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Title: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: FFrankie on June 27, 2017, 07:20:15 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: machinek20 on June 27, 2017, 09:56:13 AM
You strategy is almost like martingale, the one that can make you lose is the table limit and your bankroll, you need to prepare a huge bankroll to win and the last one that can make you lost is the game rigged, other than that you will win


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: emberbekas on June 27, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is martingale but instead of doubled your initial bet after a lose, you tripled it. For sure this will work if there is no table limits and you have unlimited bankroll.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Oilacris on June 27, 2017, 10:17:58 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


Just been said above this is just a simple martingale which you do make 3x amount on lose for this time. You would really need to have a big bankroll if you are going to use this kind of method black will eventually come out but i dont really use up this kind of strategy its somehow risky and i dont have much bankroll to putt this kind of betting behavior.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on June 27, 2017, 10:32:14 AM
You can win with that strategy only in offline casinos with tables that has no limits( it doesn't exist anymore). If you apply that to online roulette you need to have an infinite bankroll as everything is stored in the memory of software and it can even make you lose 100 times by giving 100 times red. In real life this has no probability of happening, roll 100 times and 100 times same result. Unfortunately casino owners put limits for this strategy so no one can win now.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: poplolnman on June 27, 2017, 10:46:54 AM
always happened to everyone i guess , whenever you think it would be black but you didn't place the bet the result are black and you supposed to win . but when you guess the wrong color/number and you place bet you lost it. and that time you would feel you have been cheated or something but actually it's not , casino are works like that everytime , make you annoyed and curious.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: jualidbitmixer on June 27, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Well, the table limits is not good for gambler that using martingale strategy. It's really unlucky though, bet black 3 times lose but when you are not bet, the result is black. It's not your day maybe, just go back tomorrow to winning back your loss.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: ralle14 on June 27, 2017, 11:14:22 AM
Well, the table limits is not good for gambler that using martingale strategy. It's really unlucky though, bet black 3 times lose but when you are not bet, the result is black. It's not your day maybe, just go back tomorrow to winning back your loss.
If there are such limits with bet amounts, OP could start with a smaller amount like $1 so he won't be reaching the limit after getting 10 or more consecutive losses.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?
Don't forget about your bankroll too.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: CarlesPuyol on June 27, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
its the best way to lose your money.  Martingale will NEVER work in long term


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Slark on June 27, 2017, 12:22:38 PM
Op, I ma not sure if you think that you have invented this strategy, or think it is some kind of Holy Grail of gambling, but let me assure you - martingale is the bane of gamblers.
This strategy only looks good on paper, people often forgot that every roll/bet is independent, you can have 7 losses in a row, it is not that uncommon.
For martingale to work you either need ultra big bankroll or you need to play with really low stakes. Either way, you could experience a longer losing streak.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: giveen on June 27, 2017, 12:27:14 PM
Seriously you think this is the strategy to win in casinos . As most of the replies stated I'm also going to stick to their point this is a martingle strategy and you would alteast need 2430$ and you can gamble only 6 times so if you are willing to take this risk go ahead. Or try 9 times with bankroll of 2560$ and use strategy of 10$ then 20$ etc.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: harizen on June 27, 2017, 12:42:21 PM
Include me to the one who will say that is a martingale.

Seriously you didn't know how this strategy will lose? Because numbers are unlimited, martingale is unlimited too but your bankroll is not. To cover martingale, you need a large bankroll. When we say large, it really means LARGE because you will do a martingale type of betting.

Roulette have house edges on physical casinos. Play it with no house edges and you will win. The best examples are color game gambling here in our country where you will pick 1 color out of six. Do martingale on one color and then the owner itself will tell you not to joined the game if they noticed you almost depleted their bankroll. :)


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Red-Apple on June 27, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
it will lose not only because it is martingale and bad but only because bets are not connected to each other. the fact that you see 2 or 3 or 50 blacks in a row doesn't guarantee you to see a red in your 3rd, 4th or 51st bet. you may very well see another black again and it actually happens a lot with this strategy.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: eternalgloom on June 27, 2017, 01:58:38 PM
You'd need to have an unlimited bankroll, even with, say, 10k it's still likely that you go bust.
It's not that uncommon to see 8 or 9 turn losing streaks and this method requires even more funds than regular Martingale.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: marlboroza on June 27, 2017, 02:48:23 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is stopping you - bet size: 10$-30$-90$-270$-810$-2430$-7290$-21870$-65610$-196830$-590490$-1,771,470$=2,657,000$
After only 12 reds.

It's stupid to risk millions of dollars to catch 10$ loss.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: flower1024 on June 27, 2017, 02:53:12 PM
Seriously you think this is the strategy to win in casinos . As most of the replies stated I'm also going to stick to their point this is a martingle strategy and you would alteast need 2430$ and you can gamble only 6 times so if you are willing to take this risk go ahead. Or try 9 times with bankroll of 2560$ and use the strategy of 10$ then 20$ etc.
Martingale strategy will not work in long term gambling. Many people tried this method and lost their money I don't know how the site will find out that we are using Martingale method when we use this method once the red number started until we lose everything the red numbers only come. Many people had this experience am I right? So don't waste your money on trying this method.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: bering on June 27, 2017, 03:00:59 PM
the questions is how much money needed to keep betting on black until the black comes out because you need unlimited money to running your strategy and i have to says too eventually you will lost all of your money before the black comes out


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: jtipt on June 27, 2017, 03:24:16 PM
I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?
Ok I'm going to just mention the obvious thing, the only thing stopping you would be the table limits and your bank balance. Ok like many before me said this, the strategy is just a modified martingale nothing else and trust me I have had my fair share with martingale and it never works out, in the long run, all you basically do it risk high amount just to make a little profit(if the losing streak goes high).


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: joebrook on June 27, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
You'd need to have an unlimited bankroll, even with, say, 10k it's still likely that you go bust.
It's not that uncommon to see 8 or 9 turn losing streaks and this method requires even more funds than regular Martingale.
With my type of luck,  I will go about 15 streaks without winning and I don't have that amount of money to play this strategy,  will rather bet it on soccer games.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: lite on June 27, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


I think it'll be true if only you had unlimited/huge bankroll. You never know what next result be, you can win within 4 bets, sometimes it could take you 10+ bets to win.
i'm not sure but i think table limit is around $5k, that means you can make only 6 bets. for a small profit it's not worth the risk.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: piloder on June 27, 2017, 05:05:50 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


Yes it could be table/bet limits those casino have or your bankroll. This is pure martingale and you might actually lost all you have when trying to recover your losses in this way. I have even seen 10 red streaks on roulette before  ;D


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: JL421 on June 27, 2017, 05:17:12 PM
the questions is how much money needed to keep betting on black until the black comes out because you need unlimited money to running your strategy and i have to says too eventually you will lost all of your money before the black comes out
Mostly something like this would happen and i agree with you in order to win you will need lot of money and until one reaches his black or red it will surely be too late it will be better for him to not risk so much money on gambling as I'm sure it is not worth always


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: matchi2011 on June 27, 2017, 06:05:27 PM
Martingale concept. This hasn't been proven to be effective especially in the long run and you would have to have quite a big bankroll to apply this. Usually works for gambling games that has 50/50 win loss chance but can be effective only in short term.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: iv4n on June 27, 2017, 06:18:17 PM
I`m not sure because that was long time ago, year more or less when I played roulette everyday and here is in what I`m not sure was it 23 or 27 loses on red. I remember that I saw 3 or 4 zero`s, so green, and rest was black, more then 0.3 bitcoins lost in that session I started with 0.1 mbtc and every next bet was x2 in the end I didn`t have enough for double bet and I lost because it was zero. And more then once I had over ten misses. I played roulette on betcoin.tm if someone remember that casino, they had really low minimal bet, now in almost all casinos minimal bet on roulette is 1 mBTC, so how many times you can miss:
1 bet: 1 mBTC
2 bet: 2 mBTC
3 bet: 4 mBTC
4 bet: 8 mBTC
5 bet: 16 mBTC
6 bet: 32 mBTC
7 bet: 64 mBTC
8 bet: 128 mBTC
9 bet: 256 mBTC in this moment you lost 511 mBTC and next bet
10 bet: 512 mBTC

Just to get to 10 you need more then 1 bitcoin and to continue you need how much? And be aware some casinos have maximum bet.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Barcode_ on June 27, 2017, 06:45:17 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


There is no strategy that would work 100% all the time, If there is a strategy that could win 100%, all casino would have already shut down their doors. There is two reason why this strategy of yours won't work, firstly you would need a super huge bankroll as I have seen 20 reds in a row before in a real casino, and there is also a table limits for outside bets in roulette, there will be a point which you eventually can't increase your base bet anymore if you lost many rounds in a row.

Secondly would be the house edge in roulette that gives the casino advantage over the players, because there is the Green 0, your winning chance is actually not 50% playing the black and red. The more rounds you play, the higher chance you would stand to lose all of your money to the casino because of the house edge.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: giveen on June 28, 2017, 06:42:11 AM
Seriously you think this is the strategy to win in casinos . As most of the replies stated I'm also going to stick to their point this is a martingle strategy and you would alteast need 2430$ and you can gamble only 6 times so if you are willing to take this risk go ahead. Or try 9 times with bankroll of 2560$ and use the strategy of 10$ then 20$ etc.
Martingale strategy will not work in long term gambling. Many people tried this method and lost their money I don't know how the site will find out that we are using Martingale method when we use this method once the red number started until we lose everything the red numbers only come. Many people had this experience am I right? So don't waste your money on trying this method.
Using this on actual gambling site can be a terror they will quickly change their seeds so that you don't win. It is clearly mentioned in the thread in a casino martingle will surely never work if you try online. In casinos also most of them are fixed but for roulette there is a chance that this martingle may work but as i mentioned we will need a bankroll of atleast 3000$.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: milewilda on June 28, 2017, 07:06:46 AM
Seriously you think this is the strategy to win in casinos . As most of the replies stated I'm also going to stick to their point this is a martingle strategy and you would alteast need 2430$ and you can gamble only 6 times so if you are willing to take this risk go ahead. Or try 9 times with bankroll of 2560$ and use the strategy of 10$ then 20$ etc.
Martingale strategy will not work in long term gambling. Many people tried this method and lost their money I don't know how the site will find out that we are using Martingale method when we use this method once the red number started until we lose everything the red numbers only come. Many people had this experience am I right? So don't waste your money on trying this method.
Using this on actual gambling site can be a terror they will quickly change their seeds so that you don't win. It is clearly mentioned in the thread in a casino martingle will surely never work if you try online. In casinos also most of them are fixed but for roulette there is a chance that this martingle may work but as i mentioned we will need a bankroll of atleast 3000$.
If i gonna decide to use up this kind of strategy i would definitely play up on physical casinos because this method might somehow work if the house isnt rigged but you can definitely detect it when they are cheating on you compared on online casino you wont really know that they are rigged until you lose up all of your money. This strategy would last if you have big bankroll and you do set minimal bets.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: bajing on June 28, 2017, 07:41:25 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


You need huge money to win by doing this way but you right, to choosen do this strategy in roulette games. There are only three possibilities that will come out in the roulette game that is red, black and green but for red and black have an 80% chance out in every games. i never try to do this strategy but just looking into my experience and my opinion maybe you can win your bet less than 10x game round.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: bhadz on June 28, 2017, 07:44:48 AM
its the best way to lose your money.  Martingale will NEVER work in long term

Exactly, I don't rely on this strategy as this is going to triple your losses. And even you will have unlimited bankroll, you will do this cycle again and again. Because even you win, what you will do next? Back at the low amount and will do the same thing? Remember the house always win in this strategy.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: michkima on June 30, 2017, 03:30:34 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



That's basically martin gale! If you don't know yet that strategy will never win in the long run.

It can win but you have to have these assumptions to be true:

1. you have unlimited bankroll
2. There is no table limit

Those two are never present, ever! So basically it loses when you,

1. ran out of bankroll because the bet is so big already
2. you reached the table limits


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Bitcoinsummoner on June 30, 2017, 03:40:30 AM
This method will not work well it can lose you a lot and i think they have bet limit so if reach that limits of bet and its still lose result you can't double it again back instead you lose and start a new martingale again can be result to lose more bets..
This already tested by many gamblers here in me never had a chance to make profit with this method and i think this is a bad strategy even you are betting 1 sat it can be result to lose a lot..
much better to gamble with happiness and think you are just having fun its more chance to win profit than the martingale strategy..


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: LuanX3 on June 30, 2017, 07:04:49 AM
OP just described a martin gale strategy. Though it is not the strict martin gale system where you double your bet every loss, this is still one of those and is a modified version. You can see that these kind of strategy never worked, if it did then no casinos would have stood till now. There is no winning strategy that would win 100% of the time, it could win, but wait for a 20 game losing streak see what I am talking about.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: el kaka22 on June 30, 2017, 07:33:43 AM
OP just described a martin gale strategy. Though it is not the strict martin gale system where you double your bet every loss, this is still one of those and is a modified version. You can see that these kind of strategy never worked, if it did then no casinos would have stood till now. There is no winning strategy that would win 100% of the time, it could win, but wait for a 20 game losing streak see what I am talking about.
Yes there are plenty of modified martingale strategies are available everywhere.
Personally I have tried thousands of them approximately, but never find any differences from my usual dicing results.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Yanisumin on July 01, 2017, 06:31:37 AM
You'd need to have an unlimited bankroll, even with, say, 10k it's still likely that you go bust.
It's not that uncommon to see 8 or 9 turn losing streaks and this method requires even more funds than regular Martingale.
With my type of luck,  I will go about 15 streaks without winning and I don't have that amount of money to play this strategy,  will rather bet it on soccer games.

That's what I'm thinking. Martingale method is good but we must know what game will we apply it. I'm using martingale on 3 dice with 6 colors game. 7 losing streak is actually my limit because 8 to 9 is a huge amount of money. You must have also the skills to analyze and pure luck to win.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: bitcircle on July 01, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
OP just described a martin gale strategy. Though it is not the strict martin gale system where you double your bet every loss, this is still one of those and is a modified version. You can see that these kind of strategy never worked, if it did then no casinos would have stood till now. There is no winning strategy that would win 100% of the time, it could win, but wait for a 20 game losing streak see what I am talking about.
Yes there are plenty of modified martingale strategies are available everywhere.
Personally I have tried thousands of them approximately, but never find any differences from my usual dicing results.

All kind of martingale had same bad result in the result when cross our limit. In the beginning of this journey I also was very curios to win huge amount from gambling and use so many type of trick but always gave all money back after winning good amount.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: MBW_2 on July 01, 2017, 09:53:12 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Martingale strategy will kill your balance sooner or later. Never use this strategy unless you have unlimited bankroll.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: FrueGreads on July 01, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
I'm afraid that is just like martingale or even worst since you are escalating faster, and not just doubling after losses. You will run out of money or hit table limits very fast, so yes, that is not a very good betting strategy.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: tigershark on July 01, 2017, 03:06:08 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Table limits will stop you but also at some point you can't triple your bet anymore because you run out of money. This is similar to martingale strategy where you double your bet after every loss, but you will run out of money at some point. The odds really don't change.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Hydrogen on July 01, 2017, 08:26:51 PM
I don't know if martingale qualifies as a strategy.

I'm no pro gambler but would have to think watching the table and looking for trends in red versus black spins would be a better strategy than ante up on loss or double down on win.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Barbut on July 01, 2017, 08:36:36 PM
I said many times and I will say it again martingale do not work! With bet limit you can't push martingale until the end even if you are a millionaire. How many times you can miss the bet on 33% chances to win is probably 20+, and here on forum there is people that have some amazing stories about their losing strike's.
I like to play progressive but if I gone to deep I'm stopping and changing the game, I don't have huge bankroll and martingale in most cases leads to 0 balance.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: vh on July 01, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the odds of flipping a coin 1 million times and getting 20 heads in a row at least once, is about 38%.

Think about how many times that roulette table has spun since the casino opened (at least a few dozen million times) and how many time 20 back-to-back black has occurred.

Probably never, nor does past results matter, yet it could just happen to be as soon as you apply this strategy.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: mrcash02 on July 01, 2017, 11:52:03 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Table limites and your bankroll limit that I'm sure it's not infinity. It's a risky Martingale system, x3 on losses. You never know if the next bet will give you the profit to start again, it's like the online gambling, the house always have some advantage and in this case besides the table limits they have one green house, the zero, their house edge.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: MinerHQ on July 02, 2017, 12:58:38 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



Table limites and your bankroll limit that I'm sure it's not infinity. It's a risky Martingale system, x3 on losses. You never know if the next bet will give you the profit to start again, it's like the online gambling, the house always have some advantage and in this case besides the table limits they have one green house, the zero, their house edge.

Yes, that is correct. If winning is so simple than by now, we should have seen many millionaires from gambling and most of the gambling houses under loss or closing the site. But we see many losses in gambling that means all these methods will never work in the longer run. Even with a huge bankroll, people tend to make a mistake of going with bigger bets then lose all the bankrolls. Always gamble only for fun and not earn money from it.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: moooonu on July 02, 2017, 05:01:10 AM
what you are referring is called martingale(modified) in terms of dice gambling site. As per my experience in dice site it is the worst strategy to use as you win a little and you loose a lot with this strategy.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Mike Mayor on July 02, 2017, 11:32:13 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is stopping you - bet size: 10$-30$-90$-270$-810$-2430$-7290$-21870$-65610$-196830$-590490$-1,771,470$=2,657,000$
After only 12 reds.

It's stupid to risk millions of dollars to catch 10$ loss.

It's not ten dollars. The more he loses the more he will win in the next roll. Buy you right 12 reds and it's all over. Doesn't seem like a good idea. Once you hit tabke limit you screwed. You can make profit because you will hit black eventually but you will never double what you began with


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Pettuh4 on July 03, 2017, 01:44:59 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is stopping you - bet size: 10$-30$-90$-270$-810$-2430$-7290$-21870$-65610$-196830$-590490$-1,771,470$=2,657,000$
After only 12 reds.

It's stupid to risk millions of dollars to catch 10$ loss.

It's not ten dollars. The more he loses the more he will win in the next roll. Buy you right 12 reds and it's all over. Doesn't seem like a good idea. Once you hit tabke limit you screwed. You can make profit because you will hit black eventually but you will never double what you began with

Well I guess you must have an infinite amount of money in order to feel safe applying this strategy because you could crash anywhere if you're out of money and where is this 38% statistics coming from? Does it have any credible basis?


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: HEWRA on July 03, 2017, 02:08:33 AM
You should always remember that there is no strategy which will guarantee you to win, all is about the odds and the balance that you can afford on one gambling session. If it is not high enough, then you will always loose, even with great "technique".


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Oilacris on July 03, 2017, 03:52:22 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is stopping you - bet size: 10$-30$-90$-270$-810$-2430$-7290$-21870$-65610$-196830$-590490$-1,771,470$=2,657,000$
After only 12 reds.

It's stupid to risk millions of dollars to catch 10$ loss.

It's not ten dollars. The more he loses the more he will win in the next roll. Buy you right 12 reds and it's all over. Doesn't seem like a good idea. Once you hit tabke limit you screwed. You can make profit because you will hit black eventually but you will never double what you began with

Well I guess you must have an infinite amount of money in order to feel safe applying this strategy because you could crash anywhere if you're out of money and where is this 38% statistics coming from? Does it have any credible basis?
The idea here that why would triple bet if you lost the first $10 bet? No one would really risk up millions on this one and 12 streaks in a row is possible on casino thats why its not good to make use of this strategy no matter how rich or big your balance is, you will surely be wrecked up if you did let your greediness control you. Risk on the amount that you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: momagic on July 03, 2017, 04:03:20 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


Almost actually, No one can predict how much will  the strake will be so that you can earn as long as you are not greedy or you know when to stop. If you keep playing, of course you will lose.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: digaran on July 03, 2017, 05:01:25 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


In theory and on paper and in reality where the system is truly producing random outcomes every single time this can be the ace strategy to win.
But when you enter a casino, the cheating will start, you're not a mathematician to figure out the lengthy process behind the provably fair system so fooling you is the easiest thing in the world.
Now you should try this instead:

You bet $1 win or lose you again bet $2 win or lose you again bet $4 win or lose you again bet $8 win/lose bet $16 win/lose bet $35 win/lose bet $80 win/lose bet $170 win/lose bet $350 win/lose bet $740 and you could continue until reaching the table limit or you could try it on dice but if every single time you lose then you should realize that they're cheating. lol


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: megynacuna on July 03, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?


In theory and on paper and in reality where the system is truly producing random outcomes every single time this can be the ace strategy to win.
But when you enter a casino, the cheating will start, you're not a mathematician to figure out the lengthy process behind the provably fair system so fooling you is the easiest thing in the world.
Now you should try this instead:

You bet $1 win or lose you again bet $2 win or lose you again bet $4 win or lose you again bet $8 win/lose bet $16 win/lose bet $35 win/lose bet $80 win/lose bet $170 win/lose bet $350 win/lose bet $740 and you could continue until reaching the table limit or you could try it on dice but if every single time you lose then you should realize that they're cheating. lol

But who will have that much money to risk like that, I think this formular looks like the martingale and with that kind of strategy you need an unending bankroll which will be difficult to come by.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: michaelch on July 08, 2017, 12:29:52 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is the martingale strategy. You'll eventually lose. The bankroll you'll need to keep this going is extremely large.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Kimi80 on July 13, 2017, 11:36:36 PM
I've tried this once with electronic roulette but I doubled every next bet. I bet on red and got me 8 blacks. I didn't have more money to continue. It was so fast and sadly funny. I did smile instantly. Never tried it again.
A zero can make a small problem in there too.
People who bet on soccer games use that progressive strategy placing bets on draw. Odds are always over 2.5-2.7 and eventually and mathematically you should win but string could be very very long. And off course table limits can make you a problem too if you start with big amount.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: freebutcaged on July 14, 2017, 12:23:55 AM
In theory and on paper and in reality where the system is truly producing random outcomes every single time this can be the ace strategy to win.
But when you enter a casino, the cheating will start, you're not a mathematician to figure out the lengthy process behind the provably fair system so fooling you is the easiest thing in the world.
Now you should try this instead:

You bet $1 win or lose you again bet $2 win or lose you again bet $4 win or lose you again bet $8 win/lose bet $16 win/lose bet $35 win/lose bet $80 win/lose bet $170 win/lose bet $350 win/lose bet $740 and you could continue until reaching the table limit or you could try it on dice but if every single time you lose then you should realize that they're cheating. lol
Don't act like a newbie idiot bro, why would you keep betting double when you actually win once? with that strategy once you win it's like

You have hit your goal, then you should reset and start from $1 however if you are not lucky then it's not about them cheating your just

Unlucky as fuck, if all the casinos were cheating no one would've played there by now, how about you trying a real casino and betting on red

Or black only with that method to see who's cheating? people here are poor as fuck, they can't afford to gamble with more than $10.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Caladonian on July 14, 2017, 01:08:42 AM
I've tried this once with electronic roulette but I doubled every next bet. I bet on red and got me 8 blacks. I didn't have more money to continue. It was so fast and sadly funny. I did smile instantly. Never tried it again.
A zero can make a small problem in there too.
People who bet on soccer games use that progressive strategy placing bets on draw. Odds are always over 2.5-2.7 and eventually and mathematically you should win but string could be very very long. And off course table limits can make you a problem too if you start with big amount.
martin fails always have a big role with betting inside a luck base game and i think most of us loses eventually since the system already knew what we are doing and they upgrade continuously to avoid loses from the gamblers so i think never to rely from this strategy. go with your instinct and quit whenever you got some wins.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: chris200x9 on July 14, 2017, 01:44:39 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is the martingale strategy. You'll eventually lose. The bankroll you'll need to keep this going is extremely large.

I don't think even with very high bankroll also you can't make sure that you will win money from this dice strategy. If you that possible then by now gambling sites should have been closed. But it is not happening means this method or any other methods will never work in the longer term in gambling so don't waste your money in gambling instead invest in some other investments to grow your money.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: michkima on July 14, 2017, 06:58:48 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is the martingale strategy. You'll eventually lose. The bankroll you'll need to keep this going is extremely large.

I don't think even with very high bankroll also you can't make sure that you will win money from this dice strategy. If you that possible then by now gambling sites should have been closed. But it is not happening means this method or any other methods will never work in the longer term in gambling so don't waste your money in gambling instead invest in some other investments to grow your money.

Because in martin gale you assume that you have unlimited bankroll and that the casino does not have limits to your bets. If those two are not present then that would mean martin gale will fail all the time. The problem is that both those factors are never present in any gambling game.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: paul00 on July 14, 2017, 07:44:52 AM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is the martingale strategy. You'll eventually lose. The bankroll you'll need to keep this going is extremely large.

I don't think even with very high bankroll also you can't make sure that you will win money from this dice strategy. If you that possible then by now gambling sites should have been closed. But it is not happening means this method or any other methods will never work in the longer term in gambling so don't waste your money in gambling instead invest in some other investments to grow your money.

Because in martin gale you assume that you have unlimited bankroll and that the casino does not have limits to your bets. If those two are not present then that would mean martin gale will fail all the time. The problem is that both those factors are never present in any gambling game.
Martingale strategy will be effective as they said if you have an unlimited money on the bank but I assure you that It is impossible to win easy in a casino base but if you are lucky well then you got it.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Shinpako09 on July 14, 2017, 07:52:28 AM
It is because of the limited balance and the long streak of loss. If you had a bad streak your balance can't cover it until all of your funds/depo will disappear. It is sure the most popular strat that exist but also the worst and only few have been using it.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Fulmand on July 14, 2017, 08:18:32 AM
It is because of the limited balance and the long streak of loss. If you had a bad streak your balance can't cover it until all of your funds/depo will disappear. It is sure the most popular strat that exist but also the worst and only few have been using it.
Don't say into final conclusions yet, because even if few were using it; the price is still higher with it's value. That bad streak will not work eversince,  due to low profit gains and funds is really losing in the long run. Even the best strategy you could and you have no proper gaming skills and patience  of the game; you really lose it.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: pinky on July 14, 2017, 09:13:54 AM
Try this strategy on real casinos and you will get kicked out of casino :) Never gamble with martingale or any double strategy unless you have unlimited bankroll without table limit.Also dont forget to read about  "Gambler's fallacy" ;)


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: DrGuns4Hands on July 14, 2017, 11:35:02 AM
I'm not that kind that stay on one color till i win. i prefer changing color as my first time experience last october i bet with a high amount and hit a huge prize in just one snap. but on my second play i always lose because in that gambling you always meant to lose the only one who can let you win in that game is only luck.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Kevin77 on July 14, 2017, 02:21:25 PM
Try this strategy on real casinos and you will get kicked out of casino :) Never gamble with martingale or any double strategy unless you have unlimited bankroll without table limit.Also dont forget to read about  "Gambler's fallacy" ;)
Compared to online casino, the chances to crack profits must be greater in real casino. Martingale strategy had worked for me many times in real life gambling but I never got chances to make profits with online gambling. But in both the cases you must have big bankroll obviously.

I'm not that kind that stay on one color till i win. i prefer changing color as my first time experience last october i bet with a high amount and hit a huge prize in just one snap. but on my second play i always lose because in that gambling you always meant to lose the only one who can let you win in that game is only luck.
Changing color must be insignificant here as per what I did experiences with different games. You cannot blame anything here except your luck factor. 


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: iram1011 on July 14, 2017, 03:48:41 PM
Martingale works best in the short term. The longer you play, the more likely you are to lose, because the longer you play, the more likely you are to lose several bets in a row and then run out of money or run up against the table limit.

Many new gamblers make a mistake of thinking Martingale will make you a guaranteed winner. But the truth is even with a huge $100k bankroll, you can't use the Martingale very long without a significant risk of tapping out completely. In gambling, You must be willing to accept the risk of losing your whole bankroll as no strategy is a sure shot to profit.



Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: CORNEL on July 14, 2017, 04:14:24 PM
Martingale works best in the short term. The longer you play, the more likely you are to lose, because the longer you play, the more likely you are to lose several bets in a row and then run out of money or run up against the table limit.

Many new gamblers make a mistake of thinking Martingale will make you a guaranteed winner. But the truth is even with a huge $100k bankroll, you can't use the Martingale very long without a significant risk of tapping out completely. In gambling, You must be willing to accept the risk of losing your whole bankroll as no strategy is a sure shot to profit.



Martingale is one of worse strategy ever in gambling that is true nobody can deny these fact it always ended up to get busted. Most of the people start using without knowing the maximum bet amount limit after this no way to get recover and survive against the house that is why I am also agreed with you.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Bezobraznike on July 14, 2017, 05:26:38 PM
Martingale works best in the short term. The longer you play, the more likely you are to lose, because the longer you play, the more likely you are to lose several bets in a row and then run out of money or run up against the table limit.

Many new gamblers make a mistake of thinking Martingale will make you a guaranteed winner. But the truth is even with a huge $100k bankroll, you can't use the Martingale very long without a significant risk of tapping out completely. In gambling, You must be willing to accept the risk of losing your whole bankroll as no strategy is a sure shot to profit.



Martingale is one of worse strategy ever in gambling that is true nobody can deny these fact it always ended up to get busted. Most of the people start using without knowing the maximum bet amount limit after this no way to get recover and survive against the house that is why I am also agreed with you.

   Iram1011 is right that this strategy can work only for a short time of period, and that is same like for all other win-in-gambling strategies. Even
with huge bankroll what can you do if bets are limited? Nothing, casino is stopping gamblers to go until the end, and that is nice pointed from
CORNEL in his post. Indeed that makes martingale the worst possible strategy, you are doom to fail in the start of the play.
   All strategies lose in long run, its easy for everyone to conclude that mixing your styles of playing is the best strategy.
   


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Mike Mayor on July 18, 2017, 06:02:27 PM
You walk into a casino, and you play roulette.

You bet
$10 on black,
lose
$30 on black
lose
$90 on black
lose
eventually
black comes out and you win.

I think the only thing stopping you would be the table limits?



This is stopping you - bet size: 10$-30$-90$-270$-810$-2430$-7290$-21870$-65610$-196830$-590490$-1,771,470$=2,657,000$
After only 12 reds.

It's stupid to risk millions of dollars to catch 10$ loss.

But far this is the best answer and why I quote it. Sweet simple and truthful. This is exactly the reason none biased right in your face. 12 losses is not that uncommon I mean it happens. I would risk all that. Unless you willing to have lost what you began with I wouldn't go near such a strategy. Of course I say this now not knowing the outcome. Had I won my mind would change xP


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: coolcoinz on July 18, 2017, 06:30:05 PM
I don't believe people are still asking about Martingale. There are literally thousands of explanations on this forum alone talking about why this strategy doesn't work. The best answer I've read is that it seems to work at first and it keeps working, until it doesn't and you lose everything, because with Martingale if you lose, you lose big.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: rickadone on July 18, 2017, 06:52:34 PM
I don't believe people are still asking about Martingale. There are literally thousands of explanations on this forum alone talking about why this strategy doesn't work. The best answer I've read is that it seems to work at first and it keeps working, until it doesn't and you lose everything, because with Martingale if you lose, you lose big.
Like many people here, I am also wondering why Martingale fails with online gambling and works perfect if you use it in your real life.

Moreover people here are gambling for entertainment and they find entertainments even with discovering an effective strategy set up. I know few gamblers they are spending more time on different strategy set up with their dice gambling rather than just watching their profits dancing ups and downs.

I mean there will be no wonder on people are looking for some modified version of Martingale. This is how they gamble as this is how they enjoy their life.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: coolcoinz on July 22, 2017, 06:49:20 PM
I don't believe people are still asking about Martingale. There are literally thousands of explanations on this forum alone talking about why this strategy doesn't work. The best answer I've read is that it seems to work at first and it keeps working, until it doesn't and you lose everything, because with Martingale if you lose, you lose big.
Like many people here, I am also wondering why Martingale fails with online gambling and works perfect if you use it in your real life.

Moreover people here are gambling for entertainment and they find entertainments even with discovering an effective strategy set up. I know few gamblers they are spending more time on different strategy set up with their dice gambling rather than just watching their profits dancing ups and downs.

I mean there will be no wonder on people are looking for some modified version of Martingale. This is how they gamble as this is how they enjoy their life.
It's quite simple really. I used to wonder why it is years ago when I first started playing online dice.
You see, when you play normal dice you have a single roll with double dice, and your probability is taken from this single roll. When you play online dice, there's a number of throws happening at the same time. It may be 10, but it may be 20, made by different players, sometimes with autoroll function. When the system does the math, it generates seeds randomly and distributes between the players, so it's possible that one of the players gets 10 wins in a row, (with 50% chance) and another one 10 losses, which in a real life casino is very improbable.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Noctis Connor on July 22, 2017, 10:58:16 PM
maybe you're just unlucky after you lose black comes out and other will win sometimes those player who had small money always had the chance to win in to the game with 10-20% only however if your lucky enough to win every time you bet maybe try to withdraw and stop playing because gambling are for those people who can afford to lose big if you play big then you always had a backup money to chase your first losses.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: tsaroz on July 23, 2017, 12:05:09 AM
Hypothetically martingale will never lose but for it, your budget should be infinite. Though the bets in black/red is ~50% still there is no fixed chances of getting black for any numbers of rolls. Like you can spin it for billions of times and there is a chance of getting all of them red.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: MinerHQ on July 23, 2017, 12:06:54 AM
I don't believe people are still asking about Martingale. There are literally thousands of explanations on this forum alone talking about why this strategy doesn't work. The best answer I've read is that it seems to work at first and it keeps working, until it doesn't and you lose everything, because with Martingale if you lose, you lose big.

Most people will never believe other people suggestions until they personally realise it. Just imagine any of these strategies works we shouldn't have seen so many online casinos and people should realise this fact. These games are designed to give us entertainment and not an easy money. Gamblers should realise this fact and spend a small amount on these games and if they are lucky then they will earn some money or just a fun.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Oilacris on July 23, 2017, 11:08:23 AM
I don't believe people are still asking about Martingale. There are literally thousands of explanations on this forum alone talking about why this strategy doesn't work. The best answer I've read is that it seems to work at first and it keeps working, until it doesn't and you lose everything, because with Martingale if you lose, you lose big.

Most people will never believe other people suggestions until they personally realise it. Just imagine any of these strategies works we shouldn't have seen so many online casinos and people should realise this fact. These games are designed to give us entertainment and not an easy money. Gamblers should realise this fact and spend a small amount on these games and if they are lucky then they will earn some money or just a fun.
If a person would create a new method that generates huge income/profit for them then they would not really plan to share it on public and would spoil it for the rest of their lives and as you said there were no casino sites if some gamblers could able to milk them for a long periods of time and we know these sites are really just designed for entertainment purposes not for money making.


Title: Re: Tell me how this strategy losses?
Post by: Mike Mayor on July 23, 2017, 10:28:57 PM
There really is no strategy it doesn't matter how you roll or how you split it up you can roll once or 10000x it doesn't change the chances in the slightest bit and remains the same. If you want to have fun make many rolls if you want to be quick.

Just tricking yourself. I say stop thinking and just roll !!
The best chances to win can be found at yolodice. Very few dice casino have as low houseedge as they do.