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Title: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 10:49:07 PM

Update - after fixing it via adding checkpoints it kept been 51%. I pulled git into private area. If someone want to develop it I can re open it. Perhaps re opening after 2-3 days depends on the interest.

Update - it seems pocopoco is working on his original idea to be released. To make it clear I compiled client of coin we mine here - https://github.com/algordon/ycoin

It is based on pocopoco implementation of novacoin. Idea is to allow community to choose - if someone want to continue to develop Ycoin.

You can examine git its seems same as nova. I have compiled it now from scratch and it working fine. Some changes could make it better.

Update - original developer pocopoco seems to be nowhere to be found. I have made a clone of his git to allow for coin development provided some people are interested. https://github.com/algordon/ycoin/

I have looked at source code it seems to be implemented in same was as feathercoin , as MarkM noted. So yes some changes to it could made it a bit better. Up to you guys now :)

If pocopoco wants to develop even better.


Original post.

Hey https://github.com/pocopoco/yacoin

In yacoin channel we are mining it. When I started around 400K was mined by some dudes. I managed to get some :) It seems clone of nova. I downloaded zip of git as well just in case. #yacoin freenode :)

P.S Also want to buy 10K of them for ltc.

To mine on linux http://forum.litecoin.net/index.php?topic=43.0 just delete lite and use yac so its litecoin - yacoin :)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: champbronc2 on May 06, 2013, 10:50:51 PM
edit:lol


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 10:51:18 PM
So the starting difficulty was still way too insanely low?

Blocks every second or so?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: hl5460 on May 06, 2013, 10:52:07 PM
Premine and Scam?


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: blastbob on May 06, 2013, 10:52:16 PM
    "balance" : 123736.97000000,

Great Success


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: zdarkazn on May 06, 2013, 10:52:30 PM
Lets see haters like ymer and substrata come in here and flame.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: bitpar on May 06, 2013, 10:52:42 PM
Thanks for the heads up in the IRC room! Mining now.
https://i.imgur.com/Vdsm9jE.png


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 10:53:02 PM
Bob how much for 10K? offers  in PM or here.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: xibeijan on May 06, 2013, 10:53:21 PM
I have tons of orphans.  What does that mean?


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: Wolf Rainer on May 06, 2013, 10:54:29 PM
Where can i get the binary? :S


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: JimmyFL on May 06, 2013, 10:54:35 PM
This is some old repo  ::) It's just slightly modded nova. The "real" coin isn't released yet...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: Twerka on May 06, 2013, 10:55:10 PM
Where is the client download?


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: bitpar on May 06, 2013, 10:55:27 PM
This is some old repo  ::) It's just slightly modded nova. The "real" coin isn't released yet...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196196)

This is as real as it gets. Nothing else was released and there will likely not be anything else.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 10:55:45 PM
I have tons of orphans.  What does that mean?

It means the initial difficulty was set way too insanely low despite all previous discussion about correcting that.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: Passion_ltc on May 06, 2013, 10:55:58 PM
It's not the real one guys..


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: seleme on May 06, 2013, 10:57:22 PM
that's a testing one


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: GSnak on May 06, 2013, 10:57:36 PM
Wonder why he didn't release the coin 9 days ago when the last code change was made.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: skull88 on May 06, 2013, 10:57:52 PM
lol, this is novacoin, only the name is changed  :D
We are still waiting for the real one  :P


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: bitpar on May 06, 2013, 10:58:13 PM
Get in now or you will miss out!


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 10:58:24 PM
It's not the real one guys..

Ah so we are merely re-enacting a Novacoin startup and thus seeing how grossly Novacoin was pre-loaded to implement instant pre-mine by the sound of it.

See how scammy Novacoin was/is? :)

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:02:17 PM
Buying between 10K and 50K offers in PM :D


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: xibeijan on May 06, 2013, 11:02:59 PM
What does an orphaned transaction mean?


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:04:40 PM
Means better make pool. It means when 2 people solved block same time 1 got accepted and 1 not. MarkM might correct me as I am busy with mining it :D


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: BBQCoinsFTW on May 06, 2013, 11:06:08 PM
How do you mines this ? :-s


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: BBQCoinsFTW on May 06, 2013, 11:07:36 PM
yacoin# ls -a
.   .git            .gitignore  INSTALL  README.md  doc    src
..  .gitattributes  COPYING     README   contrib    share  yacoin-qt.pro


How must I compile it ?:)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: monokaskade on May 06, 2013, 11:09:33 PM
@OP
You are using the wrong fork.
The right one is here: https://github.com/pocoqoco/yacoin


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 11:10:49 PM
Don't bother, it is not real.

But just for practice so you'll be ready when the real one comes out,

qmake
make

Or if your QT is qt4,

qmake-qt4
make

I am assuming using the GUI builder would be anathema to a command-line chap like yourself of course.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
Its real in many ways.

1) First blocks started around 24H deadline so I been told. Maybe MarkM can check it.

2) Its fully working coin with POW and POS. We sent some coins its working

3) There is no way to say yac made a slip or what. Note he is quiet. Anyway I am keen to speculate on it after china coin with its borked code went to exchange :)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: seleme on May 06, 2013, 11:17:14 PM
Its real in many ways.

1) First blocks started around 24H deadline so I been told. Maybe MarkM can check it.

2) Its fully working coin with POW and POS. We sent some coins its working

3) There is no way to say yac made a slip or what. Note he is quiet. Anyway I am keen to speculate on it after china coin with its borked code went to exchange :)

even if it is real it's not released and as such premined.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: ymer on May 06, 2013, 11:17:50 PM
Lets see haters like ymer and substrate come in here and flame.

LOL I really created an impression on you didn't I?

and BTW you already are showing your idiocy, this is not the Yacoin yet, and yes difficulty is insanely low and stupid. ::)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 11:19:10 PM
What are its default ports, what is its address-representation offset (or what number or letter appears as first number or letter of most addresses it creates), and what is the four-byte network connection handshake it uses?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:22:16 PM

ubuntu@ip-10-58-110-153:~$ yacoind getinfo
{
    "version" : "v0.4.0-nvc-1-g667a9ab-beta",
    "protocolversion" : 60005,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : xxxx
    "newmint" : xxxx
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 9444,
    "moneysupply" : 813165.54000000,
    "connections" : 8,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "54.224.114.110",
    "difficulty" : 0.00154147,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1367871965,
    "keypoolsize" : 102,
    "paytxfee" : 0.01000000,
    "errors" : ""

9444 block and started around 24 hours time when yac suppose to be out. Is it his or not 0 ideas. However I am going to watch youtube and mine some of it :)

P.S How I can check where blocks started to come? Any howto? :)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: iamalitecoin on May 06, 2013, 11:23:21 PM
i am confuse


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: xibeijan on May 06, 2013, 11:24:42 PM
I am good Englang.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 11:25:14 PM
i am confuse

Congratulations. At least you are aware of the fact.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:26:56 PM

I am sleepy and frankly at this stage I feel someone else might check it too :)

What are its default ports, what is its address-representation offset (or what number or letter appears as first number or letter of most addresses it creates), and what is the four-byte network connection handshake it uses?

-MarkM-



Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: dreamhouse on May 06, 2013, 11:27:35 PM
9845 blocks mined?? what the b--shit?


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: DryPowder on May 06, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
i am confuse

Troll Post   ::)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: dreamhouse on May 06, 2013, 11:28:42 PM
Actually 19691 blocks> what the fuck

heavily premined, forget it


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 11:31:58 PM
Actually 19691 blocks> what the fuck

Hence the questions aimed at discovering what network it is connecting to.

Are people losing the coins they thought they had mined, as would happen if for example it managed to connect to the Novacoin net and realise everything it thought it had mined was on an orphan chain?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: dreamhouse on May 06, 2013, 11:36:03 PM
and diff is near zero, garbage


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: kzetts on May 06, 2013, 11:39:37 PM
The addresses start with 4, just like NVC.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:39:42 PM
"blocks" : 10017, anyone can compile and check ;)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: Nadia on May 06, 2013, 11:40:30 PM
Hence the questions aimed at discovering what network it is connecting to.

Are people losing the coins they thought they had mined, as would happen if for example it managed to connect to the Novacoin net and realise everything it thought it had mined was on an orphan chain?

-MarkM-

It's not novacoin network. It is its own network. They create a new network by only changing the irc channel ... all miners clients connect to it and know each other that way. Quite easy to create a scam money from nowhere. Grab the source code, rename all "*coin" to "yourcoin". Recompile. Done. New network, new blockchain, enjoy. :D


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: alex_fun on May 06, 2013, 11:43:30 PM
MarkM

Also I mined it for some time and it all seems fine, coins adding up slowly, new stake I presume is POS. Seems like fully working new coin.

   "balance" : 123736.97000000,

Great Success


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
It's not novacoin network. It is its own network. They create a new network by only changing the irc channel ... all miners clients connect to it and know each other that way. Quite easy to create a scam money from nowhere. Grab the source code, rename all "*coin" to "yourcoin". Recompile. Done. New network, new blockchain, enjoy. :D

Fine until you do happen across a node of the other network.

Then your connection handshake works, you notice blocks do not match, and maybe disconnect each other as naughty nodes or kindly help each other get onto the longest chain, orphaning the other chain...

(For example, someone runs NVC as well as the new clone both behind the same household router. Both connect to an IRC channel. Same IP address and port now appears in both IRC channels. If that port is open to incoming connections the fun begins...)

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: Wolf Rainer on May 06, 2013, 11:46:37 PM
Really this retards are mining a fake coin and trying to sell it? LOL.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: markm on May 06, 2013, 11:49:41 PM
Really this retards are mining a fake coin and trying to sell it? LOL.

Isn't that pretty much exactly what (whoeveritwas? some forum or 4chan or something?) used to say about bitcoin?

-MarkM-


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: blastbob on May 06, 2013, 11:51:22 PM
I feel like a retard right now, need sleep.

Anyway i haven't sold shit, i just like the stats :)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: toork on May 07, 2013, 01:38:17 AM
WTB pizza for 2000 YAC


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: alex_fun on May 07, 2013, 04:22:46 AM
where pizza goes? the address? Also mining goes on. since yacoin op working on his coin  this coin is renamed into ycoin and housed at https://github.com/algordon/ycoin

enjoy :)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: freequant on May 07, 2013, 04:43:57 AM
Also mining goes on. [...]  this coin is renamed into ycoin and housed at https://github.com/algordon/ycoin

And that must be the "switch" part of the bait and switch, where a seemingly unrelated (but strangely insisting) passerby who effectively premined heavily during the confusion proposes to just keep going with that copy of Novacoin.
Or how to make a whole diversion scenario to launch a copycat altcoin with heavy premine while making it look like it was accidental.
Anyway, cheers for the staging, this is the most original altcoin scam scenario I have seen to date.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: GSnak on May 07, 2013, 04:54:45 AM
Meh I'm not impressed. The "official" release thread will always be the best thing about this coin.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: Joerii on May 07, 2013, 05:10:10 AM
Also mining goes on. [...]  this coin is renamed into ycoin and housed at https://github.com/algordon/ycoin

And that must be the "switch" part of the bait and switch, where a seemingly unrelated (but strangely insisting) passerby who effectively premined heavily during the confusion proposes to just keep going with that copy of Novacoin.
Or how to make a whole diversion scenario to launch a copycat altcoin with heavy premine while making it look like it was accidental.
Anyway, cheers for the staging, this is the most original altcoin scam scenario I have seen to date.

Very good post !


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: Caesar V on May 07, 2013, 05:20:26 AM
This is such bullshit, won't even bother to download  :D


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: zdarkazn on May 07, 2013, 05:26:13 AM
Lets see haters like ymer and substrate come in here and flame.

LOL I really created an impression on you didn't I?

and BTW you already are showing your idiocy, this is not the Yacoin yet, and yes difficulty is insanely low and stupid. ::)


I said nothing about Yac. You failed at reading. Simple enough.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001 something.
Post by: twobits on May 07, 2013, 05:31:49 AM
Hence the questions aimed at discovering what network it is connecting to.

Are people losing the coins they thought they had mined, as would happen if for example it managed to connect to the Novacoin net and realise everything it thought it had mined was on an orphan chain?

-MarkM-

It's not novacoin network. It is its own network. They create a new network by only changing the irc channel ... all miners clients connect to it and know each other that way. Quite easy to create a scam money from nowhere. Grab the source code, rename all "*coin" to "yourcoin". Recompile. Done. New network, new blockchain, enjoy. :D

If that is all that was done, it won't work.  At some point you are all in for a surprise if this is true as to all that was changed.
 


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: mc_lovin on May 07, 2013, 05:37:51 AM
launching a coin by "accidental information" by another "innocent" member, and it's already premined to hell = why did you waste your time.  instant scamcoin label.  at least you gave us a head's up on this one, yet it wasn't even publicly released at all and there is no windows binary?


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: hanzac on May 07, 2013, 06:29:28 AM
Please do not spam the craps that are not innovative! This is really silly and waste people's energy.
Everyone here should focus on innovative ideas that will bring a healthier environment for the crypto-coins to grow.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: alex_fun on May 07, 2013, 06:54:03 AM
It seems many wanted to mine yacoin then his old git came up. Initially people though this is da new coin :) Then ok it was clear its nova clone. So some decided lets mine it for lulz.

It have been 51% twice yet about to be restored. At least some people took action instead of simply saying nothing released at due day a well. As to premine I did posted fairly early about fact people mining this stuff ;) anyways good to learn and lets see what happens to it.


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: uowcaaa on May 07, 2013, 07:28:25 AM
Where  is  the client for windows? ???


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: alex_fun on May 07, 2013, 07:37:39 AM
Since interest is low I pulled git down. When many people want it then it can be open again with win QT and so on. :)


Title: Re: ANN Yacoin seems to be released. Current diff 0.001. Now known as Ycoin.
Post by: uowcaaa on May 07, 2013, 07:43:27 AM
Since interest is low I pulled git down. When many people want it then it can be open again with win QT and so on. :)

need QT~XD     SOONN~~