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Title: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: xfaqs01 on June 17, 2017, 05:44:36 AM
hi guys i just want to know what are your thoughts about the upcoming bitcoin forking this coming august 1?
ano kaya sa tingin nyu mang yayari sa bitcoin at ano magiging epekto nito sa value at trading economy?


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: bitcoin31 on June 17, 2017, 07:22:40 AM
Hindi natin ang alam kung anong mangyayari sa august 1 sa darating na bitcoin fork. Pwede siyang tumaas siguro pwede rin naman siyang bumababa siguro. Hindi natin alam kung ano ang magiging epekto nito.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: nappoleon on June 17, 2017, 08:15:31 AM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: ecnalubma on June 17, 2017, 09:39:58 AM
dalawa lang ang mangyayari dyan its either advantage or disadvantage. But I think it will create a positive effect in bitcoin ecosystem.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Jorosss on June 17, 2017, 10:13:13 AM
mahirap mg conclude sa mga gnyan, my chance na tumaas ung value nya or bumaba.
antayin na lang natin sa august 1. sana good news :D


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Seeker01 on June 17, 2017, 10:39:05 AM
Mahirap iforecast kung ano ba talaga ang mangyayare sa august 1 its either bumaba ang presyo ng btc or lalo itong tumaas pero syempre mukang malabo naman mawala ang btc kase dito nagsimula ang lahat at sa tingin ko naman is positive ang magiging result ng btc after ng segwit tiwala lang tayo.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: burner2014 on June 17, 2017, 11:38:06 AM
Mahirap iforecast kung ano ba talaga ang mangyayare sa august 1 its either bumaba ang presyo ng btc or lalo itong tumaas pero syempre mukang malabo naman mawala ang btc kase dito nagsimula ang lahat at sa tingin ko naman is positive ang magiging result ng btc after ng segwit tiwala lang tayo.
Oo nga eh hirap talagang iforecast yan pero sa tingin ko naman po ay lalaki siya kasi may isang campaign na nagbaba ng presyo ng bayad baka nga tataas siya, let's pray guys na sana tumaas para happy happy at tiba tiba ang lahat, kaya yong mga may bitcoin diyan hold lang po muna baka may good news.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: merchantofzeny on June 17, 2017, 04:39:12 PM
Ito ba yung reason kung bakit bumaba yung palitan? Kasi last time mga around 150k diba, ngayon 130k na lang. Ewan ba, napasok lang naman ako dito para sa tubo, ni wala nga akong software wallet, sa exchange lang nakatago. May news ba kung tatanggap si coins.ph ng ibang coins kung magsplit? Ano ba yung maiiwang original na btc?


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: xfaqs01 on June 18, 2017, 01:20:11 AM
Ito ba yung reason kung bakit bumaba yung palitan? Kasi last time mga around 150k diba, ngayon 130k na lang. Ewan ba, napasok lang naman ako dito para sa tubo, ni wala nga akong software wallet, sa exchange lang nakatago. May news ba kung tatanggap si coins.ph ng ibang coins kung magsplit? Ano ba yung maiiwang original na btc?
Its one of the reason sir sa tingin ko and because of some speculation
That the forking will bring a negative impact to the community, pero yung iba nag dump because qouta na sila sa target percentage increase nila sa trading, kaya din bumaba, pero may mha abangers eh pag baba dami din buyers sinamantala ka madali ding nakakarecover


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: xfaqs01 on June 18, 2017, 01:34:57 AM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.

After hard fork daw kc ang btc ay mag e.split into two separate blockchains and two different coins will be created daw
I just read an article says
"you can expect one of three scenarios after hard fork
1. All of your coins will become BTC only
2. All of your coins will become BTU only.
3. Your coins will be doubled, so if you had 2 coins before the fork occurs, you will have 2 BTC and 2 BTU after forking is completed."
So ang community ma didivide daw, one supporting btc the other supporting btu, ang bad news mga supporter ng btu na bih whales pag nah dump sila ng btc, may whale na nag hohold
Ng 300k btc, pag yun nag dump bababa po ang btc


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: hawthelegend on June 18, 2017, 01:41:15 AM
You know what op, nothing really is for sure when it comes to crypto currencies. Coz it really is kinda random. A lot can really happen that can affecy its price. But for me, i think that after the segwit has happened, and the price of the bitcoin currency gets lower than usual, then we can probably expect a dramatic rise in the price of bitcoins after some time.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Cloud27 on June 18, 2017, 01:58:40 AM
Hirap intindihin ng forking pag newbie ka. pareho ba ito ng nangyari sa ethereum at ethereum classic?


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: xfaqs01 on June 18, 2017, 02:19:41 AM
Hirap intindihin ng forking pag newbie ka. pareho ba ito ng nangyari sa ethereum at ethereum classic?
Iba po yun sa etherium at eth classic boss magkaiba talaga developer
Nang dalawa, ang forking po pagkaalam ko sa mababaw na salita ibig sabihin ay software upgrade ng blockchain in bitcoin


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Lenzie on June 18, 2017, 02:35:59 AM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.

Ano po ba yung Segwit sir? Ano po yung relevance niya sa forking? Thank you sir.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Astvile on June 18, 2017, 02:49:53 AM
Ako mismo di ko din alam tong bitcoin fork ma malapit na daw maganap pero may mga nabasa ako na thread at article na maari daw mawala ang bitcoins natin o mareplace ng fork ng bitcoins i dont know if this is true paki turo naman po


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: zupdawg on June 18, 2017, 03:16:13 AM
Ako mismo di ko din alam tong bitcoin fork ma malapit na daw maganap pero may mga nabasa ako na thread at article na maari daw mawala ang bitcoins natin o mareplace ng fork ng bitcoins i dont know if this is true paki turo naman po

hindi mawawala kapag nasa address na control mo ang private key kaya ilipat mo bago ang hard fork, kapag nasa sariling address mo na magkakaroon ka ng coins sa dalawang chain, yung isa daw dun magiging alt coin so prang free hehe


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Cloud27 on June 18, 2017, 03:23:08 AM
Meron bang epekto sa current bitcoin mining or ma iiba ang mining nito?


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Experia on June 18, 2017, 03:24:43 AM
Meron bang epekto sa current bitcoin mining or ma iiba ang mining nito?

di ko sigurado ha pero sa tingin ko lang depende yan sa miner kung saan sila mag tutok ng hashing power nila kaya sa huli isang chain pa din ang mananalo, depende yata kung anong chain ang papatok.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: nappoleon on June 18, 2017, 11:00:31 AM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.

After hard fork daw kc ang btc ay mag e.split into two separate blockchains and two different coins will be created daw
I just read an article says
"you can expect one of three scenarios after hard fork
1. All of your coins will become BTC only
2. All of your coins will become BTU only.
3. Your coins will be doubled, so if you had 2 coins before the fork occurs, you will have 2 BTC and 2 BTU after forking is completed."
So ang community ma didivide daw, one supporting btc the other supporting btu, ang bad news mga supporter ng btu na bih whales pag nah dump sila ng btc, may whale na nag hohold
Ng 300k btc, pag yun nag dump bababa po ang btc


that's possible. First of all, hard fork will only occur when majority of miners don't signal for segwit before Aug. 1st as the non-segwit nodes will not be compatible with segwit of course hence - a possible chain split. I wouldn't call non-segwit chain BTU. it's just non-segwit chain.



Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: nappoleon on June 18, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.

Ano po ba yung Segwit sir? Ano po yung relevance niya sa forking? Thank you sir.

Currently, segwit is a softfork, that means, it wouldn't cause a chain split to implement unless participants won't accept it.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: restypots on June 18, 2017, 01:00:51 PM
definitely during auhust 1 may lalabas nman yan sa mga news kahit sa twitter kung tumaas nga ba ang pinaka value o bumaba , kasi sobrang taas na din sa eth at altcoin maraming coin tumataas  at make sure na di nman bababa ng husto ang btc . kaso nga lang now medyo mababa di daw katulad dati na gaya sa mga bayaran ng campaign sa btc , saa altcoin ang matataas


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: 0t3p0t on June 18, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.

After hard fork daw kc ang btc ay mag e.split into two separate blockchains and two different coins will be created daw
I just read an article says
"you can expect one of three scenarios after hard fork
1. All of your coins will become BTC only
2. All of your coins will become BTU only.
3. Your coins will be doubled, so if you had 2 coins before the fork occurs, you will have 2 BTC and 2 BTU after forking is completed."
So ang community ma didivide daw, one supporting btc the other supporting btu, ang bad news mga supporter ng btu na bih whales pag nah dump sila ng btc, may whale na nag hohold
Ng 300k btc, pag yun nag dump bababa po ang btc


that's possible. First of all, hard fork will only occur when majority of miners don't signal for segwit before Aug. 1st as the non-segwit nodes will not be compatible with segwit of course hence - a possible chain split. I wouldn't call non-segwit chain BTU. it's just non-segwit chain.


Kakatakot naman kung talagang mangyayari yan. Ibig po bang sabihin eh back to zero yung galaw ng btc kapag nahati sa dalawang chain? Paano na po yung mga funds natin sa coins.ph? Posible po bang mawala yung mga nakabag na btc sa coins wallet natin kapag ganun? Sabi din kasi ng iba na much better to transfer funds sa hard wallet para daw po safe. Sa mga pros po dyan penge po ng advice ano dapat gawin kasi parang nakakakaba naman ang upcoming events ng btc. Balak ko pa naman iwithdraw yung funds ko o kaya iconvert to peso sa coins.ph mahirap na baka mamaya mawala pa ang pinaghirapan ko.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: zedsacs on June 18, 2017, 04:29:49 PM
Sa akin lang ha, sa tingin ko siyempre ang pinakatatamaan niyang mangyayari sa agust 1 ay siyempre ewalang iba kundi yung prize itself. Its either tataas or baba pero more on tataas yan for sure kasi mahahati sa dalawa daw eh so meaning parang magseseperate na ata at magiging btc and yung isa btu. Correct me if im wrong


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: merchantofzeny on June 18, 2017, 05:20:01 PM
Ako mismo di ko din alam tong bitcoin fork ma malapit na daw maganap pero may mga nabasa ako na thread at article na maari daw mawala ang bitcoins natin o mareplace ng fork ng bitcoins i dont know if this is true paki turo naman po

hindi mawawala kapag nasa address na control mo ang private key kaya ilipat mo bago ang hard fork, kapag nasa sariling address mo na magkakaroon ka ng coins sa dalawang chain, yung isa daw dun magiging alt coin so prang free hehe

Kaya nga medyo kabado ako sir eh, wala akong software wallet, nasa coins.ph lang yung coins ko, hindi naman kasi sobrang dami pa. Bits nga lang kung tutuusin. Natatakot ako maglagay ng software wallet kasi yung nga, yung security. Wala naman dedicated pc na hindi mag-oonline, isa lang tong lp ko eh. Ganun nabasa ko sa mga threads dito.

Isa pa, di ako sure kung kailan bibigay tong lp, baka sumama lahat yung ipon ko kung sakali.  :'(


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: xfaqs01 on June 18, 2017, 10:40:14 PM

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Kakatakot naman kung talagang mangyayari yan. Ibig po bang sabihin eh back to zero yung galaw ng btc kapag nahati sa dalawang chain? Paano na po yung mga funds natin sa coins.ph? Posible po bang mawala yung mga nakabag na btc sa coins wallet natin kapag ganun? Sabi din kasi ng iba na much better to transfer funds sa hard wallet para daw po safe. Sa mga pros po dyan penge po ng advice ano dapat gawin kasi parang nakakakaba naman ang upcoming events ng btc. Balak ko pa naman iwithdraw yung funds ko o kaya iconvert to peso sa coins.ph mahirap na baka mamaya mawala pa ang pinaghirapan ko.
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Sabi ng mga sr. download kayu ng latest version bitcoin core sa bitcoin.org don nyu muna ilipat btc nyu were in controlado nyu ng private keys before aug1, f ala naman pwedi daw kau sa web base wallet namay private key using electrum running a full nodr para may control f sakali magkaroon ng coon split,
For more info paki check nalang po to usapan nila d2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1957511.0


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Naoko on June 19, 2017, 12:33:03 AM
Ako mismo di ko din alam tong bitcoin fork ma malapit na daw maganap pero may mga nabasa ako na thread at article na maari daw mawala ang bitcoins natin o mareplace ng fork ng bitcoins i dont know if this is true paki turo naman po

hindi mawawala kapag nasa address na control mo ang private key kaya ilipat mo bago ang hard fork, kapag nasa sariling address mo na magkakaroon ka ng coins sa dalawang chain, yung isa daw dun magiging alt coin so prang free hehe

Kaya nga medyo kabado ako sir eh, wala akong software wallet, nasa coins.ph lang yung coins ko, hindi naman kasi sobrang dami pa. Bits nga lang kung tutuusin. Natatakot ako maglagay ng software wallet kasi yung nga, yung security. Wala naman dedicated pc na hindi mag-oonline, isa lang tong lp ko eh. Ganun nabasa ko sa mga threads dito.

Isa pa, di ako sure kung kailan bibigay tong lp, baka sumama lahat yung ipon ko kung sakali.  :'(

wala naman problema kung mag download ka ng bitcoin core or electrum dyan sa lappy mo kahit pa malapit na sya bumigay, basta wag mo lang kalimutan mag back up ng private keys para nsayo pa din coins mo kahit ano mngyare.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: nappoleon on June 19, 2017, 05:01:06 AM
Segwit first, then maybe we can do bigger blocks latter on. Regarding price, there's a great chance that it will plummet big time pag may chain split. BTW SegWit2x is already on testing... interesting times coming on.

After hard fork daw kc ang btc ay mag e.split into two separate blockchains and two different coins will be created daw
I just read an article says
"you can expect one of three scenarios after hard fork
1. All of your coins will become BTC only
2. All of your coins will become BTU only.
3. Your coins will be doubled, so if you had 2 coins before the fork occurs, you will have 2 BTC and 2 BTU after forking is completed."
So ang community ma didivide daw, one supporting btc the other supporting btu, ang bad news mga supporter ng btu na bih whales pag nah dump sila ng btc, may whale na nag hohold
Ng 300k btc, pag yun nag dump bababa po ang btc


that's possible. First of all, hard fork will only occur when majority of miners don't signal for segwit before Aug. 1st as the non-segwit nodes will not be compatible with segwit of course hence - a possible chain split. I wouldn't call non-segwit chain BTU. it's just non-segwit chain.


Kakatakot naman kung talagang mangyayari yan. Ibig po bang sabihin eh back to zero yung galaw ng btc kapag nahati sa dalawang chain? Paano na po yung mga funds natin sa coins.ph? Posible po bang mawala yung mga nakabag na btc sa coins wallet natin kapag ganun? Sabi din kasi ng iba na much better to transfer funds sa hard wallet para daw po safe. Sa mga pros po dyan penge po ng advice ano dapat gawin kasi parang nakakakaba naman ang upcoming events ng btc. Balak ko pa naman iwithdraw yung funds ko o kaya iconvert to peso sa coins.ph mahirap na baka mamaya mawala pa ang pinaghirapan ko.

Don't worry pre, as long as you control your private keys it's your money. So its far better to store your funds on a wallet wherein you control your private keys. I don't usually hold funds at coins.ph. I only use it to cash out my btc to fiat when I needed it. I believe there was a blog from coins on how they will handle a fork if it will happen. http://blog.coins.ph/search/hard%20fork (http://blog.coins.ph/search/hard%20fork). As for the price, the market will decide. I'm not worried.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: crwth on June 19, 2017, 07:58:34 AM
There are a lot of resources to see what Segwit means and how it improves the network. FYI, BIP148 is a soft fork, not a hard fork. but it could lead to coin-split. So in August 1, anyone who is running Bitcoin software would not send bit 1. If majority of the miners do not support the BIP148 (UASF), it would lead to a coin-split. But there is a better solution, BIP91.


Title: Re: upcoming bitcoin fork
Post by: Jako0203 on June 19, 2017, 08:34:15 AM
i hope mas tataas pa sana , para marami matulungan , pero kung bababa sana affordable na yung bitcoin