that needs to be cured?  What is wrong with being left-handed?

You can talk like this because most probably you hail from a developed nation and you can find a job quite easily. But think about those uneducated women in the third world countries. Most of the times, they have very few choices to earn a living. And for them, surrogacy is a better option when compared to prostitution and robbery.

What is the big deal with it? for as long as he does his job as a prime minister, then there is no problem.

It's best to see what could happen when he is formally working as a prime minister. For the concern of religion, it's already there, and I think they won't do something about it and just voice out some things if there are unjust causes. I just hope that he does not influence the young and let the people lead their own way to discover themselves.

This is not hatred or even the imposition of help in curing, but simply expressing one's opinion. Many people live in delusion and get physical pleasure from homosexual relationships. Once I treated them. Everyone chooses which way to go.
Gays do not have a full-fledged exchange of energy with a partner, and only its loss occurs. Of course, this can not be treated like many other diseases. It makes no sense to convince a person of the opposite so long as he does not want to admit the truth.
And what for to treat left-handed people? They are normal people, just have a lot of activity with the other hand.

I am now without work, I have no higher education, my country has a bad economic situation, but I do not go down to such a level to engage in prostitution or surrogate motherhood. Everything depends on the spiritual level of development and human morality. It is better to collect small pennies on non-regular part-time jobs than to fall face to face in the mud.