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Title: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Alik Bahshi on June 27, 2017, 10:57:17 PM
As I said, Russia will be lose the Mundial 2018. FIFA published the full text of the report on the investigation of the competitions, which resulted in Russia and Qatar being chosen as hosts of the 2018 and 2022 World Cup. The report contains information on the corruption of former FIFA leaders.
Http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-40421406

Russia can lose the Mundial 2018

    It seems that the World Cup, which is to be held in 2018 in Russia, will be covered with a copper basin. Switzerland opened a criminal case against FIFA President Sepp Blatter. (Http://news.bigmir.net/world/937293-Shveicariya-otkrila-ygolovnoe-delo-protiv-Blattera-gaGordon). Shortly thereafter, a new wave of arrests of senior officials in the leadership of football took place in Switzerland, including two presidents of football federations. Http://www.rbc.ru/society/03/12/2015...79473e5ea2da40
If FIFA is, thanks to its president, entirely out of corrupt officials, then the likelihood that Putin bribed Blatter is beyond doubt. Almost the entire top management of FIFA's management is under investigation today on suspicion of various kinds of financial fraud. It may be that the esteemed Zapp sold Putin the right to host the 2018 championship, that is, the draw that Russia won was not clean.
  Moreover, Russia's financial situation today is catastrophic, which may affect the readiness of sports facilities on schedule. And judging by the way Russian football fans demonstrate their beast essence at the European Championships, it even went to the murder, I think there are all chances that the 2018 Mundial will not take place in Russia. It is unlikely that FIFA will risk a championship in the country of drunken savages.
   The reaction of Russian mass media to the outrage of Russian fans on the streets of French cities is interesting: no condemnation of the manifested vandalism. Yes, and what kind of condemnation can follow if President Putin himself admired the hooliganism, enthusiastically observing how "200 Russian fans saw off several thousand Englishmen."

25.09.15.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: leopardpointy on June 28, 2017, 12:19:30 AM
Hmm i don't know, soccer and Blatter have always been corrupt, so what? I think it's kinda late to change the place for the next worldcup.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on June 28, 2017, 01:00:54 AM
The Americans and the Brits are upset because they lost the hosting rights to Russia and Qatar. The bidding for World Cup hosting was always a corrupt process, and it makes no sense to conduct the football world cup in the United States, where not too many people watch the sport.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Alik Bahshi on June 28, 2017, 04:19:14 AM
Hmm i don't know, soccer and Blatter have always been corrupt, so what? I think it's kinda late to change the place for the next worldcup.

 The United Kingdom, even tomorrow, can host the World Cup.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Lieldoryn on July 02, 2017, 02:54:50 PM
The Americans and the Brits are upset because they lost the hosting rights to Russia and Qatar. The bidding for World Cup hosting was always a corrupt process, and it makes no sense to conduct the football world cup in the United States, where not too many people watch the sport.
Now probably again from Russia and Qatar will host the world Cup 2018. Blockade of Qatar and the corruption scandal could trigger the transfer of competitions in a more dignified country. I hope that it will.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: hugobord on July 02, 2017, 09:39:26 PM
The time limit will soon be oozed
He will not let this happen.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on July 03, 2017, 01:54:41 AM
The Americans and the Brits are upset because they lost the hosting rights to Russia and Qatar. The bidding for World Cup hosting was always a corrupt process, and it makes no sense to conduct the football world cup in the United States, where not too many people watch the sport.
Now probably again from Russia and Qatar will host the world Cup 2018. Blockade of Qatar and the corruption scandal could trigger the transfer of competitions in a more dignified country. I hope that it will.

Yeah.. keep dreaming. The United Kingdom lost the hosting vote to Russia for the 2018 world cup, and the United States lost the bidding to Qatar for the 2022 world cup. Now these two sore losers are teaming up to overturn the voting results.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: BitcoinSupremo on July 03, 2017, 06:23:31 AM
The Americans and the Brits are upset because they lost the hosting rights to Russia and Qatar. The bidding for World Cup hosting was always a corrupt process, and it makes no sense to conduct the football world cup in the United States, where not too many people watch the sport.
Now probably again from Russia and Qatar will host the world Cup 2018. Blockade of Qatar and the corruption scandal could trigger the transfer of competitions in a more dignified country. I hope that it will.

I don't like that much Russia a communist country and I have said it openly but in this case they have won the bid legally so there is no possibility that someone can take it away from them. The World Cup 2018 will be hosted there like it or not, America and the UK cannot really do anything about it. They have to accept it. Russia and Qatar both are dignified countries so no, no other country will take these World Cup organizations from them. It will proceed as normal, I repeat they won their bids through legit terms. I didn't see any corruption in the process of bidding from these countries.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: mariahh on July 03, 2017, 02:18:22 PM
Mundial is an anti-racist contest which promotes noble competition.In fact things are not always like that.In the past similar events have been focus of violate behaviors and terrorist atacks.Moreover in 2014 when Mundial took place in Brazi there was a lot of criminality.Politics and religions shoudn't be compared and mixed with the football.All the people have the right to watch such a kind of event.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 03, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
I don't think that Russia is a safe place to host the world cup. There is widespread racism and xenophobia in that country. Russia is not safe for Africans, Asians and people of mixed descent. Also, the football hooligans are a big problem in Russia.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: danfos88 on July 03, 2017, 03:47:39 PM
"If there is evidence that the votes were bought, then the results of the voting can be declared invalid," the official said.
"However, there is no such evidence," he added.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Wayan_Pedjeng on July 03, 2017, 04:03:10 PM
"If there is evidence that the votes were bought, then the results of the voting can be declared invalid," the official said.
"However, there is no such evidence," he added.

The evidence will come up only if a proper investigation is launched in to this. Without any investigation, how can they say that there is no evidence for bribing? I don't know about Russia. But Qatar is a very small nation, and it is surprising that they won the hosting rights.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: joebrook on July 03, 2017, 04:57:33 PM
As long as gift giving is allowed when it comes bidding for the FIFA World Cup hosting,  people will always bribe the committee that decides on this thing, Some will view cash as a gift , others will see diamonds as a gift. I think in the concept of giving gifts, it should be abolished entirely.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Prem.Soorajpaul on July 03, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
The preparations are almost complete. They must be allowed to host the tournament. What was FIFA doing until now? Sleeping?


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: PaperBrikzz on July 04, 2017, 12:37:44 AM
After this tournamet i can clearly see they won't have problems, FIFA should be worried about their work, not Russia.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: soccerisbig78 on July 04, 2017, 01:32:36 AM
Maybe few months ago, but now it's impossible they can lose them. Even if FIFA is under invetigation, believe me.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on July 04, 2017, 04:58:03 AM
After this tournamet i can clearly see they won't have problems, FIFA should be worried about their work, not Russia.

Just a few days back, Russia successfully hosted the FIFA Confederations Cup. There was not a single untoward incident, of any magnitude and there was no complaints from anyone. Therefore I believe that Russia will host the 2018 world cup and it will be a great success.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: mvidetto on August 17, 2017, 01:10:16 PM
After this tournamet i can clearly see they won't have problems, FIFA should be worried about their work, not Russia.

Just a few days back, Russia successfully hosted the FIFA Confederations Cup. There was not a single untoward incident, of any magnitude and there was no complaints from anyone. Therefore I believe that Russia will host the 2018 world cup and it will be a great success.

True story man. I have some friends who visited Confederations Cup in Russia in order to support Chile, finally they came back very satisfied with FIFA organization despite the fact Chile lose the game. Anyways they are definitely planning to visit World Cup in Russia. No way to loose the event.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: SilArt on August 18, 2017, 12:34:24 AM
After this tournamet i can clearly see they won't have problems, FIFA should be worried about their work, not Russia.

Just a few days back, Russia successfully hosted the FIFA Confederations Cup. There was not a single untoward incident, of any magnitude and there was no complaints from anyone. Therefore I believe that Russia will host the 2018 world cup and it will be a great success.

True story man. I have some friends who visited Confederations Cup in Russia in order to support Chile, finally they came back very satisfied with FIFA organization despite the fact Chile lose the game. Anyways they are definitely planning to visit World Cup in Russia. No way to loose the event.

Yes, that's true. Lots of big infrastructure is ready for mundial. There's 0 chances Russia will lose it.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on August 18, 2017, 09:01:07 AM
Most World Cups were awarded to those who gave most money to Blatter and his comrades. Russia and Qatar are no exceptions. They deserve to lose it.

Oh really? Then what about the 1994 Word Cup, which was conducted in the United States? Please note that football is not a popular sport in the United States, unlike the case with both Russia and Qatar.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Aladdin-Sane-83 on August 18, 2017, 09:21:35 AM
The worldcup next year will be in Russia, there is no doubt about that. I even think the WC in 2022 will be held in Qatar, even it is the most stupid idea ever. I have no problem with Russia hosting the worldcup, I am looking forward to the tournament.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: matuson on August 18, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
I doubt that Russian will take away the right to host the world Cup 2018. Probably too late, but to boycott it can many countries. This blow to the image of Russia might be even worse than the deprivation of the right to vote.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: xrates on August 18, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Highly unlikely. If this was true there would be a lot of noise about this in the news.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: smurfik32 on August 19, 2017, 04:47:05 AM
Hmm i don't know, soccer and Blatter have always been corrupt, so what? I think it's kinda late to change the place for the next worldcup.
Nobody will carry World Cup 2018 from Russia. And зaчeм7 Stadiums are built, an infrastructure is prepared. Think, that changing nothing is not needed, all will pass at high level.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on August 19, 2017, 08:41:54 AM
I doubt that Russian will take away the right to host the world Cup 2018. Probably too late, but to boycott it can many countries. This blow to the image of Russia might be even worse than the deprivation of the right to vote.

Nothing is going to happen if England and the United States boycott the world cup (I don't even think that these nations will manage to qualify for the main event). None of the major football powers will think about a boycott.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: LTU_btc on August 19, 2017, 11:38:00 PM
Most World Cups were awarded to those who gave most money to Blatter and his comrades. Russia and Qatar are no exceptions. They deserve to lose it.

Oh really? Then what about the 1994 Word Cup, which was conducted in the United States? Please note that football is not a popular sport in the United States, unlike the case with both Russia and Qatar.
We all know that FIFA is corrupted organisation. And now it's clear that previous tournaments in Germany and South Africa was awarded when these countries paid lot of money to Blatter. I'm sure that same situation with Russia and Qatar.
And you aren't right that football is not popular in USA, it's among top 4 most popular team sports.

I doubt that Russian will take away the right to host the world Cup 2018. Probably too late, but to boycott it can many countries. This blow to the image of Russia might be even worse than the deprivation of the right to vote.

Nothing is going to happen if England and the United States boycott the world cup (I don't even think that these nations will manage to qualify for the main event). None of the major football powers will think about a boycott.
Well, England already have almost guaranteed theirr place in world cup, USA is also in good positions. But you are right that nobody will boycott world cup


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on August 20, 2017, 04:52:19 AM
We all know that FIFA is corrupted organisation. And now it's clear that previous tournaments in Germany and South Africa was awarded when these countries paid lot of money to Blatter. I'm sure that same situation with Russia and Qatar.
And you aren't right that football is not popular in USA, it's among top 4 most popular team sports.

May be that was the case with the other nations, but the hosting of the world cup in South Africa was a part of FIFA's (and Blatter's) dream to popularize the sport in the continent of Africa. I don't think that money was involved in that decision.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: LTU_btc on August 20, 2017, 10:09:53 AM
We all know that FIFA is corrupted organisation. And now it's clear that previous tournaments in Germany and South Africa was awarded when these countries paid lot of money to Blatter. I'm sure that same situation with Russia and Qatar.
And you aren't right that football is not popular in USA, it's among top 4 most popular team sports.

May be that was the case with the other nations, but the hosting of the world cup in South Africa was a part of FIFA's (and Blatter's) dream to popularize the sport in the continent of Africa. I don't think that money was involved in that decision.
According to reports, South Africa paid $10 million bribe to become host of World Cup 2010. And they offered more money than another African country Morocco.
https://independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fifa-corruption-scandal-live-sepp-blatter-jack-warner-10302881.html%3famp?espv=1
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33041776


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: bryant.coleman on August 20, 2017, 12:11:01 PM
According to reports, South Africa paid $10 million bribe to become host of World Cup 2010. And they offered more money than another African country Morocco.
https://independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fifa-corruption-scandal-live-sepp-blatter-jack-warner-10302881.html%3famp?espv=1
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33041776

Nothing of a surprise there. All the major sports events are purchased by the nations which can afford to spend good amounts of money to bribe the voters. This is true with the football world cup, and even the Olympics. That said, the hosting of the world cup in South Africa was widely considered as a success for the FIFA. It gave football major inroads in to the African continent.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: SearchingforS on August 21, 2017, 10:56:27 PM
I think that Confederations Cup showed that situation is OK, didn't it?
That's not going to happen, really, no one will win from that scenario ???


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Sithara007 on August 22, 2017, 04:53:48 AM
I think that Confederations Cup showed that situation is OK, didn't it?
That's not going to happen, really, no one will win from that scenario ???

All this talk about shifting the venue is pure nonsense. It is too late for any of that. At the most, a few of the nations will boycott the event, and these nations will later face fines and bans from the FIFA.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: sukiho on August 22, 2017, 01:44:26 PM
There is no chance Russia will lose the world cup, too much has been invested for this  event, if fifa decided to withdrawn Russia from host it will caused economy shake down for Russia. Russia is not a small player in this world, in my opinions they will do all the things necessary to make sure the mundial will still be happening this 2018.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: MostHigh on August 22, 2017, 02:34:05 PM
The bidding process have faced corruption charges from the inception of the games and that will never prevent Russia from hosting the next footy world cup. They have held the confederation cup already and the only hind side for me was attendance because am pretty sure the Numbers we saw in South Africa and Brazil will not troop to Russia because of numerous reasons but all the same the tournament will go on as planned.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Jackeexx on August 22, 2017, 03:07:34 PM
 To add to the World Cup, the russian team has time still. There are few chances, but now we have august 2017. Nobody knows who will play in a year, who will be traumatized, against whom to play. We do not know anything, except for one thing: the russian team needs strength in order to count on at least some results.


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: Alik Bahshi on March 07, 2018, 06:27:40 AM
Putin is unchanged in his vindictiveness; ex-colonel GRU Skripal residing in the UK, went to the hospital with his daughter. Doctors believe that this is the result of poisoning. The case of poisoning and its motives are very reminiscent of Putin's reprisal against Litvinenko.

Britain will respond decisively if it turns out that Russia is involved in the poisoning in Salisbury of the former GRU officer Sergei Skripal, British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson said.
He called the Kremlin "a malicious and destabilizing force," allowed stricter sanctions against Russia and even a refusal of British representation in the World Cup, which starts in Russia in three months. http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-43305035


Title: Re: Russia can lose the Mundial 2018
Post by: September11Myth on March 16, 2018, 10:38:48 PM
Putin is unchanged in his vindictiveness; ex-colonel GRU Skripal residing in the UK, went to the hospital with his daughter. Doctors believe that this is the result of poisoning. The case of poisoning and its motives are very reminiscent of Putin's reprisal against Litvinenko.

Britain will respond decisively if it turns out that Russia is involved in the poisoning in Salisbury of the former GRU officer Sergei Skripal, British Foreign Minister Boris Johnson said.
He called the Kremlin "a malicious and destabilizing force," allowed stricter sanctions against Russia and even a refusal of British representation in the World Cup, which starts in Russia in three months. http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-43305035


There is only a few minor problems in this story: the now allegedly poisoned spy was already in Russian prisons and had then been pardoned and released by Putin, so it is not clear at all why he would years later want to kill him. Even less clear why he would want to do it in a way which would carry his signature, so that the world can blame him. One must be very dumb to believe something like that.
The fact is that this is just a setup which will be used to boycott the Russian Football championship.