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Title: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 07, 2013, 05:25:16 AM
H

Hydrogen Atom

Now, add another atom or a subsequent subscript, naming the new chemical fomula, e.g., if H20, then Water (Molecule).

Once there's a consus that nothing more can be added to create a newly named molecule, then we'll swap out atoms, again at a ratio of 1:1.

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H


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Foxpup on May 07, 2013, 05:42:01 AM
H2 (Hydrogen)


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: AzureEngineer on May 07, 2013, 05:44:44 AM
CH2




Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Foxpup on May 07, 2013, 05:57:56 AM
CH2 (Carbene)
FTFY. Although there's only one molecule with that formula, that'll change once our molecule gets bigger and more complex, so you need to be more specific than just a molecular formula.

CH2O (Formaldehyde)


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: jackjack on May 07, 2013, 07:34:13 AM
C2H2O - Oxirene


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: meowmeowbrowncow on May 07, 2013, 01:45:53 PM
C2H2O - Oxirene

C2H2OF4

Tetrafluorodimethyl ether


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Foxpup on May 07, 2013, 02:05:06 PM
C2H2OF4

Tetrafluorodimethyl ether
Hey! You're only supposed to add one atom at a time! Not four! That's cheating! Now you've made it slightly harder for the rest of us. Are you happy? I'm not. >:(

C3H2F4O (1,1,3,3-tetrafluoroacetone)


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: AzureEngineer on May 07, 2013, 02:55:03 PM
C3H2F4O2 (2,2,4,5-Tetrafluoro-1,3-dioxolane)


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: jackjack on May 07, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
Proposal: don't build on molecules built with more than one additional atom


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 07, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
Proposal: don't build on molecules built with more than one additional atom

The only reason I aced Chemistry in HS is because I was able to do the math and figured out the moles, otherwise the entire subject eludes me, but does fascinate me.

Feel free to tweak the requirements that I originally laid out in the OP to make this thread a more enjoyable learning experience.


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: AzureEngineer on May 07, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
I think he is referring to a previous poster that added four flourine atoms in a single post.


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 07, 2013, 06:18:36 PM
C4H2F4O2 (2,2,3,3-Tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylic acid)


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 08, 2013, 03:27:55 AM
UuoC4H2F4O2 (Ununoctium-2,2,3,3-Tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylate, also popularly known as thread-breaking salt. :D)


Let me guess: You want to be a salt miner.

C4H2F4O3 (Difluoroacetic Anhydride)

Serious question: What does the 2s & 3s represent in (2,2,3,3-Tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylic acid)?


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: Foxpup on May 08, 2013, 04:06:59 AM
Serious question: What does the 2s & 3s represent in (2,2,3,3-Tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylic acid)?
They indicate the location of the fluoro- groups on the carbon chain. Each carbon atom on the chain is numbered, and the functional groups are numbered according to which carbon atom they are attached to, in cases where the molecular formula is ambiguous. For example, in the case of 2,2,3,3-tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylic acid, this is the molecular structure, with the carbons numbered:
Code:
     F
    /
F-(2)      O
   | \    //
   | (1)-C
   | /    \
F-(3)      OH
    \
     F
(Numbering starts from the primary group, which is this case is the carboxylic acid group (-C(=O)OH). Not shown is the extra hydrogen attached to 1, which is implied by the fact that it only has three single bonds instead of four.)

This system is necessary to avoid confusion with other molecules sharing the same formula, such as 2,2,3,4-tetrafluoro-3-butenoic acid, and 3,3,4,4-tetrafluorodihydro-2(3H)-furanone, which both also have the molecular formula C4H2F4O2.


Title: Re: Let's make a molecule adding one atom at a time.
Post by: myrkul on May 08, 2013, 04:09:51 AM
Serious question: What does the 2s & 3s represent in (2,2,3,3-Tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylic acid)?
They indicate the location of the fluoro- groups on the carbon chain. Each carbon atom on the chain is numbered, and the functional groups are numbered according to which carbon atom they are attached to, in cases where the molecular formula is ambiguous. For example, in the case of 2,2,3,3-tetrafluorocyclopropanecarboxylic acid, this is the molecular structure, with the carbons numbered:

Much better than I was going to explain it. I commend your ASCII art skills, as well. :)