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Title: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: radu91 on June 22, 2017, 01:50:07 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: anticlimax on June 22, 2017, 02:01:31 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bulgar73 on June 22, 2017, 02:12:56 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.


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Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: radu91 on June 22, 2017, 02:18:24 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.

You must have gotten me wrong. I have two separate PSU. I only lack on enough cables for them. 1080ti needs the 8 pin to 8 + 6 pin cable.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: Bothebu on June 22, 2017, 02:23:01 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.

You must have gotten me wrong. I have two separate PSU. I only lack on enough cables for them. 1080ti needs the 8 pin to 8 + 6 pin cable.

They make adapters for that....to turn an 8 pin into an 8 + (6+2)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: Marvell1 on June 22, 2017, 04:42:06 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.

You must have gotten me wrong. I have two separate PSU. I only lack on enough cables for them. 1080ti needs the 8 pin to 8 + 6 pin cable.

They make adapters for that....to turn an 8 pin into an 8 + (6+2)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 22, 2017, 08:24:48 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.

You must have gotten me wrong. I have two separate PSU. I only lack on enough cables for them. 1080ti needs the 8 pin to 8 + 6 pin cable.

They make adapters for that....to turn an 8 pin into an 8 + (6+2)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo

This. And even then I'd be skeptical. 8-pins can deliver 150 watts (6 pin can do 75 watts) or 12.5 amps each so running twice that off of one cable is not a good idea.

There's a reason higher end PSUs give you more 8+6 ports and cables instead of simply giving you more 8+8 (or even 8+8+8+8) cables. I don't think I ever got a 8+8 pin cable with any PSU, only 8+6.

If you go down that route of splitting the 8-pin into 2, check the temperature of the cable all the way and get back to us, I'm curious.

What I do know for sure is that you should never interchange cables for different brand PSUs, they don't use the same standards even if the cables fit perfectly so you'll end up frying stuff.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: vatusasid on June 22, 2017, 09:14:15 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You can use the 2X molex to 1 PCIE 6 pin. It should be able to deliver 75W. Do not use the 8  pin to 8 + 8 (6+2), which cannot deliver 150W+75W


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: QuintLeo on June 22, 2017, 06:52:46 PM

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo

This. And even then I'd be skeptical. 8-pins can deliver 150 watts (6 pin can do 75 watts) or 12.5 amps each so running twice that off of one cable is not a good idea.


 The CONNECTOR used for 8-pin PCI-E is specified at 8 amps per pin - multiply times 3 (as only 3 leads are used for +12v) = 24 amps x 12 volts = 288 watts.
 PCI-E spec is VERY conservative on the connector.

 Running an 8-pin plus a 6-pin should be viable if you mind the wire gauge, on a high-quality power supply.

 However DEFINITELY make sure all of the wires used are at LEAST 16 AWG.

 The other question is WHICH EVGA power supply are you using? They DO make some that will handle 4 x GTX 1080 ti in a rig with ONE power supply (G2 1300 for probably the best example) - and THAT power supply has enough connectors by default.


 If you think you need to modify the connectors to "make them fit" you are probably trying to put them in wrong.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bdiddle on June 22, 2017, 06:58:57 PM
It will also be safer if you are setting tdp down to like 70%.

If the cards are fine for regular gaming/overclocking where the tdp is pushed way farther, its gotta be somewhat okay to cut the tdp and use some wire splitters


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: grape_tectonics on June 22, 2017, 08:42:35 PM
I think he's trying to stick the 8 pin motherboard power into a graphics card. Don't do it or there will be tears.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: antantti on June 22, 2017, 09:36:06 PM
R9 295x2 is out of specs card with tdp of 500w and only 2x8-pin connectors, I have seen spikes of 600w at the wall when fully unleashed.

Based on my experiments with those and two normal 8-pin 200w cards chained I would say 250w/ 8-pin is easily doable but going beyond that point you really need to know what you are doing. But it is easy to test, just launch your miner and monitor connector/ cabling temps.

To be really sure you need custom male+female connectors at both ends and heavy wiring between them. In early 2016 when daily eth profits were at $5/20MH I used 20" fans just to cool my connectors...


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 22, 2017, 11:34:19 PM

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo

This. And even then I'd be skeptical. 8-pins can deliver 150 watts (6 pin can do 75 watts) or 12.5 amps each so running twice that off of one cable is not a good idea.


 The CONNECTOR used for 8-pin PCI-E is specified at 8 amps per pin - multiply times 3 (as only 3 leads are used for +12v) = 24 amps x 12 volts = 288 watts.
 PCI-E spec is VERY conservative on the connector.

 Running an 8-pin plus a 6-pin should be viable if you mind the wire gauge, on a high-quality power supply.

 However DEFINITELY make sure all of the wires used are at LEAST 16 AWG.

 The other question is WHICH EVGA power supply are you using? They DO make some that will handle 4 x GTX 1080 ti in a rig with ONE power supply (G2 1300 for probably the best example) - and THAT power supply has enough connectors by default.


 If you think you need to modify the connectors to "make them fit" you are probably trying to put them in wrong.

No, 1080 Ti's require 2 x 8 pins and the G2 1300W comes with 6 VGA ports on the PSU and 2 x 6+2 + 6 cables and 4 x 6+2 cables

That's 5 x 8 pins total (they might as well come with only 8 pin single cables) without converters meaning it can only handle exactly 3 pieces of 1080 Ti's.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: radu91 on June 23, 2017, 03:05:43 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.

You must have gotten me wrong. I have two separate PSU. I only lack on enough cables for them. 1080ti needs the 8 pin to 8 + 6 pin cable.

They make adapters for that....to turn an 8 pin into an 8 + (6+2)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo

This. And even then I'd be skeptical. 8-pins can deliver 150 watts (6 pin can do 75 watts) or 12.5 amps each so running twice that off of one cable is not a good idea.

There's a reason higher end PSUs give you more 8+6 ports and cables instead of simply giving you more 8+8 (or even 8+8+8+8) cables. I don't think I ever got a 8+8 pin cable with any PSU, only 8+6.

If you go down that route of splitting the 8-pin into 2, check the temperature of the cable all the way and get back to us, I'm curious.

What I do know for sure is that you should never interchange cables for different brand PSUs, they don't use the same standards even if the cables fit perfectly so you'll end up frying stuff.

I have evga 1000G. This PSU comes stock with 2 cables that work for 1080ti. I tdp around 70% on 1080ti already tested. They stay around 170Wx4 = ~680w plus the rest goes up to around 800w from the wall. This fits in the 80% push for the PSU which I think it's healthy.

I would have gone with evga 1600w PSU but they are ridiculously out of stock and didn't want to wait. As soon as the bigger psu comes in stock I am ordering it and I'll make another 4 or 5x 1070s rig with the 1000w PSU.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: Bothebu on June 23, 2017, 03:35:47 AM
I must give juice to 4x 1080ti. I only have 2 of those 8 pin to 8 + 8 (6+2) per PSU. I have another rig 6x 1070 on a corsair PSU.

The rig I want to place the 4 1080ti is a EVGA PSU... Somehow the companies hate each other and even though the cables are same family, they won't fit.

Now my question is, if I cut or use sandpaper to modifiy the shoes that won't go into the PSU, would that be a big nono ?

I tried to find cable to buy separately, they seem to sell them only in complete set, which is almost $100.

You want to blow some shit up?
By all means modify the psu cables.

There are lots of power supplies that can handle running 4 1080 ti's, buy one.

Don't buy the most expensive mining cards, only to cheap out on the power supply.

You must have gotten me wrong. I have two separate PSU. I only lack on enough cables for them. 1080ti needs the 8 pin to 8 + 6 pin cable.

They make adapters for that....to turn an 8 pin into an 8 + (6+2)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LVZBJML/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo

16 awg?  I doubt you will find that.  The wire in the wall on a 15amp circuit is 14 awg and that is rated to carry 1800 watts.  20amp circuit uses 12 wire.   18 gauge is definitely enough to carry 150 or so watts.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: antantti on June 23, 2017, 07:19:50 AM
16 awg?  I doubt you will find that.  The wire in the wall on a 15amp circuit is 14 awg and that is rated to carry 1800 watts.  20amp circuit uses 12 wire.   18 gauge is definitely enough to carry 150 or so watts.

It is about amps not watts:

Wall// 150W/1.25A/120V //PSU// 150W/11.25A/12V //GPU

edit: 100% PSU efficiency to make it simple.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: Auponef on June 23, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
I think he's trying to stick the 8 pin motherboard power into a graphics card. Don't do it or there will be tears.

They are incompatible. You need adaptors.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 23, 2017, 06:50:08 PM
I have evga 1000G. This PSU comes stock with 2 cables that work for 1080ti. I tdp around 70% on 1080ti already tested. They stay around 170Wx4 = ~680w plus the rest goes up to around 800w from the wall. This fits in the 80% push for the PSU which I think it's healthy.

I would have gone with evga 1600w PSU but they are ridiculously out of stock and didn't want to wait. As soon as the bigger psu comes in stock I am ordering it and I'll make another 4 or 5x 1070s rig with the 1000w PSU.

So you mean you have a couple of 8+8 pin cables?


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: nu1mlock on June 23, 2017, 08:39:30 PM
No, 1080 Ti's require 2 x 8 pins and the G2 1300W comes with 6 VGA ports on the PSU and 2 x 6+2 + 6 cables and 4 x 6+2 cables

That's 5 x 8 pins total (they might as well come with only 8 pin single cables) without converters meaning it can only handle exactly 3 pieces of 1080 Ti's.
I have 36x 1080 Ti's (4 different models) and 30 of them (3 different models) are using 8+6 pins. Only one of the four models use 8+8 pins.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 23, 2017, 08:41:59 PM
No, 1080 Ti's require 2 x 8 pins and the G2 1300W comes with 6 VGA ports on the PSU and 2 x 6+2 + 6 cables and 4 x 6+2 cables

That's 5 x 8 pins total (they might as well come with only 8 pin single cables) without converters meaning it can only handle exactly 3 pieces of 1080 Ti's.
I have 36x 1080 Ti's (4 different models) and 30 of them (3 different models) are using 8+6 pins. Only one of the four models use 8+8 pins.

Huh, didn't know that but I can see the FE also has 8+6.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: radu91 on June 24, 2017, 04:58:52 AM
I have evga 1000G. This PSU comes stock with 2 cables that work for 1080ti. I tdp around 70% on 1080ti already tested. They stay around 170Wx4 = ~680w plus the rest goes up to around 800w from the wall. This fits in the 80% push for the PSU which I think it's healthy.

I would have gone with evga 1600w PSU but they are ridiculously out of stock and didn't want to wait. As soon as the bigger psu comes in stock I am ordering it and I'll make another 4 or 5x 1070s rig with the 1000w PSU.

So you mean you have a couple of 8+8 pin cables?

I do have extra 8 + 8 pin cables. I do. Am I being terrible noobish right now? Is there a "trick" that is right in front of my eyes but just don't see it ? If I plug it in with a second 8 pin cable and use the 6 pin at the end, windows won't see the GPU. It's in device manager with the yellow warning sign. As soon as I put the right cable (8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)), it is recognized.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 24, 2017, 01:10:52 PM
I have evga 1000G. This PSU comes stock with 2 cables that work for 1080ti. I tdp around 70% on 1080ti already tested. They stay around 170Wx4 = ~680w plus the rest goes up to around 800w from the wall. This fits in the 80% push for the PSU which I think it's healthy.

I would have gone with evga 1600w PSU but they are ridiculously out of stock and didn't want to wait. As soon as the bigger psu comes in stock I am ordering it and I'll make another 4 or 5x 1070s rig with the 1000w PSU.

So you mean you have a couple of 8+8 pin cables?

I do have extra 8 + 8 pin cables. I do. Am I being terrible noobish right now? Is there a "trick" that is right in front of my eyes but just don't see it ? If I plug it in with a second 8 pin cable and use the 6 pin at the end, windows won't see the GPU. It's in device manager with the yellow warning sign. As soon as I put the right cable (8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)), it is recognized.

No, I'm just very surprised as all my cables are 8+6 (6+2 + 6) maximum and I've been buying big EVGA PSUs for years now. Even bought some extra cables from them directly but they didn't have 8+8, only 8+6.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: QuintLeo on June 24, 2017, 11:56:43 PM
R9 295x2 is out of specs card with tdp of 500w and only 2x8-pin connectors, I have seen spikes of 600w at the wall when fully unleashed.

Based on my experiments with those and two normal 8-pin 200w cards chained I would say 250w/ 8-pin is easily doable but going beyond that point you really need to know what you are doing. But it is easy to test, just launch your miner and monitor connector/ cabling temps.

To be really sure you need custom male+female connectors at both ends and heavy wiring between them. In early 2016 when daily eth profits were at $5/20MH I used 20" fans just to cool my connectors...

 Officially, the R9 295x2 was a 450 watt TDP card
 (yeah, I know - I'm ROFLAMO too!)
 I am not at all amazed pull up to 600, as that's in line with it being a dual R9 290x and THOSE were 300+ watt cards when pushed - I'd think the main limit on a 295x2 would be cooling, though I think most or all of them had at least some water cooling?


 8 + 8 would requite 12 AWG to run safely at max PCI-E spec - which would be a royal PITA on needing custom pins and connectors to fit into the PS itself as I'm pretty sure even 14 AWG is pushing the spec on the standard PCI-E sized connector pins.

 Also, 8 + 8 x 6 times (EVGA G2 1300) would be as high as 1500 watts JUST for the PCI-E connectors without exceeding PCI-E specs - and a very bad idea.
 8 + 6 on 6 cables would exceed the PS limit by a bit if they were all loaded down to the full PCI-E spec (150 + 75 = 225 watts a cable, 6 times would be 1350 watts).


 BTW - a pair of 8 + 6 and 4 more single 6+2 is *6* 8-pin-capable connectors on the stock EVGA G2 1300 cable set, not 5.
 Still not enough to run more than 4 of any GTX 1080ti model though.




Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: QuintLeo on June 25, 2017, 12:01:10 AM

look for 16 awg 18 awg is dangerous imo

16 awg?  I doubt you will find that.  The wire in the wall on a 15amp circuit is 14 awg and that is rated to carry 1800 watts.  20amp circuit uses 12 wire.   18 gauge is definitely enough to carry 150 or so watts.

 No, 14 AWG wire is rated to carry 15 AMPS at up to whatever voltage limit the insulation is good for - this has NOTHING to do with watts.

 18 AWG at 12 VDC will NOT handle 150 watts comfortably, as that is 12.5 AMPS and 18 AWG is only rated for something like 7 or 8.

 Quite a few high-quality power supplies will use 16 AWG wiring on their PCI-E dual-connector cables because it's NEEDED to handle the load from both connectors safely - some use it on all of their PCI-E cables just to save the trouble of keeping more than one size around and having to worry about mixing them up.





Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 28, 2017, 10:16:44 AM
Contacted EVGA and they do not have 8+8 cables in any form (like 6+2 + 6+2).

Only 8+6.

So there's some misunderstanding here.

When we're talking about 8 or 6-pin cables we're talking about the usable end which you can plug into the cards. The 8-pin end you plug into the PSU doesn't matter.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: antantti on June 28, 2017, 11:13:23 AM

I am not at all amazed pull up to 600, as that's in line with it being a dual R9 290x and THOSE were 300+ watt cards when pushed - I'd think the main limit on a 295x2 would be cooling, though I think most or all of them had at least some water cooling?

They were all reference cards with hybrid cooling thermal throttling starting at 75C, custom loop is a must if you want to really push them.


8 + 8 would requite 12 AWG to run safely at max PCI-E spec - which would be a royal PITA on needing custom pins and connectors to fit into the PS itself as I'm pretty sure even 14 AWG is pushing the spec on the standard PCI-E sized connector pins.

One thing I have not tried yet is to try without those plastic connectors, just pins at the both ends. That would give some more space to heavy duty pins too.

Also I am sure I saw somewhere higher rated 8-pin connectors, there were at least three different ratings for different current levels. I just can't find that store anymore.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: dragon123 on June 28, 2017, 12:54:13 PM
The evga 1000gq comes with 4 8+8 pin cables and I'm currently running 4 1080tis. You can't use connectors from different psu as the pin layout is different for each manufacturer.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: bathrobehero on June 28, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
The evga 1000gq comes with 4 8+8 pin cables and I'm currently running 4 1080tis. You can't use connectors from different psu as the pin layout is different for each manufacturer.

Hahh! Finally a picture I can actually really see 8+8 cables!

It seems the EVGA SuperNOVA models doesn't have 8+8 cables but other models do.

Weird, really.

I'm curious if the cables for the 1000GQ are interchangeable with the SuperNOVA models. It would be silly if it wouldn't but who knows, time to ask EVGA again.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: dragon123 on June 28, 2017, 01:55:49 PM
Sadly they are not interchangeable, the GQ series seems like the odd one out as you can't even buy the cables from the evga site.
As for OP, what you can do is swap the psu end of an 8+8 cable with the psu end of one of your evga single 8 pin cables. You have to make sure the wires are aligned exactly as your other evga pcie cables. There's a youtube video of how to remove pins off a psu cable using staples if you want to give it a go.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: Vaccinus on June 28, 2017, 02:52:36 PM
just buy more cables from the same vendors for example corsair sell additional pie cables for cheap, because no pay come with more than 4x 2x6+2 10x pie cables


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: QuintLeo on June 29, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
No, 1080 Ti's require 2 x 8 pins and the G2 1300W comes with 6 VGA ports on the PSU and 2 x 6+2 + 6 cables and 4 x 6+2 cables

That's 5 x 8 pins total (they might as well come with only 8 pin single cables) without converters meaning it can only handle exactly 3 pieces of 1080 Ti's.
I have 36x 1080 Ti's (4 different models) and 30 of them (3 different models) are using 8+6 pins. Only one of the four models use 8+8 pins.

Huh, didn't know that but I can see the FE also has 8+6.


 FE is 250 watt TDP.

 Aftermarket - I'd expect quite a few in the 300 watt range, with occasional high-end cards likely pushing 350 ballpark.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: QuintLeo on June 29, 2017, 01:43:03 AM
Sadly they are not interchangeable, the GQ series seems like the odd one out as you can't even buy the cables from the evga site.
As for OP, what you can do is swap the psu end of an 8+8 cable with the psu end of one of your evga single 8 pin cables. You have to make sure the wires are aligned exactly as your other evga pcie cables. There's a youtube video of how to remove pins off a psu cable using staples if you want to give it a go.

  The G2 series is manufactured by Super Flower.
 *IF* I am remembering correctly, the GQ series is manufactured by Seasonic.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: KaydenC on June 29, 2017, 01:48:48 AM
http://cryptomininghw.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/IMG_2405-1-1024x768.jpg

http://cryptomininghw.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/1080ti-pcie-splitter.jpg



The splitter cables are fine and way cheaper than getting more cables from manufacturers. I use them for my 1080ti FE farm. Even when at 120% TDP, they never feel warm.
I'm sourcing several items (risers, mobos, this pcie splitter etc) from factories and selling them in an online shop soon.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: allcryptominer on June 29, 2017, 05:03:14 AM


The splitter cables are fine and way cheaper than getting more cables from manufacturers. I use them for my 1080ti FE farm. Even when at 120% TDP, they never feel warm.
I'm sourcing several items (risers, mobos, this pcie splitter etc) from factories and selling them in an online shop soon.

I just ordered these cables https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-High-Quality-8-Pin-Male-to-Dual-8-Pin-6pin-2pin-MalePower-Cable-for-Video/32781960558.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.xQWXdg

It's 8 pin to dual 8 pin cables 18AWG. But according to people in this thread its a bad idea to run a 1080ti with just one of those splitter cables?

I just going to try and see what happends, hopefully it dosen't get to hot.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: KaydenC on June 29, 2017, 07:34:42 AM


The splitter cables are fine and way cheaper than getting more cables from manufacturers. I use them for my 1080ti FE farm. Even when at 120% TDP, they never feel warm.
I'm sourcing several items (risers, mobos, this pcie splitter etc) from factories and selling them in an online shop soon.

I just ordered these cables https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-High-Quality-8-Pin-Male-to-Dual-8-Pin-6pin-2pin-MalePower-Cable-for-Video/32781960558.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.xQWXdg

It's 8 pin to dual 8 pin cables 18AWG. But according to people in this thread its a bad idea to run a 1080ti with just one of those splitter cables?

I just going to try and see what happends, hopefully it dosen't get to hot.

They are totally fine, even an overclocked 1080ti won't heat up the splitter cable, much less an underclocked one. I am using such cables (though not your model) for a few weeks now.


Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: QuintLeo on June 29, 2017, 09:23:12 PM


The splitter cables are fine and way cheaper than getting more cables from manufacturers. I use them for my 1080ti FE farm. Even when at 120% TDP, they never feel warm.
I'm sourcing several items (risers, mobos, this pcie splitter etc) from factories and selling them in an online shop soon.

I just ordered these cables https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-High-Quality-8-Pin-Male-to-Dual-8-Pin-6pin-2pin-MalePower-Cable-for-Video/32781960558.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.xQWXdg

It's 8 pin to dual 8 pin cables 18AWG. But according to people in this thread its a bad idea to run a 1080ti with just one of those splitter cables?

I just going to try and see what happends, hopefully it dosen't get to hot.

They are totally fine, even an overclocked 1080ti won't heat up the splitter cable, much less an underclocked one. I am using such cables (though not your model) for a few weeks now.

 Your splitter cables appear to be at least 16 AWG though.



Title: Re: 8 pin to dual 8 pin (6+2)
Post by: grape_tectonics on June 30, 2017, 03:34:08 AM
It's 8 pin to dual 8 pin cables 18AWG.

Be careful with whatever AWG claimed on aliexpress, I've gotten quite a few 2xmolex->8pin adapters from there that according to the seller are 20AWG but upon measuring myself turned out to be 24AWG.